9 pts, 9 rebs in 21min. Not too shabby.
Happy for him, Mayo being out might be just what he needs. Disappointed with Vander however.
Dramatic improvement. He was a chicken with his head cut off last year. Really active on the boards and confident in his scoring plays. So much for writing him off.
I don't know who wrote it, but the Fulce comparison is apt. 6-7, does a little of everything, energy. At least for this game.
Really impressed with Juan tonight, think this might be a breakout year for him. I think Juan and Derrick Wilson are most improved from last year. Lockett will be huge this year for us and Jake Thomas with big minutes and a very good game. This is going to be a fun season to watch.
Vander needs to get himself in check. Disappointed with him tonight.
Fulce was automatic on the 10-15 ft baseline jumper and an outstanding free throw shooter. Juan made a nice 3 today but isn't a proven shooter from any spot on the floor. His athleticism and energy are off the charts, though, and just what a healthy Fulce would have provided.
Quote from: 96warrior on November 11, 2012, 06:05:06 PM
Really impressed with Juan tonight, think this might be a breakout year for him. I think Juan and Derrick Wilson are most improved from last year. Lockett will be huge this year for us and Jake Thomas with big minutes and a very good game. This is going to be a fun season to watch.
Vander needs to get himself in check. Disappointed with him tonight.
Crazy that a couple of players would make a lot of progress from their Freshman year to their Sophomore. Who'd a thunk?
Quote from: tower912 on November 11, 2012, 08:22:38 PM
Crazy that a couple of players would make a lot of progress from their Freshman year to their Sophomore. Who'd a thunk?
I didn't see that much improvement between frosh and soph years from other players. Erik Williams comes to mind. Juan and Derrick both looked like different guys out there tonight. Much more confidence, making plays they would not have last year. Juan did look like a chicken with his head cut off last year, he was really good tonight. I cringed when Derrick was in last season, he looked like a very capable back up to Junior tonight. Looking forward to seeing them both develop this year.
I don't think Erik Williams ever went for 9 & 9... nice lil' game for JuanA
when your game is more switchable than traditional, you'll get a shot to make plays for this team ;)
Got kind of worried when Juan when to the bench and started grabbing his shoulder.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on November 11, 2012, 08:33:26 PM
Got kind of worried when Juan when to the bench and started grabbing his shoulder.
I was, too. Glad to see him come back after that. The kid had tons of heart last year, happy to see his game catching up to that. Game one, so taking with a grain of salt, but promising for the season.
Quote from: mr.MUskie on November 11, 2012, 08:33:26 PM
Got kind of worried when Juan when to the bench and started grabbing his shoulder.
Honestly, it had to be really scary for him. Feels something rip in the shoulder he has injured twice and had surgery on once. Glad to see he was ok.
Quote from: forgetful on November 11, 2012, 09:11:17 PM
Honestly, it had to be really scary for him. Feels something rip in the shoulder he has injured twice and had surgery on once. Glad to see he was ok.
Juan is a tough kid...loved his energy. Buzz said after that it is Juan's job to not find a reason for Buzz to take him out of the game.
I am glad to see that he put on some weight in the off-season.
Quote from: tower912 on November 11, 2012, 05:58:07 PM
I don't know who wrote it, but the Fulce comparison is apt. 6-7, does a little of everything, energy. At least for this game.
Good comparison except Anderson has more upside than Fulce, Fulce used every ounce of talent he had and Juan hasn't scratched the surface yet.
Quote from: hairyworthen on November 12, 2012, 08:03:39 AM
Good comparison except Anderson has more upside than Fulce, Fulce used every ounce of talent he had and Juan hasn't scratched the surface yet.
More lacking in health than lacking in talent for Fulce. He played with completely shot knees.
Quote from: hairyworthen on November 12, 2012, 08:03:39 AM
Good comparison except Anderson has more upside than Fulce, Fulce used every ounce of talent he had and Juan hasn't scratched the surface yet.
I'm sorry, but that is completely off base. To say that Joe Fulce "used every ounce if talent he had" is just plain stupid. Fulce , not JFB was the player we were excited about recruiting, he was an athletic freak with a good shot and unreal energy. Had he not gotten injured he would have been a completely different player at MU.
Quote from: hairyworthen on November 12, 2012, 08:03:39 AM
Good comparison except Anderson has more upside than Fulce, Fulce used every ounce of talent he had and Juan hasn't scratched the surface yet.
Totally disagee. Fulce should have been a really good get (more highly touted than Butler) and was an athletic freak.
His body just couldn't hold together for him.
Don't get me wrong, I love Juan. But Fulce had a ton of upside until his knees were wrecked.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 12, 2012, 08:18:36 AM
Totally disagee. Fulce should have been a really good get (more highly touted than Butler) and was an athletic freak.
His body just couldn't hold together for him.
Don't get me wrong, I love Juan. But Fulce had a ton of upside until his knees were wrecked.
+1
Members of the coaching staff were quick to point out that Fulce was by far the most athletic guy at Marquette when he was here. If not for injuries, I think he could have been our best player as a junior and senior.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 12, 2012, 08:18:36 AM
Totally disagee. Fulce should have been a really good get (more highly touted than Butler) and was an athletic freak.
His body just couldn't hold together for him.
Don't get me wrong, I love Juan. But Fulce had a ton of upside until his knees were wrecked.
True, but thats the point. fulce played to the best of his ability given the injuries and had no more to give, Juan can still get better.
Quote from: LA on November 12, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I'm sorry, but that is completely off base. To say that Joe Fulce "used every ounce if talent he had" is just plain stupid. Fulce , not JFB was the player we were excited about recruiting, he was an athletic freak with a good shot and unreal energy. Had he not gotten injured he would have been a completely different player at MU.
So you think Fulce didn't give every ounce of talent he had? I do, he played his ass off, but was limited by the injuries. Thats not a rip on Fulce, the injuries happened and it sucked. Anderson still has upside, thats the point. Fulce had the injuries, you can't live in a bubble and say he could have done this or that if, Im sorry, that is plain stupid.
Quote from: hairyworthen on November 12, 2012, 08:39:19 AM
So you think Fulce didn't give every ounce of talent he had? I do, he played his ass off, but was limited by the injuries. Thats not a rip on Fulce, the injuries happened and it sucked. Anderson still has upside, thats the point. Fulce had the injuries, you can't live in a bubble and say he could have done this or that if, Im sorry, that is plain stupid.
Then you are using upside incorrectly.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 12, 2012, 08:44:22 AM
Then you are using upside incorrectly.
I don't know why everyone is getting their panties in a bunch. I never meant to imply Fulce wasn't talented.
After his injuries he had little or no upside left. He was playing as good as he was going to get.
Barring injuries, (god forbid,) Anderson is going to get better, I beleive he has just scracthed the surface on how good he can be. Hence, he still has upside, room to get better, whereas Fulce, post injuries was not going to get better than what he put out. It isn't that hard to figure out.
Quote from: hairyworthen on November 12, 2012, 08:54:09 AM
I don't know why everyone is getting their panties in a bunch. I never meant to imply Fulce wasn't talented. After his injuries he had little or no upside left. He was playing as good as he was going to get.
Barring injuries, (god forbid,) Anderson is going to get better, I beleive he has just scracthed the surface on how good he can be. Hence, he still has upside, room to get better, whereas Fulce, post injuries was not going to get better than what he put out. It isn't that hard to figure out.
makes sense.
Juan played with a purpose yesterday and has really started to grasp what Buzz wants from him. I'm convinced he'll contribute at the #3 off the bench.
Grats, Juan, on your single-single.
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 12, 2012, 08:24:45 AM
+1
Members of the coaching staff were quick to point out that Fulce was by far the most athletic guy at Marquette when he was here. If not for injuries, I think he could have been our best player as a junior and senior.
Rosiak likened Fulce to smaller Shawn Marion after seeing him play during open gym sessions when he first arrived on campus.
There is always a danger with drawing conclusions from one game.
For example, Jamail Jones put up 10 points in 20 minutes last year's opener. It was his only 10 point game of the season, and he was not part of the rotation by the time Big East play started.
I'm not saying it can't happen for Juan--I'm just saying some tempered optimism is in order until we see what he does against quality opponents.
No argument, 84. But Juan is going to get minutes this year by default. Just like Jake Thomas. So congrats to him on a fine game and let us hope it is a sign of things to come and not an outlier.
Quote from: The Equalizer on November 12, 2012, 10:38:05 AM
There is always a danger with drawing conclusions from one game.
For example, Jamail Jones put up 10 points in 20 minutes last year's opener. It was his only 10 point game of the season, and he was not part of the rotation by the time Big East play started.
And Jamil started with 2 points in 17 minutes last year.
Excellent point.
It's a good thing Buzz didn't put too much emphasis on one game or Crowder never comes to MU. So, again, let us hope this is foreshadowing and not an outlier.