Interesting... didn't play much freshman year, but a talent out of HS, 29th per ESPN
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/27/duke-transfer-gbinije-drawing-interest/
VCU, Marquette, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Villanova, Rutgers & more are looking at Duke transfer Michael Gbinije, reports @AdamZagoria.
A small forward makes sense.
Quote from: PTM on April 27, 2012, 02:23:16 PM
A small forward makes sense.
Nothing seems to make sense anymore....
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Michael-Gbinije-73310
Here you go.
That would be an IMMENSE transfer. Along with Hood, one of the biggest natural talents on the transfer wire. And along with Vandy, we're one of the biggest names on that list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNV9ixxPyU
Kid looks like a real talent. He would definitely create a nice 1-2 punch at the three spot with Deonte in 2013.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on April 27, 2012, 04:31:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNV9ixxPyU
Kid looks like a real talent. He would definitely create a nice 1-2 punch at the three spot with Deonte in 2013.
Rather than looking at the HS footage from last year that convinced Duke to offer him a scholarship, I'd rather see the practice footage from Duke this year that convinced Gbinije that there wasn't much playing time in his future at Duke.
Hood had a very good freshman season at Mississippi State. That's what makes him an awesome transfer prospect, and its what makes him a typical Louisville transfer. Louisville doesn't take kids that didn't get it done at their first stop. They take guys who proved themselves and want to move up a level in competition.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 27, 2012, 02:25:02 PM
Nothing seems to make sense anymore....
I agree, is this program a mess or is this how it works now? I don't follow any other teams, but the number of transfers/cuts is getting absurd.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 27, 2012, 04:51:21 PM
I agree, is this program a mess or is this how it works now? I don't follow any other teams, but the number of transfers/cuts is getting absurd.
Welcome to the world of the perennial top 25, non-bubble NCAA tournament teams.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 27, 2012, 04:42:20 PM
Rather than looking at the HS footage from last year that convinced Duke to offer him a scholarship, I'd rather see the practice footage from Duke this year that convinced Gbinije that there wasn't much playing time in his future at Duke.
Hood had a very good freshman season at Mississippi State. That's what makes him an awesome transfer prospect, and its what makes him a typical Louisville transfer. Louisville doesn't take kids that didn't get it done at their first stop. They take guys who proved themselves and want to move up a level in competition.
Ya you are right. If a kid is a consensus top 30 recruit that doesn't manage to break the rotation at Duke as a freshman we shouldn't consider him. Hood would be great too, but I just don't see him coming here.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 27, 2012, 04:57:23 PM
Welcome to the world of the perennial top 25, non-bubble NCAA tournament teams.
I think that's a cop out
Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 27, 2012, 04:51:21 PM
I agree, is this program a mess or is this how it works now? I don't follow any other teams, but the number of transfers/cuts is getting absurd.
Welcome to college basketball in 2012. There are more and more transfers every year and no program is immune.
Welcome to college basketball in 2012. There are more and more transfers every year and no program is immune.
...except Wisconsin...Oh, wait!
Quote from: LAZER on April 27, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
I think that's a cop out
Why is it a cop out? Kids transfer because CBB isn't about getting an education for top schools. Its about getting to the NBA, and if you can't break into the starting rotation at the school you are in, you get out so you can showcase your game.
College basketball is just an audition for the NBA and European leagues. If you can't accept it, then find a time machine and travel back to the 70s.
Jones leaving is because he is behind Vander and wilson and they are in the same class, and more then likely was going to be behind TJ and Juan. He knows he is never going to be a starter, would you want to work that hard for 4 years and not play? I'm happy that he can transfer somewhere and get playing time.
Why do people have a problem with this?
There are articles out there about the epidemic of transfers throughout college basketball. On the scout board, I think silverwarrior had stats a year ago that a suprisingly high percentage (40% IIRC, but I won't swear to that) of players finish their careers at a different school than they started. MU is not unusual; this isn't a Crean thing or a Buzz thing. Wiscy is the outlier for the low number of transfers.
Quote from: LAZER on April 27, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
I think that's a cop out
You think wrongly. Do some research.
Quote from: tower912 on April 27, 2012, 05:21:08 PM
You think wrongly. Do some research.
I'm not sure where to find it, but does anyone have a list of transfers from MU over the last 5-10 years compared to other schools?
I get that kids transfer a lot and it's inevitable but I'm not buying that MU's number of transfers is typical.
Quote from: tower912 on April 27, 2012, 05:21:08 PM
You think wrongly. Do some research.
CBS sportsline has the transfer list at 375+. Think about that for a moment. That's an average of more than one per school.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18443369/2012-end-of-year-updated-transfer-list-300-plus-and-growing
375 this year as of 4/10. More since then. MU's transfer rate is not higher than average.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-03-06-college-basketball-transfers_N.htm
Somewhere around 10% of all college basketball players transfer.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/college-basketball-transfers-linked-play-me-now-culture/2012/04/21/gIQAOw9OYT_story.html
The point is that other than the outlier of Crean losing his entire 03-04 recruiting class, MU's transfers out are not outside the norm.
Quote from: LAZER on April 27, 2012, 05:28:18 PM
I'm not sure where to find it, but does anyone have a list of transfers from MU over the last 5-10 years compared to other schools?
I get that kids transfer a lot and it's inevitable but I'm not buying that MU's number of transfers is typical.
If you think about the situation, MU is really not doing so bad. Buzz just completed year 4 of coaching, and only the third year where he had a chance to recruit before mid-April. He's had tremendous success the last two years with sweet sixteen runs. In three years he's gone from trying to fill a roster to trying to get guys who will allow him to sustain that type of success. There is going to be turnover. Probably would have been more with a lot of other coaches. After this year, Buzz should have a relatively stable roster where he's able to mostly recruit to fill positions that are opening due to graduations.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 27, 2012, 04:51:21 PM
I agree, is this program a mess or is this how it works now? I don't follow any other teams, but the number of transfers/cuts is getting absurd.
No. Since when did one transfer make a program a mess?
Quote from: Aughnanure on April 27, 2012, 08:39:48 PM
No. Since when did one transfer make a program a mess?
But there was one last year too!
Gbinge is a great kid. He really wanted to play at UNC but was told he was behind James Michael McAdoo on their prospect list. He attended several late Night with Roy events and a number of games but when McAdoo committed, there was no room and he somewhat reluctantly went to dook knowing that their system and style of play was not to his advantage despite having promises made (and not kept) by K.
He'd be a great addition at MU.
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on April 27, 2012, 09:45:11 PM
Gbinge is a great kid. He really wanted to play at UNC but was told he was behind James Michael McAdoo on their prospect list. He attended several late Night with Roy events and a number of games but when McAdoo committed, there was no room and he somewhat reluctantly went to dook knowing that their system and style of play was not to his advantage despite having promises made (and not kept) by K.
He'd be a great addition at MU.
Great. Thanks for the insight.
Per numerous Twitter sources, Gbiniji is currently visiting Syracuse and they are considered the favorite for him (report from SNYtv.com). Here's hoping he makes it out without committing.
Interesting that the Rivals write up out of high school cited Juan Anderson as a comparable skill set to his.....if they reached a high upper limit together that would be a helluva 1-2 punch!
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 27, 2012, 09:22:12 PM
But there was one last year too!
Two last year, possibly two this year, plus an incoming recruit 'released' from his NLI
Quote from: LAZER on April 28, 2012, 12:22:58 AM
Two last year, possibly two this year, plus an incoming recruit 'released' from his NLI
And they're all really killing the program and doing big things elsewhere. The horror!
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 27, 2012, 04:57:23 PM
Welcome to the world of the perennial top 25, non-bubble NCAA tournament teams.
What's gonzaga's excuse?
Transfer student here... Sometimes a school just isn't a fit. I did extremely well at both my previous school and while at Marquette. It was one of the better decisions I have made in my life.
There is a 10% transfer rate with basketball players. Have you seen national student retention rates? Most are around 80% retention. I cannot imagine my decision being analyzed this much. I certainly would not say it says anything about my previous institution, as I know many who loved it there, it simply did not work out for me.
Cut the kid a break. Cut Buzz a break.
That was short lived...Gbinije committed to Syracuse last night, per Alex Kline on Twitter.
Kevin O'Neil is indeed "special" ....
Any one who can used the F-Bomb as a verb, adjective, adverb, and noun all in the same sentence is a true linguist....
No one better.....
In practice?...
You must not have ever sat within 30 yards of him at a game.....
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 28, 2012, 06:36:56 AM
That was short lived...Gbinije committed to Syracuse last night, per Alex Kline on Twitter.
I wonder why Syracuse was not excluded, since they are going to ACC.
Quote from: bilsu on April 29, 2012, 08:23:31 PM
I wonder why Syracuse was not excluded, since they are going to ACC.
A big D'oh on their part.
Gbinije sits out Cuse's last year in BE and continues to finish up his career in the ACC.