Has anyone seen how much crap this guy is taking on twitter? My personal favorite:
"Mayor Barrett took a dump this morning" #donwalkerheadline @DonWalkerJS
I emailed him, and he didn't deny that he changed the article 20 minutes later after the initial rush of attacks on it. The second article saying that a 22 year old was in a bar, well that is just hysterical to me.
Quote from: jhags15 on March 21, 2012, 10:29:11 AM
Has anyone seen how much crap this guy is taking on twitter? My personal favorite:
"Mayor Barrett took a dump this morning" #donwalkerheadline @DonWalkerJS
I emailed him, and he didn't deny that he changed the article 20 minutes later after the initial rush of attacks on it. The second article saying that a 22 year old was in a bar, well that is just hysterical to me.
Amazing that the JS puts out stories and then edits them after they've already been published. They're a glorified blog at this point. In yesteryear you would issue a correction or retraction, which could easily be done by adding something to the bottom of the story.
I think it is pretty clear after the past couple days of pseudo-reporting and faux controversy, that the man is a complete f***ing joke.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 21, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
I think it is pretty clear after the past couple days of pseudo-reporting and faux controversy, that the man is a complete f***ing joke.
For the record, Walker's boss(not sure who he is) is a known MU hater. Coincidence?? I think not!
"blogs" are just an excuse for poor journalism.
The JS is the biggest piece of garbage out there.
Their are to many positives going on in the Marquette program to let a tiny paper interfere.
Did we really need a 5th thread on this topic?
Man, you guys have some thin skin. The article had nothing but facts in it. If you don't want to read about our players getting ticketed for being underage in a bar, then blame the players. I truly don't care that they were underage in a bar, so I really don't care that it was reported.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 21, 2012, 11:00:34 AM
Did we really need a 5th thread on this topic?
Instead of asking, can't you just nuke this thread with a simple delete button?
I don't care that they were in the bar AT ALL. I care about the timing of "the story" being released.
Article quotes bar manager saying the club, open only Friday and Saturday, closed early on police orders, but the "presence" tickets were issued for an infraction on Sunday. Shouldn't the reporter have included the time the club closed? This article would've gotten a D-minus from my MU J-school reporting professors.
Quote from: mugoose on March 21, 2012, 11:04:40 AM
I don't care that they were in the bar AT ALL. I care about the timing of "the story" being released.
Yes, so let's keep perpetuating it with endless threads.
Do you really need this spelled out - bar open on Sat, closing time is Sunday AM. Incidents likely took place after 12:00AM Sun...
Quote from: MARQKC on March 21, 2012, 12:17:58 PM
Article quotes bar manager saying the club, open only Friday and Saturday, closed early on police orders, but the "presence" tickets were issued for an infraction on Sunday. Shouldn't the reporter have included the time the club closed? This article would've gotten a D-minus from my MU J-school reporting professors.
Quote from: muguru on March 21, 2012, 10:44:46 AM
For the record, Walker's boss(not sure who he is) is a known MU hater. Coincidence?? I think not!
You don't know who he is but he's a "known MU hater"? It just sounds like some are looking for anything to complain about.
The tickets were issued March 12 and the story a week later. I don't see anything wrong with the timing.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 21, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
I think it is pretty clear after the past couple days of pseudo-reporting and faux controversy, that the man is a complete f***ing joke.
Walker is a Marquette graduate. Doing his job. Non story but the only reason it was brought up is due to the off the court issues the team has had the last 12 months. It's what the media does. Stories have legs and then die but can re-grow legs when the individuals, companies, or entities involved stumble (however minor) within a time period somewhat relevant.
MU has to remain clean for a few years is the probable situation. Otherwise every little incident like this will hit the media in some way. It is what they do.
I've been trying to figure out why the Marquette beat writer, Tom Enlund, hasn't opined? Why did this fall in Walker's lap? More evidence of Enlund's weak offerings or does the sports business reporter have better ties to the University than the actual University beat writer?
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on March 21, 2012, 05:21:40 PM
I've been trying to figure out why the Marquette beat writer, Tom Enlund, hasn't opined? Why did this fall in Walker's lap? More evidence of Enlund's weak offerings or does the sports business reporter have better ties to the University than the actual University beat writer?
Wouldn't the Marquette beat writer want someone else to write this garbage article?
I can't see where him writing this piece would win him any points with Buzz, MU, etc.
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 21, 2012, 05:29:39 PM
Wouldn't the Marquette beat writer want someone else to write this garbage article?
I can't see where him writing this piece would win him any points with Buzz, MU, etc.
+1 Enlund would never get another interview with Buzz or a player if he was the one pushing this story. He can claim not to be involved if Walker is the one doing all the dirty reporting.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 21, 2012, 04:47:33 PM
Walker is a Marquette graduate. Doing his job. Non story but the only reason it was brought up is due to the off the court issues the team has had the last 12 months. It's what the media does. Stories have legs and then die but can re-grow legs when the individuals, companies, or entities involved stumble (however minor) within a time period somewhat relevant.
MU has to remain clean for a few years is the probable situation. Otherwise every little incident like this will hit the media in some way. It is what they do.
He's not a graduate. He dropped out.
according to one tool (Bill Micheals), the other tool (Don Walker) used a lawyer to make sure the open records request happened...
douchebags all the way around in my book...
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 21, 2012, 05:29:39 PM
Wouldn't the Marquette beat writer want someone else to write this garbage article?
I can't see where him writing this piece would win him any points with Buzz, MU, etc.
That's a given. But at the same time it's not like Enlund has really
gained any points this season. He doesn't do anything in depth. He rarely writes any recruiting articles. He doesn't go above and beyond the normal game-based reporting so you figure a publication that recently hasn't been concerned about its relationship with the MU program wouldn't care who "breaks" the story.
Quote from: MUeagle05 on March 21, 2012, 06:22:24 PM
+1 Enlund would never get another interview with Buzz or a player if he was the one pushing this story. He can claim not to be involved if Walker is the one doing all the dirty reporting.
The AD should conveniently "misplace" don walker's season ticket renewal invoice for next year then.
Quote from: Hitman on March 21, 2012, 06:36:58 PM
He's not a graduate. He dropped out.
Sour grapes anyone...
I could care less that they were in the bar - we've all done it.
But.... the messenger is not the problem. It's always easy to fall back to the easiest cop out.
If anyone paid attention, we know why it came out now and why it was walker.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 21, 2012, 07:06:30 PM
according to one tool (Bill Micheals), the other tool (Don Walker) used a lawyer to make sure the open records request happened...
Bill Michaels is still in Milwaukee? How have I survived not knowing this?
Quote from: muwarrior87 on March 21, 2012, 08:08:39 PM
Sour grapes anyone...
true nonetheless, well time joke, even if political. i'm guessing the walker at issue in this thread DID graduate from the fine journalism college at Marquette, but maybe missed a class or two.
A self loathing Walker. He's a hater who hates....himself!
An amazing amount of blaming the messenger here.
An incident happened, a few have happened. Some media members did their job and reported it.
Now let's win a sweet 16 game.
Quote from: IrritatedWhiteCat on March 22, 2012, 07:57:06 AM
An amazing amount of blaming the messenger here.
An incident happened, a few have happened. Some media members did their job and reported it.
Now let's win a sweet 16 game.
I think most people are questioning why this is coming up now, whether the story is news worthy, and if it should have been reported at all. A lot of stuff happens every day and the JS chooses what it reports. Why this, why now, and why double down on it with multiple follow-up blog postings that don't really add anything to the story except to continue to bring attention to it?
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 21, 2012, 07:06:30 PM
according to one tool (Bill Micheals), the other tool (Don Walker) used a lawyer to make sure the open records request happened...
douchebags all the way around in my book...
Oh yes....God forbid that a newspaper guy files an open records request. I'm sure that has never happened before.
Quote from: MUeagle05 on March 22, 2012, 08:05:54 AM
I think most people are questioning why this is coming up now, whether the story is news worthy, and if it should have been reported at all. A lot of stuff happens every day and the JS chooses what it reports. Why this, why now, and why double down on it with multiple follow-up blog postings that don't really add anything to the story except to continue to bring attention to it?
I can't address the volume of reporting other than saying "slow news days".
However, I can address the fact that it WAS reported. It's TOPICAL. MU had some "off the court issues" last season. They were reported, MU took action, and for the most part, that story has gone away.
Now a story comes out that the current players broke the law and received a ticket. It's a small law. It's not a huge deal. But, given MU's recent history, it's a story.
If they win, the story will eventually die.
Quote from: 2002MUalum on March 22, 2012, 08:25:46 AM
I can't address the volume of reporting other than saying "slow news days".
However, I can address the fact that it WAS reported. It's TOPICAL. MU had some "off the court issues" last season. They were reported, MU took action, and for the most part, that story has gone away.
Now a story comes out that the current players broke the law and received a ticket. It's a small law. It's not a huge deal. But, given MU's recent history, it's a story.
If they win, the story will eventually die.
The issue I have with it is two fold. The timing and the rush to get it out. Walker did not contact MU one time for comment before running the story. Then he continually kept updating the article as he learned the facts. If he did it the right way, it would not have been a big deal. He did not.