Ranked number 18 in the country by rivals.com. Seen him in person and his athleticism is off the charts. Smooth stroke from deep as well. Make him a priority right now. He's making an unofficial to Illinois. Don't make the HUGE mistake of letting him get away!!!!
What's he supposed to do, handcuff him to the bedpost?
I kinda think Buzz and crew are doing all they can to get the best players we can.
The fact you feel the need to beg Buzz to make Nunn a priority suggests you're not really paying attention.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 02, 2012, 09:50:38 PM
The fact you feel the need to beg Buzz to make Nunn a priority suggests you're not really paying attention.
+1
Were going to be one of the final teams in on Nunn. He likes MU and I bet he wouldn't mind playing along side Taylor. The only thing holding this back from being set in stone is the scholarship situation. We just do not have any more available for 2013. That being said, a shake up is possible. Not that I want anyone to transfer out, but it is interesting to note someone has left the program at least once every year since Buzz is at the helm.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 02, 2012, 09:46:51 PM
What's he supposed to do, handcuff him to the bedpost?
gotta kidnap him in a midnight limo first, aina?
So are you saying the last player Calipari will have to pay for is Davis?
I'm paying attention. I know that he knows what's going on. Have tons of faith in Buzz. Just got a little spooked he might not be a priority after we signed Duane Wilson who is also a great talent. Just don't think at the same level as Nunn
I'm very happy for Wilson and can't wait to see him suit up. Would be cool to have Nunn but I won't hold my breath.
Quote from: jonny09 on April 02, 2012, 10:08:58 PM
I'm paying attention. I know that he knows what's going on. Have tons of faith in Buzz. Just got a little spooked he might not be a priority after we signed Duane Wilson who is also a great talent. Just don't think at the same level as
So Buzz is supposed to pass on a potential top 100 guy because he is recruiting someone else?
Further, if Nunn is so worried that Wilson verballed with MU that he's looking at a dysfunctional Illinois program, he is over-rated.
Don't think I said that???? Anyways, I think we can both agree we are MU fans. Don't see a reason for the angry post
Quote from: jonny09 on April 02, 2012, 10:18:50 PM
Don't think I said that???? Anyways, I think we can both agree we are MU fans. Don't see a reason for the angry post
You must be new here... :D
Just get O.J. to shell up a la J.R. and we're golden.
Don't mess up my missing on the 18th player in the nation and have to settle for some no-name, unranked high school player like Davante Gardner or Todd Mayo!
Nunn had his chance and didn't want to commit, so we took Wilson. I have a feeling a lot would have to change for us to find room for him now. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I think it's unlikely.
Quote from: jonny09 on April 02, 2012, 10:08:58 PM
I'm paying attention. I know that he knows what's going on. Have tons of faith in Buzz. Just got a little spooked he might not be a priority after we signed Duane Wilson who is also a great talent. Just don't think at the same level as Nunn
I think we should have learned by now that waiting is a dangerous proposition. One in the hand is worth two in the bush.
MU is not in position of waiting for players to decide. In addition, with Wilson you are also recruiting Stone down the road which is good thing.
Quote from: Goose on April 03, 2012, 08:34:10 AM
MU is not in position of waiting for players to decide. In addition, with Wilson you are also recruiting Stone down the road which is good thing.
Turn it around ... if Nunn committed two months ago, would we still be recruiting Duane Wilson? I say yes.
AnotherMU84
Unlike most on here I would never stop recruiting. would always be looking to upgrade at every position every year. All I keep hearing is about not schollie's available and no room at MU. If we had Nunn I do not think we would be recruiting Wilson. Again, I would keep chasing best players that can make us better.
We have our guard and used our last scholarship. Forget about Nunn'
Should we start an e-mail campaign to get Nunn?
Quote from: bilsu on April 03, 2012, 08:53:18 AM
We have our guard and used our last scholarship. Forget about Nunn'
Sure hope the staff doesn't share that view. Never know when someone will leave.
If there's a top 50 player that at one point was near committing, you keep on him.
The end of our bench is not exactly stellar. Banking on 3-4 players to show vast improvement but also have everyone content with their playing time sounds unreasonable. Just go for the talent, we'll find a spot for him. IIRC, you can oversign by one, correct? And with Otule not "official" until the end of next year, we would have an extra spot to sign in the fall, so we'd be allowed to sign Nunn.
Quote from: chapman on April 03, 2012, 09:05:19 AMThe end of our bench is not exactly stellar.
Just looking at next year, I would assume the starters will be Otule, Junior, Wilson, Blue, and Mayo. That gives us a bench of...
Gardner: Great experienced low-post scorer with improving D
D. Wilson: Got some good experience, great defender, passable backup point
Anderson: RSCI top-100 with experience, good D, hustler
Jones: RSCI top-100 with experience, streaky shooter, can back up 2-4
TJ: Likely NJCAA, earned valuable experience at Paris
Steve: RSCI top-100, highly regarded but inexperienced
Thomas: Scholarship player in low-major team, sniper
Ferguson: Wing project
Durley: Big project
I would say that of those guys, most would expect that 7 of 9 guys on our bench could provide at least some valuable minutes. The other two are likely projects, but with a full compliment of players, most schools that aren't UNC, UK, or Duke have a couple of those. Honestly, I think this is the best bench we've had in memory. A mix of talent, experience, and hard work. I'll gladly take it.
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 03, 2012, 08:55:35 AM
Sure hope the staff doesn't share that view. Never know when someone will leave.
If there's a top 50 player that at one point was near committing, you keep on him.
We already have enough guards.
Quote from: bilsu on April 03, 2012, 12:21:06 PM
We already have enough guards.
Honestly, I agree with this sentiment. Not saying we have no room, but it would be nice to get a Steve Taylor-esque wing in this class.
Quote from: bilsu on April 03, 2012, 12:21:06 PM
We already have enough guards.
Yes but if a top 20 guard wants to come to MU, even if you have 11 guards on the roster, you make room for him.
Don't really see the need for the hysterical, tweaking-out title of this post. Buzz has proven to be a damn good recruiter, and if he can work it out so Nunn is in an MU uni, it'll happen. The kid is a major talent, I'm sure he's after him. And if he doesn't, that sure as hell doesn't mean Buzz "messed up." Ease up a bit...not so many exclamation points, please. (I should know, I overuse them too, just not 5 of them, and in post titles.)
http://www.youtube.com/v/VSKn8RlD7Is&fs=1&source=uds
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 03, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
Yes but if a top 20 guard wants to come to MU, even if you have 11 guards on the roster, you make room for him.
Agree. If Nunn's as good as billed we have Mayo, Taylor, and a bunch of guys who couldn't hold his jock.
He is pretty frickin good and would be impact player from day one. No doubt in mind if he wants to go to MU we find room for him in a hurry.
Quote from: jonny09 on April 02, 2012, 09:30:10 PM
Ranked number 18 in the country by rivals.com. Seen him in person and his athleticism is off the charts. Smooth stroke from deep as well. Make him a priority right now. He's making an unofficial to Illinois. Don't make the HUGE mistake of letting him get away!!!!
Taking Nunn just makes it harder to find room for Parker. ::)
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 03, 2012, 02:00:51 PM
Taking Nunn just makes it harder to find room for Parker. ::)
Why does Otule NEED the 6th year? Hasn't he been here long enough? He's costing us chances every year with his injuries. We already have Gardner and then Durley coming in so we are good at center after Otule graduates. I think Durley will turn out to be better than Otule anyway. That takes care of getting Nunn. THEN, we could also get Parker if someone (JWilson, Mayo) decides to leave early for the draft.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 03, 2012, 03:52:36 PM
Why does Otule NEED the 6th year? Hasn't he been here long enough? He's costing us chances every year with his injuries. We already have Gardner and then Durley coming in so we are good at center after Otule graduates. I think Durley will turn out to be better than Otule anyway. That takes care of getting Nunn. THEN, we could also get Parker if someone (JWilson, Mayo) decides to leave early for the draft.
Why would Otule
want to stay here a sixth year? Unless he's getting his MBA with tuition covered, I'd expect him to want to start playing somewhere for money.
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 03, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
Why would Otule want to stay here a sixth year? Unless he's getting his MBA with tuition covered, I'd expect him to want to start playing somewhere for money.
Idk, I'm not sure how anxious I'd be to jump over to Turkey, Uruguay, Japan, or some other godforsaken place to play for 50k a year. As long as I was getting free room, board, and education, I'd choose that.
As for Nunn, he's going to be a good player. Will he be a great player? I'm not sure yet. If he wants to come to MU and we have room, great. But I wouldn't be all for kicking kids to the curb for him (as previous posters have suggested). If it were Parker, then you'd have my attention...
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 03, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
Why would Otule want to stay here a sixth year? Unless he's getting his MBA with tuition covered, I'd expect him to want to start playing somewhere for money.
Why do people keep asking this question? Seriously, don't you think he has already talked to Buzz about this? Maybe he wants to keep playing in college and rack of a few graduate credits.
Honestly, have you ever heard of a division one college athlete who has been granted an extra year not using it???
I could have gotten a fellowship to pay for a year of a master's degree. I was hungry/greedy and wanted to start working, so I skipped the fellowship and took a job. Perhaps Otule feels the same way. If he felt that staying an extra year would increase his earning power, then it would make sense to stay. Otherwise go get a paycheck.
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 03, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
I could have gotten a fellowship to pay for a year of a master's degree. I was hungry/greedy and wanted to start working, so I skipped the fellowship and took a job. Perhaps Otule feels the same way. If he felt that staying an extra year would increase his earning power, then it would make sense to stay. Otherwise go get a paycheck.
OK. Again, I wish people on here would stop applying their values to major college athletes. YOUR experience is NOTHING LIKE Chris Otule's. He is a major college athlete who has dedicated a good portion of his life to playing basketball.
I believe that both Chris and Buzz will figure out a plan that will work for all parties. I am all for him staying for sixth year if healthy and happy if he decides next year is it. Every kid should experience the college experience for as long as they and the school want.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 03, 2012, 04:31:22 PM
OK. Again, I wish people on here would stop applying their values to major college athletes. YOUR experience is NOTHING LIKE Chris Otule's. He is a major college athlete who has dedicated a good portion of his life to playing basketball.
Let me just also add to this, that if he gets hurt again next year, my guess is that he will throw in the towel.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 03, 2012, 04:31:22 PM
OK. Again, I wish people on here would stop applying their values to major college athletes. YOUR experience is NOTHING LIKE Chris Otule's. He is a major college athlete who has dedicated a good portion of his life to playing basketball.
Some posters (probably me included) believe that If Chris Otule doesn't return for a sixth year, MU has an opportunity to recruit a better player with the scholarship that will open up. Since all indications are that Chris is returning, some posters provide scenarios under which Chris might decide not to return, to comfort themselves into thinking that the scholarship might open up. It's not really surprising.
Quote from: jonny09 on April 02, 2012, 10:08:58 PM
I'm paying attention. I know that he knows what's going on. Have tons of faith in Buzz. Just got a little spooked he might not be a priority after we signed Duane Wilson who is also a great talent. Just don't think at the same level as Nunn
I agree with you and am sure Buzz is working it - thanks for your post. I wouldn't worry about the Wilson signing because any time we can get someone at his level you grab them - need to have one for sure rather than holding out for the top guy possible and then be left with nothing. I hate to say it, but if the No. 18 player in the country ends up wanting to come to Marquette I am 95% sure we are going to sign him. I hate to think of what that means, but you find a way to ink a player that big.
"I could see that Kendrick nunn was a national championship caliber guard from the first time I saw him."
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Quote from: Z F-B on April 03, 2012, 07:44:17 PM
"I could see that Kendrick nunn was a national championship caliber guard from the first time I saw him."
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You're better than that.
Quote from: MUFanatic4Life on April 03, 2012, 03:52:36 PM
Why does Otule NEED the 6th year? Hasn't he been here long enough? He's costing us chances every year with his injuries. We already have Gardner and then Durley coming in so we are good at center after Otule graduates. I think Durley will turn out to be better than Otule anyway. That takes care of getting Nunn. THEN, we could also get Parker if someone (JWilson, Mayo) decides to leave early for the draft.
Otule not getting a 6th year wouldn't take care of a scholarship for Nunn. It would take care of the scholarship needed for Duane Wilson. THEN, we could also get Nunn if someone (JWilson, Mayo) decides to leave early for the draft. Incidentally, JWilson will definitely be leaving early for the draft after he averages 18/8 next year. That's a given. So no need to worry.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 03, 2012, 04:31:22 PM
OK. Again, I wish people on here would stop applying their values to major college athletes.
Go ahead and wish all you like. I will continue to speculate. It's a board, after all. ::)
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 03, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
Go ahead and wish all you like. I will continue to speculate. It's a board, after all. ::)
I speculate that you have no clue what you are talking about. Fair? You have no idea what drives Chris Otule...you have no idea what conversations he has had with Buzz and his family.
Simply put, I have never heard of an athlete being granted a sixth year and simply deciding that he has had too much.
My honest opinion...outside of Jabari Parker, I'm not sure there's anyone I'd rather have with Otule's scholarship for 2013-14 than CO. Even Nunn. And I realize the schollie situation...just saying that having a 6th year senior center with Chris' wingspan, defense, and work ethic would be fantastic, and other than a one-and-done talent, would anyone we could add realistically be a better compliment for Gardner than the guy we already have? And considering that we have been mentioned with I believe 7-8 of the top-10 players in 2014, that's a perfect year to have a scholarship open up.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 03, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
My honest opinion...outside of Jabari Parker, I'm not sure there's anyone I'd rather have with Otule's scholarship for 2013-14 than CO. Even Nunn. And I realize the schollie situation...just saying that having a 6th year senior center with Chris' wingspan, defense, and work ethic would be fantastic, and other than a one-and-done talent, would anyone we could add realistically be a better compliment for Gardner than the guy we already have? And considering that we have been mentioned with I believe 7-8 of the top-10 players in 2014, that's a perfect year to have a scholarship open up.
I agree with mostly everything stated here. If Nunn was a top 100 center/power forward instead of a position where we have lots of players than I would take him. I would like to even out the recruiting classes, but Otule is very valuable to a team that I think can make a deep run that year. This doesn't mean I don't think we have a shot at Nunn. As of now I think we still get Nunn, no knowledge besides what has been reported. Nunn would be a great player to get, but Otule is even more key for that year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 03, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
My honest opinion...outside of Jabari Parker, I'm not sure there's anyone I'd rather have with Otule's scholarship for 2013-14 than CO. Even Nunn. And I realize the schollie situation...just saying that having a 6th year senior center with Chris' wingspan, defense, and work ethic would be fantastic, and other than a one-and-done talent, would anyone we could add realistically be a better compliment for Gardner than the guy we already have? And considering that we have been mentioned with I believe 7-8 of the top-10 players in 2014, that's a perfect year to have a scholarship open up.
Agreed - real nice perspective.
And to Sultan: "Nanny, nanny goo-goo". ;)