They compare MU's 91% graduation rate (which was recently a 100%) to UConn's 30% graduation rate. Uconn is getting a ban from post season because of this low rate.
They detail what MU does, interview Larry Williams, Pillarz and Jamil Wilson.
A lot of this was featured about 10 days ago in a segment on MU before the Florida game. This appears to be the full thing.
http://cnnpresents.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/30/the-real-march-madness/
The Real March Madness
Just how far will a college go to win the NCAA tournament? For a few teams the Secretary of Education calls "bad apples," it may be too far. These schools are not putting true student athletes on the court.
A new study of graduation rates will show almost half of the African American student athletes who will play in the NCAA basketball tournament will not graduate. And at some schools, the graduation rate for basketball players -black and white- is abysmal.
At UConn for instance, over the last four years, an average of only 25% of its men's basketball players graduated and only 14% of its African American players got a degree. Kentucky had a 31% graduation average. At Syracuse it's just about half. CNN's Drew Griffin investigates.
Don't miss 'The Real March Madness' this Sunday during an all new CNN Presents at 8:00 pm ET, re-airing at 11:00 pm and 2:00 am ET.
Thanks for posting that. Great watch.
Quote from: chren21 on April 01, 2012, 10:21:40 PM
Thanks for posting that. Great watch.
Really was a great watch. They presented the school as a model for doing right.
After hearing about how dumb Marquette's players are, I wonder what our friends to the west thought of that.
Quite honestly, I couldn't care less what UW-Granola thinks about my amazing alma mater. I'm extremely proud of the academics at Marquette, and the academic support Marquette affords its athletes. The student athlete standards I witnessed while I was at MU (1989-94) seems to be alive and well today.
Marquette just knocked it out of the park with that interview. Jamil was great.
All it shows for me is the UCONN part, where is the MU part?
I checked online as well, and only got the UConn part. I am hoping that perhaps the entire show will be posted after the repeat broadcasts are done. Looks like some of the prior shows had parts 1 and 2, so that leads me to believe that maybe the rest will be posted later.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 01, 2012, 11:12:16 PM
All it shows for me is the UCONN part, where is the MU part?
It was on cnn tv. That was just the promo.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 01, 2012, 11:12:16 PM
All it shows for me is the UCONN part, where is the MU part?
I believe I found the MU part.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azAcajV8qSI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azAcajV8qSI)
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 01, 2012, 10:42:48 PM
After hearing about how dumb Marquette's players are, I wonder what our friends to the west thought of that.
Ask Butch Badger, he is on this site quite a bit and he and his pals trash us on their scout site fairly frequently. They will say what they always say
Marquette has tutors doing the work
They're all Communications majors
The coursework is easy
Etc, etc
Who cares, they're just upset that we have caught up to them after they had their recent king of the hill moment.
This was awesome to see, especially in comparison to fellow BE UConn. Marquette got high praise from CNN, much deserved imo.
The tutoring program is not just for the mens team. All varsity athletic teams have assigned tutors. I have to believe that the men's program provides the funding.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 01, 2012, 11:53:42 PM
I believe I found the MU part.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azAcajV8qSI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azAcajV8qSI)
This was most of it. In the CNN Presents version that also included a soundbite from Larry Williams and structured it as more of a comparison of Uconn and MU.
I agree that MU came off looking great in this piece. At the same time Uconn came off looking like a bunch of scumbags.
Somebody mentioned there was a new PR firm contracted by MU. Hopefully this is the first in a long line of positive MU headlines coming through.
The former group was the Zizzo Group, I believe. They were the ones who came up with "Gold" and told the press that (and I'm paraphrasing it) "people don't like the Gold name now...but they will!" They were basically a PR firm that said how if they shoved something down the public's throat they'd eventually accept it. If they've changed, that's just fine by me.
Wouldn't surprise me considering a new pres and AD are in charge. Agencies are the first thing to get changed.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on April 02, 2012, 08:44:13 AM
The former group was the Zizzo Group, I believe. They were the ones who came up with "Gold" and told the press that (and I'm paraphrasing it) "people don't like the Gold name now...but they will!" They were basically a PR firm that said how if they shoved something down the public's throat they'd eventually accept it. If they've changed, that's just fine by me.
Wouldn't surprise me considering a new pres and AD are in charge. Agencies are the first thing to get changed.
Uh oh. Now PR Nightmare knows who to blame for the "Gold" fiasco. I am envisioning some scathing e-mails to the Zizzo Group soon on the way. ;D
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on April 02, 2012, 08:44:13 AM
The former group was the Zizzo Group, I believe. They were the ones who came up with "Gold" and told the press that (and I'm paraphrasing it) "people don't like the Gold name now...but they will!" They were basically a PR firm that said how if they shoved something down the public's throat they'd eventually accept it. If they've changed, that's just fine by me.
Wouldn't surprise me considering a new pres and AD are in charge. Agencies are the first thing to get changed.
They came up with the "Gold" name and only recently got canned? Seriously, you could have gotten better results if the school had given this out as a group project to a PR class.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 02, 2012, 08:51:03 AM
Uh oh. Now PR Nightmare knows who to blame for the "Gold" fiasco. I am envisioning some scathing e-mails to the Zizzo Group soon on the way. ;D
Worse, I bet they're now going to get poop in the mail.
Gold is still better than Golden Eagles.
Viva Bricky!
"perennial basketball powerhouse" - sweet!
And Jamil did a great job, came off really well in the interview. Props to him. I had no idea the school sends tutors along on the road trips.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 02, 2012, 08:51:03 AM
Uh oh. Now PR Nightmare knows who to blame for the "Gold" fiasco. I am envisioning some scathing e-mails to the Zizzo Group soon on the way. ;D
Gold was Crean's idea. You don't hire a PR firm to come up with something like that.
With that said, Gold is better than our current name. I've actually been thinking of this lately. I recall somebody at the time suggested the McGuires and, short of changing back to Warriors, I think that wouldve been great.
Anne Zizzo is on the BOT. That might help explain some of the boards decisions vis a vis the pr angle.
Quote from: Warrior's Path on April 02, 2012, 09:08:29 AM
Gold is still better than Golden Eagles.
Viva Bricky!
+24kt
I also very much prefer gold to the golden eagles. at least its something no one else is. Don't know why marquette jesuits didn't get some play.
Marquette Golden Wolves wolves be all up in our seal.
Quote from: Stone Cold on April 02, 2012, 05:15:39 PM
Marquette Golden Wolves wolves be all up in our seal.
That would be insensitive to wolves. We can't be having that.
If the CNN special doesn't get us any PR, maybe thechive.com will. Front page posting...
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 02, 2012, 09:27:23 AM
Gold was Crean's idea. You don't hire a PR firm to come up with something like that.
With that said, Gold is better than our current name. I've actually been thinking of this lately. I recall somebody at the time suggested the McGuires and, short of changing back to Warriors, I think that wouldve been great.
Do you have proof for your claim? That is disputed in several areas. You are entitled to your opinions, but not to facts you make up
Zizzo Group came up with it. http://zizzogroup.com/
Anne Zizzo, member of the Board of Trustees at Marquette University.
"But would Marquette remain the Golden Eagles, or something entirely new? Board member Ann Zizzo, of the Zizzo Group, and her team landed on the "Gold". The Marquette Gold. Really? But then again, the Zizzo Group also suggested we name the 27th Street Corridor "Boomgard"."http://www.jenders.com/2009/07/29/marquette-warriors-logo/
http://mu-warrior.blogspot.com/2005/05/marquettes-trustee-losers.html
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know kentucky's graduation rate?
Quote from: hilltopper03 on April 02, 2012, 08:54:34 PM
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know kentucky's graduation rate?
Their APR this year was tops in the SEC tied with Vanderbilt. That might be a better way to analyze them because they have so many kids that go pro. The APR doesn't penalize a school for a kid going pro as long as they finish out the semester of work they are there while playing.
That is one reason I don't think UK is cheating, at least not anymore. Caliprari has such a brand with the top players that they come knowing they are one and done. He doesn't need to cheat to get those kids anymore. Not now. Maybe in the past he or his boosters did, but not now.
Kentucky tied for first in APR scores in the SEC with Vanderbilt http://vaughtsviews.com/?p=11735
I could see Golden Showers.
Sorry boys. It's not The Gold, it's not The Golden Eagles (and that stupid chicken). Or anything else.
MARQUETTE WARRIORS.
Any questions?
Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 02, 2012, 09:05:23 PM
Their APR this year was tops in the SEC tied with Vanderbilt. That might be a better way to analyze them because they have so many kids that go pro. The APR doesn't penalize a school for a kid going pro as long as they finish out the semester of work they are there while playing.
It's also an added benefit for the one-and-dones that they can go back to school and finish the semester, have Cal invite some NBA scouts to school a couple times, and the trip's worthwhile for the scouts since they can watch four or five prospects including some lottery picks. No need for Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist to run around playing in extra games and camps. Good players at the majority of schools (MU included) have to make the difficult decision of quitting school to put in the extra work to get noticed or try to balance both - they aren't sure-fire lottery picks and inviting NBA scouts to Milwaukee to come see two likely second rounders isn't appealing. So in an unfortunate way the system actually gives Kentucky an added advantage.