http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/4/19/2959255/rivers-gets-emotional-during-postgame-pat-summit-tribute
Doc emotional last night about Summit's retirement. Great representative in Doc Rivers for Marquette University. Ubuntu.
Doc is a member of the BOT, the group of leaders that some here think will let MU basketball sink to the Mike Deane era ::)
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 19, 2012, 12:34:25 PM
Doc is a member of the BOT, the group of leaders that some here think will let MU basketball sink to the Mike Deane era ::)
See, this is where you're not doing yourself any favors. That was a nice story to pass on, and you could have very easily left it at that.
Bait people, then play the victim. Seen this script before.
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 19, 2012, 12:37:10 PM
See, this is where you're not doing yourself any favors. That was a nice story to pass on, and you could have very easily left it at that.
Bait people, then play the victim. Seen this script before.
Ignore it then. People are trashing MU as if Buzz Williams made MU. He didn't. MU has made some dumb moves over the years but also plenty of smart ones, including hiring Buzz. This article just shows some of the human beings on the BOT, they are people and good, smart people. Some posters here need to be reminded. Don't like it then ignore it.
It seems like just about every thread you post in becomes a pissing match, so it's a little hard to ignore.
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 19, 2012, 01:00:09 PM
It seems like just about every thread you post in becomes a pissing match, so it's a little hard to ignore.
um, weren't you the one that decided to turn this into a thread about Hoopaloop?
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 19, 2012, 12:34:25 PM
http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/4/19/2959255/rivers-gets-emotional-during-postgame-pat-summit-tribute
Doc emotional last night about Summit's retirement. Great representative in Doc Rivers for Marquette University. Ubuntu.
Doc is a member of the BOT, the group of leaders that some here think will let MU basketball sink to the Mike Deane era ::)
Chicos.
Back to the subject:
Pat Summit is one of my heroes. She is arguably the most groundbreaking figure in women's collegiate sports.
It's amazing to think how far women's sports have come in the last thirty years. She is only a few years older than me, but she was named head coach at UT while I was in junior high school in Nashville. In the early days, the team sold Krispy Kreme doughnuts to raise money for new uniforms. She had to take home the uniforms after games to wash them in her own washing machine.
She is likely the only female that has ever been considered for a head coaching position at a a D1 men's basketball program. Also probably the only female to have a D1 basketball court named in her honor.
And I am sure she and KO were BFFs when he was down there.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 19, 2012, 12:39:37 PM
Ignore it then. People are trashing MU as if Buzz Williams made MU. He didn't. MU has made some dumb moves over the years but also plenty of smart ones, including hiring Buzz. This article just shows some of the human beings on the BOT, they are people and good, smart people. Some posters here need to be reminded. Don't like it then ignore it.
Thanks Chicos for telling us all that Buzz did not make MU. Duh, thanks to you we all know that Tom Crean did
Warriorchick
+1
Sure KO and her were tight ;D
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 19, 2012, 12:39:37 PM
Ignore it then. People are trashing MU as if Buzz Williams made MU. He didn't. MU has made some dumb moves over the years but also plenty of smart ones, including hiring Buzz. This article just shows some of the human beings on the BOT, they are people and good, smart people. Some posters here need to be reminded. Don't like it then ignore it.
This is Exhibit A in why you have problems. You link an article about Doc Rivers getting emotional because a coaching legend (Pat Summit) has been forced to retire prematurely due to early onset Alzheimers. Poignant, sad, with thoughtful comments from Doc. Very much worth reading...Until...you twist it into something it isn't. You claim that the article "shows that some of the human beings on the BOT are people and good, smart people. Some posters need to be reminded." First of all, it proves nothing of the sort. Second, nobody has ever said that the BOT has no smart or good people on it. So nobody has to be reminded of something they would readily acknowledge. Red herring, and as 12 points out, an opportunity for you to indulge yourself in your two favorite sports - victimhood and board baiting. And we can like it or lump (ignore) it.
Quote from: warrior07 on April 19, 2012, 01:28:20 PM
Chicos.
You know what is revealing? My view of the Board of Trustees at MU is quite different than the person you imply I am. Look it up. He has no faith in them at all. I do. One of many differences between us but you keep going with your game.
The conspiracy lives with you and few others. I'm going to make t-shirts.
Some of us get emotional when our Warrriors nickname with ripped out of our very being.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 21, 2012, 10:49:51 AM
Some of us get emotional when our Warrriors nickname with ripped out of our very being.
Count me as one of those
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 21, 2012, 10:45:04 AM
You know what is revealing? My view of the Board of Trustees at MU is quite different than the person you imply I am. Look it up. He has no faith in them at all. I do. One of many differences between us but you keep going with your game.
The conspiracy lives with you and few others. I'm going to make t-shirts.
Surprising that you know, right off the top of your head, what a person you've met once feels about the Board of Trustees.
Deeply, deeply disturbed.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 21, 2012, 01:48:15 PM
Surprising that you know, right off the top of your head, what a person you've met once feels about the Board of Trustees.
Deeply, deeply disturbed.
musta been a hell of a beer summit.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 21, 2012, 10:45:04 AM
You know what is revealing? My view of the Board of Trustees at MU is quite different than the person you imply I am. Look it up. He has no faith in them at all. I do. One of many differences between us but you keep going with your game.
The conspiracy lives with you and few others. I'm going to make t-shirts.
I'm pretty sure I'm on record that "you" are two people. When this is eventually proved, I would like ever Scooper to write a letter to CSI to recommend me as a show consultant.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 21, 2012, 01:48:15 PM
Surprising that you know, right off the top of your head, what a person you've met once feels about the Board of Trustees.
Deeply, deeply disturbed.
Top of my head? Where did I say that?
This is a message board, not a chat room where people respond within seconds. Good try on your part, but once again the conspiracy theory fails you.
I've been reading this board for several years and recall a number of the contributors here railing on the Board of Trustees. I went back and looked at who they were with the search tool. Low and behold, your pal was one of them who ripped on them for Avenue Commons, the football team, the name change and other things.
I have a differing viewpoint. I hate the nickname change but the BOT has done some great things. Built up the athletic department, the new Engineering school, the new Dental school, buying up properties around campus to improve the safety for the students, etc.
If you want, I can go back and look up some of your comments like Novak's inability to move off the ball or shoot off the dribble. It doesn't have to be off the top of your head.
I'd like to acknowledge you have gone one post in a row to me without a homophobic slur. Let's see if you can keep that streak up in perpetuity.
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on April 21, 2012, 02:22:26 PM
musta been a hell of a beer summit.
To be forever known in the history books as the
Malta
Conference
Quote from: warriorchick on April 19, 2012, 02:10:02 PM
Back to the subject:
Pat Summit is one of my heroes. She is arguably the most groundbreaking figure in women's collegiate sports.
It's amazing to think how far women's sports have come in the last thirty years. She is only a few years older than me, but she was named head coach at UT while I was in junior high school in Nashville. In the early days, the team sold Krispy Kreme doughnuts to raise money for new uniforms. She had to take home the uniforms after games to wash them in her own washing machine.
She is likely the only female that has ever been considered for a head coaching position at a a D1 men's basketball program. Also probably the only female to have a D1 basketball court named in her honor.
And I am sure she and KO were BFFs when he was down there.
Warriorchick, you have that one right.
Pat Summitt was someone special. She packed 18,000 in at Knoxville and routinely outdrew the men's program. Tennesseans adored her team and the games with Vanderbilt were legendary.
Pat Summitt and Title IX made it possible for my daughter to play high school and college athletics and be taken seriously.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 25, 2012, 08:00:48 PM
Warriorchick, you have that one right.
Pat Summitt was someone special. She packed 18,000 in at Knoxville and routinely outdrew the men's program. Tennesseans adored her team and the games with Vanderbilt were legendary.
Pat Summitt and Title IX made it possible for my daughter to play high school and college athletics and be taken seriously.
dgies, remember the "girls' style" basketball back in the day in Tennessee? Three forwards, three guards. You weren't allowed to cross the half court line. I was a guard, so after I rebounded, I dribbled up to the line and passed it to a forward on the other side. Apparently they thought girls didn't have the stamina to play full court basketball.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 25, 2012, 10:10:15 AM
If you want, I can go back and look up some of your comments like Novak's inability to move off the ball or shoot off the dribble. It doesn't have to be off the top of your head.
Look them up all you want. They're all true. You can keep claiming otherwise and you'd continue to be wrong.
I'd try a different mix of meds. Life can get better for you!
Quote from: warriorchick on April 26, 2012, 07:59:29 AM
dgies, remember the "girls' style" basketball back in the day in Tennessee? Three forwards, three guards. You weren't allowed to cross the half court line. I was a guard, so after I rebounded, I dribbled up to the line and passed it to a forward on the other side. Apparently they thought girls didn't have the stamina to play full court basketball.
Yes, I do! It was so incredibly boring and sexist! Who said women can't play as hard and well as men. Heck, Pat Summitt's teams could probably beat the lower half of the SEC's mens squads in some years.
Iowa had the same program. Title IX changed both Tennessee and Iowa, which was great because I could never see a Tennessee woman basketball player getting a scholarship top play in college under the old rules.
Pat has been a trailblazer and she's the John Wooden of Women's College Basketball.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 26, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
Heck, Pat Summitt's teams could probably beat the lower half of the SEC's mens squads in some years.
Not to be sexist or anything (whereupon I will necessarily follow with a sexist statement), but Pat Summitt's teams couldn't beat an average high school boys basketball team.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 26, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
Yes, I do! It was so incredibly boring and sexist! Who said women can't play as hard and well as men. Heck, Pat Summitt's teams could probably beat the lower half of the SEC's mens squads in some years.
Iowa had the same program. Title IX changed both Tennessee and Iowa, which was great because I could never see a Tennessee woman basketball player getting a scholarship top play in college under the old rules.
Pat has been a trailblazer and she's the John Wooden of Women's College Basketball.
I sure hope this was hyperbole! A decent city high school men's basketball team would beat the WNBA champs 9 times out of 10.
That being said, Pat Summitt was a phenomemal coach and role model for the game of basketball (not just women't basketball).
Quote from: jmayer1 on April 26, 2012, 03:33:05 PM
I sure hope this was hyperbole! A decent city high school men's basketball team would beat the WNBA champs 9 times out of 10.
That being said, Pat Summitt was a phenomemal coach and role model for the game of basketball (not just women't basketball).
There aren't any WNBA teams that are coached by Pat Summit.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 26, 2012, 07:59:29 AM
dgies, remember the "girls' style" basketball back in the day in Tennessee? Three forwards, three guards. You weren't allowed to cross the half court line. I was a guard, so after I rebounded, I dribbled up to the line and passed it to a forward on the other side. Apparently they thought girls didn't have the stamina to play full court basketball.
That's pretty nuts. I had no idea this occured.
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 26, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
Not to be sexist or anything (whereupon I will necessarily follow with a sexist statement), but Pat Summitt's teams couldn't beat an average high school boys basketball team.
You know not of what you speak.
Pat Summitt's teams were well coached. Period. Certainly, they could have been a challenge to more than a few bad Mississippi State, Mississippi, LSU and Auburn teams of the time. No, 9 times out 10 they were not going to beat most of them, though it might have been interesting to see Candice Parker post up against Charles Barkley.
OK, I'm laughing pretty hard when the round mound of rebound gets taken out by Ms. Parker!
Look, Ms. Summitt is the John Wooden of Women's Ball. Anyone who fails to see what she did is sexist and doesn't have a daughter!
Quote from: MarsupialMadness on April 26, 2012, 03:41:28 PM
That's pretty nuts. I had no idea this occured.
A lot of States played that way before Title IX in 1977. Tennessee did it and it was a joke. People like Warriorchick never had a chance to get a college basketball scholarship because the sport discriminated against them by not letting them become complete ballplayers.
After Title IX, the last holdouts to antiquated six-person basketball were Tennessee and Iowa. The latter held out until about 1981, when they realized Iowa women would not get college scholarships unless they changed their ways. Even then, the Iowa Girls Athletic Association held out and only VERY reluctantly gave into the reality of the changing way we view women. Well, as they say about Iowa, "Where 21st century technology meets 19th century mindsets!"
Full Disclosure: Warriorchick and I were graduated from the same high school in Tennessee, a few years apart!
Quote from: warriorchick on April 26, 2012, 03:41:08 PM
There aren't any WNBA teams that are coached by Pat Summit.
I'm aware of that, I didn't say there were.
Any of Summitt's Tennessee teams<<<<WNBA champs
Any decent city HS boys team<<<<any lower level SEC mens team
WNBA champs<<Any decent city HS boys team
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 26, 2012, 03:52:21 PM
A lot of States played that way before Title IX in 1977. Tennessee did it and it was a joke. People like Warriorchick never had a chance to get a college basketball scholarship because the sport discriminated against them by not letting them become complete ballplayers.
After Title IX, the last holdouts to antiquated six-person basketball were Tennessee and Iowa. The latter held out until about 1981, when they realized Iowa women would not get college scholarships unless they changed their ways. Even then, the Iowa Girls Athletic Association held out and only VERY reluctantly gave into the reality of the changing way we view women. Well, as they say about Iowa, "Where 21st century technology meets 19th century mindsets!"
Full Disclosure: Warriorchick and I were graduated from the same high school in Tennessee, a few years apart!
Yeah, that is exactly why I didn't get a college hoops scholarship
I never went past junior high for basketball. Holy Rosary in the House!!
But seriously, they never even coached the girls to be agressive. After the first time my dad saw me play, he took me under the basketball goal in our driveway and taught me how to box out. The next game, I pulled down 15 rebounds -- and that is playing 4 six-minute quarters.
When you were a guard in Tennessee girls' basketball, rebounds were about the only stat you had. Steals were pretty rare, but there were usually about 25 jump balls per game. :-P
Quote from: jmayer1 on April 26, 2012, 03:58:47 PM
I'm aware of that, I didn't say there were.
Any of Summitt's Tennessee teams<<<<WNBA champs
Any decent city HS boys team<<<<any lower level SEC mens team
WNBA champs<<Any decent city HS boys team
You missed my point. Who knows how good a WNBA team would be if it were coached by Pat Summit.
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 26, 2012, 03:46:29 PM
You know not of what you speak.
I know quite well of what I speak. At their zenith, Pat Summitt grabbed men off campus to practice against. Nobody over 6' allowed and nobody with high school experience. The men had additional restrictions on their game that the women didn't have and still occasionally beat them. There was a story about it in SI several years back.
When I was in 8th grade my coach knew a girls high school coach. My grade school team was pretty terrible (something like 4-10) and the girls team would eventually be the high school state runners up. We scrimmaged them to help them get ready for the state tournament and we had to quit the game because the girls couldn't get a shot to the rim. I want you to understand that the girls team was dominant, winning a game 99-2 during their season (they could have won 150-0 if they wanted to) and had 2 D-I players on the team. I understand women are talented and getting better every year, but the athleticism and size to compete with men just isn't there yet.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 26, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
You missed my point. Who knows how good a WNBA team would be if it were coached by Pat Summit.
Haha, sorry, yes I did. Very good point. But my point still stands regardless of who was roaming the sidelines.
I usually don't write about sports on my personal blog (it's mostly humor - or at least an attempt at it), but the Pat Summit conversation inspired me. Take a look if you'd like.
http://skinnyblondeoprah.wordpress.com/
Quote from: warriorchick on April 26, 2012, 06:16:05 PM
I usually don't write about sports on my personal blog (it's mostly humor - or at least an attempt at it), but the Pat Summit conversation inspired me. Take a look if you'd like.
http://skinnyblondeoprah.wordpress.com/
I do take offense with your nomination of Barbara Streisand as a worthy Christmas singer...Der Bingle 100% of the time!
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 26, 2012, 03:46:29 PM
You know not of what you speak.
Pat Summitt's teams were well coached. Period. Certainly, they could have been a challenge to more than a few bad Mississippi State, Mississippi, LSU and Auburn teams of the time. No, 9 times out 10 they were not going to beat most of them, though it might have been interesting to see Candice Parker post up against Charles Barkley.
OK, I'm laughing pretty hard when the round mound of rebound gets taken out by Ms. Parker!
Look, Ms. Summitt is the John Wooden of Women's Ball. Anyone who fails to see what she did is sexist and doesn't have a daughter!
I'm sorry, but no, summitt's teams could not have beaten sec mens teams.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 26, 2012, 02:55:48 PM
Look them up all you want. They're all true. You can keep claiming otherwise and you'd continue to be wrong.
I'd try a different mix of meds. Life can get better for you!
So to reiterate, I said nothing of the kind that it was on the top of my head like implied.
Two posts in a row without homophobic comments, but you are back to telling people they have mental issues if you don't agree with them or if they catch you saying something that isn't true. The irony is that your comments actually are the symptom of a mental condition in your actions to rare back and diminish others.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 28, 2012, 12:52:15 PM
So to reiterate, I said nothing of the kind that it was on the top of my head like implied.
Two posts in a row without homophobic comments, but you are back to telling people they have mental issues if you don't agree with them or if they catch you saying something that isn't true. The irony is that your comments actually are the symptom of a mental condition in your actions to rare back and diminish others.
Disagreeing with me is fine. I love a good argument! I'm telling you have mental issues because you do. You sit here day after day claiming to be somebody you're not. There is a team of moderators who decided months ago that the board was better off without you. Hard to disagree with that. Yet you invent personas and sign up under different names to circumvent that fact. And not just on this board. It's a pattern of behavior. I'm not psychologist, but I'd say you're screaming for assistance.
If you had a neighbor you couldn't stand...told him to stay away and never stop by for beers before going to Disneyland...and he continued to show up in your backyard, but called himself by a different name...would you think this guy was normal?
By the way, your continued reference to homophobia amuses me to no end. Is it supposed to bother me? Considering I'm not running for office, you're welcome to attach any level of "homophobia" to me. Bring it on! Not only does it not bother me in the least, it is eerily similar to your feud with Dodds when you continued to reference his statement regarding Crean and cancer? You sure can beat a dead horse! Another sign of mental illness. Get the straight jackets, if they come in little boy sizes.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 28, 2012, 01:18:38 PM
If you had a neighbor you couldn't stand...told him to stay away and never stop by for beers before going to Disneyland...and he continued to show up in your backyard, but called himself by a different name...would you think this guy was normal?
Classic. I can picture The Bail Bondsman with the Nose Glasses...