http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7886942/indiana-hoosiers-kentucky-wildcats-series-ending-venue-disagreement
Crean/IU refused to play games at Lucas Oil in Indianapolis. why? Still a home court advantage, could still guarantee student tickets and probably make more profit than in Bloomington.
Wow, Kentucky was willing to play both games in Indianapolis, and IU said no. IU evidently didn't think that their students would travel the what - one hour trip to Indy - and turned UK down. I guess IU thought their students couldn't pony up the price of tickets, interesting.
Quote from: jesmu84 on May 03, 2012, 03:07:33 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7886942/indiana-hoosiers-kentucky-wildcats-series-ending-venue-disagreement
Crean/IU refused to play games at Lucas Oil in Indianapolis. why? Still a home court advantage, could still guarantee student tickets and probably make more profit than in Bloomington.
Considering what took place in Assembly this past season, no shock that IU wanted the game to remain on campus.
Calipari looks like he's running for cover now that he has his title. First, he ends his series with UNC. Now, he ends his series with a revived Indiana. Strange that such a brash individual, and program, would shrink in these matters.
Have to give Crean credit, he's put up a display commemorating their victory Over Kentucky last year.
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=111053
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on May 03, 2012, 04:58:09 PM
Considering what took place in Assembly this past season, no shock that IU wanted the game to remain on campus.
Calipari looks like he's running for cover now that he has his title. First, he ends his series with UNC. Now, he ends his series with a revived Indiana. Strange that such a brash individual, and program, would shrink in these matters.
Seems it was Crean and IU who ran for cover here, and not Calipari? How is Crean not agreeing to play both games at Lucas stadium in Indy, indicative of Calipari running for cover? Seems games held in Indiana would be more of a home court advantage for IU than Kentucky?
Wow, Crean's actin' a fool right now. Not shocked and sweet display case (not shocked, again).
Quote from: jpvegas on May 03, 2012, 05:21:49 PM
Have to give Crean credit, he's put up a display commemorating their victory Over Kentucky last year.
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=111053
Wow .. so IU had a "mediocre" season. What a bunch of entitled a-holes.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on May 03, 2012, 06:42:09 PM
Wow .. so IU had a "mediocre" season. What a bunch of entitled a-holes.
If Marquette won the national championship last year, people here would be saying the same stuff about Crean's trophy case.
Did they take that trophy case dimensions out of Hickory High? You'd think they'd construct something nicer.
I've got no problems with that display. It's commemorating a season which is the lone bright spot in a number of years. Not much different than some of the stuff you'd find at the AL.
Is that a digital scroll of all of i4's tweets from that week?
Quote from: PTM on May 03, 2012, 05:47:14 PM
Wow, Crean's actin' a fool right now. Not shocked and sweet display case (not shocked, again).
I hear that there are two display cases covering all aspects of Crean's hiring.
Quote from: Ners on May 03, 2012, 05:36:22 PM
Seems it was Crean and IU who ran for cover here, and not Calipari? How is Crean not agreeing to play both games at Lucas stadium in Indy, indicative of Calipari running for cover? Seems games held in Indiana would be more of a home court advantage for IU than Kentucky?
Tickets were to be divided in half per Calipari.
Quote from: jesmu84 on May 03, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
I've got no problems with that display. It's commemorating a season which is the lone bright spot in a number of years. Not much different than some of the stuff you'd find at the AL.
Marquette isn't Indiana, bro.
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on May 03, 2012, 07:22:22 PM
Is that a digital scroll of all of i4's tweets from that week?
Digital scroll of CoachTomCrean would be better.
Quote from: PTM on May 03, 2012, 07:52:28 PM
Digital scroll of CoachTomCrean would be better.
alas....
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on May 03, 2012, 07:22:22 PM
Is that a digital scroll of all of i4's tweets from that week?
He too had some bad Mexican. Seems like Chernobyl is a likely landin' spot.
To sum this thread up. The guys that hate Crean think he is to blame here. The guys that hate Caliprari believe Crean is to blame here (how quickly the Cal haters become Cal lovers).
Does that about capture it all?
Both schools are to blame. Easy to spin it either way. IU beats UK (not KU as the subject line says) at Assembly Hall in one of the best regular season games in maybe 20 years and UK doesn't want to play at Assembly Hall anymore. That looks like UK is ducking. On the other hand, UK offers a game in Indianapolis where far more fans can go and it will still be in the state of Indiana.
If I were Crean, I would want it at Assembly Hall where they have become almost unbeatable and where every fan will be a IU fan. At the dome, you'll have 40K for the game at least 10K will be UK fans.
If I were Cal, of course I would want the game at domes. IU is relevant again, only makes sense for them to want a game in a football stadium where he can get many of his fans at the game.
Historically, the game was played on campus. Then it went to neutral sites and back to campus the last few years.
As a college basketball fan, I always prefer games on campus and not at silly football stadiums where they are stale and too big. If IU-PU was in Indy, it would suck. Is Coach Cal going to move the UK-UL series to neutral sites in Kentucky? If ND said MU needs to play ND in Chicago at a neutral site, would we be thrilled?
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 04, 2012, 12:06:32 AM
If ND said MU needs to play ND in Chicago at a neutral site, would we be thrilled?
Thrilled, no, but the dollars would probably determine where the game was. With the proposed switch to Lucas both would have been in for a bigger payday, which is what makes this most surprising to me.
Dudes, we all know that I4 has a banner waiting to be dropped from the rafters, hence why he is insisting on the game being played at AH.
That display is an embarrassment. A Sweet 16 t-shirt? Really? At Indiana? It's starting down there.
Ending this rivalry is Crean's version of pulling a George Constanza and leaving the room after uttering a memorable line. Looks like he's feeling his oats a little. He better back it up after Indiana turned down those paydays.
When the news was breaking on Twitter (Twitta Tracker?), it sounded like Crean wanted a home-and-home and Calipari wanted the neutral site games. The national guys were much harder on Calipari than Crean.
Sorry guys but Iu/uk has bern a tradition forever. Usually has always been played at a neutral court. Considering what crean did with the MU schedule ... That is we played Nooooooooo one precon. Is it really surprising that he is doing this at Iu??
Also Uk beating Iu helps them get indiana kids, tommy naismiths image would be tarnished losing recruits n games to uk every year.
The fans n the players are the losers in this, but since when do they matter in the tom crean glory ride
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 04, 2012, 07:02:17 AM
When the news was breaking on Twitter (Twitta Tracker?), it sounded like Crean wanted a home-and-home and Calipari wanted the neutral site games. The national guys were much harder on Calipari than Crean.
Yeah, this surprised me, but Calipari was getting the heat for ducking out of the home-and-home arrangement, which has been in place for about a decade. These games should be played on-campus.
Let me also add that if it were Crean lobbying for the neutral site game and not Calipari, you irrational-Crean-bashers would be accusing him of being scared of going to Lexington next December.
Sorry, but pinning this on Crean is just sour grapes. IU/UK have played a home-and-home series for what seems like forever. He wanted to continue that. Calipari apparently places more value on the marketing gimmick of Indy (and a less partisan crowd) than the risk of facing a truly hostile crowd every 2 years.
Anyone who thinks this is Marquette/Milwaukee is simply being delusional. That series should continue and should be a home-and-home...hard to get down on Crean for realizing that :-\
Then again, some will get down on Crean regardless...
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 04, 2012, 08:15:59 AM
Then again, some will get down on Crean regardless...
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 04, 2012, 08:15:59 AM
Sorry, but pinning this on Crean is just sour grapes. IU/UK have played a home-and-home series for what seems like forever. He wanted to continue that. Calipari apparently places more value on the marketing gimmick of Indy (and a less partisan crowd) than the risk of facing a truly hostile crowd every 2 years.
Anyone who thinks this is Marquette/Milwaukee is simply being delusional. That series should continue and should be a home-and-home...hard to get down on Crean for realizing that :-\
Then again, some will get down on Crean regardless...
If playing a home and home series since 2006 seems like forever then I guess you're right, but from 1991-2005 the game alternated between Louisville's Freedom Hall and Indianapolis's Dome.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 08:47:52 AM
If playing a home and home series since 2006 seems like forever then I guess you're right, but from 1991-2005 the game alternated between Louisville's Freedom Hall and Indianapolis's Dome.
Forgot they alternated that, but they still alternated it between Kentucky and Indiana, giving an effective home-and-home series. And I suppose it's just coincidence that on the same day IU and UK can't come to terms, UK and UNC also drop their series?
I'm not saying there isn't some blame to go to IU as well, but this is a lot more UK not wanting to play these games because they don't want to lose them than I think it is either Roy or TC not wanting the series to continue. Maybe I'm off-base, but warthog's post perfectly characterizes what I'm talking about, that some people will take a swipe at TC any chance they get, whether justified or not.
A few things:
- If it was played at at neutral sites for 15 of the previous 20 seasons in KY & IN and now UK is saying lets play all in Indiana, that sounds like TC is ducking.
- That UNC-UK series had been going on for what, 5 minutes?
- Say what you will about Cal but only 1 game matters for him, the Nat'l Championship game. Everything else is peanuts so he's not the type of coach who's rigging his sked to be able say "20 win season!"
Quote from: jesmu84 on May 03, 2012, 03:07:33 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7886942/indiana-hoosiers-kentucky-wildcats-series-ending-venue-disagreement
Crean/IU refused to play games at Lucas Oil in Indianapolis. why? Still a home court advantage, could still guarantee student tickets and probably make more profit than in Bloomington.
One thing I've agreed with with Dickie V is that all games should be played in a basketball venue. Glad to see Crean not give Kentucky what they want.
The old Hoosier Dome and Freedom Hall neutral sites were always 50/50 crowd wise. The Lucas Oil site would be the same way - no real home court advantage for IU.
They divided the stands in half....half would be blue...half in red. The line ran pretty much down the center of the court. I went to one at the Hoosier Dome eons ago. It was very impressive.
That being said, college basketball should be played on campus.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 04, 2012, 08:59:17 AM
Forgot they alternated that, but they still alternated it between Kentucky and Indiana, giving an effective home-and-home series.
And now Kentucky is willing to play ALL the games in Indianapolis if that's what IU wants.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 04, 2012, 06:29:10 AM
That display is an embarrassment. A Sweet 16 t-shirt? Really? At Indiana? It's starting down there.
Ending this rivalry is Crean's version of pulling a George Constanza and leaving the room after uttering a memorable line. Looks like he's feeling his oats a little. He better back it up after Indiana turned down those paydays.
A t-shirt for winning a regular season game. This is an embarrassment. Wait, on closer look,
Kentucky produced a t-shirt for beating UNC in the regular season and sells a t-shirt? How embarrassing!!! What are they doing? Descpicable. They need to act like a blue blood program like Marquette. ::)
Here we have two of the most prestigious programs in the nation choosing how they honor what is most precious to them, the game of basketball, and yet we have some of our fans deciding how these blueblood programs should celebrate. Maybe if MU honored basketball and embraced it in the same way, we could be more like them. Your act is fun to watch.
http://blog.wildcatwearhouse.com/2011/12/1-nation-1-team-1-blue/
(http://blog.wildcatwearhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/UKUNC_2011-300x300.jpg)
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 09:24:47 AM
And now Kentucky is willing to play ALL the games in Indianapolis if that's what IU wants.
But that wouldn't give IU any advantage. Believe me...Kentucky fans would stream up here by the thousands. Completely neutral site.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 04, 2012, 09:14:00 AM
The old Hoosier Dome and Freedom Hall neutral sites were always 50/50 crowd wise. The Lucas Oil site would be the same way - no real home court advantage for IU.
They divided the stands in half....half would be blue...half in red. The line ran pretty much down the center of the court. I went to one at the Hoosier Dome eons ago. It was very impressive.
That being said, college basketball should be played on campus.
News flash! Money is involved. Kentucky wants to play in a larger venue and doesn't care whether it's in Indy or Louisville.
Should MU move their games out of their off campus facility to the AL?
Playing basketball in football stadiums is the worst.
Quote from: The Lens on May 04, 2012, 09:08:42 AM
A few things:
- If it was played at at neutral sites for 15 of the previous 20 seasons in KY & IN and now UK is saying lets play all in Indiana, that sounds like TC is ducking.
- That UNC-UK series had been going on for what, 5 minutes?
- Say what you will about Cal but only 1 game matters for him, the Nat'l Championship game. Everything else is peanuts so he's not the type of coach who's rigging his sked to be able say "20 win season!"
That's the exact point on both sides.
Cal runs an NBDL franchise. He won't do a thing that doesn't promote him or his program they way HE wants it to be promoted (fair enough). But when you position yourself as the Evil Empire, and then duck games that will test the Evilness of your Empire, it doesn't paint a positive light. You can't be the villain and at the same time control every aspect. It doesn't fit the narrative.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 09:30:59 AM
News flash! Money is involved. Kentucky wants to play in a larger venue and doesn't care whether it's in Indy or Louisville.
News flash! IU's motivations aren't necessarily UK's motivations.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 09:30:59 AM
Should MU move their games out of their off campus facility to the AL?
Don't be such a pedant.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 08:47:52 AM
If playing a home and home series since 2006 seems like forever then I guess you're right, but from 1991-2005 the game alternated between Louisville's Freedom Hall and Indianapolis's Dome.
Prior to that, the games were on campus. They brought them back in 2006 and people were thrilled. Columnists wrote about the games back where they belonged, on campus. Why are you ignoring the long history of where the games are played? The 15 years at neutral sites were the exception, not the rule.
From 1969 to 1991 the game was on campus. 23 games
From 1992 to 2006 the games were on a neutral site. 15 games
Since 2007, games back on campus. 5 games
Looks to me like more games played on campus then not on campus
Both sides to blame, but after watching the atmosphere on tv of UK vs IU this past season, I would want the game on campus if I were IU as well.
In other news, UK now has said the North Carolina game, as well, won't be played. Sure looks like Coach Cal is ducking games.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 04, 2012, 07:59:01 AM
Sorry guys but Iu/uk has bern a tradition forever. Usually has always been played at a neutral court. Considering what crean did with the MU schedule ... That is we played Nooooooooo one precon. Is it really surprising that he is doing this at Iu??
Also Uk beating Iu helps them get indiana kids, tommy naismiths image would be tarnished losing recruits n games to uk every year.
The fans n the players are the losers in this, but since when do they matter in the tom crean glory ride
Incorrect, usually the game has been played on campus. Your hatred has you by the balls again. In the last two days UK is now not playing IU and UNC. Who is ducking who?
Quote from: connie on May 04, 2012, 06:01:53 AM
Thrilled, no, but the dollars would probably determine where the game was. With the proposed switch to Lucas both would have been in for a bigger payday, which is what makes this most surprising to me.
IU and UK aren't struggling for money. Sometimes tradition, what is right for their program, etc, are more important. One of the dumbest moves Crean ever made was playing Southern Miss at a neutral site up in Green Bay. That was for money and state exposure and it burned him. I'm sure he is learning from his mistakes.
Quote from: The Lens on May 04, 2012, 09:08:42 AM
A few things:
- If it was played at at neutral sites for 15 of the previous 20 seasons in KY & IN and now UK is saying lets play all in Indiana, that sounds like TC is ducking.
- That UNC-UK series had been going on for what, 5 minutes?
- Say what you will about Cal but only 1 game matters for him, the Nat'l Championship game. Everything else is peanuts so he's not the type of coach who's rigging his sked to be able say "20 win season!"
The UNC-UK series going on longer than a decade against the two winningest programs in the nation. Not 5 minutes.
More games between UK-IU played on campus than neutral sites.
I don't think Crean has to worry about 20 win seasons anymore. He has it rolling down there much to the anger and disbelief of many a MU poster.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 09:30:59 AM
News flash! Money is involved. Kentucky wants to play in a larger venue and doesn't care whether it's in Indy or Louisville.
Should MU move their games out of their off campus facility to the AL?
So money didn't matter the last 6 years, but now it matters moving forward because UK's basketball fortunes are in such disrepair?
MU isn't UK or IU, we've all established that here. Your analogy is wrong.
Basketball games should be played in basketball venues.
Show me the last great game with great atmosphere during the regular season that was played in a football stadium? The great games, with the students rushing the court, the fans going crazy are games like Duke-UNC (basketball arena), IU-UK last year, UW-MU. Can you imagine a UW-MU game at Miller Park? Yeah, we would make a lot more money and there would be 30K UW fans there and 20K MU fans. But we would make more money. :o
Games in domes, on aircraft carries, etc suck the excitement right out of them.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 04, 2012, 09:36:57 AM
News flash! IU's motivations aren't necessarily UK's motivations.
Think IU would move their game vs University of Maryland Baltimore County to Indy if they were guaranteed 65,000 fannies in the seats? Don't be naive.
The defensiveness of a PURDUE fan over the end of this IU/UK rivalry is quite bizarre!
This would be akin to Chicos and his wife having a dinner party and having their guests watch Nickelodeon instead of Disney.
Okay, fine Lennys...Tom Crean is the epitome of evil and everything bad in college basketball is solely due to him. If only he would go away forever, then everything in the world would be perfect. Calipari is also a pure and sacred virgin and a fine and upstanding program like Kentucky that has never attracted the eye of the NCAA rules committees couldn't possibly be at all to blame for any part in what are clearly the wrongdoings of the most heinous man in the world, Osama bin Laden's role model, Tanned Tommy Crean.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 09:59:06 AM
Think IU would move their game vs University of Maryland Baltimore County to Indy if they were guaranteed 65,000 fannies in the seats? Don't be naive.
Really? They could get 65,000 fannies in the seats for a bunch of games right now. How come they don't do it regularly? Why don't they host both IU / Purdue games in the dome?
The answer is because people would rather have them on campus...the donors who buy the prime seats especially.
Naive is thinking that paid attendance is where the money is made. IU makes a great deal more off television revenue, and through donations for the prime Assembly Hall seats.
Quote from: 79Warrior on May 03, 2012, 07:47:29 PM
Tickets were to be divided in half per Calipari.
This is how it was done in previous neutral site games between IU and UK -- venue seating literally split down the middle in game I attended at Hoosier a/k/a RCA Dome.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 04, 2012, 10:22:50 AM
Okay, fine Lennys...Tom Crean is the epitome of evil and everything bad in college basketball is solely due to him. If only he would go away forever, then everything in the world would be perfect. Calipari is also a pure and sacred virgin and a fine and upstanding program like Kentucky that has never attracted the eye of the NCAA rules committees couldn't possibly be at all to blame for any part in what are clearly the wrongdoings of the most heinous man in the world, Osama bin Laden's role model, Tanned Tommy Crean.
Brew, you're a great asset to Scoop. Lots of good information and well thought out opinion. But you based a rant on "facts" that weren't. Sorry if my pointing out that inconvenient truth makes you angry.
Quote from: connie on May 04, 2012, 06:01:53 AM
Thrilled, no, but the dollars would probably determine where the game was. With the proposed switch to Lucas both would have been in for a bigger payday, which is what makes this most surprising to me.
Not necessarily a bigger payday, or at least that much of a bigger payday -- the costs of the facility rental and staffing/operation expenses are not insignificant.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 10:51:19 AM
Brew, you're a great asset to Scoop. Lots of good information and well thought out opinion. But you based a rant on "facts" that weren't. Sorry if my pointing out that inconvenient truth makes you angry.
I admitted I forgot they played "neutral" site games, I'm fine with that, I just don't get this obsessive need to continue to bash Crean. It was old 2 years ago. At some point, I'd think you would realize he's gone and just let it go.
What...did you date Joanie in high school before he stole her away? Why does everything involving Crean have to turn into a bash Crean session? Why does everything involving Crean even have to show up here? Honestly, I think some people care more about bashing Crean than they do what's going on with our own program. I just don't get it.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 04, 2012, 10:27:26 AM
The answer is because people would rather have them on campus...the donors who buy the prime seats especially.
That's not what TC says. It's all about the students, and they wouldn't be able to afford the 45 mile trip to Indy.
There are reasons to call TC a douche.
Wanting games on his own campus isn't one of them.
Quote from: buzzchiapet on May 04, 2012, 09:13:25 AM
One thing I've agreed with with Dickie V is that all games should be played in a basketball venue. Glad to see Crean not give Kentucky what they want.
So, would it be acceptable to play at Conseco instead?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 10:55:36 AM
That's not what TC says. It's all about the students, and they wouldn't be able to afford the 45 mile trip to Indy.
So what if that's what he says? Would MU students flock to the UC to watch a neutral site Marquette/ND game? You get a lot more students on campus than you do an hour away. You might still fill the venue, but it won't have the same feel at Lucas Oil that it will in Bloomington or Lexington.
I would much rather have MU/Wisconsin play home-and-home than some neutral site made-for-tv game at Miller Park or some other venue. If we had a series with Illinois, I'd rather a home-and-home than an annual UC game.
If Crean were just a shameless publicity whore, I think he'd buy into this hook, line, and sinker. This is one of the few times where it seems like he's doing the right thing, the non-whorelike thing, and he still gets bashed. I swear, the guy could find a cure for AIDS and you'd be wondering about his plan to market it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 04, 2012, 10:55:16 AM
I admitted I forgot they played "neutral" site games, I'm fine with that, I just don't get this obsessive need to continue to bash Crean. It was old 2 years ago. At some point, I'd think you would realize he's gone and just let it go.
What...did you date Joanie in high school before he stole her away? Why does everything involving Crean have to turn into a bash Crean session? Why does everything involving Crean even have to show up here? Honestly, I think some people care more about bashing Crean than they do what's going on with our own program. I just don't get it.
Glad you're "fine" when it's pointed out that you based an over the top rant/defense of TC on incorrect information, though I must say you certainly don't sound "fine" with it.
Maybe while all of us demented Scoopers are being treated for our obsessive behavior you'll do something about your anger issues.
Oh, and no, I never dated Joanie. My distaste for her husband has nothing to do with his record at Marquette nor the way in which he exited Milwaukee. I think he is a phony and a user - a bad guy. I felt that way when he was at MU and I'll probably still feel that way after he's left Indiana.
Finally, IMHO most of the "Crean bashing" done around here is pretty darn funny. You disagree. Feel free to continue to lecture us on how making fun of TC means we don't care about Marquette, but don't be upset if we disagree.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 04, 2012, 07:59:01 AM
Sorry guys but Iu/uk has bern a tradition forever. Usually has always been played at a neutral court.
IU/UK have played every year since 1969 (also played a number of games prior to that, just not part of the current streak)
As for location, at least since 1976, pretty evenly split between on campus and neutral site:
On campus from 1976 to 1986 and 2006 to 2011;
Freedom Hall and Hoosier a/k/a RCA dome in 1987* and 1989*, then 1991 to 2005.
* was not able to confirm location for games held in/at Kentucky in 1988 and 1990.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 10:55:36 AM
That's not what TC says. It's all about the students, and they wouldn't be able to afford the 45 mile trip to Indy.
While that might be true, it is hardly the main reason.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
Glad you're "fine" when it's pointed out that you based an over the top rant/defense of TC on incorrect information, though I must say you certainly don't sound "fine" with it.
Maybe while all of us demented Scoopers are being treated for our obsessive behavior you'll do something about your anger issues.
Oh, and no, I never dated Joanie. My distaste for her husband has nothing to do with his record at Marquette nor the way in which he exited Milwaukee. I think he is a phony and a user - a bad guy. I felt that way when he was at MU and I'll probably still feel that way after he's left Indiana.
Finally, IMHO most of the "Crean bashing" done around here is pretty darn funny. You disagree. Feel free to continue to lecture us on how making fun of TC means we don't care about Marquette, but don't be upset if we disagree.
It was funny three years ago. It is pathetic now.
And I'm hardly a fan of the guy.
Quote from: jesmu84 on May 04, 2012, 11:10:08 AM
So, would it be acceptable to play at Conseco instead?
Conseco is now Banker's Life Fieldhouse, but you and I and many others are going to have a hard time shaking free from use of the Conseco name.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 04, 2012, 12:02:48 PM
It was funny three years ago. It is pathetic now.
And I'm hardly a fan of the guy.
Again, it's certainly your prerogative to pick the date when 4ever, Ziggy, PRN et al ceased to be funny and became pathetic.
It's also valid for those you consider pathetic to view your stance as arbitrary and self important.
Just a power play by Crean. As noted, the game has been played at the RCA Dome a number of times, the students made the trip then. I have a feeling that Crean was more concerned about Lucas Oil being inundated with traveling Kentucky fans, turning IU's home game into an away game.
And while I could have had a chance to date Joanie in high school, she wasn't my type.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 04, 2012, 12:02:48 PMIt was funny three years ago. It is pathetic now.
And I'm hardly a fan of the guy.
+1
It just sounds like whining at this point, the jilted lover that still can't get over it years after the fact. I don't like Crean. Honestly, I was a bit glad to see him go because I was sick of the annual "give me a raise so I don't go to X" routine that became part of the summer ritual. But at some point, it just makes sense to let go :-\
Seriously...you really think Kentucky is the pious, wonderful institution in this that has the best ideals of the universities, students, and student athletes in mind in all this? I'm not saying there aren't two sides responsible, but to act as though Crean is some pantomime villain and Kentucky the honorable knight...well, I don't know what to tell you.
And Lennys...you want to talk about over the top...just look at any of your hundreds of posts continuing to bash Crean years after the fact. Deep breath...let it go...
...though by your own admission, you apparently don't have that capability.
Don't really care about this whole issue, but it was simply a wrong statement to say that Calipari was "ducking" or running away from playing games against IU. I'm sure UK wanted it to be a big $$$$ game, which would be the case if moved to Lucas Field. IU and Crean want it held on campus....but for Crean to say IU students wouldn't make the 45 minute drive was absolutely absurd...probably said that to simply try to justify why they wouldn't be open to the game being held annually in Indiana (and never being played in Kentucky).
The reality is that Indiana has chosen to let the game/matchup not occur due to not being willing to have the game held in their home state and recruiting base EVERY year...so in my view, they are more responsible for the game coming to an end, than are UK and Calipari...pretty sure if IU said we'd like to play it as a neutral site game in Louisville every year at the Yum Center...Kentucky would not decline..
Quote from: lurch91 on May 04, 2012, 12:55:53 PM
Just a power play by Crean. As noted, the game has been played at the RCA Dome a number of times, the students made the trip then. I have a feeling that Crean was more concerned about Lucas Oil being inundated with traveling Kentucky fans, turning IU's home game into an away game.
And while I could have had a chance to date Joanie in high school, she wasn't my type.
You were too busy dating my sister you piece of.......And I was trying to date your sister, so I guess we are even. ::) My recollection is that nobody was trying too hard to date her.
I applaud TC here. Good for him, why play some stupid TV game with a Hollywood atmosphere?
It's like having games outside on an aircraft carrier... so dumb. Why would you want to play/coach in that game? Shenanigans.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 04, 2012, 12:06:32 AM
To sum this thread up. The guys that hate Crean think he is to blame here. The guys that hate Caliprari believe Crean is to blame here (how quickly the Cal haters become Cal lovers).
Does that about capture it all?
Both schools are to blame. Easy to spin it either way. IU beats UK (not KU as the subject line says) at Assembly Hall in one of the best regular season games in maybe 20 years and UK doesn't want to play at Assembly Hall anymore. That looks like UK is ducking. On the other hand, UK offers a game in Indianapolis where far more fans can go and it will still be in the state of Indiana.
If I were Crean, I would want it at Assembly Hall where they have become almost unbeatable and where every fan will be a IU fan. At the dome, you'll have 40K for the game at least 10K will be UK fans.
If I were Cal, of course I would want the game at domes. IU is relevant again, only makes sense for them to want a game in a football stadium where he can get many of his fans at the game.
Historically, the game was played on campus. Then it went to neutral sites and back to campus the last few years.
As a college basketball fan, I always prefer games on campus and not at silly football stadiums where they are stale and too big. If IU-PU was in Indy, it would suck. Is Coach Cal going to move the UK-UL series to neutral sites in Kentucky? If ND said MU needs to play ND in Chicago at a neutral site, would we be thrilled?
The story seems to put the "blame" if that's even the right word at the Indiana AD whose decision Crean supports. Scheduling games require a match. No match here with UK looking for maximum revenue, and IU looking for their best chance to snag another win over UK.
Once a MF'er, always a MF'er.
Quote from: 2002MUalum on May 04, 2012, 11:06:03 AM
There are reasons to call TC a douche.
Wanting games on his own campus isn't one of them.
This should be the last words on this topic.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
Again, it's certainly your prerogative to pick the date when 4ever, Ziggy, PRN et al ceased to be funny and became pathetic.
I hope this statement means that I continue to be funny and estimable.
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 04, 2012, 07:25:15 PM
I hope this statement means that I continue to be funny and estimable.
Guess you are et al to Lenny there colonel.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on May 04, 2012, 10:20:20 AM
The defensiveness of a PURDUE fan over the end of this IU/UK rivalry is quite bizarre!
This would be akin to Chicos and his wife having a dinner party and having their guests watch Nickelodeon instead of Disney.
Nothing bizarre at all about it. If Wisconsin demanded MU play them on a neutral court everyone here would not go for it. No different, this is pure common sense.
The key statement was from the Kentucky AD. "I don't think he [Kentucky coach John Calipari] was really thrilled about going back to Bloomington, to be honest with you," Barnhart said.
Your humor continues to evade you.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 04, 2012, 10:27:26 AM
Really? They could get 65,000 fannies in the seats for a bunch of games right now. How come they don't do it regularly? Why don't they host both IU / Purdue games in the dome?
The answer is because people would rather have them on campus...the donors who buy the prime seats especially.
Naive is thinking that paid attendance is where the money is made. IU makes a great deal more off television revenue, and through donations for the prime Assembly Hall seats.
Well said
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on May 04, 2012, 12:02:48 PM
It was funny three years ago. It is pathetic now.
And I'm hardly a fan of the guy.
You're on fire. Well said
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 04, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
Again, it's certainly your prerogative to pick the date when 4ever, Ziggy, PRN et al ceased to be funny and became pathetic.
It's also valid for those you consider pathetic to view your stance as arbitrary and self important.
4ever funny. Ziggy, no. PRN, hard to find much of anything he has said that is funny. Obsessive, yes. Funny, no. Same goes for you. There are reasons why folks like BMA left, you fit the bill.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 04, 2012, 11:20:39 PM
Nothing bizarre at all about it. If Wisconsin demanded MU play them on a neutral court everyone here would not go for it. No different, this is pure common sense.
The key statement was from the Kentucky AD. "I don't think he [Kentucky coach John Calipari] was really thrilled about going back to Bloomington, to be honest with you," Barnhart said.
Your humor continues to evade you.
Well said
You're on fire. Well said
4ever funny. Ziggy, no. PRN, hard to find much of anything he has said that is funny. Obsessive, yes. Funny, no. Same goes for you. There are reasons why folks like BMA left, you fit the bill.
Only Chicos did this multiple quoting so he could launch multi-directional attacks. Please be honest as to who you really are!
(http://media.kentucky.com/smedia/2012/05/08/06/17/nQjI4.AuSt.79.jpg)
Quote from: Red Stripe on May 09, 2012, 10:23:01 AM
(http://media.kentucky.com/smedia/2012/05/08/06/17/nQjI4.AuSt.79.jpg)
And that's Cal's hometown paper, not the Bloomington Bee or some crap.
Most everyone knows where this series broke down.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on May 09, 2012, 03:42:38 PM
And that's Cal's hometown paper, not the Bloomington Bee or some crap.
Most everyone knows where this series broke down.
Cartoonist is an IU grad, so it may as well be the Bloomington Bee. And it's not like our "hometown paper" J/S gives MU very favorable coverage.
Quote from: Jamailman on May 09, 2012, 03:50:51 PM
Cartoonist is an IU grad, so it may as well be the Bloomington Bee. And it's not like our "hometown paper" J/S gives MU very favorable coverage.
Too funny. Lanche's "proof" that everybody, even UK fans, think Cal's at fault turns out to be a cartoon by an IU grad. Starting with a narrative and trying (too hard) to get the facts to fit. Priceless.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 09, 2012, 05:10:04 PM
Too funny. Lanche's "proof" that everybody, even UK fans, think Cal's at fault turns out to be a cartoon by an IU grad. Starting with a narrative and trying (too hard) to get the facts to fit. Priceless.
I apologize.
Edit: Google is fun. Well worth the lack of a life it takes to be a star in this forum. You're right, top guy, a Pulitzer-Prize winner would definitely ignore all integrity just to prove an ego-boosting collegiate back slap.
I'll let you and the cool guys get back to that hard hitting MU basketball discussion such as how your stool looks in a toilet, what level of smugness is too high, and decoding the cryptic passive aggressive messages of our straight-shooting coach from a third rate sports radio show.
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 05, 2012, 08:17:25 PM
Only Chicos did this multiple quoting so he could launch multi-directional attacks. Please be honest as to who you really are!
::)
Looking at threads just from the last two days might make you want to reconsider your comments.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32417.msg391429#msg391429
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32459.msg391632#msg391632
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32451.msg391498#msg391498
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32451.msg391570#msg391570
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32451.msg391617#msg391617
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32431.msg390971#msg390971
Nothing gets by you Commander. So glad we have you on that wall. Kill the bad guys, not the good guys. ;)
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on May 09, 2012, 05:42:07 PM
I apologize.
Edit: Google is fun. Well worth the lack of a life it takes to be a star in this forum. You're right, top guy, a Pulitzer-Prize winner would definitely ignore all integrity just to prove an ego-boosting collegiate back slap.
I'll let you and the cool guys get back to that hard hitting MU basketball discussion such as how your stool looks in a toilet, what level of smugness is too high, and decoding the cryptic passive aggressive messages of our straight-shooting coach from a third rate sports radio show.
Why are you apologizing? He should apologize to you.
You said "And that's Cal's hometown paper, not the Bloomington Bee or some crap.
Most everyone knows where this series broke down."
He turned "
most everyone" into "
everybody, even UK fans, think Cal's at fault turns out to be a cartoon by an IU grad. Starting with a narrative and trying (too hard) to get the facts to fit. Priceless."
What is really priceless is earlier today he went off on another poster for embellishing and he turns around and does the same thing. He should apologize to you, not the other way around.
The key to this whole thing is what the Kentucky AD said. That was the honest statement in this entire thing and I'm sure he wishes he wasn't caught on record saying it.
"I don't think he [Kentucky coach John Calipari] was really thrilled about going back to Bloomington, to be honest with you," Barnhart said.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 09, 2012, 09:24:19 PM
Why are you apologizing? He should apologize to you.
You said "And that's Cal's hometown paper, not the Bloomington Bee or some crap.
Most everyone knows where this series broke down."
He turned "most everyone" into " everybody, even UK fans, think Cal's at fault turns out to be a cartoon by an IU grad. Starting with a narrative and trying (too hard) to get the facts to fit. Priceless."
What is really priceless is earlier today he went off on another poster for embellishing and he turns around and does the same thing. He should apologize to you, not the other way around.
The key to this whole thing is what the Kentucky AD said. That was the honest statement in this entire thing and I'm sure he wishes he wasn't caught on record saying it.
"I don't think he [Kentucky coach John Calipari] was really thrilled about going back to Bloomington, to be honest with you," Barnhart said.
This post is nothing but The Bail Bondsman. Any suggestion that you are someone other than Chicos is a lie. DNA is what it is.
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 09, 2012, 11:14:48 PM
This post is nothing but The Bail Bondsman. Any suggestion that you are someone other than Chicos is a lie. DNA is what it is.
And for those of us who have him on ignore, it would be helpful not to quote him.
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 09, 2012, 11:14:48 PM
This post is nothing but The Bail Bondsman. Any suggestion that you are someone other than Chicos is a lie. DNA is what it is.
This past week you insist Chico and I are the only ones that use multiple quotes. You are then shown that your claim not only is not true, it isn't close to true in examining the last two days alone of posts here.
The last few weeks you have made several other ridiculous claims that were also proven incorrect.
Tonight, you decide to make another. At what point do you stop swinging the bat, missing again and decide to take a seat on the bench to cool off?
I worry that the potential exposure of DU is affecting your conclusions. Stay strong, stay sharp. I don't find you very funny nor agree with some of your commentary, but respect your right to give it and appreciate your contributions to this nation. Stay safe.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 09, 2012, 09:24:19 PM
Why are you apologizing? He should apologize to you.
You said "And that's Cal's hometown paper, not the Bloomington Bee or some crap.
Most everyone knows where this series broke down."
He turned "most everyone" into " everybody, even UK fans, think Cal's at fault turns out to be a cartoon by an IU grad. Starting with a narrative and trying (too hard) to get the facts to fit. Priceless."
What is really priceless is earlier today he went off on another poster for embellishing and he turns around and does the same thing. He should apologize to you, not the other way around.
.
God are you thick. Lanche's "apology" was dripping with sarcasm (some of it pretty funny).
Your right (broken clock theory strikes again) that "most everybody" is slightly different from "everybody". For the omission of the word (al)most I apologize. The fact that "most everybody" is blaming Calapari/Kentucky for this is nevertheless still untrue and an IU grad writing a cartoon lampooning Calipari (what a shock!) doesn't change that.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 10, 2012, 12:54:54 AM
I worry that the potential exposure of DU is affecting your conclusions. Stay strong, stay sharp. I don't find you very funny nor agree with some of your commentary, but respect your right to give it and appreciate your contributions to this nation. Stay safe.
This is over the line! If you want to continue to argue with Warthog (and MANY others) over your identity, feel free.
But to bring up Warthogs exposure to DU is really uncalled for. How the hell can you thank him for his service and make wise cracks about DU exposure?
Just stop. Please.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 09, 2012, 09:20:49 PMhttp://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32451.msg391617#msg391617
That's not a multi-quote, that is a single quote in the post, and another quote in his signature.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 09, 2012, 09:20:49 PMhttp://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32431.msg390971#msg390971
That's not a multi-quote, those are all quotes from the same post (check the timestamp).
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 09, 2012, 09:20:49 PMNothing gets by you Commander. So glad we have you on that wall. Kill the bad guys, not the good guys. ;)
The other four examples from three posters were, however, all multi-quotes. Hards_Alumni, chapman, and lab_warrior are clearly all Chicos.
UK has basically told IU that their business model is to avoid playing in hostile environments whenever possible. UK's goal is to win the NCAA tournament, and you do not play an NCAA tournament game in a hostile environment. UK will be continuing the 1 and done model, and freshman psyche can get bruised easily playing in such an environment in December. IU offered 1 game in Indy, 1 in Lousiville, 1 at Rupp, and 1 at Assembly Hall. Calipari shut it down, and told IU, UK is "above" that kind of deal.
Whether or not you like Crean, this falls on Calipari. And by the way, they are not "friends" any more. Kind of like Pitino and Cal, Crean and Cal are the same now.
Quote from: pbiflyer on May 10, 2012, 12:06:40 AM
And for those of us who have him on ignore, it would be helpful not to quote him.
And if more people put him on ignore, he would just go away.
Quote from: indeelaw90 on May 10, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
UK has basically told IU that their business model is to avoid playing in hostile environments whenever possible. UK's goal is to win the NCAA tournament, and you do not play an NCAA tournament game in a hostile environment. UK will be continuing the 1 and done model, and freshman psyche can get bruised easily playing in such an environment in December. IU offered 1 game in Indy, 1 in Lousiville, 1 at Rupp, and 1 at Assembly Hall. Calipari shut it down, and told IU, UK is "above" that kind of deal.
Whether or not you like Crean, this falls on Calipari. And by the way, they are not "friends" any more. Kind of like Pitino and Cal, Crean and Cal are the same now.
I think Crean is a d-bag, but I have to agree that Cal looks to be much more at fault for the end of this series than the tanned one.
Quote from: indeelaw90 on May 10, 2012, 09:44:08 AM
And by the way, they are not "friends" any more. Kind of like Pitino and Cal, Crean and Cal are the same now.
The same as in competing on the same level or the same as in equally slimy? Or both?
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 10, 2012, 12:54:54 AM
I worry that the potential exposure of DU is affecting your conclusions. Stay strong, stay sharp. I don't find you very funny nor agree with some of your commentary, but respect your right to give it and appreciate your contributions to this nation. Stay safe.
7 very good friends are now in the ground from the war. I know many others who have made the ultimate sacrifice. You make garbage statements like "DU exposure." This really says everything about you. You have risked nothing for anyone. You lack character, integrity, and have no idea what sacrifice means. The day you learn about honor is when you will stop the charade of bogus identity and cruel commentary. Until then you are nothing.
Hoop you really did cross the line. How can you make stupid comment and follow up with backhanded compliment? You may not agree with warthog but show the man some respect.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 10, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
The same as in competing on the same level or the same as in equally slimy? Or both?
Meaning they used to be friends, now, not so much.
Crean may be a d-bag to some, but I wouldn't describe him as slimy.
Oh, and IU is in negitations with a few schools to replace UK....Kansas and UCLA. I asked my contact about why not Marquette. He said Marquette, Syracuse, Georgetown and came up in the process, and Crean said he has way too many good memories from MU to play them (kind of like he hates playing Izzo).
Speaking of Coach Cal. He apparently was in my neighborhood yesterday with Seth Davis of CBS at a high school awards banquet.
http://www.newhavenregister.com/articles/2012/05/10/sports/doc4fab3b8b0754f906982832.txt?viewmode=fullstory
(The web address has a video and some photos.)
National champ John Calipari of Kentucky Wildcats visits state champ St. Joseph CadetsPublished: Thursday, May 10, 2012
By Joe Morelli, Schools Sports Editor
jmorelli@nhregister.com / Twitter: @nhrJoeMorelli
STRATFORD — The relationship between the men's basketball coach of the reigning NCAA Division I national champions and Connecticut's all-time winningest boys' basketball coach dates back a quarter-century.
John Calipari recruited a player from St. Joseph High by the name of Chris Watts in the late 1980s when he was the head coach at UMass.
Watts ended up going to Providence.
Watts helped St. Joseph coach Vito Montelli win back-to-back CIAC state championships in 1986-87 and was an assistant the last two seasons for another pair of back-to-back state titles.
Montelli still keeps in contact with Calipari. Now the Kentucky Wildcats' coach, Calipari was the guest speaker at the St. Joseph boys' basketball banquet Wednesday at Vazzano's Four Seasons.
In fact, less than a week after Montelli, 79, completed his 50th season with the Cadets in March, he placed a call to Calipari to ask him to come speak.
This was just days before Kentucky's Final Four matchup against Louisville.
"He asked me if I believe in free speech," Calipari said. "I said, 'Yeah I really do.' He said, 'Good you are going to give one for me for our banquet.' I've now gone a couple of times. I've recruited some of his kids, I never really coached any of his kids, but I always respected him as a man.
"I always knew he was a good basketball coach and a man of faith, but he is someone I have tons of respect for." Continued...
The Cadets finished unanimously in the top spot in the final Register Top 10 poll.
Montelli now has 878 career wins and 11 state titles.
"When I figured it out they won back-to-back championships, I said, 'I got to get up there and rub up against him.' Then we can do something back to back," Calipari said.
The master or ceremonies Wednesday was Seth Davis, who works for both CBS Sports and Sports Illustrated.
Davis met Montelli while covering boys' basketball for the New Haven Register in the early 1990s.
"After I left the Register and was at Sports Illustrated, every few months he would call when he read something of mine," said Davis, a Ridgefield resident. "I've met a lot of cool coaches who I sort of kept in touch with, but he's the only guy I have regularly kept in contact with."
It's been over a month since Kentucky cut down the nets in New Orleans on April 2.
Calipari has made plenty of public appearances, most recently at the White House on Friday and at the Kentucky Derby on Saturday.
"And he saved the best for last," Montelli said while hugging Calipari. Continued...
Said Calipari: "After this, I'm going to the Shore in Jersey and then we start thinking about next season. Someone said to me, 'You are taking that (national championship) trophy everywhere. What, do you sleep with it at night?' No, it sits beside my bed, but I don't sleep with it. It's been a fun time. It's been good."
It's time to get back into shaping the 2012-13 roster and beyond for Calipari, who had one daughter graduate from UMass and another one still attends the school.
Kentucky's entire starting lineup of underclassmen, freshmen Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Marquis Teague, and sophomores Terrence Jones and Doron Lamb, have all declared for the NBA Draft in June.
Most college programs would at least take a little bit of a hit.
Kentucky's may not skip a beat.
That's because Calipari has another heralded recruiting class coming in.
He has benefited from the rule that high school seniors must play at least one year of college ball before declaring for the draft.
But it's a rule Calipari has constantly said he is not in favor of.
"I don't like the one and done but I am coaching someone's child and I have to do the best for that person's child," Calipari said. "I need to have all the information for him and his family (to determine whether the players should turn pro)."
Calipari casually mentioned that Anthony Davis, expected to be the No. 1 pick next month, finished the semester with a 3.7 GPA. Continued...
"All this stuff bitter old men say that they don't go to class, it's not true," Calipari said. "The hard thing for me is I have to start all over each year.
"We have to encourage these kids to (stay) for two, three years. ... You have to negotiate and figure out what's best for these kids first, then what's best for the sport."
And despite being the coach for the top program in college basketball, Calipari still made time for the current No. 1 basketball team in the state and a coach who also remains at the pinnacle of the sport.
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Quote from: indeelaw90 on May 10, 2012, 11:20:59 AMMeaning they used to be friends, now, not so much.Crean may be a d-bag to some, but I wouldn't describe him as slimy.Oh, and IU is in negitations with a few schools to replace UK....Kansas and UCLA. I asked my contact about why not Marquette. He said Marquette, Syracuse, Georgetown and came up in the process, and Crean said he has way too many good memories from MU to play them (kind of like he hates playing Izzo).
I believe Crean feels good about Marquette but how many at Marquette feel good about him?
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 10, 2012, 10:20:52 AM
7 very good friends are now in the ground from the war. I know many others who have made the ultimate sacrifice. You make garbage statements like "DU exposure." This really says everything about you. You have risked nothing for anyone. You lack character, integrity, and have no idea what sacrifice means. The day you learn about honor is when you will stop the charade of bogus identity and cruel commentary. Until then you are nothing.
I'm sorry for your friends. A good number of us have lost friends or relatives to conflicts going back through the years. Don't tell me what I have or haven't risked for anyone. You know nothing about me or who I am, despite your constant accusations to the contrary. You've effectively just called everyone on this board worthless and without sacrifice. What if someone here was a kidney donor? Do you consider someone who donates a kidney to be someone who risks something for others? Do you consider someone who gives half their life savings to bail someone else out as someone who hasn't risked for others? You don't have to serve in the military to be a person of sacrifice.
My DU crack was out of line but meant to be a silly joke much like the others here attempting humor and poorly executing it. Your continued accusations is what started it and I attempted to ask what the heck your problem is. You were wrong again (just the latest) about some stupid double posting and I proved as such so you then digress into more accusations (or is it humor, I forget with you and Lenny). Humor, humor, humor, a guy can barely rest with the comedic relief from you.
The rest of my comment was sincere. I wish you health and safety.
I will say, however, you are also the only military person I know that name drops on your military exploits as much as you do. No one in my circle in the military does that around civilians. None of the people at work (a couple are former Air Force and Navy aviators) ever discuss their missions, training, service to the level you do. Family members do not either and certainly not on basketball message board. I don't know why you do. You mission drop more than Chicos name dropped. Take it down a notch. My mistake was taking you off ignore and it is obvious I need to put you back on.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 14, 2012, 11:24:46 PM
My mistake was taking you off ignore and it is obvious I need to put you back on.
AMF, Chicos
No one would be having these arguments if we all just took some time to slow down, take a Diet Coke out of the icebox, and step into a tanning bed for a little zen time.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on May 15, 2012, 01:09:12 PM
No one would be having these arguments if we all just took some time to slow down, take a Diet Coke out of the icebox, and step into a tanning bed for a little zen time.
Isn't Diet Pepsi the drink of choice before strapping a tanning bed to your arse? Perhaps that's just in Bloomington.
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 15, 2012, 01:12:40 PM
Isn't Diet Pepsi the drink of choice before strapping a tanning bed to your arse? Perhaps that's just in Bloomington.
DP at the BC, DC at AH
Quote from: Jamailman on May 15, 2012, 02:28:09 PM
DP at the BC, DC at AH
Roger that. What about incessant hand clapping?
Quote from: warthog-driver on May 15, 2012, 12:39:35 PM
AMF, Chicos
I asked one of the USAF guys here to read some of your stuff. He had never seen anything like it.
"He sounds like a JAFO to me the way he talks"
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 16, 2012, 09:25:46 AM
I asked one of the USAF guys here to read some of your stuff. He had never seen anything like it.
"He sounds like a JAFO to me the way he talks"
Don't be ashamed to admit you need professional help.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 16, 2012, 09:25:46 AM
I asked one of the USAF guys here to read some of your stuff. He had never seen anything like it.
"He sounds like a JAFO to me the way he talks"
Dude, you have a problem.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on May 16, 2012, 09:25:46 AM
I asked one of the USAF guys here to read some of your stuff. He had never seen anything like it.
"He sounds like a JAFO to me the way he talks"
Hey Air Force pal, can you read an anonymous post on a message board about a topic (MU basketball) you don't care anything about just so I can make a post demeaning another Air Force guy?
This, meeting random dudes for beer summits, get a life.
Maybe Hoopaloop really has multiple personality disorder.
The air force guy at direct tv sounds like a real REMF.
Hoopy -
My wife is a professional accredited mental health therapist. I believe that she would be OK with me offering you free mental health therapy on a limited basis. If it turns out to be long term (which I suspect it would), we'd have to renegotiate payment terms, but you can still have a free trial.
If you want her to do couples therapy including your buddy in California, you'd have to at least pick up the tab for transportation to and from the summit. If I come along, I'll need free beer and possibly tickets to a theme park.
Let me know.
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You're not alone, Jordi!
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Quote from: brewcity77 on May 16, 2012, 02:34:18 PM
You're not alone, Jordi!
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It should be. Really taken a weird turn. chicahoop should have put him on "ignore" like he said and let the Bruce Willis goodbye stand on it's own.
Getting nastier. Looks like IU tried again to meet in the middle and offered to play the next two games in Indianapolis with the final two on campus. They made concessions. Coach Cal and UK said no again.
College basketball suffers as Andy Katz correctly points out.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/conversations/_/id/7989398/kentucky-wildcats-indiana-hoosiers-basketball-series-talks-collapse-again
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/05/indiana-seeks-to-compromise-kentucky-shuts-it-down/1#.T8aXZZjSvTc
Ners and Lenny, do you still think IU is in the wrong after this? How strong is your hatred? :D
As long as IU is with Adidas, there's no need to broker this matchup with UK.
Nike would be a facilitator much as they may have been with OSU-MU.
Hearing talk today from IU/ND people at work...looks like Kentucky is prepared to announce a 2 year contract home and home with Notre Dame.
Add that to the drama...
In reality...if IU just signed a 2 year deal, all this he said she said talk would be over with.
Quote from: INDYWarrior on June 01, 2012, 09:03:31 AM
In reality...if IU just signed a 2 year deal, all this he said she said talk would be over with.
Bingo.
Quote from: INDYWarrior on June 01, 2012, 09:03:31 AM
Hearing talk today from IU/ND people at work...looks like Kentucky is prepared to announce a 2 year contract home and home with Notre Dame.
Add that to the drama...
In reality...if IU just signed a 2 year deal, all this he said she said talk would be over with.
Seems unlikely now that UK is playing ND in the BE/SEC Challenge. Maybe people heard about the Challenge game and confused it for a series.