transfers left and right (at least that is what they would say about MU).
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/147254835.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/147254835.html)
He got Bojangled
So he redshirted this year and is now transferring? Wonder if he'll go Juco to be able to play next year since he will have to sit out at a D1 school and it'll still use eligibility.
But Bo is not like those other coaches that just run kids off.
I thought that kid was the proof of Bo's excellent recruiting. UW is getting good at signing the 4-star kids from the middle of nowhere and then having them go...well...nowhere.
Yet another player Boned.
Quote from: Stone Cold on April 12, 2012, 10:37:55 PM
Yet another player Boned.
Deservedly so. Reports out of Madison contend that he just couldn't bring himself to grab the arm of opposing players when getting in rebounding position, or to spend the necessary hours in the gym diving on the floor to perfect a passable flop.
Amazing. Top recruit of 2011 leaving the program.
Come to MU and sting Bo!
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 12, 2012, 11:40:48 PM
Amazing. Top recruit of 2011 leaving the program.
Come to MU and sting Bo!
No way that'll happen (and I wouldn't want it to happen). Marquette will undoubtably be on the list of schools they will restrict him from transferring to. Rumor is they have an absurd list of restrictions on his release, including Big 10 teams (obvious), Marquette (obvious), and Big 12 teams (what?!). Apparently they're basically limiting the Midwest schools he can attend to low-major Illinois-directional schools and Creighton.
But Bo wouldn't do that, he's a Saint!
No is a whining piece of sh1t.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 12, 2012, 11:43:43 PM
No way that'll happen (and I wouldn't want it to happen). Marquette will undoubtably be on the list of schools they will restrict him from transferring to. Rumor is they have an absurd list of restrictions on his release, including Big 10 teams (obvious), Marquette (obvious), and Big 12 teams (what?!). Apparently they're basically limiting the Midwest schools he can attend to low-major Illinois-directional schools and Creighton.
But Bo wouldn't do that, he's a Saint!
Go SLU, young man.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 12, 2012, 11:52:42 PM
Go SLU, young man.
Hah fair enough. Was just paraphrasing what his former AAU coach had to say about it in an article about the restrictions on his release.
Plus I was always taught that the St. Louis Arch was built to welcome people who were migrating from the East to the West. So SLU should be considered the West, not Midwest ;)
Really, though, no Big12? frack Bo.
I guess he's worried Iowa State is going to catch UW in the polls.
What's a "preferred" walk-on?
I accept that players transfer. I hope it works out for this kid. The only thing that makes this interesting is the hypocrisy of the badger fans. If the same thing happened at MU, it would of course be do some failing of the school or coach. Here, it is obviously due to a failing of the player to appreciate the awesomeness around him. And, if there should be a transfer from MU, that will be on full display.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on April 13, 2012, 05:44:44 AM
What's a "preferred" walk-on?
A walk-on that us guaranteed a spot ... he does not have to "make the team."
Quote from: QuetteHoops on April 13, 2012, 08:06:25 AM
Jake Thomas
Actually, its the opposite of Jake Thomas. They walk-on the first year or two, and then get a scholarship afterwards.
Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2012, 06:18:32 AM
If the same thing happened at MU, it would of course be do some failing of the school or coach. Here, it is obviously due to a failing of the player to appreciate the awesomeness around him. And, if there should be a transfer from MU, that will be on full display.
To be fair, this looks way more like it is the player's call than at MU. I don't think anyone at Madison is relieved he is transferring. On the flip side, look at how excited this board got the day a schollie coincidentally opened the same day Jamil Wilson said he was transferring.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on April 13, 2012, 08:33:39 AM
On the flip side, look at how excited this board got the day a schollie coincidentally opened the same day Jamil Wilson said he was transferring.
Well, I think a number of people were pretty uncomfortable with that. And a few others made incredible leaps in logic to justify it in their minds.
I think the kid just was scared he'd be sitting behind Dekker for four years. I hope he doesnt mind going the JuCo route (must be a bad apple) or a place like SLU/Creighton/UNI because I really doubt the reports of high majors being interested.
Ulthoff, regardless of whether he was rated a 4-star player, certainly looked like he had a LONG way to go from his highlight video (that included a missed alley oop dunk!) I'd tend to think he ends up at a mid major - even if there were not restrictions put on him as to where he could transfer - as he's said he wants to play. Don't see him being a high major player.
On another note - anyone see this blog on Matt Thomas - a kid we are said to have offered (yet in the blog Potrykus makes no mention of MU being involved?) Thomas's comments about UW are fun to read..
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/146496655.html
Quote from: Ners on April 13, 2012, 08:53:34 AM
On another note - anyone see this blog on Matt Thomas - a kid we are said to have offered (yet in the blog Potrykus makes no mention of MU being involved?) Thomas's comments about UW are fun to read..
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/146496655.html
Everything I have heard about Thomas indicates that mutual interest no longer exists. Not sure who pulled the plug.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on April 13, 2012, 08:33:39 AM
On the flip side, look at how excited this board got the day a schollie coincidentally opened the same day Jamil Wilson said he was transferring.
not true...and where would we have been this year without J. Wilson with the injuries to Otule and Gardner!
I seem to remember that the Newbill discussion took up most of the board, even after we found out Jamil Wilson transferred. I even remember a thread reminding people that as a result of that even though the situation didn't look great, we should at least be happy that Wilson was going to be at MU.
Sounds like he's Ohio Valley/MAC/Missouri Valley bound, if he wants immediate playing time and doesn't want to "sit for two years and then maybe play my junior an senior years."
I think it's fair to say that this kid was not boned(like Markolf) but what i find interesting is that he redshirted this season and now he will burn a year in the transfer leaving him only 3 years of elgibility.
How bad do you have to want to get out of there to do that?
Quote from: madtownwarrior on April 12, 2012, 09:00:58 PM
transfers left and right (at least that is what they would say about MU).
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/147254835.html (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/147254835.html)
There was more than 1?
This kid left on his own and Wisconsin isn't thrilled about it. He wasn't Creaned, Buzzcut, Calipraried, or Calhouned
BTW, his release was granted today.
Uthoff will be required to sit out next season if he transfers to another NCAA Division I program. He would then have three seasons of eligibility remaining.
UW coach Bo Ryan raved about Uthoff shortly after practice for the 2011-12 season began last October. Uthoff, who was named Iowa's Mr. Basketball and Gatorade Player of the Year after averaging 26.2 points, 11.2 rebounds and 3.2 blocks per game during his senior season at Cedar Rapids Jefferson High School, had impressed Ryan with his ability to pick up things quickly during the first week of practice.
"He'll play at the University of Wisconsin," Ryan said at the time. "And he'll play early. He's a player. Better than I expected, but don't tell him I said that. ... "
"Coaches like good listeners, fast learners, and I've never seen a more conscientious guy. He's extremely conscientious."
But Uthoff never did play for the Badgers. The 6-foot- 8, 200-pound forward struggled with the decision of whether or not to redshirt but ultimately decided that he needed to get stronger to compete in the rugged Big Ten Conference.
http://www.postcrescent.com/article/20120412/WIS020102/120412126/UW-men-s-basketball-Uthoff-leaving-program?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cs
Bucky's5Quarter contends the possible reason is his slotted time as a projected PF instead of a WF.
http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2012/4/12/2945109/uthoff-granted-scholarship-release
Quote from: Ners on April 13, 2012, 08:53:34 AM
Ulthoff, regardless of whether he was rated a 4-star player, certainly looked like he had a LONG way to go from his highlight video (that included a missed alley oop dunk!) I'd tend to think he ends up at a mid major - even if there were not restrictions put on him as to where he could transfer - as he's said he wants to play. Don't see him being a high major player.
On another note - anyone see this blog on Matt Thomas - a kid we are said to have offered (yet in the blog Potrykus makes no mention of MU being involved?) Thomas's comments about UW are fun to read..
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/146496655.html
I remember the discussion about Bucky landing him and that we landed Juan and there was at least one poster with apoplexy about the fact that Bucky had landed a 4 star. I watched Ulthoff's highlight video back-to-back with Juan's and it looked like they were filmed at different speeds. Juan was so much quicker. Hope the kid finds a good spot to land.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 13, 2012, 12:44:20 PM
There was more than 1?
This kid left on his own and Wisconsin isn't thrilled about it. He wasn't Creaned, Buzzcut, Calipraried, or Calhouned
(http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/564245_o.gif)
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 13, 2012, 12:44:20 PM
There was more than 1?
This kid left on his own and Wisconsin isn't thrilled about it. He wasn't Creaned, Buzzcut, Calipraried, or Calhouned
Fair enough. What about the restriction that he cannot transfer to a Big 12 school? Big 10 is obvious as is Marquette, but another conference that you do not even play in? Have never heard of Crean, Buzz, Calipari, or Calhoun pulling that one.
Maybe that is why nobody ever leaves.....they can't go anywhere interesting.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2012, 01:45:33 PM
Fair enough. What about the restriction that he cannot transfer to a Big 12 school? Big 10 is obvious as is Marquette, but another conference that you do not even play in? Have never heard of Crean, Buzz, Calipari, or Calhoun pulling that one.
Is that restriction true? Some internet speculation but we should see if it comes to pass. If it does, that would seem severe to me and not surprising since Bo can be a jerk. If it if for the good of the kid's future, he would let him go wherever but that isn't all the game is played with transfers.
The perception out there is that Crean, Buzz, Calhoun, Caliprari, Pitino run off players to open up scholarships. No one here can deny this. Some fans find that wrong, some fans do not. Wisconsin didn't run off this player. He and Dekker were a big part of their future plans.
The speculation is that it is Marquette, the Big Ten, and some schools in the Big 12 - particularly Iowa State. There is talk that he might end up at Kansas State with Bruce Weber, or at UNI.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 13, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
The speculation is that it is Marquette, the Big Ten, and some schools in the Big 12 - particularly Iowa State. There is talk that he might end up at Kansas State with Bruce Weber, or at UNI.
Only thing I can think of that would make any Big 12 restrictions fair would be that UW had reasons to believe some of the schools were tampering IMO. If they got word Utoff was visiting some Iowa schools over Spring Break, I would explore blocking those options. Though, I would probably just let him go as long as it isn't a Big 10 school.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 13, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
The speculation is that it is Marquette, the Big Ten, and some schools in the Big 12 - particularly Iowa State. There is talk that he might end up at Kansas State with Bruce Weber, or at UNI.
If the Iowa State thing is true, it's pretty clear to me that they didn't want him to be able to play at a high major program in his home state. Is there a reason for that other than pettiness?
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 13, 2012, 05:46:07 PM
If the Iowa State thing is true, it's pretty clear to me that they didn't want him to be able to play at a high major program in his home state. Is there a reason for that other than pettiness?
You need to have some bud lights with Bo at his crib before he endorses a move to Iowa state.
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on April 13, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
You need to have some bud lights with Bo at his crib before he endorses a move to Iowa state.
Will Elvira be joining us?
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on April 13, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
You need to have some bud lights with Bo at his crib before he endorses a move to Iowa state.
Why not Coors Light? Playing 3 man with cases of that tonight.
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on April 13, 2012, 07:30:12 PM
Why not Coors Light? Playing 3 man with cases of that tonight.
You truly are Captain Awesome.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2012, 08:48:20 PM
You truly are Captain Awesome.
I thank my MU education for my ability to down mass quantities of cheap beer with relatively few side effects.
Best six years ever!
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 13, 2012, 05:46:07 PM
If the Iowa State thing is true, it's pretty clear to me that they didn't want him to be able to play at a high major program in his home state. Is there a reason for that other than pettiness?
Iowa State recruits Wisconsin pretty hard...but I don't even think that is a good reason. Hell, I don't think Marquette is a very good reason either.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 13, 2012, 09:48:59 PM
Iowa State recruits Wisconsin pretty hard...but I don't even think that is a good reason. Hell, I don't think Marquette is a very good reason either.
At least with Marquette they play us once a year so they know they'll see us. Big 12 makes no sense. They just don't want him going back home for free.
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on April 13, 2012, 07:30:12 PM
Why not Coors Light? Playing 3 man with cases of that tonight.
few years back, Jeter was considering taking the ISU job but Bo talked him out of it over a few bud lights at bo's crib in Middleton.
I, too, am hitting the silver bullet tonight.
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on April 13, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
few years back, Jeter was considering taking the ISU job but Bo talked him out of it over a few bud lights at bo's crib in Middleton.
I, too, am hitting the silver bullet tonight.
Now I'm playing golden tee and drinking Bo Specials (bud light).
Quote from: CaptainAwesome on April 13, 2012, 10:58:53 PM
Now I'm playing golden tee and drinking Bo Specials (bud light).
so you won't get drunk (bud lights) or laid (golden tee stigma, stays on you all night. broads can instantly tell if a dude has played golden tee within the last 24 hours and stay away like the plague).
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on April 13, 2012, 11:06:33 PM
so you won't get drunk (bud lights) or laid (golden tee stigma, stays on you all night. broads can instantly tell if a dude has played golden tee within the last 24 hours and stay away like the plague).
Oh you underestimate the power of the Dark side...
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on April 13, 2012, 11:06:33 PM
so you won't get drunk (bud lights) or laid (golden tee stigma, stays on you all night. broads can instantly tell if a dude has played golden tee within the last 24 hours and stay away like the plague).
You overestimate the caliber of woman he's looking for.
Quote from: Bocephys on April 13, 2012, 11:47:20 PM
You overestimate the caliber of woman he's looking for.
You know what Eazy E once said...
Quote from: tower912 on April 13, 2012, 06:18:32 AM
I accept that players transfer. I hope it works out for this kid. The only thing that makes this interesting is the hypocrisy of the badger fans. If the same thing happened at MU, it would of course be do some failing of the school or coach. Here, it is obviously due to a failing of the player to appreciate the awesomeness around him. And, if there should be a transfer from MU, that will be on full display.
John Ellenson?
Quote from: wadesworld on April 13, 2012, 01:45:33 PM
Fair enough. What about the restriction that he cannot transfer to a Big 12 school? Big 10 is obvious as is Marquette, but another conference that you do not even play in? Have never heard of Crean, Buzz, Calipari, or Calhoun pulling that one.
It was revealed yesterday the only Big 12 school is Iowa State. He is leaving because he didn't want to play the 4 position, he wasn't run off.
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on April 13, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
few years back, Jeter was considering taking the ISU job but Bo talked him out of it over a few bud lights at bo's crib in Middleton.
I, too, am hitting the silver bullet tonight.
I believe the meeting at bo's house was between ISU and Jeter. bo was in bed and his wife served up the Bud Light.
Quote from: MUMac on April 15, 2012, 11:25:46 AM
I believe the meeting at bo's house was between ISU and Jeter. bo was in bed and his wife served up the Bud Light.
right. it was a 7 pm meeting, iirc.
Bo usually watches wheel of fortune and then hits the hay.
Add the whole ACC and Marquette to Uthoff's restricted list.
Bo sure isn't making it easy for Jarrod to leave.
He's metaphorically saying to Ulthoff what he actually says to refs that offend him.
Non-educated guess here. Maybe Bo is seeing Iowa State's T.J. Otzelberger gain some momentum in WI recruiting. He hasn't landed any blue chippers yet, but it seems like he really works WI hard because he is from here. He played at Whitewater and was team captain. He got Christopherson and Korie Lucious to transfer there recently, and I thought I recall him getting a few more WI kids over the years. They have been put together a few solid teams recently. Maybe Bo doesn't want them gaining any more momentum. Just a thought.
Otzelberger also got Diante Garrett from Milwaukee Vincent (All Big 12 second team) and Mike Taylor from Milwaukee Marshall (All Big 12 honorable mention).
The accepted wisdom seems to be that Bo doesn't want JU to go to a school that may appear on UW's schedule (B1G, MU, ACC) or to a school that competes with UW for recruits (ISU, B12). The argument is flawed because who knows what D1 team that UW may face in the NIT, NCAA, or preseason tourneys. No, this is a case where Bo's feelings are hurt and he is retaliating against a 19 year old kid.
Quote from: tower912 on April 17, 2012, 09:09:46 AM
The accepted wisdom seems to be that Bo doesn't want JU to go to a school that may appear on UW's schedule (B1G, MU, ACC) or to a school that competes with UW for recruits (ISU, B12). The argument is flawed because who knows what D1 team that UW may face in the NIT, NCAA, or preseason tourneys. No, this is a case where Bo's feelings are hurt and he is retaliating against a 19 year old kid.
Every transfer has some restrictions on it and majority of them make sense.
This particular restriction list is looking exactly as you state......an adult throwing his toys out of the pram at the expense of a college kid's potential.
Is it just me or?
Does Hoopaloop question Buzz more than Crean or, especially Bo? Seems to have some serious manlove for Bo.
Quote from: mu-rara on April 17, 2012, 09:17:24 AM
Is it just me or?
Does Hoopaloop question Buzz more than Crean or, especially Bo? Seems to have some serious manlove for Bo.
Nope, not by a long shot, many of us have noticed this.
Quote from: mu-rara on April 17, 2012, 09:17:24 AM
Is it just me or?
Does Hoopaloop question Buzz more than Crean or, especially Bo? Seems to have some serious manlove for Bo.
To play devil's advocate...doesn't it make sense that our own coach is questioned more than the coaches of schools in a completely different conference? I get what people are saying, but I'm far more concerned with the job Buzz is doing than Crean or Bo. Granted, I'm pleased with the job Buzz is doing, but if I had issues, I think they'd be more discussion-worthy here than the other two.
From Bucky's Fifth Quarter website:
http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2012/4/16/2952306/weekend-hoops-recap (http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2012/4/16/2952306/weekend-hoops-recap)
"What we do know is that UW did not place widespread restrictions on Uthoff's destination, as once feared, though the inclusion of Iowa State has ruffled some feathers. (UPDATE: The entire ACC has been added to the no contact list after Virginia's Tony Bennett inquired about Uthoff.) Restricting in-state rival Marquette is standard procedure (MU does the same with UW) and a Big Ten conference rule forbids a transfer on scholarship to another member school.
One can only speculate as to why Wisconsin restricted a move to Iowa State. The Cyclones certainly recruit the state of Wisconsin very hard and hand out a lot of offers. The only logical explanation is that Bo Ryan and Co. have more than an inkling that someone connected with ISU program tampered with Uthoff in this case. Otherwise, the restriction appears a bit vindictive." (bolding is the website's)
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 17, 2012, 09:22:53 AM
To play devil's advocate...doesn't it make sense that our own coach is questioned more than the coaches of schools in a completely different conference? I get what people are saying, but I'm far more concerned with the job Buzz is doing than Crean or Bo. Granted, I'm pleased with the job Buzz is doing, but if I had issues, I think they'd be more discussion-worthy here than the other two.
I think that the issue is more about always taking the negative view of what Buzz is doing while consistently holding other coaches to a different (far lessor) standard, if not being an apologist on their behalf.
This ACC thing is a joke. Saw that this morning and just shook my head. Bo really is a vindictive ass. There's no other explanation at this point. Might as well tell the kid it's D2 or bust at this point.
The kid has his sights on Northern Iowa (which is full) and Creighton. There is a 90% he ends up at Creighton very soon.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 17, 2012, 09:22:53 AM
To play devil's advocate...doesn't it make sense that our own coach is questioned more than the coaches of schools in a completely different conference? I get what people are saying, but I'm far more concerned with the job Buzz is doing than Crean or Bo. Granted, I'm pleased with the job Buzz is doing, but if I had issues, I think they'd be more discussion-worthy here than the other two.
I'm with you. It just seems he goes out of his way to protect/compliment Bo and Crean. I don't really care, to each their own.
Quote from: butchbadger on April 17, 2012, 09:40:26 AM
The kid has his sights on Northern Iowa (which is full) and Creighton. There is a 90% he ends up at Creighton very soon.
So Bo's creating negative recruiting material just for the hell of it? Nice.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on April 17, 2012, 09:00:23 AM
Non-educated guess here. Maybe Bo is seeing Iowa State's T.J. Otzelberger gain some momentum in WI recruiting. He hasn't landed any blue chippers yet, but it seems like he really works WI hard because he is from here. He played at Whitewater and was team captain. He got Christopherson and Korie Lucious to transfer there recently, and I thought I recall him getting a few more WI kids over the years. They have been put together a few solid teams recently. Maybe Bo doesn't want them gaining any more momentum. Just a thought.
Uhtoff is from Iowa, not Wisconsin.
Quote from: mu-rara on April 17, 2012, 09:17:24 AM
Is it just me or?
Does Hoopaloop question Buzz more than Crean or, especially Bo? Seems to have some serious manlove for Bo.
Once Crean left, Chicos and his minions stopped hating on and ripping Bo. Overnight, he became St. Bo and his program became the one to emulate. The guns were turned inward, and Buzz was the bad guy for recruiting too many jucos and nontraditionals. As Chico's most trusted aid-de-camp, Hoop is now in charge of the defend/praise Bo and TC and question/rip Buzz narrative.
Bo's hissyfit is garnering some attention.
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/04/17/bo-ryan-is-angry-jarrod-uthoff-is-transferring-so-hes-blocking-as-many-suitors-as-possible/
Well said lenny, I normally do not respond but I get tired of Hoop negative thoughts on Buzz. I keep him on ignore for some time now.
Bilas talked about it on a quick short that showed on ESPNEWS on how the NCAA says they treat all athletes as students, but regular students aren't subject to transfer restrictions. He then tweeted about it.
WHERE IS THE JS STORY ON THIS?
Quote from: Warriors10 on April 17, 2012, 11:27:31 AM
WHERE IS THE JS STORY ON THIS?
You joke, but let's get real. A coach earning over $2M year dictating where a kid can and cannot attend college to this extent is despicable - far more despicable than a few guys getting into a bar fight. Jay Bilas is absolutely correct on this and the way the college athletes who make them all their money are treated. They are the real villains in this, by even allowing a coach to create that list. I don't care if it's Bo Ryan or anybody else, it's complete BS.
Found this article:
http://www.metrosportsreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6493&catid=184#.T4zultg-aZI.twitter
I understand B10 obviously, Marquette and Iowa State because of proximity, but why oh why the ACC. Let the poor kid go play ball.
Quote from: Stronghold on April 17, 2012, 11:43:15 AM
Found this article:
http://www.metrosportsreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6493&catid=184#.T4zultg-aZI.twitter
I understand B10 obviously, Marquette and Iowa State because of proximity, but why oh why the ACC. Let the poor kid go play ball.
Big Ten/ACC challenge implications? I assume that's the alleged thought process.
Clearly Bo/UW is doing this to spite the kid and/or make his options undesirable to the point that he'd consider staying in Madison. Honestly, I understand blocking conference teams and MU but why block Iowa State? The kid is from Iowa and could possibly want to play closer to home. That would be like Oregon blocking MU from Jamil's transfer list.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/57991/bo-ryans-transfer-ban-list-is-large (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/57991/bo-ryans-transfer-ban-list-is-large)
ESPN got in on the fun/bashing. Good for them.
I would wait for all of the facts to come out on why Bo Ryan is doing this before making assumptions IMO.
Quote from: whodem on April 17, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
I would wait for all of the facts to come out on why Bo Ryan is doing this before making assumptions IMO.
Under what circumstances would it be ok?
I understand the B10 and MU restrictions and would give Bo the benefit of the doubt on ISU but the ACC issue seems nothing but vindictive. I mean if you are going to eliminate all ACC schools cause of B10 ACC challenge,why not all D1 schools because of NCAA tournament?
Quote from: mu-rara on April 17, 2012, 09:17:24 AM
Is it just me or?
Does Hoopaloop question Buzz more than Crean or, especially Bo? Seems to have some serious manlove for Bo.
No, it is not just you but unfortunately you and some of the others have trouble reading, even when it is in the same subject. Did I call Bo a jerk? Yes, in this very thread.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 13, 2012, 03:09:34 PM
Is that restriction true? Some internet speculation but we should see if it comes to pass. If it does, that would seem severe to me and not surprising since Bo can be a jerk. If it if for the good of the kid's future, he would let him go wherever but that isn't all the game is played with transfers.
The perception out there is that Crean, Buzz, Calhoun, Caliprari, Pitino run off players to open up scholarships. No one here can deny this. Some fans find that wrong, some fans do not. Wisconsin didn't run off this player. He and Dekker were a big part of their future plans.
Have I called him worse?
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=30985.msg373089#msg373089 "Bo Ryan is a douche and coaches our in-state rival."
Crazy man love! I have never called Buzz a douche or a jerk, but I have Bo Ryan. Yet I have manlove for Bo? Do some of you guys bother to read what you write or does it just come out in volumes and you cannot stop yourselves? The only thing I question is letting a kid go that has signed an intent letter before he even gets here. Transfers happen, but that isn't even a transfer. That has been the extent of my displeasure with Buzz, otherwise my complaints are minor. Others have more complaints.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 17, 2012, 01:37:45 PM
I understand the B10 and MU restrictions and would give Bo the benefit of the doubt on ISU but the ACC issue seems nothing but vindictive. I mean if you are going to eliminate all ACC schools cause of B10 ACC challenge,why not all D1 schools because of NCAA tournament?
Why do you give him the benefit of the doubt on ISU? Just curious if I'm missing something.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 17, 2012, 09:30:52 AM
This ACC thing is a joke. Saw that this morning and just shook my head. Bo really is a vindictive ass. There's no other explanation at this point. Might as well tell the kid it's D2 or bust at this point.
+1 He is throwing a temper tantrum because he had plans for this kid. Way to think about the kid there Bo.
Bo's message to now and future players: If you suck and we (and others) don't want you feel free to go anywhere yesterday. If you can play a little and we might use you someday it doesn't matter how unhappy you are - we'll block any move to any major. What a petulant child.
Quote from: whodem on April 17, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
I would wait for all of the facts to come out on why Bo Ryan is doing this before making assumptions IMO.
According to the other Badgers poster, Uthoff is nearly certain to attend Creighton.
Why, then, would Bo Ryan make himself look like an pretty boy with all these restrictions for no reason?
I give him the benefit of the doubt with ISU because there is talk of ISU tampering through intermediaries.
Quote from: mu-rara on April 17, 2012, 09:17:24 AM
Is it just me or?
Does Hoopaloop question Buzz more than Crean or, especially Bo? Seems to have some serious manlove for Bo.
This is the wisdom he learned while curled at the feet of The Bail Bondsman at the now famousBackyard Summit
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 17, 2012, 02:57:30 PM
I give him the benefit of the doubt with ISU because there is talk of ISU tampering through intermediaries.
That is a legitimate exception in my book. Why reward a school for tampering. It would be hard to believe that all of the ACC is tampering. Bo and the Badgers look bad on this. National story. This is why the denial here when MU was a national story recently that it meant nothing was rather naive. These stories don't help coaches or programs.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 17, 2012, 03:53:56 PM
That is a legitimate exception in my book. Why reward a school for tampering. It would be hard to believe that all of the ACC is tampering. Bo and the Badgers look bad on this. National story. This is why the denial here when MU was a national story recently that it meant nothing was rather naive. These stories don't help coaches or programs.
Only you would use a story about your beloved Bo being a total douche as a segue to the old and totally overblown story of kids getting tickets for being in a bar. And you wonder why virtually everyone thinks you're a jerk. Sheesh.
It was talked about on face time on ATH.
Question: Can he transfer to Pitt/'Cuse? I mean there not ACC yet...
Quote from: whodem on April 17, 2012, 01:19:13 PM
I would wait for all of the facts to come out on why Bo Ryan is doing this before making assumptions IMO.
The wait could be quite long as Wisconsin has not responded to requests for comment from ESPN and the Metro Sports Report.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2012, 04:09:31 PM
Only you would use a story about your beloved Bo being a total douche as a segue to the old and totally overblown story of kids getting tickets for being in a bar. And you wonder why virtually everyone thinks you're a jerk. Sheesh.
If only you had the mind reading abilities you think you have. Sheesh. I was referencing the sexual assault articles on the front pages of the Chicago Tribune twice that poster after poster after poster here said was no big deal. I do not care about the ticketing issue at a bar.
And you wonder why so many posters have left here over the years because of guys like you. The personal attacks are unnecessary and the mods said they would stop. Why do you continue with them?
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 17, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
And you wonder why so many posters have left here over the years because of guys like you who they think acts like a jerk. Sheesh.
Is that why you left?
I'm still here Navin. My skin is thick enough, but others have left. At least I haven't seen them here for months or beyond. A few commented they were tired of being called out by others for having opinions and attacked as less of a fan.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 17, 2012, 08:06:36 PM
I'm still here Navin. My skin is thick enough, but others have left. At least I haven't seen them here for months or beyond. A few commented they were tired of being called out by others for having opinions and attacked as less of a fan.
I'm curious as to who has left. BMA725 and GOMU1104 are two guys I wished still posted here (BMA said he was fed up with Ners, not sure why GOMU doesn't post here anymore--unless he posts under another name), but are there any other prominent posters that have left due the nature of this board?
Quote from: jmayer1 on April 17, 2012, 08:30:52 PM
I'm curious as to who has left. BMA725 and GOMU1104 are two guys I wished still posted here (BMA said he was fed up with Ners, not sure why GOMU doesn't post here anymore--unless he posts under another name), but are there any other prominent posters that have left due the nature of this board?
I haven't seen a post from Chicos in months
Quote from: warthog-driver on April 17, 2012, 08:37:57 PM
I haven't seen a post from Chicos in months
He didn't leave due to the nature of the board, unless by nature of the board, you mean "forced out by the moderators".
Quote from: jmayer1 on April 17, 2012, 08:30:52 PM
I'm curious as to who has left. BMA725 and GOMU1104 are two guys I wished still posted here (BMA said he was fed up with Ners, not sure why GOMU doesn't post here anymore--unless he posts under another name), but are there any other prominent posters that have left due the nature of this board?
GOMU1104 is my cousin, and he stopped posting for the same reason BMA did, mostly.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 18, 2012, 07:02:01 AM
GOMU1104 is my cousin, and he stopped posting for the same reason BMA did, mostly.
oh good, another alleged story from a damn cousin. ;D
Quote from: ZiggysFryB'oy on April 18, 2012, 07:25:06 AM
oh good, another alleged story from a damn cousin. ;D
bahahahaha, but no, for real, he has admitted as much when I disappeared from the board for a few weeks when Chicos was worried about my whereabouts a year or two back.
if that made any sense.
I left for a while. Wasn't intentional, just sort of got busy wit other things and stopped checking in. I missed the entire Chicos -> Hoopaloop transformation. I just learned about that like a month ago. I guess some like this board so much they leave and come back as a different person.
MUAvenue RIP
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 18, 2012, 09:51:22 AM
MUAvenue RIP
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Willie Warrior is missed.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 17, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
And you wonder why so many posters have left here over the years because of guys like you.
You repeating this BS over and over again won't make it true. Who are these "so many" posters I've driven from the board? BMA? No. SJS/84? Willie Warrior? Chicos? 84 gave us a respite but is back as the Equalizer and hasn't missed a beat. Chicos was banned. Don't know what happened to Willie, but don't think one as outspoken a critic of everything Marquette could be driven out by little ol' me. Who else is in the "so many" group of yours?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
You repeating this BS over and over again won't make it true. Who are these "so many" posters I've driven from the board? BMA? No. SJS/84? Willie Warrior? Chicos? 84 gave us a respite but is back as the Equalizer and hasn't missed a beat. Chicos was banned. Don't know what happened to Willie, but don't think one as outspoken a critic of everything Marquette could be driven out by little ol' me. Who else is in the "so many" group of yours?
Number one, the mods here said the personal attacks were going to stop or people would be given a vacation. Calling someone a jerk, which you did, seems to qualify in that category. It is not necessary and juvenile. Do not understand why it is allowed. It brings down the level of the conversation.
Secondly, there have been some posters that either no longer post here or cut back their usage because of the back and forth, the commentary that often results in name calling or defining one's fandom. How many times have you told me or others they love Bo Ryan and I can only answer personally that I cannot stand the guy. What is the point of your offensive remarks? Unless you aren't paying attention, some posters come right out and say they are done, tired of it. They are the ones saying it.
RBSC, GoMarquette, Murffius, BMA, SJS, Tweekers, ecompt rarely comes here anymore, and others as well. Some have stated there were tired of having their fandom questioned. Others I don't know, I'm sure they have their reasons. Where is NYWarrior? ErikJD is around but doesn't participate much. Some guys will leave for different reasons, but others in their own words have said they don't like to participate when people like you and others get into the name calling.
Do you feel it is productive with the name calling? Is it an internet bullying thing?
This is by far my favorite comment from the BADger story on ESPN.
Quotexx ihatethecardinals xx
Uthoff has yet to come out and really give a solid explanation as to why he was leaving. All he has said is that he doesn't think a 3 or 4 while thrive in Wisconsin's offense. That just doesn't add up! The only logical explanation is there is some girl behind the scenes whispering in his ear and that's what Ryan is so mad about.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 18, 2012, 01:46:54 PM
Number one, the mods here said the personal attacks were going to stop or people would be given a vacation. Calling someone a jerk, which you did, seems to qualify in that category. It is not necessary and juvenile. Do not understand why it is allowed. It brings down the level of the conversation.
Secondly, there have been some posters that either no longer post here or cut back their usage because of the back and forth, the commentary that often results in name calling or defining one's fandom. How many times have you told me or others they love Bo Ryan and I can only answer personally that I cannot stand the guy. What is the point of your offensive remarks? Unless you aren't paying attention, some posters come right out and say they are done, tired of it. They are the ones saying it.
RBSC, GoMarquette, Murffius, BMA, SJS, Tweekers, ecompt rarely comes here anymore, and others as well. Some have stated there were tired of having their fandom questioned. Others I don't know, I'm sure they have their reasons. Where is NYWarrior? ErikJD is around but doesn't participate much. Some guys will leave for different reasons, but others in their own words have said they don't like to participate when people like you and others get into the name calling.
Do you feel it is productive with the name calling? Is it an internet bullying thing?
Addition by subtraction.
Has Bo BUZZsaw or CREANed any players? I thought he did but I can't think of any.
Bo has BOned players before, as we know. Now what do we call what he is doing? De-BOning? There has to be a name for the opposite of BOning a player.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
You repeating this BS over and over again won't make it true. Who are these "so many" posters I've driven from the board? BMA? No. SJS/84? Willie Warrior? Chicos? 84 gave us a respite but is back as the Equalizer and hasn't missed a beat. Chicos was banned. Don't know what happened to Willie, but don't think one as outspoken a critic of everything Marquette could be driven out by little ol' me. Who else is in the "so many" group of yours?
I blame Lenny's for the disappearance of idrankwithmandyjohnson
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on April 18, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
Has Bo BUZZsaw or CREANed any players? I thought he did but I can't think of any.
Markolf lost the will to play basketball conveniently when UW was short on guards and then were able to get the Big Ten to change the rules for going to another Big Ten school after getting out of the LOI from a Big Ten School.
Sorry if it has been posted, but UW needs to improve their mail delivery system in their office.
http://thegazette.com/2012/04/18/source-jarrod-uthoff-did-not-make-appeal/ (http://thegazette.com/2012/04/18/source-jarrod-uthoff-did-not-make-appeal/)
On PTI, Wilbon just said he's got a lawyer ready for Uthoff to challenge the ACC restrictions and if Uthoff wants to use the lawyer to call him and he might help pay. Calls UW "gutless slob" if they restrict him this much
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 18, 2012, 04:10:28 PM
Markolf lost the will to play basketball conveniently when UW was short on guards and then were able to get the Big Ten to change the rules for going to another Big Ten school after getting out of the LOI from a Big Ten School.
Sorry if it has been posted, but UW needs to improve their mail delivery system in their office.
http://thegazette.com/2012/04/18/source-jarrod-uthoff-did-not-make-appeal/ (http://thegazette.com/2012/04/18/source-jarrod-uthoff-did-not-make-appeal/)
I wonder if the UW fans will apologize now for calling him a liar in regards to the appeal. It amazes me how willing they are to throw a kid under the bus for wanting to transfer.