Just walked into the al with Duane Wilson.
Wish I could be there now
That cat supposed to be any good? Any relation to that big time recruit we got coming in, DaJuan Johnson?
More importantly, was the blue man there?
No thread about JaJuan Johnson at Madness would be complete without including this tidbit from
StillWarriors account of MM:
Quote from: StillWarriors on October 13, 2012, 10:13:45 AM
-JaJuan was there, so was his mom. Almost all of the moms of the current team were there hanging with JaJuan's mom. Buzz is good. Big push for a commitment this weekend.
Quote from: reinko on October 13, 2012, 06:40:50 AM
More importantly, was the blue man there?
Again, one
must question your priorities.....
Quote from: Bocephys on October 12, 2012, 08:56:12 PM
That cat supposed to be any good? Any relation to that big time recruit we got coming in, DaJuan Johnson?
I've got Jujuan projected at 1.68 in Value Add for the 2013-14 season, which is a very strong bench player in his freshman year and projects as over 3% his sophomore season - meaning he should be a BCS starter as a sophomore.
Defininitely would be contending to be our top rated recruit depending on which service you look at and how he progresses in his final year.
Now the other Jujuan Johnson in the database had one of the best Value Add careers in the database - including his final season at Purdue during which he had an 8.58 Value Add to make him the 7th most valuable player in the country that year.
I though we had this Jajuan kid in the bag. Apparently we couldnt close...On to the next recruit
Why? Has he verbaled elsewhere? If so--please let us know.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 14, 2012, 11:57:41 AM
I though we had this Jajuan kid in the bag. Apparently we couldnt close...On to the next recruit
On to the next recruit because he hasn't committed yet? What?!?!? It's been two days since Madness!
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 14, 2012, 11:57:41 AM
I though we had this Jajuan kid in the bag. Apparently we couldnt close...On to the next recruit
He's finished with his visits without committing to anyone. That was his plan from the start. I like the fact that Marquette entered the picture later than the other two finalists. I plan to give the kid a couple of days to make up his mind and think good thoughts in the meantime.
Who are the other two finalists?
Jajuan is committing on Wednesday. Settle down, Chicken Littles. So much pessimism on this board.
Quote from: oneposteagle on October 14, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Jajuan is committing on Wednesday. Settle down, Chicken Littles. So much pessimism on this board.
Who's he committin' to? Did he give Buzz a silent?
Quote from: oneposteagle on October 14, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Jajuan is committing on Wednesday. Settle down, Chicken Littles. So much pessimism on this board.
Everyone on the internet has the right to constantly freak out over baseless speculation, thank you very much.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 14, 2012, 03:14:23 PM
Who's he committing to?
His girl. I hear he got her a really nice "engaged to be engaged" ring.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 14, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
Everyone on the internet has the right to constantly freak out over baseless speculation, thank you very much.
I thought this was the point of internet message boards.
Quote from: oneposteagle on October 14, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Jajuan is committing on Wednesday. Settle down, Chicken Littles. So much pessimism on this board.
So do I now get to freak out in a completely positive manner?
Quote from: oneposteagle on October 14, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Jajuan is committing on Wednesday. Settle down, Chicken Littles. So much pessimism on this board.
Where did you here he is committing on Wednesday from?
Quote from: Skatastrophy on October 14, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
Everyone on the internet has the right to constantly freak out over baseless speculation, thank you very much.
+1
According to Alabama site some one with a pretty good track record has said he called and told Alabama he is coming there.
Quote from: bilsu on October 14, 2012, 09:03:16 PM
According to Alabama site some one with a pretty good track record has said he called and told Alabama he is coming there.
--- comet2009 wrote:
Marquette feeling very good about Johnson's visit!
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Where are you seeing that at? A guy on another board is claiming Johnson called Grant and committed this morning. He's right a lot of the time about what he says but I won't believe anything until Johnson publicly announces.
Posted on the Scout MU site by Bryant11:
Hey guys. I was the one that posted that over on the Alabama site. I got it from a site called tigerdroppings.com, which is a message board for all of the SEC. A guy that is pretty accurate with football info said that his 'source' told him that Johnson called Grant and committed. That doesn't mean it actually happened or that I believe it. I was just passing along the info I received. I do think he chooses either Alabama or Marquette.
"I promise you this: there will be no one that will work harder and be more dedicated than I will."--Anthony Grant
I heard many of the recuirts did not like their visit to madness this year.
Quote from: oneposteagle on October 14, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Jajuan is committing on Wednesday. Settle down, Chicken Littles. So much pessimism on this board.
Why Wednesday? Doesn't he know we do things on late Friday afternoons?
Why did you hear they did not enjoy themselves? Sounded like it was a good event. With a solid crowd?
Madness like the Buzz imitators just do not live up to the hype/expectations. I do think it was one of the better madnesses at MU, but i always considered it to be a bad idea for recruiting. Much better to bring a recruit in and give him sole attention than to have him watch something that is good, but not special.
Quote from: bilsu on October 15, 2012, 08:52:12 AM
Madness like the Buzz imitators just do not live up to the hype/expectations. I do think it was one of the better madnesses at MU, but i always considered it to be a bad idea for recruiting. Much better to bring a recruit in and give him sole attention than to have him watch something that is good, but not special.
I completely agree. Unless you can get special guests, or ATVs (LOL) it probably isn't the best recruiting tool.
MU's Madness just doesn't compare to the atmosphere generated at programs like UNC, KU, or UK. Sorry, not even close. Aside from the obvious enthusiasm, ya gotta wonder about a kid who would be swayed by such nonsense anyway.
I kept an eye on the recruits during madness. Total boredom.
Unfortunately, the highlight of their emotion was the "Gangnam Style" dance by the women's team. I doubt that swayed them to commit.
Jabari was genuinely interested in watching and cheering for ST during the scrimmage, but that was it.
Put me in the group that thinks Dunking contests are a waste of time.
I'm sure Buzz has been doing this long enough to know what is, or isn't effective.
A working microphone and a sound system that wasn't found in the bottom of a Cracker Jack box would help.
Seriously, 2 hours of ear-piercing feedback, distortion and the microphone cutting out does not make for the best environment.
Madness had a great crowd, however the production value left a lot to be desired.
A few pointers to the Athletic dept:
1. Test the microphones before 7:01pm
2. An entire new sound system may not be a bad idea. If the distortion is real bad, don't turn the volume up to try to solve it.
3. Lose the women's scrimmage. It was nothing more than a layup drill with the girl breaking into a jog only on rare occasions. Does not inspire one to attend a women's game.
4. The 3-point contest women vs. men a couple yrs ago had the building up for grabs. Might make sense to bring it back and lose the dunk contest. Nobody has enjoyed a dunk contest since Spud Webb and Michael Jordan.
5. More highlight videos, and Buzz press conferences.
6. Fewer hokey contests (i.e. talent contest, impersonations, ventriloquist acts, etc).
7. Maybe ask the family member of the current players stand up and be recognized.
8. Welcome the recruits and their families to MU (not by name of course).
If you're going to half-a$$ it, don't bother. An event like Friday's was not up to the standards of our fine program or school.
Did mikehunt meet Johnson?
9. And get those damn kids off my lawn.
Quote from: kmwtrucks on October 15, 2012, 08:41:32 AM
Why did you hear they did not enjoy themselves? Sounded like it was a good event. With a solid crowd?
Biggest thing was the lack of parties Friday night. All they did that night was sit in Humphrey.
Good. A recruit shouldn't be picking a school based on parties.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 15, 2012, 11:08:57 AM
Good. A recruit shouldn't be picking a school based on parties.
Yeah, I'm honestly happy that we're keeping high-school kids out of trouble when they take official visits to our campus.
If recruits want to go to parties take them to parties. What high school kid wouldn't want to see a college party?
And what happens when MPD busts the party and the recruit gets a underage drinking ticket?
Not worth it.
A high school recruit getting busted for something would make us wish for the days of the so called Hiroshima.
Eh i think I'd rather take the risk, rather than having them sit in a dorm room all night thinking to themselves how much Marquette blows and then have them head off to a big state school the next weekend for another visit.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on October 15, 2012, 11:34:21 AM
Eh i think I'd rather take the risk, rather than having them sit in a dorm room all night thinking to themselves how much Marquette blows and then have them head off to a big state school the next weekend for another visit.
This goes back to the whole winning at all costs, or winning while running a clean program argument.
I'm with Bieberhole, if the kids want to go out then take them out. I know I was sold on MU after attending a party when I first visited.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on October 15, 2012, 11:34:21 AM
Eh i think I'd rather take the risk, rather than having them sit in a dorm room all night thinking to themselves how much Marquette blows and then have them head off to a big state school the next weekend for another visit.
Hell no! Not with Larry in charge, if that happened on Buzz's watch and the HS kid got busted, you better believe Buzz would be gone.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 15, 2012, 11:22:31 AM
And what happens when MPD busts the party and the recruit gets a underage drinking ticket?
Not worth it.
Since when does MPD bust parties? DPS breaks it up first, thats when you get them out of there.
Yeah, get em good and drunk, especially when they come with their mom.
Quote from: ken8406 on October 15, 2012, 10:56:24 AM
Biggest thing was the lack of parties Friday night. All they did that night was sit in Humphrey.
You mean like that Halloween party two years ago? Do we really want to go there?
Quote from: BRMU23 on October 15, 2012, 11:49:45 AM
Since when does MPD bust parties? DPS breaks it up first, thats when you get them out of there.
I had a house party busted by MPD.
Nobody was arrested/ticketed, fortunately, but they came and "encouraged" the crowd to disperse forthwith. DPS did not come first.
anyhow, why not give the full on Jesus Shuttlesworth treatment?
Apparently it's happening elsewhere.
"When we got back to the dorms the players had girls set up for us. If you've ever seen the movie "He Got Game" then you'll understand better, but there were three of us and there were three girls there for us. We'd never met these girls before, but they were there for us.
I won't go in to all the details, but let's just say we had a great time with them and they were saying the whole time that we should come to the school and it could be like this all the time. "http://highschoolhoop.com/high-school-stories/2012/01/recruit-x-tells-espn-what-really-happens-during-recruiting/
Quote from: Pakuni on October 15, 2012, 11:55:15 AM
I had a house party busted by MPD.
Nobody was arrested/ticketed, fortunately, but they came and "encouraged" the crowd to disperse forthwith. DPS did not come first.
anyhow, why not give the full on Jesus Shuttlesworth treatment?
Apparently it's happening elsewhere.
"When we got back to the dorms the players had girls set up for us. If you've ever seen the movie "He Got Game" then you'll understand better, but there were three of us and there were three girls there for us. We'd never met these girls before, but they were there for us.
I won't go in to all the details, but let's just say we had a great time with them and they were saying the whole time that we should come to the school and it could be like this all the time. "
http://highschoolhoop.com/high-school-stories/2012/01/recruit-x-tells-espn-what-really-happens-during-recruiting/
Just because it's happening elsewhere doesn't mean we need to associate ourselves with it. If it costs us a few recruits, so be it.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on October 15, 2012, 11:20:14 AM
If recruits want to go to parties take them to parties. What high school kid wouldn't want to see a college party?
Agree!!
Quote from: Bocephys on October 15, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
Just because it's happening elsewhere doesn't mean we need to associate ourselves with it. If it costs us a few recruits, so be it.
Square. Let's make them stay for Sunday morning mass.
I'm all for showing kids a good time as long as its within the law and NCAA rules. I don't think they should be taking kids to an economics lecture on Friday night, but let's be honest, any top 100 recruit who is only focused on finding the hottest girls and best campus parties is probably not going to Marquette and I don't think Buzz wants those kids anyway.
When I was in high school I did two overnight campus visits (I was a non-basketball athlete). At one school the guys were nice enough but it seemed like all people did was get wasted (including some very attractive women). At Marquette, there were obviously parties but the people seemed more well rounded and open to doing things other than getting drunk. I didn't drink in high school so I liked the Marquette scene a lot more. When I hosted recruits in college we occasionally offered them a beer while in the apartment but never pushed it or got drunk with them.
A (girl) friend of mine was a highly recruited basketball player who was an excellent student and very focused. She visited Marquette and they took her out to the bars and ordered several shots. She committed to Minnesota the following week. An assistant coach told me years later that he deeply regreted what happened and they put a policy in place after that visit.
Quote from: frozena pizza on October 15, 2012, 12:33:13 PM
I don't think they should be taking kids to an economics lecture on Friday night, but let's be honest, any top 100 recruit who is only focused on finding the hottest girls and best campus parties is probably not going to Marquette and I don't think Buzz wants those kids anyway.
I am sure that the SEC schools are still bummed that they had to get rid of their, ahem, "hostesses", whose job it was to make sure the recruits had a "good time" while they were there.....
Quote from: Bocephys on October 15, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
Just because it's happening elsewhere doesn't mean we need to associate ourselves with it. If it costs us a few recruits, so be it.
Isn't there some middle ground between a drunken orgy with already paid for hookers and a program approved (and totally attended) by Mom? People around here complain that the basketball team isn't part of the student body but then go batspit every time a player acts like one. I'm not talking about sexual assault (allegations), but that Club 720 "incident" was a joke that even the biggest prude on campus should be embarrassed to be offended by. Very few young people (basketball players or otherwise) want to go to a monastery after high school.
Quote from: warriorchick on October 15, 2012, 12:40:41 PM
I am sure that the SEC is still bummed that they had to get rid of their, ahem, "hostesses", whose job it was to make sure the recruits had a "good time" while they were there.....
I think the part that needs to be in quotes is "get rid of". Let's see, we want this 18 yr. old guy to really enjoy his time here. He's too young too drink, giving him money or other valuables is a NCAA violation and easily traceable. If only we had 20,000 attractive young single women who get drunk every weekend...oh wait.
Quote from: Bocephys on October 15, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
Just because it's happening elsewhere doesn't mean we need to associate ourselves with it. If it costs us a few recruits, so be it.
You thought I was serious?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 15, 2012, 12:43:01 PM
Isn't there some middle ground between a drunken orgy with already paid for hookers and a program approved (and totally attended) by Mom? People around here complain that the basketball team isn't part of the student body but then go batspit every time a player acts like one. I'm not talking about sexual assault (allegations), but that Club 720 "incident" was a joke that even the biggest prude on campus should be embarrassed to be offended by. Very few young people (basketball players or otherwise) want to go to a monastery after high school.
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. However...if I found out Jabari Parker and Diamond Stone wanted to do a bunch of blow with hookers all weekend long and that would likely make them commit to MU, I think I could let it slide.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 15, 2012, 12:43:01 PM
Isn't there some middle ground between a drunken orgy with already paid for hookers and a program approved (and totally attended) by Mom? People around here complain that the basketball team isn't part of the student body but then go batspit every time a player acts like one. I'm not talking about sexual assault (allegations), but that Club 720 "incident" was a joke that even the biggest prude on campus should be embarrassed to be offended by. Very few young people (basketball players or otherwise) want to go to a monastery after high school.
Fair enough, and I think going to parties, etc., should be part of the campus visit experience .... within reason.
Remember, we're dealing here with mostly 16 and 17 year-olds (and maybe some younger) who a) aren't always known for their good judgment and b) whose parents have entrusted MU with their care. Sending said kid home Sunday morning with a hangover isn't going to leave a very good impression.
At the end of the day, it's better to party too little than too much.
A friend of mine at MU was part of the shadow program where HS kids would come up on Thursday night or Friday morning to visit the campus, go with him to class, etc and stay with him until Saturday. When he'd meet the "shadows," he would give them a quick rundown of the schedule and always end by saying, "We might be going to a party tonight too." Based on the kid's reaction he would know almost immediately if the kid wanted to go out or wanted to lay low and he'd base his plans on that. You don't want to scare the kid off, you don't want him to be bored and you don't want him to get his stomach pumped. I have a feeling that the basketball players are at least somewhat similar when recruits visit...although they obviously need to be much, much more careful than a bunch of engineers.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on October 15, 2012, 12:59:03 PM
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. However...if I found out Jabari Parker and Diamond Stone wanted to do a bunch of blow with hookers all weekend long and that would likely make them commit to MU, I think I could let it slide.
And that's why you are a moron.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on October 15, 2012, 12:59:03 PM
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. However...if I found out Jabari Parker and Diamond Stone wanted to do a bunch of blow with hookers all weekend long and that would likely make them commit to MU, I think I could let it slide.
Topher! Nice. Sadly I agree.
A workaholics fan is always good in my book. We'll have to meet up at the Penthouse penthouse.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 15, 2012, 12:56:35 PM
You thought I was serious?
Not you specifically, but there are plenty here who are as you can see. Just addressing the situation as a whole.
Quote from: frozena pizza on October 15, 2012, 12:50:41 PM
I think the part that needs to be in quotes is "get rid of". Let's see, we want this 18 yr. old guy to really enjoy his time here. He's too young too drink, giving him money or other valuables is a NCAA violation and easily traceable. If only we had 20,000 attractive young single women who get drunk every weekend...oh wait.
Good point. They just don't put them in matching outfits on the cover of the alumni newsletter any more.
Quote from: Bocephys on October 15, 2012, 02:17:34 PM
Not you specifically, but there are plenty here who are as you can see. Just addressing the situation as a whole.
If by plenty, you mean bieberhole 69, okay. And he's probably mostly kidding.
Quote from: frozena pizza on October 15, 2012, 12:33:13 PM
I'm all for showing kids a good time as long as its within the law and NCAA rules. I don't think they should be taking kids to an economics lecture on Friday night, but let's be honest, any top 100 recruit who is only focused on finding the hottest girls and best campus parties is probably not going to Marquette and I don't think Buzz wants those kids anyway.
So your saying if Diamond Stone told buzz that he wants to go to Marquette for the parties that Buzz would all the sudden say "You know what Diamond I think we can move on without you, but thanks for showing up" Dont kid yourself, Buzz is like all of us he wants the best players
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 03:48:07 PM
So your saying if Diamond Stone told buzz that he wants to go to Marquette for the parties that Buzz would all the sudden say "You know what Diamond I think we can move on without you, but thanks for showing up" Dont kid yourself, Buzz is like all of us he wants the best players
This has got to be one of the more absurd statements I have read. In fact, I am fairly certain he would tell him to move on.
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on October 15, 2012, 12:59:03 PM
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. However...if I found out Jabari Parker and Diamond Stone wanted to do a bunch of blow with hookers all weekend long and that would likely make them commit to MU, I think I could let it slide.
+10000000000000
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 15, 2012, 03:50:03 PM
This has got to be one of the more absurd statements I have read. In fact, I am fairly certain he would tell him to move on.
Than you must have a pretty naive view of College Athletics.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 03:53:05 PM
Than you must have a pretty naive view of College Athletics.
No...I don't. I actually have a fairly knowledgeable one. However, I am fairly certain that if a top prospect said to Buzz that the main reason he wants to come to MU is because of the "parties" that Buzz would not take that prospect. Many coaches wouldn't take him.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 03:48:07 PM
So your saying if Diamond Stone told buzz that he wants to go to Marquette for the parties that Buzz would all the sudden say "You know what Diamond I think we can move on without you, but thanks for showing up" Dont kid yourself, Buzz is like all of us he wants the best players
Alright. You are a moron too.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 15, 2012, 04:05:21 PM
Alright. You are a moron too.
Take it easy with the name calling bro
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on October 15, 2012, 04:12:38 PM
Take it easy with the name calling bro
Hey Bieberhole, if there is one thing that I found out, its that if someone disagrees with you on this board, they resort to name calling.
Quote from: BRMU23 on October 15, 2012, 04:15:46 PM
Hey Bieberhole, if there is one thing that I found out, its that if someone disagrees with you on this board, they resort to name calling.
Who'd have figured that the guy who made a snarky remark about Dominic James bagging groceries would be so easily offended?
Quote from: Pakuni on October 15, 2012, 04:22:23 PM
Who'd have figured that the guy who made a snarky remark about Dominic James bagging groceries would be so easily offended?
You sure showed me.
Quote from: BRMU23 on October 15, 2012, 04:15:46 PM
Hey Bieberhole, if there is one thing that I found out, its that if someone disagrees with you on this board, they resort to name calling.
I think it's safe to say if you would allow a recruit to do blow just so he would commit here, you are a moron.
That thinking is beyond stupid. Moron wasn't strong enough in my opinion.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 03:48:07 PM
So your saying if Diamond Stone told buzz that he wants to go to Marquette for the parties that Buzz would all the sudden say "You know what Diamond I think we can move on without you, but thanks for showing up" Dont kid yourself, Buzz is like all of us he wants the best players
The problem is:
If a kid is really coming to MU for the social life, he will never make it through boot camp.
Buzz is a demanding coach. MU is a demanding program. It's not for a lazy player who loves parties. Those guys won't make it.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 15, 2012, 04:39:28 PM
I think it's safe to say if you would allow a recruit to do blow just so he would commit here, you are a moron.
That thinking is beyond stupid. Moron wasn't strong enough in my opinion.
lighten up Francis
Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 15, 2012, 04:39:28 PM
I think it's safe to say if you would allow a recruit to do blow just so he would commit here, you are a moron.
That thinking is beyond stupid. Moron wasn't strong enough in my opinion.
I think you getting this upset about a hypothetical situation in which two high school kids doing drugs with hookers on a visit to Marquette is beyond stupid
I'm upset that hypothetical situation is was some people here want.
If a recruit picks us because we're the top party school with the best looking/ most willing women of all his D1 offers - well, he either has very few offers or is in for a big disappointment.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 15, 2012, 05:33:40 PM
If a recruit picks us because we're the top party school with the best looking/ most willing women of all his D1 offers - well, he either has very few offers or is in for a big disappointment.
Yeah, but the blow in Milwaukee is
awesome.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 15, 2012, 04:43:25 PM
The problem is:
If a kid is really coming to MU for the social life, he will never make it through boot camp.
Buzz is a demanding coach. MU is a demanding program. It's not for a lazy player who loves parties. Those guys won't make it.
Seriously I don't get why some here think there is no middle ground here. A player who wants to know that there is an active social scene on campus doesn't always equate to "a lazy player who loves parties."
I knew plenty of guys at MU (bball and track athletes included) who liked to go parties, didn't always drink but were there and had fun; then would be up at the crack of dawn in the library or gym getting there stuff done. Is every student that likes to go out a bad lazy student? I would have hated being your roommate.
And now something relevant to JuJuan Johnson:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/jajuan-johnson-visits-marquette-weighing-next-move/
Quote from: Pakuni on October 15, 2012, 06:34:02 PM
And now something relevant to JuJuan Johnson:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/jajuan-johnson-visits-marquette-weighing-next-move/
Seems like he prefers Bama over MU based on what he said, and that maybe Milwaukee's Finest were pressuring him a little too much to commit.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 15, 2012, 06:34:02 PM
And now something relevant to JuJuan Johnson:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/jajuan-johnson-visits-marquette-weighing-next-move/
Alabama has proximity and sounds like instant playing time. They'll be tough to beat. Goods news? Moms love Buzz.
This is a list of University of Alabama players that have ever played in the NBA.
Currently - none. This could be another factor
Ansley, Michael 1989-1991
Askins, Keith 1990-1998
Benoit, David 1991-2000
Caffey, Jason 1995-2002
Davidson, Jermareo 2007-2008
Douglas, Leon 1976-1982
Dunn, T.r. 1977-1990
Farmer, Jim 1987-1993
Hendrix, Richard 2008-2010
Horry, Robert 1992-2007
Johnson, Buck 1986-1992
King, Reggie 1979-1984
McCord, Keith 1980-1980
McDyess, Antonio 1995-2010
McKey, Derrick 1987-2001
Phillips, Eddie 1982-1982
Robinson, James 1993-2000
Rogers, Roy 1996-1999
Shaeffer, Carl 1949-1950
Sprewell, Latrell 1992-
Wallace, Gerald 2001-2010
Washington, Eric 1997-1998
Webb, Marcus 1992-1992
Whatley, Ennis 1983-1996
Williams, Maurice 2003-2010
Sprewell
Quote from: Slim on October 15, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
This is a list of University of Alabama players that have ever played in the NBA.
Currently - none.
Sprewell, Latrell 1992-
Sprewell is listed as a current player because while he doesn't have a team, he's still a free agent waiting for some team to offer him enough so he can feed his kids.
Quote from: Slim on October 15, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
This is a list of University of Alabama players that have ever played in the NBA.
Currently - none. This could be another factor
Uh yeah Gerald Wallace is still in the league playing at an all star level.
The recruitment of Johnson has been really strange. The boards never seemed to get too excited about him, some people even got mad b/c another poster suggested signs at madness and lots of tweets to him all weekend.
Now people are saying he hated madness and arguing over whether or not we should have taken him to a party.
Come on people be positive and let's hope we land another top 100 recruit!
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on October 15, 2012, 06:42:38 PM
Seems like he prefers Bama over MU based on what he said, and that maybe Milwaukee's Finest were pressuring him a little too much to commit.
I think you are reading WAAAYYY too much into a couple quotes.
Quote from: LA on October 15, 2012, 06:32:52 PM
Seriously I don't get why some here think there is no middle ground here. A player who wants to know that there is an active social scene on campus doesn't always equate to "a lazy player who loves parties."
I knew plenty of guys at MU (bball and track athletes included) who liked to go parties, didn't always drink but were there and had fun; then would be up at the crack of dawn in the library or gym getting there stuff done. Is every student that likes to go out a bad lazy student? I would have hated being your roommate.
You are right, but I was responding to this quote specifically:
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 03:48:07 PM
So your saying if Diamond Stone told buzz that he wants to go to Marquette for the parties that Buzz would all the sudden say "You know what Diamond I think we can move on without you, but thanks for showing up" Dont kid yourself, Buzz is like all of us he wants the best players
If a player tells a coach that his primary reason for coming to MU is the parties, that player probably isn't going to have the mental fortitude to make it in Buzz's program.
Put it another way: 95% of the kids currently enrolled at MU couldn't make it as a basketball player. It's a tough gig. Make no mistake. If you sign up, you better be prepared to be pushed to your limits and beyond every single day.
I think Jajuan is going about it the right way. He'll spend a few days weighing the pros and cons with his mom. It would seem that each school has something to offer that the other schools don't. In the end I hope he chooses MU but will certainly understand if he decides to stay closer to home, for example. I must imagine that his mom was thoroughly impressed by Buzz and can appreciate what Jajuan's commitment to MU could mean for his future. Let's be patient and allow a family their time. And thank you very much for considering our school and program.
Thank God, Fox screwed things up over there.
This thread is now mildly entertaining!
BTW, Jajuan knows if he wants playing time immediately. MU is a great scenario. With Otule, Jamil and Davante heading out the door, he can slip right in and be that dominating player inside and outside the post.
Based off these fresh new posts from current students and recent grads, maybe I can direct my next donation to the Admissions office.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on October 15, 2012, 06:42:38 PM
Seems like he prefers Bama over MU based on what he said, and that maybe Milwaukee's Finest were pressuring him a little too much to commit.
Where did you get that? He was pretty non-committal to all of them and lists the general pros. He says about MU, "it was good" vs "it was cool" for Bama. The only pro he lists of Bama is that it is close to home. With Miami, it was playing time. To me, he is saying MU is winning and teammates.
I think it is safe to say that he didn't call Grant and committ last Sunday. Not saying that he won't but I think that he is taking his time. We will see this week.
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 15, 2012, 07:42:23 PM
If a player tells a coach that his primary reason for coming to MU is the parties, that player probably isn't going to have the mental fortitude to make it in Buzz's program.
Do you honestly think that any recruit ever has told the HC "I'm comin' here for the awesome parties"? Not at UNLV, not at UCLA and certainly not (of all places) at Marquette.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 15, 2012, 07:56:52 PMBTW, Jajuan knows if he wants playing time immediately. MU is a great scenario. With Otule, Jamil and Davante heading out the door, he can slip right in and be that dominating player inside and outside the post.
Are you thinking of Embiid? Johnson is a 6'5" scoring wing, don't see him taking many of the minutes Gardner or Otule leave behind.
Here is an update on Johnson.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/jajuan-johnson-visits-marquette-weighing-next-move/
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on October 15, 2012, 08:15:35 PM
Here is an update on Johnson.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/jajuan-johnson-visits-marquette-weighing-next-move/
Do me a favor, if JJ doesn't commit, don't bash the kid on Twitter.
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on October 15, 2012, 08:15:35 PM
Here is an update on Johnson.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/jajuan-johnson-visits-marquette-weighing-next-move/
Thanks. Did you not notice it was posted about ten posts above yours?
Guys he is not coming here.
Most commits like Kendrick Nunn commit right after the visit. Same thing in buying a car, they give you the hard at the dealership and they wont accept "I am going home to think it over" cause the minute you leave the dealership your not coming back
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 15, 2012, 08:04:14 PM
Do you honestly think that any recruit ever has told the HC "I'm comin' here for the awesome parties"? Not at UNLV, not at UCLA and certainly not (of all places) at Marquette.
No, I do not think a recruit has ever said that.
I was responding (and quoted) this specific post that contains the hypothetical:
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 03:48:07 PM
So your saying if Diamond Stone told buzz that he wants to go to Marquette for the parties that Buzz would all the sudden say "You know what Diamond I think we can move on without you, but thanks for showing up" Dont kid yourself, Buzz is like all of us he wants the best players
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
Guys he is not coming here.
Most commits like Kendrick Nunn commit right after the visit. Same thing in buying a car, they give you the hard at the dealership and they wont accept "I am going home to think it over" cause the minute you leave the dealership your not coming back
I totally agree. Chances of him coming here is very slim.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
Guys he is not coming here.
Most commits like Kendrick Nunn commit right after the visit. Same thing in buying a car, they give you the hard at the dealership and they wont accept "I am going home to think it over" cause the minute you leave the dealership your not coming back
So since he has taken all of his visits and remains uncommitted anywhere, he is not playing basketball in college? Gotcha.
Triple J wants an uptempo game which features strong guard play. MU #16 and Bama #298 in tempo, with the Tide down in Bucky's sleep walking territory. MU is a guard's school, and will play BE games in his hometown. I remember being at the Old Spice Classic in Orlando a couple of years ago, and Bama had 20 odd hoops fans in the stands. If the kid wants the best fit for his game, the choice has been made.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
Guys he is not coming here.
Most commits like Kendrick Nunn commit right after the visit. Same thing in buying a car, they give you the hard at the dealership and they wont accept "I am going home to think it over" cause the minute you leave the dealership your not coming back
This is illogical, because Johnson has now visited all three final schools and will end up committing to one of them. It just means he has two or three choices he likes and is going to do his due diligence. Also, what we do not know is whether he is plan B. By that I mean, maybe Buzz will give him the scholarship only if Embiid decides to go elsewhere. There were posts that Embiid really liked Kansas, but he did not commit there and now Kansas just got a commitment from a highly ranked guard. Was Embiid plan B for Kansas? I think Johnson will decide this week. The Alabama board thinks it is between them and MU, which probably means he will go to Miami.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
Guys he is not coming here.
Most commits like Kendrick Nunn commit right after the visit. Same thing in buying a car, they give you the hard at the dealership and they wont accept "I am going home to think it over" cause the minute you leave the dealership your not coming back
So, by your logic he's not going to go to Miami or Alabama, either. Geez, I guess he'll have to start his recruitment all over.
Damn it wadesworld beat me to the punch!
When Duane Wilson committed in March and said he made the decision to attend MU in Janaury, two months earlier. So, yes sometimes you get a recruit after he gets on the plane to go home.
JJJ has no more visits, correct? If so, being the last is still the best position.
What struck me about the Zags article was that Johnson said they told him what position he would play, which seems contrary to Buzz's belief that players do not have postions.
Quote from: bilsu on October 16, 2012, 08:54:01 AM
What struck me about the Zags article was that Johnson said they told him what position he would play, which seems contrary to Buzz's belief that players do not have postions.
Yeah, Buzz told him he'd be a "Switchable".
Quote from: bilsu on October 16, 2012, 08:54:01 AM
What struck me about the Zags article was that Johnson said they told him what position he would play, which seems contrary to Buzz's belief that players do not have postions.
How I read that was that Milwaukee's Best told him what position he'd play. Seems DW, Burton, and McKay make up the effective 1, 3, 4, so it may be the incoming players told him he'd be the 2.
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 16, 2012, 10:24:14 AM
How I read that was that Milwaukee's Best told him what position he'd play. Seems DW, Burton, and McKay make up the effective 1, 3, 4, so it may be the incoming players told him he'd be the 2.
Dawson will also be playing the 1 or 2. I believe Johnson would be above him in the depth chart, but would he get much playing time as a freshman? He would have Blue, Mayo, Thomas, and Ferguson ahead of him at SG position. Throw in Dawson and Wilson, thats 7 guys battling for time at SG. If he wants to win MU is the place to be, but if he is looking for significant playing time his freshman year its probably not going to happen here.
I won't blame Johnson either way. At Miami, he has the chance to be a star but I'm not sure how good the teams will be. At Alabama, he can be an instant contributor and play on likely pretty good teams, but they will always be overshadowed by football and don't exactly play up-tempo. At Marquette, he will probably win more than the others, but will have to wait his turn.
I think his best path to the NBA is here, as it is pretty clear that NBA teams are looking for guys with the Marquette work ethic. I have little doubt that WesMat's success played heavily in us having 2 first round picks and 4 guys drafted in the past 3 years. Honestly, MU guys right now are probably a bit overvalued by the league because of that. But if I'm a kid dreaming of the NBA, that's a good thing, not a bad one.
My recollection of Grant at VCU is that his Maynor / Sanders teams always had decent pace. Is his being slow out of necessity at Bama?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 16, 2012, 01:13:00 PM
My recollection of Grant at VCU is that his Maynor / Sanders teams always had decent pace. Is his being slow out of necessity at Bama?
No, they played pretty slow at VCU too. Per Pomeroy, here are the average number of possessions for his teams and where that ranked nationally:
2007 VCU: 66.1 (191)
2008 VCU: 65.1 (238)
2009 VCU: 66.8 (149)
2010 Bama: 65.6 (247)
2011 Bama: 64.9 (257)
2012 Bama: 63.1 (298)
That last year at VCU may have influenced him to play slower. In that season, his teams were 2-5 when the winning team scored 80+ points. The two wins were to a bad Citadel and miserable UNC-Wilmington, but they also had 3 sub-200 kenpom losses that year and in all three games they allowed over 80. So when the tempo turned up, his teams had a tendency to lose. Makes sense that he slowed it down even more at 'Bama, and has slowed it every year since that last year at VCU.
The problem with JaJuan is that he sees Blue, Mayo, Wilson, even Jake Thomas, and Burton and says to himself, I might be sitting as a freshman, they want PT Time. He should be
thinking I want to play with a good program and I am better than those guys. Sometimes they believe that, and sometimes they do not. Is he afraid of a little competition. Alabama
is a football school, and Miami is as well. They are barely seen on TV, do you want to play at the Garden of Mississippi State? Auburn?
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 15, 2012, 08:39:26 PM
Guys he is not coming here.
Most commits like Kendrick Nunn commit right after the visit. Same thing in buying a car, they give you the hard at the dealership and they wont accept "I am going home to think it over" cause the minute you leave the dealership your not coming back
Totally agree. Once a recruit leaves your campus, it's highly unlikely that he's coming back.
Quote from: Groin_pull on October 16, 2012, 04:34:43 PM
Totally agree. Once a recruit leaves your campus, it's highly unlikely that he's coming back.
Which means Johnson will not be attending any of this three finalists, I guess.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 16, 2012, 04:38:42 PM
Which means Johnson will not be attending any of this three finalists, I guess.
Does MU really need him? I think Joel Emblid is really a future need, a 6' 5" player can be recruited every year.
Quote from: BCHoopster on October 16, 2012, 04:41:39 PM
Does MU really need him? I think Joel Emblid is really a future need, a 6' 5" player can be recruited every year.
It's not like MU gets to choose.
Pretty big risk passing on a consensus top 75 player because you hope another kid chooses Marquette over the likes of Kansas, Florida, Louisville and UCLA.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 16, 2012, 04:53:59 PM
It's not like MU gets to choose.
Pretty big risk passing on a consensus top 75 player because you hope another kid chooses Marquette over the likes of Kansas, Florida, Louisville and UCLA.
No, I get that, for MU, you take any player of that caliber. He might not play much his first year anyway.
Quote from: BCHoopster on October 16, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
The problem with JaJuan is that he sees Blue, Mayo, Wilson, even Jake Thomas, and Burton and says to himself, I might be sitting as a freshman, they want PT Time. He should be
thinking I want to play with a good program and I am better than those guys. Sometimes they believe that, and sometimes they do not. Is he afraid of a little competition. Alabama
is a football school, and Miami is as well. They are barely seen on TV, do you want to play at the Garden of Mississippi State? Auburn?
Seriously?!?! The problem with JaJuan? Did you talk to him? How do you know that he doesn't think that? You don't. You are basing on the fact he may or may not want to come to MU. If you notice for Alabama he called out it was close to home and not that he would get immediate playing time. Just because the kid didn't commit on Sat doesn't mean it was because he felt he should get immediate playing time. Maybe he didn't mesh with his future teammates or Buzz. Hell we don't even know if he is not going to commit. No one has put together a reason why he isn't going to commit other than he didn't but as you see elsewhere plenty of players don't committ on their visit. I would bet a good number don't, especially with the number of press conferences which are out there now.
To your other point, Buzz has been targeting a SG so I assume he knows something about what he needs so why not sign a player that you will fits in to that vision. I didn't hear Buzz pull the offer so I have to assume he still wants him.
Most players commit after a visit. Just like most people by a car at their visit to the dealership, and most people who buy a time share do it at that the time share presentation. It is a hard sell, and hard sells are meant to work on emotion and the fact that you feel an obligation to buy (Free Test drive, the Free Vacation in a timeshare, all the free crap you get on an official). Once you leave the environment it is 100 times easier to say no, and way harder to say yes cause you dont feel that pressure.
The problem we have at MU is that the school has gotten too tame, and we dont have enough Jersey Chasers with daddy problems and broken homes that are willing to take one for the team like they do at SEC and Big 10 schools
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 07:51:13 PM
Most players commit after a visit. Just like most people by a car at their visit to the dealership, and most people who buy a time share do it at that the time share presentation. It is a hard sell, and hard sells are meant to work on emotion and the fact that you feel an obligation to buy (Free Test drive, the Free Vacation in a timeshare, all the free crap you get on an official). Once you leave the environment it is 100 times easier to say no, and way harder to say yes cause you dont feel that pressure.
The problem we have at MU is that the school has gotten too tame, and we dont have enough Jersey Chasers with daddy problems and broken homes that are willing to take one for the team like they do at SEC and Big 10 schools
Wow
Havent you seen "He Got Game" Thats what they do at other schools. Why dont we
Mostly 'cause the broads here are, shall we say, house brands.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 07:51:13 PM
The problem we have at MU is that the school has gotten too tame, and we dont have enough Jersey Chasers with daddy problems and broken homes that are willing to take one for the team like they do at SEC and Big 10 schools
Do me a favor and go root for another team OK? I have no desire to be associated with you as a fan of Marquette.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on October 16, 2012, 08:34:03 PM
Do me a favor and go root for another team OK? I have no desire to be associated with you as a fan of Marquette.
+Infinity.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 08:04:23 PM
Havent you seen "He Got Game" Thats what they do at other schools. Why dont we
Ricky Roe's dad got a new tractor in Blue Chips. Maybe Buzz should have offered Kendrick Nunn a Deere.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 08:04:23 PM
Havent you seen "He Got Game" Thats what they do at other schools. Why dont we
You know that's a fictitious film, not a documentary, right?
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 16, 2012, 08:54:16 PM
You know that's a fictitious film, not a documentary, right?
But it's a Spike Lee Joint...
Quote from: Guns n Ammo on October 16, 2012, 08:54:16 PM
You know that's a fictitious film, not a documentary, right?
But it was based on a true story. Wasnt it based on Ray Alllens Recruitment.
Quote from: Pakuni on October 16, 2012, 08:53:38 PM
Ricky Roe's dad got a new tractor in Blue Chips. Maybe Buzz should have offered Kendrick Nunn a Deere.
No a Case Tractor would be better.
But yea, why arent we offering Cars and stuff like the other coaches do. Why arent we offering their dads assistant coaching jobs, and their moms office jobs in the school of Education or something?
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:21:35 PM
But it was based on a true story. Wasnt it based on Ray Alllens Recruitment.
No... Ray Allen *starred* in it.
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on October 16, 2012, 09:23:43 PM
No... Ray Allen *starred* in it.
No it was Jesus Shuttlesworth who was based off of Ray Allen
If Marquette is not willing to cheat like the big boys than the best we can ever do is go to the Elite 8.
Steve Spurrier said it best "If you aint cheating you aint trying"
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:21:35 PM
But it was based on a true story. Wasnt it based on Ray Alllens Recruitment.
Wrong.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:25:07 PM
No it was Jesus Shuttlesworth who was based off of Ray Allen
Wrong.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
If Marquette is not willing to cheat like the big boys than the best we can ever do is go to the Elite 8.
Steve Spurrier said it best "If you aint cheating you aint trying"
Absolutely wrong.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
If Marquette is not willing to cheat like the big boys than the best we can ever do is go to the Elite 8.
Steve Spurrier said it best "If you aint cheating you aint trying"
You should really get off the crack pipe. Oh, and Steve Spurrier never said that.
But I bet at the other schools there is a lineup of chicks that the recruit gets to pick out just like in "he got game"
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
But I bet at the other schools there is a lineup of chicks that the recruit gets to pick out just like in "he got game"
Pimping its generally frowned upon in most athletic departments.
Except for Louisville, where the head coach pimps assistant coaches wives.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:25:07 PM
No it was Jesus Shuttlesworth who was based off of Ray Allen
Nope. Not. Even. Close.
Seriously, use google and read up.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
But I bet at the other schools there is a lineup of chicks that the recruit gets to pick out just like in "he got game"
Buzz used to be able to do that, then Larry came on board and ruined it.
/Ducks.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
If Marquette is not willing to cheat like the big boys than the best we can ever do is go to the Elite 8.
Steve Spurrier said it best "If you aint cheating you aint trying"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
If Marquette is not willing to cheat like the big boys than the best we can ever do is go to the Elite 8.
Steve Spurrier said it best "If you aint cheating you aint trying"
Right...Cause im pretty sure Butler who went back to back NCAA finals cheated. Oh also that VCU team who went to the final 4 yea they cheated too. That Billy Madison video is all to accurate.
smh
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
But I bet at the other schools there is a lineup of chicks that the recruit gets to pick out just like in "he got game"
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/182apz87rfmrpjpg/original.jpg)
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
If Marquette is not willing to cheat like the big boys than the best we can ever do is go to the Elite 8.
Did we cheat in 2003?
You are giving theULTIMATEwarrior a run for most embarassing Marquette fan.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 07:51:13 PM
The problem we have at MU is that the school has gotten too tame, and we dont have enough Jersey Chasers with daddy problems and broken homes that are willing to take one for the team like they do at SEC and Big 10 schools
I trust that was a tongue in cheek comment although I have yet to see a retraction. As a proud parent of a very successful and self motivated MU junior nursing student, I find your comment deeply troubling and very offensive. I'd rather compete at the DIII level than send my kid to a school like that.
Quote from: jsglow on October 17, 2012, 09:26:47 AM
I trust that was a tongue in cheek comment although I have yet to see a retraction. As a proud parent of a very successful and self motivated MU junior nursing student, I find your comment deeply troubling and very offensive. I'd rather compete at the DIII level than send my kid to a school like that.
If only you'd been a worse parent we could have landed JJJ already. Shame on you jsglow.
This is turning into the comment section of a jsonline article with some of these comments.
Embarrassed.
This board is a cesspool.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 07:51:13 PM
Just like most people by a car at their visit to the dealership
Where else are you gonna buy a new car? ?-(
I don't know about you but I never buy a car at the 1st dealership I visit. I don't even buy a car with the 1st contract I sign - I take it to the next dealer to get a better deal, not saying recruits do THAT but I'd shop the field and then think it over.
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 07:51:13 PM
Most players commit after a visit. Just like most people by a car at their visit to the dealership, and most people who buy a time share do it at that the time share presentation. It is a hard sell, and hard sells are meant to work on emotion and the fact that you feel an obligation to buy (Free Test drive, the Free Vacation in a timeshare, all the free crap you get on an official). Once you leave the environment it is 100 times easier to say no, and way harder to say yes cause you dont feel that pressure.
The problem we have at MU is that the school has gotten too tame, and we dont have enough Jersey Chasers with daddy problems and broken homes that are willing to take one for the team like they do at SEC and Big 10 schools
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 08:04:23 PM
Havent you seen "He Got Game" Thats what they do at other schools. Why dont we
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
But I bet at the other schools there is a lineup of chicks that the recruit gets to pick out just like in "he got game"
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 16, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
If Marquette is not willing to cheat like the big boys than the best we can ever do is go to the Elite 8.
Steve Spurrier said it best "If you aint cheating you aint trying"
You are clearly chasing controversy. Is that a mommy problem, in your case?
Your posts make trolls seem strangely ineffective.
So getting back on topic... How about Johnson, others on the board said he may make a decision today. Any word?
Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on October 17, 2012, 10:53:46 AM
So getting back on topic... How about Johnson, others on the board said he may make a decision today. Any word?
The article implied end of week, if he decides not to go to Uconn for a visit.
It was supposed to be today. He is not coming
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on October 17, 2012, 12:11:20 PM
It was supposed to be today. He is not coming
Per one random guy. Johnson himself hasn't set a date yet.