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Title: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 15, 2012, 05:57:37 PM
Looks like MU was granted permission to talk to Dorian Finney-Smith.

Over 20 schools contacted him but he has cut it down to 7.

Marquette, Florida, Iowa St, Texas, Georgetown, Alabama, and Villanova.

Will make decision by next month

Source: Larry Rubama from 757teamz.com
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 15, 2012, 06:00:21 PM
Looks like MU was granted permission to talk to Dorian Finney-Smith.

Over 20 schools contacted him but he has cut it down to 7.

Marquette, Florida, Iowa St, Texas, Georgetown, Alabama, and Villanova.

Will make decision by next month

Source: Larry Rubama from 757teamz.com

Iowa State, really?  I guess building a reputation as transfer U. gets you a place at the table.

Hopefully, having one player from Virginia here, and another on the way helps us out.

3 out of 7 are big East schools.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on May 15, 2012, 06:06:34 PM
Iowa State, really?  I guess building a reputation as transfer U. gets you a place at the table.

Hopefully, having one player from Virginia here, and another on the way helps us out.

3 out of 7 are big East schools.

He is The Mayor!
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 15, 2012, 06:13:10 PM
He is The Mayor!

Yeah, of Ames.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: esotericmindguy on May 15, 2012, 06:17:31 PM
He was in a NBA front office, granted it was the t'wolves but still. I'm sure that carries some weight. Must be a great recruiter.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on May 15, 2012, 06:17:43 PM
Yeah, of Ames.

Are you saying that being "The Mayor" of the 8th biggest city in Iowa does not have any influence with transfers?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: LAZER on May 15, 2012, 06:51:15 PM
Iowa State, really?  I guess building a reputation as transfer U. gets you a place at the table.

Hopefully, having one player from Virginia here, and another on the way helps us out.

3 out of 7 are big East schools.

Landing one more transfer might get MU the title transfer U. as well
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: tower912 on May 15, 2012, 08:06:52 PM
What transfers in?   Lockett?    That's one.    The rest are JUCO's.    Buzz likes getting players who are hungry and who have something to prove and know they have to work. 
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: strotty on May 15, 2012, 08:24:50 PM
What transfers in?   Lockett?    That's one.    The rest are JUCO's.    Buzz likes getting players who are hungry and who have something to prove and know they have to work. 

Jamil and Jake Thomas.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on May 15, 2012, 09:03:19 PM
Tj taylor is basically a transfer too. He just spent his year playing instead of sitting. Hey and if it works for ISU they might as well embrace it. Quick way to reload.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: tower912 on May 16, 2012, 05:26:56 AM
I realized after I had left the computer for the evening that I had been experiencing vapor lock when I posted.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 17, 2012, 08:46:21 PM
He will cut it down to 3 teams by the weekend according to his mother. MU is among the final 5.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Jay Bee on May 17, 2012, 09:39:21 PM
He will cut it down to 3 teams by the weekend according to his mother. MU is among the final 5.

Will she be displaying 8x11 signs to illustrate who the final 3 are?

DFS can be a big, big time player
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: 🏀 on May 17, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Will she be displaying 8x11 signs to illustrate who the final 3 are?

DFS can be a big, big time player
DORIAN
TO
MARQUETTE
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 19, 2012, 05:56:29 PM
According the Gainsville Sun in a story dated on Thursday, Dorian Finney-Smith is taking the weekend to decide between Florida and Old Dominion.  Strange given that Old Dominion wasn't in Finney-Smith's final seven. Evidently, Dorian and his mother are not on the same page or the Gainsville Sun has "questionable" sources.

Here's the link to the Gainsville Sun's story.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120517/ARTICLES/120519630/1109/sports?Title=UF-men-8217-s-basketball-awaits-decisions (http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120517/ARTICLES/120519630/1109/sports?Title=UF-men-8217-s-basketball-awaits-decisions)

In the same article, the Gainsville Sun claimed that South Carolina center Damontre Harris planned to announce between Florida and Kansas on Friday which apparently didn't happen.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on May 19, 2012, 05:59:37 PM
I guess that jump to Conf USA is already paying dividends...
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 19, 2012, 06:02:04 PM
I guess that jump to Conf USA is already paying dividends...

Don't even think it, they aren't going to take MU back.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on May 19, 2012, 06:09:40 PM
Don't even think it, they aren't going to take MU back.

What if we promise to bring Georgetown and Villanova with???
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: bilsu on May 20, 2012, 08:08:55 PM
According the Gainsville Sun in a story dated on Thursday, Dorian Finney-Smith is taking the weekend to decide between Florida and Old Dominion.  Strange given that Old Dominion wasn't in Finney-Smith's final seven. Evidently, Dorian and his mother are not on the same page or the Gainsville Sun has "questionable" sources.

Here's the link to the Gainsville Sun's story.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120517/ARTICLES/120519630/1109/sports?Title=UF-men-8217-s-basketball-awaits-decisions (http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120517/ARTICLES/120519630/1109/sports?Title=UF-men-8217-s-basketball-awaits-decisions)

In the same article, the Gainsville Sun claimed that South Carolina center Damontre Harris planned to announce between Florida and Kansas on Friday which apparently didn't happen.
How many open scholarships does Florida have?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 20, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
How many open scholarships does Florida have?

1 open one.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Tigidal on May 21, 2012, 01:50:12 PM
On his final 5... http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/21/dorian-finney-smith-cuts-list-to-five/

Dorian Finney-Smith Cuts List to Five
BY ADAM ZAGORIA ON MAY 21, 2012, 2:44PM

Virginia Tech transfer Dorian Finney-Smith has trimmed his list to five schools.

“Florida, Louisville, Texas, Marquette and Ohio State,” his mother, Desiree Finney told SNY.tv Monday afternoon.

No visits are currently set but after the current dead period ends, Finney-Smith plans to begin taking visits.

“What I’m going to to now is I’m going to get with the coaches and see how we’re going to do that,” she said. “We’re going to start some visits at the end of the month.”

An ACC all-freshman team member in 2012, Finney-Smith averaged 6.3 points and 7.0 rebounds as a freshman. He started 30 of 33 games.

The 6-foot-8 small forward from Portsmouth, Va., opted to transfer after coach Seth Greenberg was fired.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: NersEllenson on May 21, 2012, 02:24:29 PM
On his final 5... http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/21/dorian-finney-smith-cuts-list-to-five/

Dorian Finney-Smith Cuts List to Five
BY ADAM ZAGORIA ON MAY 21, 2012, 2:44PM

Virginia Tech transfer Dorian Finney-Smith has trimmed his list to five schools.

“Florida, Louisville, Texas, Marquette and Ohio State,” his mother, Desiree Finney told SNY.tv Monday afternoon.

No visits are currently set but after the current dead period ends, Finney-Smith plans to begin taking visits.

“What I’m going to to now is I’m going to get with the coaches and see how we’re going to do that,” she said. “We’re going to start some visits at the end of the month.”

An ACC all-freshman team member in 2012, Finney-Smith averaged 6.3 points and 7.0 rebounds as a freshman. He started 30 of 33 games.

The 6-foot-8 small forward from Portsmouth, Va., opted to transfer after coach Seth Greenberg was fired.

Nice to see MU's name right along side some big time schools...as we are closing in on being a big time basketball school again...would love to land DFS..
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: bilsu on May 21, 2012, 02:39:38 PM
Does Louisville have any open scholarships?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 21, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
Nice to see MU's name right along side some big time schools...as we are closing in on being a big time basketball school again...would love to land DFS..

We're a longshot, but, except for maybe a local kid (Novak?), we haven't even been mentioned in this kind of "final 5" since Al.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on May 21, 2012, 05:02:11 PM
We're a longshot, but, except for maybe a local kid (Novak?), we haven't even been mentioned in this kind of "final 5" since Al.

That is simply not true. http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/high-school/2010/10/quincy-miller-diary-no-2/
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on May 21, 2012, 05:09:26 PM
That is simply not true. http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/high-school/2010/10/quincy-miller-diary-no-2/


Iman Schumpert is another...and does Kris Dunn count?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: 77ncaachamps on May 21, 2012, 05:52:31 PM
Does Davante know him? Did they play each other?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: brewcity77 on May 21, 2012, 06:14:01 PM
We're a longshot, but, except for maybe a local kid (Novak?), we haven't even been mentioned in this kind of "final 5" since Al.

What about Trotter and Rivers? Last I checked, those weren't Al's recruits, and they didn't just have us in their final 5, they picked Marquette. Certainly bigger gets than Novak was.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 21, 2012, 06:19:53 PM

Iman Schumpert is another...and does Kris Dunn count?

Schumpert came down to Geogia Tech and us. Georgia Tech is not in the same league as Texas, Louisvlle, Florida and Ohio St. Didn't Dunn end up at Providence?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 21, 2012, 06:22:15 PM
That is simply not true. http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/high-school/2010/10/quincy-miller-diary-no-2/

Duke and Louisvlle are bluebloods. Oklahoma and Baylor (where he ended up) are a notch down.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on May 21, 2012, 06:32:51 PM
Schumpert came down to Geogia Tech and us. Georgia Tech is not in the same league as Texas, Louisvlle, Florida and Ohio St. Didn't Dunn end up at Providence?


Schumpert also looked at North Carolina.  Dunn was UConn.

However, I misunderstood the statement so I brought up bad examples.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on May 21, 2012, 06:57:19 PM
Duke and Louisvlle are bluebloods. Oklahoma and Baylor (where he ended up) are a notch down.

I obviously agree with you, but my point was more that we have been in on high level recruits in the recent past and have just struck out on them.

And I'm too young to know, but did Al even recruit the same type of kids that UNC, UCLA, and Indiana were going after back then? I wonder if he ever really did beat out those schools in recruiting.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: TedBaxter on May 21, 2012, 07:55:21 PM
For Dean Meminger, Earl Tatum, Butch Lee, Bernard Toone and maybe Bo Ellis he had to beat out the biggies.  Older posters could tell us about the recruiting of George Thompson, Jim Chones and Larry McNiell and who they chose MU over.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on May 21, 2012, 08:11:23 PM
What about Trotter and Rivers? Last I checked, those weren't Al's recruits, and they didn't just have us in their final 5, they picked Marquette. Certainly bigger gets than Novak was.

Doc and Kerry were McD's All American.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 21, 2012, 08:45:38 PM
Pretty sure we took out Michigan State for Chones. At least that was the windbreaker he was wearing during freshman week in 1969.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 21, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
We're a longshot, but, except for maybe a local kid (Novak?), we haven't even been mentioned in this kind of "final 5" since Al.

Hello, Vander Blue.

Final five; UCLA, Arizonia, Florida, Tennessee, MU.

Wasn't MU in the final five on Luol Dieng?  Besides Duke, there must have been some other biggies in there.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 21, 2012, 09:12:33 PM
Hello, Vander Blue.

Final five; UCLA, Arizonia, Florida, Tennessee, MU.

Wasn't MU in the final five on Luol Dieng?  Besides Duke, there must have been some other biggies in there.

UW didn't make his final 5?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 21, 2012, 09:14:15 PM
On his final 5... http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/21/dorian-finney-smith-cuts-list-to-five/

Dorian Finney-Smith Cuts List to Five
BY ADAM ZAGORIA ON MAY 21, 2012, 2:44PM

Virginia Tech transfer Dorian Finney-Smith has trimmed his list to five schools.

“Florida, Louisville, Texas, Marquette and Ohio State,” his mother, Desiree Finney told SNY.tv Monday afternoon.

No visits are currently set but after the current dead period ends, Finney-Smith plans to begin taking visits.

“What I’m going to to now is I’m going to get with the coaches and see how we’re going to do that,” she said. “We’re going to start some visits at the end of the month.”

An ACC all-freshman team member in 2012, Finney-Smith averaged 6.3 points and 7.0 rebounds as a freshman. He started 30 of 33 games.

The 6-foot-8 small forward from Portsmouth, Va., opted to transfer after coach Seth Greenberg was fired.

It's nice to be in the final five, particularly since it wasn't necessary to be in the final seven to make the final five.  It looks like ultimatewarrior's news that Dorian was going to pare the list to three came to pass, then two more schools (Ohio State and Louisville) popped up.  I guess Louisville isn't certain that Rodney Hood is coming their way.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 21, 2012, 09:15:25 PM
What about Trotter and Rivers? Last I checked, those weren't Al's recruits, and they didn't just have us in their final 5, they picked Marquette. Certainly bigger gets than Novak was.

I don't remember the finalists for Trotter, but with Doc Rivers we beat out DePaul.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 21, 2012, 11:58:10 PM
It's nice to be in the final five, particularly since it wasn't necessary to be in the final seven to make the final five.  It looks like ultimatewarrior's news that Dorian was going to pare the list to three came to pass, then two more schools (Ohio State and Louisville) popped up.  I guess Louisville isn't certain that Rodney Hood is coming their way.
His mother did say 3 but then later said 5. Anyone care to look into how many scholarships these teams have available? I know Florida had one and would prefer to have Damontre Harris as he is a better fit.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: noblewarrior on May 22, 2012, 06:58:59 AM
Doesn't look like Harris has much interest in MU anymore according to this link  VVV

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/58819/damontre-harris-down-to-florida-kansas

It's an old article so things may have changed.  He would be an excellent defensive fit though his high school coach appears to be steering him away.

Any of these transfers we're in on or a guy like Wainwright would be fantastic gets... that's if they can meet MU's new and improved academic standards that is.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: noblewarrior on May 22, 2012, 07:19:38 AM
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruitingon-the-trail/post?id=1655&_slug_=pg-stevie-clark-might-graduate-early&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fblog%2fncbrecruitingon-the-trail%2fpost%3fid%3d1655%26_slug_%3dpg-stevie-clark-might-graduate-early

^^^

Look who may be reclassifying for 2012... scoring PG anyone?...  I know MU has been in on Clark since he was a freshman or so and if D Wilson is more of a natural combo an additional ball handler my be a good fit... then look for a front court player for the remaining 2013 scolly (if there is one remaining).   
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: brewcity77 on May 22, 2012, 08:00:31 AM
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruitingon-the-trail/post?id=1655&_slug_=pg-stevie-clark-might-graduate-early&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fblog%2fncbrecruitingon-the-trail%2fpost%3fid%3d1655%26_slug_%3dpg-stevie-clark-might-graduate-early

^^^

Look who may be reclassifying for 2012... scoring PG anyone?...  I know MU has been in on Clark since he was a freshman or so and if D Wilson is more of a natural combo an additional ball handler my be a good fit... then look for a front court player for the remaining 2013 scolly (if there is one remaining).   

Clark would be a great add, especially this late in the recruiting game. Not sure how strong our interest is, but I remember his mom tweeting at some MU assistants (either Aki or Benford) that they should tell Buzz to come check her son out when Clark was dropping monster statlines. As I recall, very smart kid and a religious family, Marquette seems like a perfect fit, and his mom seems to think so too.

I don't know how ready he'd be for Big East basketball, with his small frame, but I'd love to see some competition behind Junior at the 1, and it'd also put pressure on Duane Wilson next year, which I think is a great way to ensure that these guys are giving everything they have. Would also love the ability to have a legitimate 2-PG attack, it worked very well with Cooby and Acker. Still think another big is our most pressing need, but I certainly wouldn't complain if Stevie Clark fell into our lap.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 22, 2012, 08:08:38 AM
Clark would be a great add, especially this late in the recruiting game. Not sure how strong our interest is, but I remember his mom tweeting at some MU assistants (either Aki or Benford) that they should tell Buzz to come check her son out when Clark was dropping monster statlines. As I recall, very smart kid and a religious family, Marquette seems like a perfect fit, and his mom seems to think so too.

I don't know how ready he'd be for Big East basketball, with his small frame, but I'd love to see some competition behind Junior at the 1, and it'd also put pressure on Duane Wilson next year, which I think is a great way to ensure that these guys are giving everything they have. Would also love the ability to have a legitimate 2-PG attack, it worked very well with Cooby and Acker. Still think another big is our most pressing need, but I certainly wouldn't complain if Stevie Clark fell into our lap.

A quick kid who can shoot and will probably grow?  yes please.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: mileskishnish72 on May 22, 2012, 02:32:05 PM
AND he has a 4.0? Yikes!
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: MuMark on May 22, 2012, 04:59:31 PM
I assume his family has interest in MU. After I started following Stevie on twitter his mom started following me.

Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 22, 2012, 06:09:24 PM
I would assume Clark goes to either Louisville or UCONN would love to have him aboard though.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: brewcity77 on May 22, 2012, 07:43:01 PM
I would assume Clark goes to either Louisville or UCONN would love to have him aboard though.

UConn would take anyone with a pulse that actually played HS ball. If Oklahoma has room, that'll likely be his first choice. If they don't have room, who knows where he ends up? Pretty sure Louisville would have to run someone else off to take him (though it's been done there before). From what I've read of Clark, my guess is he'll go somewhere that doesn't have to force an opening. I could be wrong, but I really don't think forcing his way in would jive with the way he and his mother have conducted themselves. They seem classier and possessed of more integrity than that.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on May 22, 2012, 07:49:54 PM
Don't we have a pg coming in 2013 with another on the roster?  Not exactly sure where clark would fit.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: brewcity77 on May 22, 2012, 08:53:30 PM
Don't we have a pg coming in 2013 with another on the roster?  Not exactly sure where clark would fit.

Buzz said that he wants a roster with 3 PGs, 3 Cs, and the rest switchables. For 2012-13, we have 2 PGs (Junior and DW). For 2013-14, we have 2 PGs (DW and DW). In both years we're one short of his ideal. If Clark came in this year, that would also spread the 3 perfectly over 3 years.

Granted, it doesn't fix the C problem, but one step at a time, right?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 22, 2012, 11:28:45 PM
UConn would take anyone with a pulse that actually played HS ball. If Oklahoma has room, that'll likely be his first choice. If they don't have room, who knows where he ends up? Pretty sure Louisville would have to run someone else off to take him (though it's been done there before). From what I've read of Clark, my guess is he'll go somewhere that doesn't have to force an opening. I could be wrong, but I really don't think forcing his way in would jive with the way he and his mother have conducted themselves. They seem classier and possessed of more integrity than that.
He has connections with UCONN. Louisville seems to be in on almost every transfer so they must have room. I heard tonight that MU is recruiting him.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 22, 2012, 11:31:27 PM
And back on topic about finney smith it would be a big advantage for MU if Florida and Louisville would land the transfers they are going after in turn opening up the door for MU to snatch Finney Smith. I believe we will fill the scholarship with a transfer.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on May 26, 2012, 02:44:16 PM
As stated above now that Florida landed Demontre Harris it opens the door for MU to land Finney Smith. My guess is Buzz will make a strong push once the dead period is over.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: TedBaxter on May 26, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
It wouldn't surprise anyone if Davante Gardner and/or Jamal Ferguson were pursuing Finney-Smith from the Virginia side.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: brewcity77 on May 29, 2012, 02:11:36 PM
With Aki gone, I think most are guessing we will be out of the running for DFS. Saw on Twitter that he's visiting Louisville this weekend. Montrezl Harrell will also be there this weekend. Wouldn't surprise me if they were vying for the same scholarship.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/29/finney-smith-to-visit-louisville/
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 03, 2012, 11:51:06 PM
How many open scholarships does Florida have?


1 open one.

Damontre Harris is now a Gator, so is DFS off their list?

Jeff Eisenberg of Yahoo Sports had the following to say.

"The addition of Harris won't change Florida's recruiting focus for the Class of 2013, which begins with talented in-state product Chris Walker, a 6-foot-8 power forward considered to be one of the top 10 high school seniors-to-be in the nation. Walker reportedly is still considering Kansas, Florida, Ohio State and Kentucky, among others.

What will be interesting to see is whether Florida continues its pursuit of Virginia Tech transfer Dorian Finney-Smith or former Hokies signee Montrezl Harrell.

The Gators were in the running for both before Harris made his choice. Now both might be more likely to look elsewhere since Florida added a player at their position."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/florida-finally-gets-big-man-south-carolina-transfer-141907284.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/florida-finally-gets-big-man-south-carolina-transfer-141907284.html)

Here's an update from the Florida rivals site, dated May 28th.

- Despite receiving a transfer commitment from 2010 four-star prospect power forward Damontre Harris (formerly of South Carolina) over the weekend, Florida will continue pursuing Virginia Tech forward transfer Dorian Finney-Smith, a source close to the team told me on Saturday. Finney-Smith's mother told Adam Zagoria of SNY.tv on Sunday that her son will choose between UF, Iowa State, Louisville, Marquette and Texas but has yet to schedule four of his five potential visits. Though the Gators' scholarship allotment was technically filled when Harris made his decision, UF would most definitely find a way to bring Finney-Smith in should he chose Florida when all is said and done.

So, Ohio State seems to have been a fleeting deal.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 03, 2012, 11:56:49 PM
Speaking of Montrezl Harrell, guess where he was this weekend?

In Louisville with DFS!

Louisville’s big recruiting weekend

Louisville is coming off of a season where they won the Big East tournament and made a run all the way to the Final Four. They are heading into a season where they will be a consensus top three team when the official preseason polls are released.

In other words, there probably aren’t three programs that will have a better 2012 calender year.

Which is why this weekend is so important for the future of the Cardinal program: Louisville will have enough talent visiting their campus to reach the 2015 Final Four.

It starts with a pair of Virginia Tech defectors. Montrezl Harrell, a top 100 big man in the class of 2012 and a former Tech signee, will be visiting Louisville (who many believe is his favorite) along with Dorian Finney-Smith, a transfer that left Tech when Seth Greenberg was fired. Finney-Smith would have to sit out a year before becoming eligible.

Also on campus will be a pair of top 30 prospects from the class of 2013. JaJuan Johnson is a shooting guard from Memphis that has seen his stock skyrocket after the spring evaluation period, which was aided by the fact that he has grown two inches to 6-foot-5 since last summer. Johnson is the nephew of Louis Williams of the 76ers. Jordan Mickey, an athletic comb0-forward and a five-star recruit, may be the most highly-regarded prospect that will be in Louisville this weekend.

Joining them will be 6-foot-7 wings Kates Beita-Diop and Malek Harris, both members of the class of 2014 from Illinois.

The saying “strike while the iron is hot” is fitting in the recruiting world. When your program is on the upswing, it is important to not only get talented recruits onto your campus, but to convince them to come to your school. That’s the best way to prevent your program from being on a downswing.

Pitino is halfway there this weekend.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/31/louisvilles-big-recruiting-weekend/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/31/louisvilles-big-recruiting-weekend/)

p.s. Last I checked Louisville had 13 scholarship players and two walk-ons, one of whom was all-state in Kentucky 2011.  That's after they cut Jared Swopshire loose to make room for their incoming recruit.  How Pitino does it, I don't know.

Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: LAZER on June 04, 2012, 07:51:29 AM
Harrel committed to Louisville per Telep
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: ecompt on June 04, 2012, 09:02:21 AM
Slick Rick will do what Syracuse does: find academic scholarships for two or three guys so he can dress 16 players. SU dressed 18 players for the MU game last winter.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on June 04, 2012, 09:43:41 AM
Well if Rick can do it and get away with it within the NCAA rules, I don't have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 04, 2012, 10:56:04 AM
Well if Rick can do it and get away with it within the NCAA rules, I don't have a problem with MU doing it.

Fixed!
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: brewcity77 on June 04, 2012, 11:35:34 AM
Harrel committed to Louisville per Telep

If UF and UL are both full, that's certainly good for us, I'd think. He still has the ISU visit, hopefully Buzz gets him on campus.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 04, 2012, 12:58:43 PM
If UF and UL are both full, that's certainly good for us, I'd think. He still has the ISU visit, hopefully Buzz gets him on campus.

And then Trent Lockett can explain why he choose MU over Iowa State!
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 04, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
Well if Rick can do it and get away with it within the NCAA rules, I don't have a problem with it.

It'll be a challenge this time with Montrezl Harrell now committing per Eamonn Brennan at ESPN.

"Harrell's commitment isn't 100 percent good news: It does create a scholarship logjam for the Cardinals, which will require some -- ahem -- creative reshuffling by Pitino similar to last summer, when a new batch of recruits forced Pitino to ask Kyle Kuric, Chris Smith and Elisha Justice to give up their scholarships and play as preferred walk-ons instead. Last summer's moves were made more elegant by Kuric's (whose father is a surgeon) and Smith's (whose older brother is well-paid New York Knicks guard J.R. Smith) dual willingness to pay for school. The process of finding an open scholarship for Harrell may be slightly messier."

It sounds like adding Dorian on top of Harrell would be a very big stretch for Louisville at this point which I have to think helps MU's cause.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: cheebs09 on June 04, 2012, 08:07:28 PM
I bet Pitino adopts a player.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 04, 2012, 08:19:40 PM
More from Rob Dauster at NBC sports.

"But that’s not where the discussion seems to be placed following Harrell’s commitment.

Instead, it centers around Louisville’s scholarship situation.

You see, Harrell becomes the Cards 14th scholarship player, and as anyone that follows college hoops can tell you, you are only allowed to give out 13 scholarships. So where did the available scholarship come from? That, we don’t know and may never find out. Did Pitino find out that Rozier won’t get eligible? Will Stephen Van Treese, whose family can afford to play for a year of college, become a walk-on? Will Raheem Buckles take a medical redshirt? Is Russ Smith actually JR and Chris Smith’s long lost brother?

What we do know is that Pitino has perfected the art of roster manipulation. Prior to last season, he got Chris Smith, Kyle Kuric and Elisha Justice to pay their own way for school. He ran off George Goode prior to last season. He did the same with Jared Swopshire this season.

You may not be a fan of the way Pitino is running the program, but you have to admit: it’s working."
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 04, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
Florida Rivals reaction to the Harrell news.

"Instead of visiting Florida and seeing what the Gators had to offer, four-star power forward Montrezl Harrell - a four-star 2012 recruit who had decommitted from Virginia Tech and was still looking for a home - committed to Louisville on Monday after visiting the school over the weekend. Despite the fact that Florida does not currently have an available scholarship, the Gators were in pursuit of Harrell to join their four-member 2012 class. UF has already acquired one transfer in former four-star PF Damontre Harris since National Signing Day came and went and is likely done adding players for the time being though former four-star forward Dorian Finney-Smith remains undecided his transfer destination after playing for Virginia Tech last season."

The way this reads it sounds like Florida was more interested in Harrell than DFS, in spite of DFS's much higher ranking out of HS.  I guess having a guy sit for a year is tough for some places to stomach.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on June 04, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
If UF and UL are both full, that's certainly good for us, I'd think. He still has the ISU visit, hopefully Buzz gets him on campus.

I think DFS has Iowa State later this week and then MU after.  With ISU a likely landing place for Uhtoff unless Iowa returns the Brust lawsuit favor on Becky, MU is the only leader left with a schollie, no?  Where does Tejas sit right now?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 04, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
I think DFS has Iowa State later this week and then MU after.  With ISU a likely landing place for Uhtoff unless Iowa returns the Brust lawsuit favor on Becky, MU is the only leader left with a schollie, no?  Where does Tejas sit right now?

They should still have a schollie.  ESPN has them still in on two HS seniors.  When HS seniors are still around in June, eligibility issues often lurk, tho.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on June 04, 2012, 09:04:21 PM
I think DFS has Iowa State later this week and then MU after.  With ISU a likely landing place for Uhtoff unless Iowa returns the Brust lawsuit favor on Becky, MU is the only leader left with a schollie, no?  Where does Tejas sit right now?
Have you heard that he is visiting MU after? That would be great to get him on campus where he has to make his decision fresh off of a MU visit.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on June 05, 2012, 11:56:35 PM
Zags blog said he will visit ISU later this week then possibly Georgetown. Did you really hear MU could be next?
Title: see one sources says Lville is a done deal - hopefully wrong
Post by: bamamarquettefan on June 06, 2012, 02:21:31 AM
Montrezl Harrell might not be the only player to give a pledge to the Louisville basketball program this week. Virginia Tech transfer Dorian Finney-Smith arrived on campus yesterday afternoon for a visit and will leave tomorrow morning. The 6-7 forward has very much enjoyed his time here in the Derby City over the past two days. Nothing has been officially reported just yet, but a source close to the program says “It’s a done deal.” It sounds like Finney-Smith’s situation is very similar to Montrezl Harrell, who left Louisville as an uncommitted prospect, only to make it official the next day. Finney-Smith had initially planned to make a visit to Iowa State from June 7-9. There has been nothing reported that he will cancel that visit, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he makes a decision before June 7. Louisville and Iowa State had been rumored to be the early leaders from Finney-Smith, but there have been some reports throughout the day that it wil...
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 06, 2012, 01:52:20 PM
Give Louisville basketball a boy and get back a man.

In a few short years your son will go from being a recruit with a sense of entitlement to a scared senior who will pay his own way or find himself another school to play for.

Okay, if Pitino finds a way to get two more players to pay their own way at Louisville or cuts players loose in June without damaging his ability to still get recruits then I am officially jealous.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on June 06, 2012, 01:55:29 PM
https://twitter.com/EvanDanielsFOX/status/210425800594427904

TA DA!!!!
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: MuMark on June 06, 2012, 02:02:56 PM
http://louisville.scout.com/2/1192629.html
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 06, 2012, 02:18:51 PM
https://twitter.com/EvanDanielsFOX/status/210425800594427904

TA DA!!!!

"He just received his release..."

Wouldn't, he was just given his release be more accurate?

My money is on Rakeem Buckles being the next to go, if DFS comes on board.

Pitino isn't as dumb as Bo, he knows that if you're gonna F with a player you do it when they've been out of AAU ball for three years.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: tower912 on June 06, 2012, 02:24:52 PM
And somehow, the louisville fans see this as a good thing and not a sign of the impending apocalypse. 
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 06, 2012, 02:43:25 PM
And somehow, the louisville fans see this as a good thing and not a sign of the impending apocalypse. 

Some posters here (probably because they went to a Jesuit school) have an inherent sense of fair play that overrides the win at all costs attitude.  I'm somewhat ambivalent.  If the program isn't hurt is it okay to just dump kids?

Louisville clearly has no qualms.  Swoopshire and Van Treese were contributors to the Louisville program, but Pitino saw the chance to get younger talent on campus, so bye bye.

Newbill screwed up by not getting his application in, so MU was legally able to cut him loose when a more talented guy with more height became available.  Durley, I assume, choose not to come when it was made clear that he was no longer wanted due to his lack of development during his senior year.  The only real difference I can see is Buzz doesn't feel an obligation to guys who haven't yet been on campus and contributed to the program.  Whatever you get from Pitino as a coach it's clear that loyalty and gratitude are not a part of the package.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: strotty on June 06, 2012, 06:28:22 PM
Looks as though Finney-Smith is no longer considering Marquette. Makes sense, given the McKay commitment.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 06, 2012, 09:15:54 PM
Looks as though Finney-Smith is no longer considering Marquette. Makes sense, given the McKay commitment.

Does it?  One of the things that upset DFS while he was at Virginia Tech was being used as a four, instead of a three.  Since Jameel's game is facing the basket, his commitment would seem to quiet that concern, if he came to MU.  Also, Louisville is still on his list and they have even more talent than MU.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Otule's Glass Eye on June 12, 2012, 10:52:42 AM
Visiting Memphis today.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 12, 2012, 12:29:56 PM
Visiting Memphis today.

Memphis was supposedly off his list, now it seems MU might be.  This looks like it may be Aki related, since he recruited the Virginia area while he was at MU, and now he's at Memphis.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: fanofTR on June 14, 2012, 06:51:27 PM
And off to Florida he goes via Twitter. Think he could have done some big things in our system. Still a great pickup for Billy D and the Gators.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: brewcity77 on June 14, 2012, 07:22:35 PM
And off to Florida he goes via Twitter. Think he could have done some big things in our system. Still a great pickup for Billy D and the Gators.

Suppose the only surprise is that I thought Florida was full with their last transfer. Looks like Donovan learned how to juggle scholarships under Pitino.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: wadesworld on June 14, 2012, 07:50:53 PM
Suppose the only surprise is that I thought Florida was full with their last transfer. Looks like Donovan learned how to juggle scholarships under Pitino.

Let's not pretend Marquette doesn't do the same thing. The timing of announcements may be different, but you're being ignorant if you think this doesn't happen at Marquette.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 14, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
Let's not pretend Marquette doesn't do the same thing. The timing of announcements may be different, but you're being ignorant if you think this doesn't happen at Marquette.

So far not for a player already on campus under Buzz.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: MattyWarrior on June 14, 2012, 08:26:49 PM
Florida and Memphis are both loaded for the future.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: brewcity77 on June 14, 2012, 09:34:27 PM
Let's not pretend Marquette doesn't do the same thing. The timing of announcements may be different, but you're being ignorant if you think this doesn't happen at Marquette.

I haven't seen MU add a player when we were full which necessitated someone already here getting kicked out. Newbill wasn't here yet, and Durley's spot still hasn't been filled for 2012. Were guys like Williams, Mbao, and Jones run off? I don't know. But their spots weren't filled while they were still here nor was it made public midseason that they were getting the boot. And we aren't sliding scholarship players in by getting starters to walk-on (which I honestly hope doesn't happen with Mayo). I'm not pretending MU is perfect, but the antics of a guy like Pitino aren't comparable to anything happening here.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Avenue Commons on June 14, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
Some guys have, uh, been "asked" to leave because of, uh, some really awful choices.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 14, 2012, 11:18:09 PM
Some guys have, uh, been "asked" to leave because of, uh, some really awful choices.

Okay, I'll bite.  What the hell are you talking about?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Bocephys on June 14, 2012, 11:32:55 PM
Okay, I'll bite.  What the hell are you talking about?

I believe he's talking about Erik Williams.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on June 15, 2012, 07:33:20 AM
DJ Newbill
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: cheebs09 on June 15, 2012, 07:40:10 AM
DJ Newbill

Is this part of the making an awful choice or reasons we shouldn't get on our high-horse about Pitino?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on June 15, 2012, 07:45:32 AM
Is this part of the making an awful choice or reasons we shouldn't get on our high-horse about Pitino?


The latter.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: damuts222 on June 15, 2012, 07:46:19 AM
Without looking it up. Is Louisville essentially forcing two players out now for next year?

How many players paid their own way that previously had scholarships at Louisville last year, 2?
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 15, 2012, 08:11:04 AM
Without looking it up. Is Louisville essentially forcing two players out now for next year?


Yes, Jared Swoopshire (already enrolled at Northwestern) and Stephen Van Treese.

How many players paid their own way that previously had scholarships at Louisville last year, 2?


Correct, Kyle Kuric and Chris Smith.  Elisha Justice turned down a scholarship offer to Kentucky to pay his own way at Louisville.  He still has two more years.  They also had/have another walk-on giving them a roster of 17 last year.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 15, 2012, 08:21:59 AM
Some guys have, uh, been "asked" to leave because of, uh, some really awful choices.

This cryptic crap is BS.  Maybe you get off on people spending half a page trying to guess at what you're saying. Maybe you really don't know what the hell you're talking about, and don't want to be called out on it.  Man up and post something concrete or don't post at all.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: The Process on June 15, 2012, 09:40:36 AM

The latter.

IMO the Newbill situation was one of the most... bizarre... I've seen at MU in awhile.  The fact that he hadn't applied to MU that late in the game was just something else.  If he had been admitted to MU and enrolling in classes for the fall, that'd make the situation a far more apples-to-apples comp with what Mr. Sharp Dressed Man is doing at Louisville.  I do have to hand it to him - this is one sharp suit:

(http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/basketball/college/img16024230.jpg)
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 15, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
This cryptic crap is BS.  Maybe you get off on people spending half a page trying to guess at what you're saying. Maybe you really don't know what the hell you're talking about, and don't want to be called out on it.  Man up and post something concrete or don't post at all.

+ a zillion
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 15, 2012, 10:02:26 AM
+ a zillion

He's spot on that a number of our former players have been asked to leave and then billed as transfers.  No reason to ruin their careers more than they already have themselves.

You guys all know that you can't go around posting information like that, and that it'll be impossible to back up without posting information about who in the athletic department was chatting about it.  It's private information about kids that don't play for MU anymore.  Let it drop.
Title: Re: Latest on Dorian Finney-Smith
Post by: GGGG on June 15, 2012, 10:08:06 AM
IMO the Newbill situation was one of the most... bizarre... I've seen at MU in awhile.  The fact that he hadn't applied to MU that late in the game was just something else.  If he had been admitted to MU and enrolling in classes for the fall, that'd make the situation a far more apples-to-apples comp with what Mr. Sharp Dressed Man is doing at Louisville. 


I am not going to re-hash the whole thing again, but while not a perfect comparison, it certainly was similar...similar enough that we should get off our high horse.