Its the end of the game and he's still limping pretty bad. Hopefully it's nothing serious.
Good sign that he was walking around and never went to the locker room. Guess he might sit against UMBC and be back for Florida, or UW at the latest.
Hyper extended knee? Pulled groin? Ugly looking.
Yeah, I let out a huge sigh of relief to see he was walking after getting carried off the court. Hopefully he's OK. That court seemed slippery because Jamil or Lockett slipped like 2 minutes later.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 21, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
Good sign that he was walking around and never went to the locker room. Guess he might sit against UMBC and be back for Florida, or UW at the latest.
Sounds alot like what he kept hearing about Gardner last year after the Nova game
"Doesnt look bad, probably be good to go for practice in a day"
"You know it wouldnt hurt to sit him out just one game, we will kill DePaul anyways"
"Just one more game couldnt hurt, we got this tourney thing locked up no worries"
"Give him as long as he needs if that is until the Big East Tourney thats fine"
"The Big East tourney dont matter, as long as he is good to go for the Real Tourney"
I hoping for best but expecting the worst, we always have a big injury like this especially when he is just getting into a groove
Quote from: JoBo2756 on November 21, 2012, 06:24:59 PM
Yeah, I let out a huge sigh of relief to see he was walking after getting carried off the court. Hopefully he's OK. That court seemed slippery because Jamil or Lockett slipped like 2 minutes later.
Gardner walked off the court after Nova last year, wasnt back for 5 weeks
I predict he doesn't play against UMBC. Earliest we can hope for is Florida.
Way too early to predict but I'm sure it started to stiffen up as he sat on the bench. Certain MRI.
Let's also remember that DG carries 300 pounds. Big difference.
Quote from: tower912 on November 21, 2012, 06:27:14 PM
I predict he doesn't play against UMBC. Earliest we can hope for is Florida.
I predict South Florida
He'll be doing the Samoan Slap Dance before you know it
Quote from: jsglow on November 21, 2012, 06:28:50 PM
Let's also remember that DG carries 300 pounds. Big difference.
True
Quote from: elephantraker on November 21, 2012, 06:30:16 PM
He'll be doing the Samoan Slap Dance before you know it
You mean that dance that Every Mountain West Football team does?
Slap a little poi on it and he will be fine.
Now we patiently wait for BigDaddy's diagnosis.
They are already starting the "Gardner" game on the other board
"Vander will be in next play"
"Vander luckily is walking around"
"Vander would be best to sit for UMBC"
"Sucks that Vander will miss Florida"
"Let him rest till Wisconsin"
His status keeps getting worse as the minutes pass
Buzz just said that the doctor doesn't think it is his ACL. Need to do some tests to make sure.
Looked like either a hip or groin. The knee didn't look that awkward when he slipped.
well cool, now we can switch the board agenda from LW hating to Vander injury speculating...
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 21, 2012, 06:31:14 PM
You mean that dance that Every Mountain West Football team does?
YES
Quote from: DavantesInferno on November 21, 2012, 06:37:07 PM
Looked like either a hip or groin. The knee didn't look that awkward when he slipped.
Knee was being iced.
Yes the knee was being iced. And he left the game 10 seconds before the buzzer
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 21, 2012, 06:34:20 PM
They are already starting the "Gardner" game on the other board
"Vander will be in next play"
"Vander luckily is walking around"
"Vander would be best to sit for UMBC"
"Sucks that Vander will miss Florida"
"Let him rest till Wisconsin"
His status keeps getting worse as the minutes pass
This is good news ... these boards are never right about these things.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 21, 2012, 06:41:20 PM
Yes the knee was being iced. And he left the game 10 seconds before the buzzer
He actually went through the handshake line.
Mac repeated what Buzz said ... they do not think it is the knee and he will have it checked out in Hawaii today (four hours behind CT) or tomorrow before they head home.
That hospital better stay open for Vander Blue
#DoYouKnowWhoIam?
Hunt:
Said MU coach Buzz Williams, "One doctor here said he didn't tear his ACL, just sprained it. But that's not been confirmed. We'll try to figure that out over the next 24 hours."
"He'll be fine," MU point guard Junior Cadougan said.
"He's icing it," forward Jamil Wilson said. "He says he'll be OK."
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 21, 2012, 06:22:20 PM
Good sign that he was walking around and never went to the locker room. Guess he might sit against UMBC and be back for Florida, or UW at the latest.
Gardner even came back and played against Villanova, so walking around means very little.
He just tweeted.
Says thanks for the prayers and well wishes. Said he will be fine. Looks to see yall on monday at BC
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 21, 2012, 07:01:59 PM
He just tweeted.
Says thanks for the prayers and well wishes. Said he will be fine. Looks to see yall on monday at BC
The team must be staying at a Holiday Inn. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
CBS's Goodman tweeting that Vander has a knee sprain and is day to day.
But when you think about it, who isn't?
That fall/slip looked horrific. Thoughts and prayers to Vander Blue for a speedy recovery. Just based on how that looked, if Vander plays again this year...I'd be thrilled. Looked awful.
Quote from: Ners on November 21, 2012, 08:03:55 PM
That fall/slip looked horrific. Thoughts and prayers to Vander Blue for a speedy recovery. Just based on how that looked, if Vander plays again this year...I'd be thrilled. Looked awful.
Ners - will you please knock it off with the negative waves?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on November 21, 2012, 06:44:36 PM
This is good news ... these boards are never right about these things. anything.
Corrected.
Quote from: tower912 on November 21, 2012, 08:02:50 PM
CBS's Goodman tweeting that Vander has a knee sprain and is day to day.
But hen you think about it, who isn't?
Knee sprain means a slight tear I believe...
Quote from: Dreadman24 on November 21, 2012, 08:15:58 PM
Knee sprain means a slight tear I believe...
Indeed it does.
Sprains happen to muscles. Strains happen to ligaments. The human ACL is a ligament. Vander Blue is super human.
Discuss.
If anything can be gained from this injury, its that Scoop will blow it out of proportion and Vander will be fine. That is all.
Quote from: GoldenZebra on November 21, 2012, 08:22:40 PM
If anything can be gained from this injury, its that Scoop will blow it out of proportion and Vander will be fine. That is all.
I'm good with that scenario. ;)
Actually, sprains happen to ligaments and strains happen to muscles/tendons.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on November 21, 2012, 08:50:51 PM
Actually, sprains happen to ligaments and strains happen to muscles/tendons.
Yup.
Whatever. Vander sucks anyway.
My "source" tells me Vander walked off the bus limping in noticeable pain. Not teal.
Proceed to jump to conclusions.
The mechanism of injury to me looked like MCL.
Quote from: BME to MD on November 21, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
The mechanism of injury to me looked like MCL.
What, if anything, might one conclude from that?
Quote from: AZWarrior on November 21, 2012, 09:39:35 PM
What, if anything, might one conclude from that?
That would mean much better than an ACL injury. Thats about it though.
The immediate and long-term prognosis of an isolated MCL injury is much better than an ACL. However, MCL injuries have a tendency to be associated with ACL and meniscus injuries.
The statement by Buzz that the initial doc eval didn't think it was the ACL is reassuring. Unfortunately the physical exam is much better at ruling in an ACL injury than ruling it out.
So until an MRI is done, no one will know for sure, right?
Quote from: BME to MD on November 21, 2012, 10:28:49 PM
The immediate and long-term prognosis of an isolated MCL injury is much better than an ACL. However, MCL injuries have a tendency to be associated with ACL and meniscus injuries.
The statement by Buzz that the initial doc eval didn't think it was the ACL is reassuring. Unfortunately the physical exam is much better at ruling in an ACL injury than ruling it out.
Not that I want to ignite speculation but when I tore my ACL and meniscus both my wife, who is a PT, and my ortho doc thought I had at worst an meniscus tear. MRI showed I completely vaporized my ACL. I even went golfing the day of the MRI without too much discomfort.
Generally I agree though that it looked much more like an MCL then ACL injury
Quote from: BME to MD on November 21, 2012, 10:28:49 PM
The immediate and long-term prognosis of an isolated MCL injury is much better than an ACL. However, MCL injuries have a tendency to be associated with ACL and meniscus injuries.
The statement by Buzz that the initial doc eval didn't think it was the ACL is reassuring. Unfortunately the physical exam is much better at ruling in an ACL injury than ruling it out.
MCL injuries are often associated with ACL injuries, because of the mechanism of an ACL injury being forceful and twisting, resulting in ancillary damage to other ligaments.
The opposite, a MCL mechanism injury rarely results in ancillary damage to the ACL.
I tend to think this one looked scarier than it was. What will slow Blue's return will likely be confidence in this knees stability, especially with they type of player (slasher) he is.
wait, wait, wait. So are people suddenly worried that Vander can't play? Must mean he is a contributor!?!?1
Glad to give an update but according to most here I am staying at the Lahaina Holiday Inn Express.
Reminds me of when 75% of people crapped on Dom until he was out for the year and we sucked without him.
Vander tweeted:
@Vander13lue: So Thankful for making the All- Tournament team! Thank you lord for all of your blessings! The knee will be fine!
Quote from: TallTitan34 on November 22, 2012, 02:37:32 AM
Vander tweeted:
@Vander13lue: So Thankful for making the All- Tournament team! Thank you lord for all of your blessings! The knee will be fine!
Thankful for that!
Even if there is no serious structural damage, I still suspect that his 'day to day' status keeps him out of Monday's game at a minimum. No doubt there's swelling and real soreness that will take awhile.
I know Vander would much prefer to be goofing with his teammates on the beach in Maui today rather than sitting at the hospital getting tested, but I'll bet he'll enjoy Thanksgiving dinner with the boys this afternoon if the orthopedic specialist tells him he'll be just fine following some rehab over the next week.
Quote from: Bocephys on November 21, 2012, 06:34:03 PM
Now we patiently wait for BigDaddy's diagnosis.
Haha. Well played
Quote from: macman320 on November 21, 2012, 11:52:58 PM
wait, wait, wait. So are people suddenly worried that Vander can't play? Must mean he is a contributor!?!?1
Well I'm not sure there's too many players we could have injured for the year that wouldn't make me worried about this team - and I'm one whose criticized Vander, but still knew he had value as at least a role-player (though he's definitely proved me wrong in Maui).
It's his third year and he really is starting to show the breakout signs we all were hoping for - would hate to see him lose it when he's got this type of confidence/momentum going.
I've always been uneasy about Vander's offensive game, but you could/can always rely on his hustle, intensity and -- above all -- defense. That said, his Maui jumper has been pretty sweet and certainly more compact. What's more, I'm never seen him this confident with his J. Whether out for the season or not, Vanderbilt's got some great days ahead at MU...
Wade missed a game his junior year. I think it had to do with the MCL. Outside of missing a game, it did not slow him down much, if any.
Quote from: Bocephys on November 21, 2012, 06:34:03 PM
Now we patiently wait for BigDaddy's diagnosis.
Who cares about his diagnosis? I want to know if the team packing Vander's jersey for the next away game.
Vander on both feet this morning at the hotel. Was moving around ok, albeit with a slight limp, but did not seem to be in any noticeable pain. Did not notice him wearing a device or anything of a serious nature on his knee, although he was wearing long shorts which could have possibly obscured a compression bandage or something less complicated (although I'm not implying that is/was the case).
Word on the street is that he will be on the team flight tonight, and he will get a complete exam (i.e. MRI) back in Milwaukee this weekend. Nobody here seems to be too worried, although it's a very cautious mood. Vander's tweets indicate that he is convinced he'll be ok, but we're not going to know anything for sure until UMBC.
Thanks much for the update. :)
Quote from: Benny B on November 22, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
Vander on both feet this morning at the hotel. Was moving around ok, albeit with a slight limp, but did not seem to be in any noticeable pain. Did not notice him wearing a device or anything of a serious nature on his knee, although he was wearing long shorts which could have possibly obscured a compression bandage or something less complicated (although I'm not implying that is/was the case).
Word on the street is that he will be on the team flight tonight, and he will get a complete exam (i.e. MRI) back in Milwaukee this weekend. Nobody here seems to be too worried, although it's a very cautious mood. Vander's tweets indicate that he is convinced he'll be ok, but we're not going to know anything for sure until UMBC.
So they aren't packing his jersey to bring back to Milwaukee...crap.