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If Mayo comes back...

Started by tower912, November 30, 2012, 08:22:28 AM

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tower912

When he is ready, start him and Blue and bring Lockett off of the bench.   Trent and Jake can be the glue guys off of the bench when Mayo and Blue need a rest or get in foul trouble.    Trent is just not quick. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

hairy worthen

I agree, but I am not convinced Mayo will be back.

I have not been impressed with Lockett at all. He seems to pass up easy passes and shots to force an ill advised drive to the basket. I really hope he improves. Maybe he just needs to feel more comfortable with the team around him. Right now he is a liability, at least as far as his play on the court.

nyg

Or start Lockett, then pull him for Mayo after some time.  Mayo played pretty good coming off the bench.

He had a long stretch of games where he couldn't hit a shot, but turned it around at the end of the season.

But agree with premise, Lockett has not shown much yet this season.

Canned Goods n Ammo

I hope Mayo is as good as you guys think.

I'm not so sure. Better than Lockett? I dunno.

With this said, Todd would be a nice piece to add, and certainly could fill a role on offense.


4everwarriors

What has anyone seen for Mayo that suggests he's goin' to provide whatever this team is missing?
Seriously, Buzz needs to recruit better players at all 5 positions. That'll be harder to do when the conference takes a powder.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 30, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
What has anyone seen for Mayo that suggests he's goin' to provide whatever this team is missing?
Seriously, Buzz needs to recruit better players at all 5 positions. That'll be harder to do when the conference takes a powder.

Now THAT'S and overreaction.


79Warrior

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 30, 2012, 09:38:51 AM
I hope Mayo is as good as you guys think.

I'm not so sure. Better than Lockett? I dunno.

With this said, Todd would be a nice piece to add, and certainly could fill a role on offense.



At least Mayo has an outside shot. I have seen very little of that from Lockett.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: 79Warrior on November 30, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
At least Mayo has an outside shot. I have seen very little of that from Lockett.

You're right, but Mayo shot 33% from 3 on the season, and only 25% during conf. play.

He can help, but he's not Novak. Let's be realistic.

BTW, Lockett's career numbers are decent from 3, but he never seems to take many of them.

Maybe MU could play "small" and have Trent play a little of the Jae Crowder role?

gmhfordham1015

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 30, 2012, 10:05:23 AM

Maybe MU could play "small" and have Trent play a little of the Jae Crowder role?

Trent could never fill the role Jae played. Trent is shorter and no where near as strong as tough as Jae was. No question this could never happen.

jeffreyweee

Mayo is a great perimeter defender and play maker. Had he not hit that slump he probably shoots 38%-40% from three while being able to get to the rim and take pressure off of other players. He's not a savior or elite player (not yet at least) but he'd be a good help.

I'm not sure why Lockett isn't as good as advertised but he does look a couple steps slow and trying to force action.

Boone

Even if he did return -- which he won't -- Mayo's no panacea for what ails this team.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: jeffreyweee on November 30, 2012, 10:15:07 AM
Mayo is a great perimeter defender and play maker. Had he not hit that slump he probably shoots 38%-40% from three while being able to get to the rim and take pressure off of other players. He's not a savior or elite player (not yet at least) but he'd be a good help.

I'm not sure why Lockett isn't as good as advertised but he does look a couple steps slow and trying to force action.

The only problem is that HE DID hit a slump.

He's a good player, no doubt, but let's set our expectations appropriately, right?

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: jeffreyweee on November 30, 2012, 10:15:07 AM
Mayo is a great perimeter defender and play maker. Had he not hit that slump he probably shoots 38%-40% from three while being able to get to the rim and take pressure off of other players. He's not a savior or elite player (not yet at least) but he'd be a good help.

I'm not sure why Lockett isn't as good as advertised but he does look a couple steps slow and trying to force action.

It probably comes from the fact that 90% of the people on this forum never saw him play at ASU.

madtownwarrior

Do say how you know so definitively he won't return...


Quote from: Boone on November 30, 2012, 10:22:13 AM
Even if he did return -- which he won't -- Mayo's no panacea for what ails this team.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 30, 2012, 10:28:06 AM
The only problem is that HE DID hit a slump.

He's a good player, no doubt, but let's set our expectations appropriately, right?

If Mayo doesn't return he'll become All Big East and a sure fire first round NBA draft pick.  A return by Todd will help, but he's not gonna take the team on his back.
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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

ATL MU Warrior

One positive about Todd is that at least he isn't hesitant/afraid to shoot the ball.  We have too many guys right now on offense that look like the last thing they want to do is shoot.  Don't know if that's due to coaching or if they are just waiting for someone else to step up, but we need guys to start shooting the damn ball if they are open.  Way too many pump fakes-1 or 2 dribbles-pass back to the perimeter-repeat for my taste.  Shoot the damn ball...these guys are all incredibly skilled or they wouldn't be here...time to show it.

JD

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 30, 2012, 12:15:39 PM
One positive about Todd is that at least he isn't hesitant/afraid to shoot the ball.  We have too many guys right now on offense that look like the last thing they want to do is shoot.  Don't know if that's due to coaching or if they are just waiting for someone else to step up, but we need guys to start shooting the damn ball if they are open.  Way too many pump fakes-1 or 2 dribbles-pass back to the perimeter-repeat for my taste.  Shoot the damn ball...these guys are all incredibly skilled or they wouldn't be here...time to show it.


Almost as if Bo Ryan was coaching last night... Ball must touch every player twice before shooting.
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Goose

We need him back badly. I agree that he is not afraid to shoot and create his own shot. Not overly confident that he will be back, but hoping for the best. He showed glimpses last year of being really good and we need really good badly at this moment.

MU82

Quote from: jeffreyweee on November 30, 2012, 10:15:07 AM
Mayo is a great perimeter defender and play maker. Had he not hit that slump he probably shoots 38%-40% from three while being able to get to the rim and take pressure off of other players. He's not a savior or elite player (not yet at least) but he'd be a good help.

I'm not sure why Lockett isn't as good as advertised but he does look a couple steps slow and trying to force action.

And had he been 7 feet tall and dominant, he would have been Kevin Durant.
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AirPunches

Quote from: Goose on November 30, 2012, 01:01:59 PM
We need him back badly. I agree that he is not afraid to shoot and create his own shot. Not overly confident that he will be back, but hoping for the best. He showed glimpses last year of being really good and we need really good badly at this moment.

+1

Fact is that this team needs more talent on the perimeter. Get back to a three guard offense with Cadougan, Mayo, and Blue. Our transition offense sucks this year. I like Trent a lot and I'm happy he's at MU but in my honest opinion he's not a very good fit out there.


Nukem2

Quote from: MARQ_13 on November 30, 2012, 01:32:06 PM
+1

Fact is that this team needs more talent on the perimeter. Get back to a three guard offense with Cadougan, Mayo, and Blue. Our transition offense sucks this year. I like Trent a lot and I'm happy he's at MU but in my honest opinion he's not a very good fit out there.


The thing with Lockett is that he is an undersized forward.  He simply has not shown guard skills to-date.  Maybe its just a matter of fitting in...we shall see.

bilsu

Quote from: MARQ_13 on November 30, 2012, 01:32:06 PM
+1

Fact is that this team needs more talent on the perimeter. Get back to a three guard offense with Cadougan, Mayo, and Blue. Our transition offense sucks this year. I like Trent a lot and I'm happy he's at MU but in my honest opinion he's not a very good fit out there.


Our transaction offense sucks, because our defense cannot create turnovers. What is wrong with this team is on the defensive side. Last year, because we had a chance to steal the ball we had a chance to comeback. This team has not shown me that they can do this.

Goose

I agree that our defense is limiting our ability to score quick points. We are not getting the transition buckets and that is hurting a lot. If our pressure does not improve we will continue to struggle scoring points. I would play the most athletic guys as much as possible and roll the dice.

unforgiven

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 30, 2012, 09:38:51 AM
I hope Mayo is as good as you guys think.

I'm not so sure. Better than Lockett? I dunno.

Better than Lockett? Yes.
"Times are tough. And people are gonna be drinkin' themselves some booze."     Willie, A Raisin In The Sun

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: unforgiven on November 30, 2012, 08:01:25 PM
Better than Lockett? Yes.

Seriously? Lockett hasn't been great, but has a pretty impressive body of work... so I assume he will end up with similar performance.

Mayo showed some flashes as a frosh., but was very inconsistent.

If Mayo comes back, I guess we are going to find out who is better.