I know we have no more scholarships, but according to ESPN, we are the leaders for him.
Article:
Recruiting update: Recruiting has picked up for the athletic post player, who's one of the top unsigned big men still available. He visited Clemson early, but Memphis, Marquette, Missouri, Minnesota, Oklahoma and Tennessee have all joined the competition for his services and it looks like Marquette could be the leader at this point.
Anymore insight on the kid?
I would take Nolan in heartbeat. Think he has very good upside potential. Aside from being all he actually is skilled and tall.
Rank Name Ht
102 Phillip Nolan 6'10"
104 T.J. Taylor (2010 ranking) 6'3"
108 Steve Taylor 6'7"
137 Jamal Ferguson 6'3"
324 Aaron Durley 6'9"
Gosh, based on Rivals that would be an awfully good and balanced class, and I don't see how we don't sign up a 6'10" player who is ranked so much higher than Otule and Gardner were. If he progresses anything like they have, you'd think he could be a huge impact player.
Rivals doesn't actually put the numbers by players after their top 150, but they do seem to continue to list the 3 stars in order when you watch how they move, so they do have Durley really low right now. While they don't technically have any of them in the top 100, to get a 6-10 true power forward, a 6-3 point guard, a 6-7 guy who can hit from beyond the arc, and a 6-3 guy who looks like a rock gets me pretty excited. I just hope Durley is doing well, but it certainly sounds like he hasn't progressed while being on his high school bench.
What have you heard about Durley aside from him being on the bench during the HS season, which has been talked to death? Has he struggled to get back into game shape or something for his AAU team?
When did Steve Taylor drop out of the top-100? I haven't seen him out of anyone's top-100 at all before now.
If you really can get Nolan, you find a way to make the numbers work.
This is what's known as a pleasant problem to have.
So, is it 3 or 4 players now who are gonna leave the program?
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on April 09, 2012, 08:20:17 PM
Rank Name Ht
102 Phillip Nolan 6'10"
104 T.J. Taylor (2010 ranking) 6'3"
108 Steve Taylor 6'7"
137 Jamal Ferguson 6'3"
324 Aaron Durley 6'9"
Gosh, based on Rivals that would be an awfully good and balanced class, and I don't see how we don't sign up a 6'10" player who is ranked so much higher than Otule and Gardner were. If he progresses anything like they have, you'd think he could be a huge impact player.
Rivals doesn't actually put the numbers by players after their top 150, but they do seem to continue to list the 3 stars in order when you watch how they move, so they do have Durley really low right now. While they don't technically have any of them in the top 100, to get a 6-10 true power forward, a 6-3 point guard, a 6-7 guy who can hit from beyond the arc, and a 6-3 guy who looks like a rock gets me pretty excited. I just hope Durley is doing well, but it certainly sounds like he hasn't progressed while being on his high school bench.
The biggest problem is that he is nowhere near a true power forward. He is a 6'10" wannabe shooting guard. He's also like 6'10" and 200 lbs, which may help to explain why he wants to be a shooting guard. I watched his full game at Brookfield Central, in which he was the tallest player on the court by (at least) 4" and I would be shocked if he shot less than 3x the amount of 3 pointers as he did 2 pointers, let alone shots on the block. The only 2 field goals he made inside the arc were dunks on fast breaks. The one time I saw him actually post someone up down low he got stuffed big time from behind.
If it were me, I would pass on this kid. If we're going to have available scholarships, see if we can't get one of the transfers being thrown around or save it for Kendrick Nunn.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2012, 10:03:29 PM
The biggest problem is that he is nowhere near a true power forward. He is a 6'10" wannabe shooting guard. He's also like 6'10" and 200 lbs, which may help to explain why he wants to be a shooting guard. I watched his full game at Brookfield Central, in which he was the tallest player on the court by (at least) 4" and I would be shocked if he shot less than 3x the amount of 3 pointers as he did 2 pointers, let alone shots on the block. The only 2 field goals he made inside the arc were dunks on fast breaks. The one time I saw him actually post someone up down low he got stuffed big time from behind.
If it were me, I would pass on this kid. If we're going to have available scholarships, see if we can't get one of the transfers being thrown around or save it for Kendrick Nunn.
This sounds like a description of Novak when he was coming out of High School.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 09, 2012, 09:43:07 PM
When did Steve Taylor drop out of the top-100? I haven't seen him out of anyone's top-100 at all before now.
That is his Rivals ranking. I just checked also.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 09, 2012, 09:48:11 PM
So, is it 3 or 4 players now who are gonna leave the program?
Sounds like Nolan, Hood, Nunn, and Lockett incoming. Get another forward and we have a great start on a full-fledged B-team. Maybe Benford can get his HC gig as our second squad to double our chances of getting a NC.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 09, 2012, 10:06:08 PM
This sounds like a description of Novak when he was coming out of High School.
But Novak was always a knock down 3 point shooter. Nolan does not knock down the outside shot at a high clip. His shot is not even comparable to Novak's.
Rodney Hood
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2012, 10:03:29 PM
The biggest problem is that he is nowhere near a true power forward. He is a 6'10" wannabe shooting guard. He's also like 6'10" and 200 lbs, which may help to explain why he wants to be a shooting guard. I watched his full game at Brookfield Central, in which he was the tallest player on the court by (at least) 4" and I would be shocked if he shot less than 3x the amount of 3 pointers as he did 2 pointers, let alone shots on the block. The only 2 field goals he made inside the arc were dunks on fast breaks. The one time I saw him actually post someone up down low he got stuffed big time from behind.
If it were me, I would pass on this kid. If we're going to have available scholarships, see if we can't get one of the transfers being thrown around or save it for Kendrick Nunn.
Actually, this sounds a bit like Jae.
Obviously Jae's game was pretty well rounded, but his best/favorite offensive weapon was the trailing 3pter.
Not something I want a 610" dude doing in HS games, but at the college level, it can be effective.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2012, 10:03:29 PM
The biggest problem is that he is nowhere near a true power forward. He is a 6'10" wannabe shooting guard. He's also like 6'10" and 200 lbs, which may help to explain why he wants to be a shooting guard. I watched his full game at Brookfield Central, in which he was the tallest player on the court by (at least) 4" and I would be shocked if he shot less than 3x the amount of 3 pointers as he did 2 pointers, let alone shots on the block. The only 2 field goals he made inside the arc were dunks on fast breaks. The one time I saw him actually post someone up down low he got stuffed big time from behind.
If it were me, I would pass on this kid. If we're going to have available scholarships, see if we can't get one of the transfers being thrown around or save it for Kendrick Nunn.
Oh sure Clemson, Memphis, Marquette, Missouri, Minnesota, Oklahoma and Tennessee want him but what do they know. Wadesworld saw him play a game once! Pass!
Quote from: 2002MUalum on April 10, 2012, 11:17:48 AM
Actually, this sounds a bit like Jae.
Obviously Jae's game was pretty well rounded, but his best/favorite offensive weapon was the trailing 3pter.
Not something I want a 610" dude doing in HS games, but at the college level, it can be effective.
Nolan's outside shot attempts were not trailing 3s. He was hanging out on the perimeter the entire game I saw. And his 3 point shooting was not highly efficient. He's 6'10" and 205 lbs. Crowder is 6'6" and 235 lbs. crowder averaged 8 rebounds per game as an undersized 4 against other Big East 4s. I'd be shocked if Nolan averaged 1/2 that many rebounds against kids who were giving up at least 4" on almost a nightly basis in the WIAA. Again, in my opionion he's a pass. Would much rather have Juan Anderson on the court as he at least will get after it on the boards as much as he can.
Let him go JUCO and grow up a little bit, then take a look at him in two years. MU is on much better players than him, especially with limited room at the inn.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 10, 2012, 11:27:06 AM
Oh sure Clemson, Memphis, Marquette, Missouri, Minnesota, Oklahoma and Tennessee want him but what do they know. Wadesworld saw him play a game once! Pass!
Ok. Solid input. Never claimed to know more than any of them. Just saying what I saw. And have only heard the exact same things. What is a 6'10" guy who stands on the perimeter and is a below average perimeter shooter going to do for us? He was the 3rd best (if that) player on Riverside, and BC had 1 better player than him. None of them are being recruited by high major schools. He had the most potential based on his height, but he has a long, long way to go.
Here's a question for you since you know it all: Who do we cut to make room for him? Keep in mind, we are already oversigned by 1 assuming OTule gets his 6th year. So what player this year is out to get Nolan in, and then what player is out the following year to get Wilson and Burton in? And if we're making room for 2 more, what about Kendrick Nunn instead of Nolan? Much more of a high major recruit who seems just as interested in MU. Enlighten me. Who's out?
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 10, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
Let him go JUCO and grow up a little bit, then take a look at him in two years. MU is on much better players than him, especially with limited room at the inn.
Well put. Wouldn't mind that at all if he's up for it.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2012, 11:32:34 AM
Well put. Wouldn't mind that at all if he's up for it.
He might not have a choice. He's a longshot to qualify.
There's some baggage there, I'm glad MU backed off.
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 10, 2012, 11:53:08 AM
He might not have a choice. He's a longshot to qualify.
There's some baggage there, I'm glad MU backed off.
I'm not sure how, "it looks like Marquette could be the leader at this point", indicates that MU has backed off.
I hope we do not back off. He is a skilled big man and I think is perfectly suited for Buzz's style of play. Everybody has comments on his baggage and that always cracks me up. If he had real baggage nobody would be recruiting him.
I want all the good players we can get, but if wadesworld is right, I'm saying pass now, also. I haven't seen him, so I'll defer to others.
Unless a guy is a Novak-quality shooter -- and there aren't many of them -- I've never really liked 6-10 guys who just hang around the perimeter waiting for passes. I want my 6-10 guys to be the opposite of soft.
If he's really a stud, or at least a stud-in-making as the number of suitors seem to suggest, yes, we'd have room for him.
So, in other words ... oh hell, I don't know what I'm saying on this one!
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 10, 2012, 01:05:16 PM
I'm not sure how, "it looks like Marquette could be the leader at this point", indicates that MU has backed off.
It indicates that ESPN really doesn't know what they're talking about on this one.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 10, 2012, 11:31:50 AM
Ok. Solid input. Never claimed to know more than any of them. Just saying what I saw.
I was at the same game and agree with much of what wadesworld is saying. I was blown away that he was playing a large portion of the game on the outside -- a ton of it buried in the corners looking for a kickout. He did not have a great shot that game. All that said, with the right conditioning and coaching, I think he could be a pretty nice player. He has great body control, very fluid. He looks to have good hands. And you can't teach height like that. Put a few pounds on him and I think he could be Ousmae Borro-quality by soph year. I'm no scout, but I would probably take him over what I've seen from Juan Anderson, considering he's 3 inches taller.
He has much better upside potential than Borro as a player. I like the fact he played a ton outside the basket because his ball skills are high for a big guy. In right system he has a chance to be an impact player in college. IMO he either sits on the pines at a school or finds a place to be standout player and nothing in between.
Goose -- that was sort of my point -- even with minimal growth, he could be Borro-quality -- IMO he potentially has a ton of upside and would be worth investment.
I'll say it again, younger fans should be so thankful for Crean and Buzz putting MU back on the map. <Insert grumpy old man voice> When I was in school in the late 80s, our team was made up of a large percentage of guys who couldn't even be walk-ons right now. To be talking about guys like Philip Nolan, Burton, Taylor, etc. and all of the other possibilities is truly remarkable. This is a great time to be an MU bball fan. Be thankful.
Freeport
Agreed on your post big time. My point was I think he a high bar, much higher than Borro, and in right place he could be a stud. For whatever reason I think it is going to be one extreme or the other with him.
According to ESPN predictions, the experts believe Nolan will qualify.
Paul Biancardi, Joel Francisco, Mike LaPlante, and John Stovall predicted Marquette to get him.
Dave Telep was the lone expert to predict Nolan going to a prep school. Adam Finkelstein picked Baylor and Reggie Rankin selected Minnesota.
On a side note, Noel appears head to Kentucky so we wont have to fear him playing for the hoyas.
How can they possibly know if he will qualify?
Duh, espn knows everyhing.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on April 10, 2012, 02:03:20 PM
Goose -- that was sort of my point -- even with minimal growth, he could be Borro-quality -- IMO he potentially has a ton of upside and would be worth investment.
I'll say it again, younger fans should be so thankful for Crean and Buzz putting MU back on the map. <Insert grumpy old man voice> When I was in school in the late 80s, our team was made up of a large percentage of guys who couldn't even be walk-ons right now. To be talking about guys like Philip Nolan, Burton, Taylor, etc. and all of the other possibilities is truly remarkable. This is a great time to be an MU bball fan. Be thankful.
Agreed, if this were the late eighties we'd be salivating about Nolan as if he were a top ten guy or at least the second coming of Mike Bargain (sp?).
Murs
Mike Bargen? Completely forgot about him. Sad to say but that was decent signing for the times. Some of us really experienced a dark period in Warrior history. I remember believing that Mike Davis was going to get over the hump every game and going home disappointed every game. Thankfully we are recruiting different type players today.
No offense to guys like Joe Nethen, John Leurck and Rod Grosse, but when I think back to those days, it makes me laugh.
Freeport
Makes me cry. I remember first time talking to KO and telling him you have nowhere to go but up. The guys you mentioned, and respect they played for MU, really represented a dark time.
Quote from: Goose on April 10, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
Murs
Mike Bargen? Completely forgot about him. Sad to say but that was decent signing for the times. Some of us really experienced a dark period in Warrior history. I remember believing that Mike Davis was going to get over the hump every game and going home disappointed every game. Thankfully we are recruiting different type players today.
My saddest moment was in 1985, I think, when I heard that Marquette had gotten a commitment from a basketball player from Michigan named Rice. First, I stupidly thought it was Glen Rice, then I found out it was some other player from Michigan also named Rice who was like fifth team all-state in Michigan.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on April 10, 2012, 06:25:20 PM
No offense to guys like Joe Nethen, John Leurck and Rod Grosse, but when I think back to those days, it makes me laugh.
Joe Nethen was actually a very good player. Unfortunately, He made Dwayne Johnson look like a genius. Did he ever qualify? I don't think so.
Rod Grosse, a top fifty recruit from Minnesota
and he was a center! When he got to MU, he looked liked he'd never played before. Career numbers roughly equivalent to Ivan Renko. This was my first awakening to the fallibility of recruiting services.
Rod Grosse, a top fifty recruit from Minnesota and he was a center! When he got to MU, he looked liked he'd never played before. Career numbers roughly equivalent to Ivan Renko. This was my first awakening to the fallibility of recruiting services.
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Twenty-five years ago recruiting a Minnesota prep basketball player was the equivalent of Gopher hockey recruiting in Texas.
Much rather have him then Durley. He'd be the highest ranked big man MU has gotten in 20 years. For the most part, any big man signing we had, was a complete joke (i.e. Mbao, Liam McMorrow,etc.)
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 10, 2012, 08:51:07 PM
Much rather have him then Durley. He'd be the highest ranked big man MU has gotten in 20 years. For the most part, any big man signing we had, was a complete joke (i.e. Mbao, Liam McMorrow,etc.)
Except he's not a big man. He'll play as big as Novak.
Quote from: PTM on April 10, 2012, 09:32:06 PM
Except he's not a big man. He'll play as big as Novak.
Yup.
Rodney Hood.
CBS has Marquette as the favorite for Nolan too:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/18452234/spring-signing-period-preview-who-else-is-on-the-board
With rumors of all these new recruits and transfers possibly coming on board, it sounds like Marquette will have an 18 player squad.
MU is gonna hold a seven game series at the AL, all prospective transfers/recruits split on two teams, winning team gets to come to MU.
Quote from: hdog1017 on April 11, 2012, 11:19:06 AM
With rumors of all these new recruits and transfers possibly coming on board, it sounds like Marquette will have an 18 player squad.
Wow, that's one more than Louisville had this year!
Nolan going prep school and will reclassify to 2013 according to gopherhole.com
Quote from: shaquilvaine on April 15, 2012, 07:19:00 PM
Nolan going prep school and will reclassify to 2013 according to gopherhole.com
So we'll see this thread resurface in a year?
This will make 5 schools in 5 years, correct?
Quote from: Bocephys on April 15, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
So we'll see this thread resurface in a year?
I sure hope so. 6'10" and was hovering around the top 100.....an extra year at prep and he should be solidly in the top 100. He could very well be in the top 50 next year. He has length, athleticism, and skills. That is a good "project" to work with.
You think Durley will be at the same Prep School (sorry, I could not help myself).
Have read this entire thread and now that i am finished shaking my head in amazement i have just one question????!!!!
What in the hell makes anyone think that because Nolan stood outside n shot threes in HS that that would in any way shape or form represent the way be would be asked to play at MU????
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 15, 2012, 09:36:23 PM
Have read this entire thread and now that i am finished shaking my head in amazement i have just one question????!!!!
What in the hell makes anyone think that because Nolan stood outside n shot threes in HS that that would in any way shape or form represent the way be would be asked to play at MU????
So you're advocating recruiting a guy whose game the coaches will want to change completely? Really, is that smart?
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 15, 2012, 10:07:49 PM
So you're advocating recruiting a guy whose game the coaches will want to change completely? Really, is that smart?
There have been more centers at MU with virtually no offense than those that did. It is a loooooong list. I don't think changing his offensive game is a big deal, he'll still likely have more offensive talent than the majority of recent centers at MU. Also, I'll give the scouts that rate him high the benefit of the doubt. There are obviously some good reasons behind his national rankings.
Nolan would likely not slow us down, given our style of play. Eventually MU will have to start landing talented bigs and steer away from the Durley's, Rosboro's, and Mbao's of the world.
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 15, 2012, 10:07:49 PM
So you're advocating recruiting a guy whose game the coaches will want to change completely? Really, is that smart?
Jamil Wilson's game is much different than it was in high school. Happens all the time.
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 16, 2012, 12:42:24 AM
Nolan would likely not slow us down, given our style of play. Eventually MU will have to start landing talented bigs and steer away from the Durley's, Rosboro's, and Mbao's of the world.
If Durley ends up being successful at Marquette, he'll have proven himself to be the world's strongest man. He's going to have to bench press 10-15 buses off his chest that Scoopers have thrown him under.
Glad we can put a rest to Nolan since it looks like he's going to prep school. As far as the now moot hypothetical of bringing him in then changing his game, I've no problem with that. Easier to teach a basketball player a new position than to try to teach someone who is big and clueless how to play basketball in any form for the first time (thinking of Mbao when writing that, not Durley).
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2012, 07:03:45 AM
If Durley ends up being successful at Marquette, he'll have proven himself to be the world's strongest man. He's going to have to bench press 10-15 buses off his chest that Scoopers have thrown him under.
+1 you said it dude.
That being said, I am of the opinion (baseless) that Durley will Juco it and be on the team in 2 years.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 16, 2012, 06:17:37 AM
Jamil Wilson's game is much different than it was in high school. Happens all the time.
There's developing a player's skills and then there's trying to change his inclinations which I believe can be much more difficult. If a kid in 6'10" in HS and continually drifts out to the three point line, chances are a coaching staff won't be able to keep him near the lane against bigger competition in college without putting a chain around one ankle.
Jamil Wilson was never accused of avoiding the lane in HS.
I think Nolan is perfect type fit for Buzz's style. Since his skills are away from basket I think he can play the transition ball we have begun to play. Nothing from the returning big guys, especially DG, but they make playing full court press more difficult. Jamil plays the press the best and I think Nolan would be another long, athletic body in full court press.
Quote from: Goose on April 16, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
I think Nolan is perfect type fit for Buzz's style. Since his skills are away from basket I think he can play the transition ball we have begun to play. Nothing from the returning big guys, especially DG, but they make playing full court press more difficult. Jamil plays the press the best and I think Nolan would be another long, athletic body in full court press.
I would like Nolan as a 4, but I really wouldn't want him to have to play the 5 for us. He can step out and shoot the ball, rebound a bit, and block some shots, but he's not a banger. Guys like Lazar, Crowder, and Jamil may not have had Nolan's height, but all were better suited to bang in the low post than Nolan seems to be. If we can bring him in next year or in 2014 (maybe a JUCO year?) to play the 4, I'd like to have him here, but if we're hoping he can develop into a 5, I'm just not sure that's his game.
BrewCity
Agreed on him being a 4 and think our system is best played without a true 5. If we could land a freak of nature 5 is one thing but I'd take two athletic 4's on the court all day long.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 16, 2012, 03:35:28 PM
I would like Nolan as a 4, but I really wouldn't want him to have to play the 5 for us. He can step out and shoot the ball, rebound a bit, and block some shots, but he's not a banger. Guys like Lazar, Crowder, and Jamil may not have had Nolan's height, but all were better suited to bang in the low post than Nolan seems to be. If we can bring him in next year or in 2014 (maybe a JUCO year?) to play the 4, I'd like to have him here, but if we're hoping he can develop into a 5, I'm just not sure that's his game.
On the other hand, we don't necessarily need him to be a traditional 5 in the ilk of Otule. If he can defend the low post decently and alter some shots (at least not be a sieve defensively) while being able to run and stretch the floor on the offensive end he could make our system that much better. His height alone gives him a much better shot at being a decent 5 than someone like Dwight Burke. At the very least he's only learning technique, not how to overcome a 6 inch height disadvantage.
Quote from: Goose on April 16, 2012, 03:43:07 PM
BrewCity
Agreed on him being a 4 and think our system is best played without a true 5. If we could land a freak of nature 5 is one thing but I'd take two athletic 4's on the court all day long.
This is basically what I was trying to say. Well put Goose!
Quote from: Bocephys on April 16, 2012, 03:47:56 PM
On the other hand, we don't necessarily need him to be a traditional 5 in the ilk of Otule. If he can defend the low post decently and alter some shots (at least not be a sieve defensively) while being able to run and stretch the floor on the offensive end he could make our system that much better. His height alone gives him a much better shot at being a decent 5 than someone like Dwight Burke. At the very least he's only learning technique, not how to overcome a 6 inch height disadvantage.
He wouldn't be a sieve defensively at all, everything would just go right past him at the 5.
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 15, 2012, 09:36:23 PM
What in the hell makes anyone think that because Nolan stood outside n shot threes in HS that that would in any way shape or form represent the way be would be asked to play at MU????
I don't know if you're referring to my observations from seeing him play, but I didn't think it would "represent the way he would be asked to play at MU." My observation was more of a surprise than anything -- that a 6' 10" high schooler with nice coordination and footwork would be settling for long-range bombs rather than either playing with his back to the basket more, or slashing and gettting to the hoop. I think he would be ideal for Buzz's system -- basically a taller, slightly less athletic version of Jamil Wilson IMO.
Said on twitter he is still in the 2012 class
Quote from: GoMarquette32 on April 24, 2012, 08:44:47 PM
Said on twitter he is still in the 2012 class
Whose twitter?
Philip Nolan's twitter
Any Chance of the big transfer from South Carolina coming. Ravonte Harris 6-9, 215.
Quote from: GoMarquette32 on April 24, 2012, 09:37:33 PM
Philip Nolan's twitter
Like we can trust that. There's not even a twitter tracker attached to it.
Quote from: GoMarquette32 on April 24, 2012, 08:44:47 PM
Said on twitter he is still in the 2012 class
When was this? I went back to the beginning of the month and didn't see anything. Everything I've heard of late is that he'll be headed to St. John's Military Academy...though I suppose, he did visit the other St. John's yesterday.
He said it two days ago in a convo. It's specifically says still 2012.
I would be surprised at Prep School, but who knows?
Quote from: GoMarquette32 on April 25, 2012, 07:25:14 AM
He said it two days ago in a convo. It's specifically says still 2012.
Yup...missed it somehow. Wonder if those SJNMA rumors were confusion with his visit to St. John's. Personally hoping he reclassifies as I think he'd be a decent fit in 2013 if we end up with room, but if room is going to open up, there's every chance it happens this year, and I suppose he'd still be a quality add.