According to Mark Miller his AAU coach said he is visiting today and tomorrow. So was that him in the picture with buzz?
I think it was confirmed that was in Minnesota on a home visit.
Of course that was Buzz and Lockett in the picture.
Ok thanks cheebs. I must have missed that.
According to Mark Miller, down to Marquette, Gonzaga and Iowa State.
Gonzaga?? I thought he wanted to be closer to home?
If Uthoff ends up at ISU, would they still have an opening for Lockett?
I have a good feeling about this
He is graduating in a month so he can play next year where ever he decides to go. He does not need to get the hardship waiver. I also have a good feeling about this.
Quote from: LAZER on April 20, 2012, 10:20:37 AM
I have a good feeling about this
Sure that's not just gas?
Juan changing his Twitter Wallpaper from one displaying a Marquette theme to a generic wallpaper may mean nothing (he was bored with his old one) or we are losing him and acquiring Lockett.
Quote from: MtAiryGoldenEagle on April 20, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Juan changing his Twitter Wallpaper from one displaying a Marquette theme to a generic wallpaper may mean nothing (he was bored with his old one) or we are losing him and acquiring Lockett.
I really hope that is far from the truth. I really do. If we have to sacrifice someone, I really hope its not him.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 20, 2012, 11:40:04 AM
I really hope that is far from the truth. I really do. If we have to sacrifice someone, I really hope its not him.
+10000
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 20, 2012, 11:40:04 AM
I really hope that is far from the truth. I really do. If we have to sacrifice someone, I really hope its not him.
You'd sacrifice losing Juan for one of the starters or Quasi-Starters??
Sacrifice might not be the correct word. If it is him maybe he wants to go.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 20, 2012, 11:40:04 AM
I really hope that is far from the truth. I really do. If we have to sacrifice someone, I really hope its not him.
+1000000
The thing with Juan is that even if things never quite "clicked" for him in all his years here, he's the type of player who would still be remarkably important to a team. At worst, a guy with his size, athleticism, and effort would be an important 6th or 7th man by the time he was an upperclassman. But most of all, from what I've been able to tell, thats a guy who as he matures into a leader, sets the tone for a program. Even if he gets passed up by some younger guys in the rotation, his attitude and enthusiasm for getting better and helping the team has been remarkable up to this point. - I'm not saying I don't think he would ever mature into a hell of player, because I definitely do - more just pointing out why I really hope he doesnt leave even in the "worst case arc" for him from where we stand today.
Quote from: muguru on April 20, 2012, 11:44:19 AM
You'd sacrifice losing Juan for one of the starters or Quasi-Starters??
That's not what I said. I just don't want Juan to transfer. He is going to be an integral part of the squad for the next three years. I think where the scholarship should come from is very obvious. I hope Buzz agrees.
And for whoever said Juan may want to go, this is true. But Buzz should do whatever he can to keep him on board. He recruited the kid once, he can talk him into staying around. I know Juan wanted more PT last year as was frustrated at times, but his role is going to expand significantly next season.
Really? How many here would just gut it out if your goal was to play in the Association, given the lack of court time Juan earned?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 20, 2012, 12:10:32 PM
Really? How many here would just gut it out if your goal was to play in the Association, given the lack of court time Juan earned?
I'd definitely want an assessment from Buzz. Am I going to get 15-20 mpg or more next year? If so, he can start contributing and get a chance to make the league. Obviously Marquette is a good place to go if you want to get to the next level, but with the talent on this team, not every freshman is going to come in and have an instant impact.
If I were Juan, I would still see an opportunity to make a jump. Before the Florida game, he had played in 14 of the previous 15 games, and played some meaningful minutes in there. I'd be far more worried if I were in Jamail's shoes, who had more DNPs over that time period with an additional year of experience. It seems like Juan passed him in the rotation already, and with DJO and Crowder leaving, he should move further up.
No, Juan won't likely start, but at the switchable positions (2-4) who's really ahead of him? Mayo, Blue, Jamil, all of those are pretty clear, but those are also likely starters. Lockett if he comes in, but who else? Juan could very well be first or second off the bench at 3 positions. If I were in his shoes, I'd give it at least another year because time already started opening up and should open more so with a full year in the system. If he doesn't see an opportunity a year from now, then I'd start thinking about transferring, but at this point, where will he find a place with a better track record of putting guys in the league than Marquette and where he can contribute immediately next year?
I think Steve Taylor takes whatever minutes were gonna be available to Juan.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2012, 12:22:39 PM
I'd definitely want an assessment from Buzz. Am I going to get 15-20 mpg or more next year? If so, he can start contributing and get a chance to make the league. Obviously Marquette is a good place to go if you want to get to the next level, but with the talent on this team, not every freshman is going to come in and have an instant impact.
If I were Juan, I would still see an opportunity to make a jump. Before the Florida game, he had played in 14 of the previous 15 games, and played some meaningful minutes in there. I'd be far more worried if I were in Jamail's shoes, who had more DNPs over that time period with an additional year of experience. It seems like Juan passed him in the rotation already, and with DJO and Crowder leaving, he should move further up.
No, Juan won't likely start, but at the switchable positions (2-4) who's really ahead of him? Mayo, Blue, Jamil, all of those are pretty clear, but those are also likely starters. Lockett if he comes in, but who else? Juan could very well be first or second off the bench at 3 positions. If I were in his shoes, I'd give it at least another year because time already started opening up and should open more so with a full year in the system. If he doesn't see an opportunity a year from now, then I'd start thinking about transferring, but at this point, where will he find a place with a better track record of putting guys in the league than Marquette and where he can contribute immediately next year?
Do you think Buzz (or any coach for that matter) is going to tell any player that? The answer would be "you'll get whatever minutes you earn."
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 20, 2012, 12:26:23 PM
I think Steve Taylor takes whatever minutes were gonna be available to Juan.
Maybe so, maybe not, but I sure wouldn't transfer out of fear of that were I in his shoes. Juan was a higher rated recruit coming in than Taylor is now, he's had time to acclimate to the system and improve his strength and conditioning, and if he has any confidence in himself, I imagine he expects he'll be able to get minutes ahead of the incoming freshmen.
I'm not saying it's impossible that he goes, but I think it would be a really odd decision from him at this point. I think there are at least 2-3 other guys I'd see transferring out before I'd guess Juan.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 20, 2012, 12:29:57 PM
Do you think Buzz (or any coach for that matter) is going to tell any player that? The answer would be "you'll get whatever minutes you earn."
I know for a fact many coaches do...had friends, kids I coached, etc. play at that level and there was always talk of minutes. It was usually followed up with a, "of course nothing is in stone, and you'll have to earn it" but coaches have their depth chart...
Quote from: avid1010 on April 20, 2012, 12:35:26 PM
I know for a fact many coaches do...had friends, kids I coached, etc. play at that level and there was always talk of minutes. It was usually followed up with a, "of course nothing is in stone, and you'll have to earn it" but coaches have their depth chart...
sooo...pretty much what I said. you'll get what you earn.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 20, 2012, 12:29:57 PM
Do you think Buzz (or any coach for that matter) is going to tell any player that? The answer would be "you'll get whatever minutes you earn."
But I think Buzz would give him an honest assessment. Even if it's saying "I project you playing the big switchable roles, there's 80 mpg at those positions, and right now you'd have to make up a lot of ground to start, but could be first off the bench". Of course he won't give a guarantee or a definite, but is Buzz going to brush him off with a "you'll get whatever minutes you earn" comment?
In addition, Buzz hasn't seemed to have a problem with transfers out before. He understands they happen. I really believe he's going to do what he thinks is best for the kid. And my guess is right now what's best for Juan's development as a player and person is at Marquette. Especially as this is a kid Buzz found personally and really liked his game from the start, and a kid who has seemed as dedicated to Marquette as any we've had in the past while.
I just don't see him leaving yet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can think of at least 4 guys I think would be more likely to leave than Juan.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2012, 12:43:45 PM
But I think Buzz would give him an honest assessment. Even if it's saying "I project you playing the big switchable roles, there's 80 mpg at those positions, and right now you'd have to make up a lot of ground to start, but could be first off the bench". Of course he won't give a guarantee or a definite, but is Buzz going to brush him off with a "you'll get whatever minutes you earn" comment?
In addition, Buzz hasn't seemed to have a problem with transfers out before. He understands they happen. I really believe he's going to do what he thinks is best for the kid. And my guess is right now what's best for Juan's development as a player and person is at Marquette. Especially as this is a kid Buzz found personally and really liked his game from the start, and a kid who has seemed as dedicated to Marquette as any we've had in the past while.
I just don't see him leaving yet. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can think of at least 4 guys I think would be more likely to leave than Juan.
I agree that he doesn't seem the most likely candidate to leave -- if all you are considering is results on the court. He's got to be the furthest from home of anybody on the team (except maybe D Wilson) so that might factor into it in a big way, who knows? They are young kids still.
Buzz is a great motivator. I have a hard time believing that he's going to promise any role to a bench player who's trying to break into the rotation. He wants them busting tail every day to get better and earn it. Promising anything is counter-productive to that IMO.
Not sure why he would be interested in Iowa state, they are going to SUCK next year without Royce White. Saw them from the front row in the NCAas n he was the entire team
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 20, 2012, 01:01:28 PM
Not sure why he would be interested in Iowa state, they are going to SUCK next year without Royce White. Saw them from the front row in the NCAas n he was the entire team
So there will be plenty of playing time available
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 20, 2012, 12:57:43 PM
I agree that he doesn't seem the most likely candidate to leave -- if all you are considering is results on the court. He's got to be the furthest from home of anybody on the team (except maybe D Wilson) so that might factor into it in a big way, who knows? They are young kids still.
Buzz is a great motivator. I have a hard time believing that he's going to promise any role to a bench player who's trying to break into the rotation. He wants them busting tail every day to get better and earn it. Promising anything is counter-productive to that IMO.
I'm not.
Quote from: Bocephys on April 20, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
So there will be plenty of playing time available
I don't think Lockett is real concerned with time available. He is going to play, and likely start, on any team he transfers to unless he decides to go to UK or something.
So to recap - it seems like there is too much smoke and continuous recruiting for nothing to change on the roster for next year. And since whoever isn't coming back probably already knows it, the candidates (with the reasons why) seem to be one or more of:
- Durley (senior year performance, coach article, Buzz interview)
- Juan (twitter background - which for most wouldn't be a huge deal, but with Juan's enthusiasm for the program given his changing the high school uni and socks, etc, might be a bigger concern than most - and his distance from home, and potential frustration with progress/PT last year)
- Vander (PR issues, feeds into speculation about Buzz v. Administration)
- Jamail (was highly recruited out of HS, seems most obvious candidate for purely basketball reasons after falling behind Juan this season and possibly having been recruited over for this and upcoming seasons)
- Chris (depends on his decision for a sixth year, although this wouldn't open up a schollie for this upcoming season)
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 20, 2012, 12:10:32 PM
Really? How many here would just gut it out if your goal was to play in the Association, given the lack of court time Juan earned?
Transferring is not going to help Juan get to the NBA.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 20, 2012, 12:29:57 PM
Do you think Buzz (or any coach for that matter) is going to tell any player that? The answer would be "you'll get whatever minutes you earn."
really an ignorant statement ...coaches have meeting with the players and assess where they stand and what they need to do to get more time. Happens all the time and at all levels. I guarantee they have had end of season review meting and have projected where they are on the depth charts and what they need to show to move up for the next year and year projected forward
often times based on that players see that they are caught in a number game...that is too many better players ahead of them. And they want to go else where and play. i assure you 99% percent of transfers are players seeing the writing on the wall and transfer because they simply want to play whether they agree with the assessment or not. The kids are rarely forced out.
Case in point Buzz would have loved for Eric Willimas to have stuck around. A junior to provide a backup for Otule, Devante, Jamil and Jae. Well being the 3rd string center and the 3rd string PF did not appeal to Eric as he entered his Junior year so he chose to go some where where he knew he could play and best have the opportuntiy to showcase any skills for an opportunity for basketball after college.
As it turns out Buzz would have loved to have him as he would have been the one on the court this year at the 4 or 5 instaed of Jamail and Juan. And i dont think anyone can argue Eric would have been a better 4 and 5 then those guys were. However, he chose to leave. He was not cut he was not forced out, he saw he was 3rd string at two positions as a junior and chose to leave. That is how it works. Not "you'll get whatever minutes you earn."
Quote from: Bocephys on April 20, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
So there will be plenty of playing time available
ahh plenty of time available at Arizona state tooo. Duh, clearly transfering as an opportunity to better showcase himself and get a chance to win
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 20, 2012, 02:06:17 PM
ahh plenty of time available at Arizona state tooo. Duh, clearly transfering as an opportunity to better showcase himself and get a chance to win
I thought he was transferring, in part, because he wanted to be closer to home since his mother is sick. Ames is closer to the Twin Cities than Milwaukee is.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 20, 2012, 09:59:20 AM
According to Mark Miller, down to Marquette, Gonzaga and Iowa State.
So much for his mother's illness being a concern.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 20, 2012, 11:07:52 AM
Sure that's not just gas?
He's not talking nitrous oxide, if that's what you mean.
Quote from: Bocephys on April 20, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
So there will be plenty of playing time available
If he wanted guaranteed playing time on a sucky team, he could just stay where he is.
Lockett signs on with MU. Immediately takes DJO's spot. Mayo not happy with that, considering he was logical choice to start and get playing time/status as starter.
Could this happen? Didn't Todd have some issues with playing time earlier in the year and the staff had to sit down with him? Just putting out there. I for one do not want that to happen, Mayo is a player.....
Quote from: nyg on April 20, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
Lockett signs on with MU. Immediately takes DJO's spot. Mayo not happy with that, considering he was logical choice to start and get playing time/status as starter.
Could this happen? Didn't Todd have some issues with playing time earlier in the year and the staff had to sit down with him? Just putting out there. I for one do not want that to happen, Mayo is a player.....
If Lockett takes a spot, it's one that I'm assuming Buzz already knows will be vacant. We are full up for 2012-13, and I don't think he'd over-recruit a situation that would force Mayo out.
Someone isn't going to be back next year, Buzz is aware, Buzz is taking action to have the highest quality roster for next year and keep all scholarships full. Granted, those are all assumptions, but I'd wager my paycheck that Buzz knew which scholarship Lockett would be using before he even made first contact.
Quote from: nyg on April 20, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
Lockett signs on with MU. Immediately takes DJO's spot. Mayo not happy with that, considering he was logical choice to start and get playing time/status as starter.
Could this happen? Didn't Todd have some issues with playing time earlier in the year and the staff had to sit down with him? Just putting out there. I for one do not want that to happen, Mayo is a player.....
Let's hope not. Mayo in my view is one of the Top 3 players on next year's squad..and I look for him to be a starter, regardless of Lockett's arrival.
Quote from: Ners on April 20, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
Let's hope not. Mayo in my view is one of the Top 3 players on next year's squad..and I look for him to be a starter, regardless of Lockett's arrival.
Unfortunately for Mayo he's pretty old already as it is and sitting out a year only hurts his chances of being drafted, if that is in fact his ultimate goal.
With Blue, Mayo and TJ Taylor set to split time at the 2/3 I don't see a real need for Lockett. Hope I'm wrong, but if we end up with Lockett it's likely a) Buzz thinks TJ isn't ready or b) Blue, Mayo or TJ won't be here.
Mayo will prolly get more playing time next year than vander. He has nothing to worry about.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 20, 2012, 02:24:34 PM
I thought he was transferring, in part, because he wanted to be closer to home since his mother is sick. Ames is closer to the Twin Cities than Milwaukee is.
Not by airplane.