Thanks to the 2011-2012 team for a wonderful season. Especially to DJO and Jae who had an awesome senior year and received the appropriate awards for their performance.
Who would have believed at the beginning of the year that this team would be in the Top Ten, go 14-4 in BE play and receive a #3 seed. Especially after losing their starting center to a season ending injury and their backup missing almost half the year. Made for one of the most exciting seasons in a long time.
Play your heart out boyz......... Lets do this........
Well, it's been a fun year and all, but if this team doesn't make the S16, I will be left with a sense of unfinished business - like the Amigos senior year.
Quote from: nyg on March 15, 2012, 07:43:05 AM
Thanks to the 2011-2012 team for a wonderful season. Especially to DJO and Jae who had an awesome senior year and received the appropriate awards for their performance.
Who would have believed at the beginning of the year that this team would be in the Top Ten, go 14-4 in BE play and receive a #3 seed. Especially after losing their starting center to a season ending injury and their backup missing almost half the year. Made for one of the most exciting seasons in a long time.
Amen. I will be disappointed if they lose today but this team gave us everything it had.
Play your heart out boyz......... Lets do this........
Gotta win today. Got to.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 15, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
Well, it's been a fun year and all, but if this team doesn't make the S16, I will be left with a sense of unfinished business - like the Amigos senior year.
I feel the same way. Perhaps even more so this year since the injuries suffered haven't been to a first line player like it was with DJ.
I had come to terms with the deflated end for the Amigos but I'm still expecting great things to finish this season.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 15, 2012, 07:50:10 AM
Well, it's been a fun year and all, but if this team doesn't make the S16, I will be left with a sense of unfinished business - like the Amigos senior year.
Agreed -- but will this be a greater or lesser sense given that our starting PG is healthy this year. [as I nearly punch my wooden desk]
I feel if we want to consider MU as a destination and not as a stepping stone we have to make annual appearances to the sweet 16 at least. To me personally it sucks that the whole season rides on these two games on if the season was successful or not. We have to preform when the stage has never been bigger and when the lights are at it's brightest.
I'm hoping that this is the time we separate ourselves and Marquette will show America we we are a top 10 school for the next few years!
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 15, 2012, 08:36:39 AM
Gotta win today. Got to.
And Saturday....with the talent on this team, there is no EXCUSE, none whatsoever to not make the Sweet 16, minimum. I think Elite 8 is also very doable, and FF is not out of the question. Minimum Sweet 16 however or the season was a disappointment.
Quote from: JDuquaine on March 15, 2012, 09:09:16 AM
I feel if we want to consider MU as a destination and not as a stepping stone we have to make annual appearances to the sweet 16 at least. To me personally it sucks that the whole season rides on these two games on if the season was successful or not. We have to preform when the stage has never been bigger and when the lights are at it's brightest.
I'm hoping that this is the time we separate ourselves and Marquette will show America we we are a top 10 school for the next few years!
Very, very, very few teams make annual appearances in the Sweet 16 at least. MU isn't one of them, and almost certainly never will be.
People really need to appreciate and understand how lucky (and rare) MU is as a small private school in the Midwest to have a program as good as this one.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 15, 2012, 08:36:39 AM
Gotta win today. Got to.
Lose today and the entire season is a disaster. Unfair, but true.
Just to be mentioned as serious candidates for Sweet 16,Elite 8 and FF is an achievment to be proud of.
No one will be surprised if they accomplish any of the above
Quote from: elephantraker on March 15, 2012, 09:53:35 AM
Just to be mentioned as serious candidates for Sweet 16,Elite 8 and FF is an achievment to be proud of.
No one will be surprised if they accomplish any of the above
Sorry, but a #3 seed in the NCAA tournament that doesn't reach the sweet 16 is a failure. I would be willing to bet that the guys on the team would tell you the same thing.
We are past the point where talking heads on ESPN saying that we have a good chance to win 2 games in the NCAA tournament is an achievement. Maybe 10 years ago, but not now.
Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 15, 2012, 09:52:00 AM
Lose today and the entire season is a disaster. Unfair, but true.
Saying that losing a game in which we're a 5.5 or 6 point favorite can turn our 2nd best season in 30+ years into a "disaster" isn't just wrong, it's over the top wrong.
It's a cute story. But if you get bounced in the first round it's a failure. If you consider yourself a top 20 program then 2-6 seeds should be expected.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2012, 10:21:08 AM
Saying that losing a game in which we're a 5.5 or 6 point favorite can turn our 2nd best season in 30+ years into a "disaster" isn't just wrong, it's over the top wrong.
Success is measured by post-season accomplishments for better or worse.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2012, 10:21:08 AM
Saying that losing a game in which we're a 5.5 or 6 point favorite can turn our 2nd best season in 30+ years into a "disaster" isn't just wrong, it's over the top wrong.
Yet losing in the Final Four to some people here is still considered a disaster. Our fanbase never ceases to amaze me.
This has been a fantastic season. Last year, in my mind, the season was mediocre with a terrific post season. If we lose today or on Saturday, it will still be a fantastic season but unfortunately we will feel we didn't achieve what we were capable of based on the seeding and the matchups we have. Not often does this program get a top 4 seed. In 2003 we took advantage of it and exceeded our seeding. The draw is great, we have good matchups. In 1996 we had a 4 seed but didn't get to Sweet 16 despite playing a 12 seed in round two. Incredibly disappointing that year.
Let's take advantage of our draw, we have senior leadership, a great coach and get to the Sweet 16. After that, let the chips fall where they may.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 15, 2012, 10:21:08 AM
Saying that losing a game in which we're a 5.5 or 6 point favorite can turn our 2nd best season in 30+ years into a "disaster" isn't just wrong unfair but true, it's over the top wrong unfair but true.
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Just like last year's crappy regular season was washed away with a S16 run, this year's outstanding season /could/ be washed away with a first game loss.
Gotta win today, which I think we will do handily.
West Virginia was the most fun I've had watching MU since, at least, the 2003 Kentucky NCAA game. The Wisconsin game was really exciting too. That's how I measure seasons. Now if they'd somehow managed to beat ND......
Quote from: Henry Sugar on March 15, 2012, 10:33:22 AM
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Just like last year's crappy regular season was washed away with a S16 run, this year's outstanding season /could/ be washed away with a first game loss.
Gotta win today, which I think we will do handily.
Dead on about the S16 last year. It's amazing how that erased such a frustrating and disappointing regular season.
Must win both today and Thursday to make season close to complete. Last year they improved on regular season with strong showing and MUST do so again this year. I would be very disappointed with anything short of Elite 8.
Quote from: Goose on March 15, 2012, 10:37:03 AM
Must win both today and Thursday Saturday to make season close to complete. Last year they improved on regular season with strong showing and MUST do so again this year. I would be very disappointed with anything short of Elite 8.
Are we playing a double header today? Our guys are going to get tired
Quote from: Goose on March 15, 2012, 10:37:03 AM
Must win both today and Thursday to make season close to complete. Last year they improved on regular season with strong showing and MUST do so again this year. I would be very disappointed with anything short of Elite 8.
I'd say you're setting yourself up for some disappointment.
Murs I also loved the West Virginia game big time. It was my favorite game since the 2003 run as well. That game was old school and you could just sense the Warriors were going to win that game.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 15, 2012, 10:27:15 AM
Yet losing in the Final Four to some people here is still considered a disaster. Our fanbase never ceases to amaze me.
Certainly the last game of the 2003 season was a disaster, and an unmitigated one at that. But that SEASON was glorious, the most glorious MU has had in decades. This year's season has been 2nd to 2003 in the last 30+ years. Anyone who calls an entire season a disaster based on a single game, then or now, is just wrong.
Lazer I have been disappointed almost every year since 1977 and know when I team is capable of being special. We have been called FF sleeper or contender by many pundits over last month or so and have to live up to that. Not often are we a 3 seed or discussed as FF sleeper and that has to be where bar is set. Next year another story and last year the surpassed the bar set for them.
Lenny---If we lose early it is not disaster by any strectch, but would be disappointing. You know this program's history well and this team is special. Why not reach for the stars? Opportunities like this season do not happen often around here and I want to go DEEP into March. No doubt exciting fun team that wil be remembered in positive light and I hope in a season to remember light.
Quote from: Goose on March 15, 2012, 10:43:12 AM
Lazer I have been disappointed almost every year since 1977 and know when I team is capable of being special. We have been called FF sleeper or contender by many pundits over last month or so and have to live up to that. Not often are we a 3 seed or discussed as FF sleeper and that has to be where bar is set. Next year another story and last year the surpassed the bar set for them.
Fair enough, I respect your high standards. Personally, I''d set the bar at S16, the leap from 16-8 just seems like such a huge jump.
Quote from: Goose on March 15, 2012, 10:46:09 AM
Lenny---If we lose early it is not disaster by any strectch, but would be disappointing. You know this program's history well and this team is special. Why not reach for the stars? Opportunities like this season do not happen often around here and I want to go DEEP into March. No doubt exciting fun team that wil be remembered in positive light and I hope in a season to remember light.
Agree with this 100%, Goose. I'll be very disappointed whenever this team's season is over unless they're dancing on the court in New Orleans. That said, the math says there's less than a 3% of that happening while there's a 33% chance the season ends today. If that 33% comes to pass, I'll be a combination angry, sad, disappointed, etc., but I won't throw the team and coach under the bus and call the entire season a disaster.
Yes, these guys have given us a very nice, fun season and they should be congratulated.
But I feel like the guy in the Coke Zero ad - - - And??