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Title: Jae is POY!
Post by: MULS1999 on March 05, 2012, 05:19:46 PM
According to Adam Zagoria.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MULS1999 on March 05, 2012, 05:20:56 PM
Here is the full tweet from AZ: 

League sources confirm Jae Crowder of Marquette is Big East Player of the Year & Moe Harkless of #stjbb is the Big East Rookie of the Year

Congrats to Jae.  Well deserved. 
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 05, 2012, 05:33:45 PM
P.O.Y.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MarsupialMadness on March 05, 2012, 05:34:56 PM
Really really happy for him and he's playing his best ball of the season right now.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: chapman on March 05, 2012, 05:36:01 PM
Excellent.  He deserves it.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: tower912 on March 05, 2012, 05:37:47 PM
For entertainment, go to the WVU scout board or to the MU scout board for the flamers to come visit.    Congrats to Jae. 
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 05, 2012, 05:38:32 PM
A d-bag West Virginia poster has been bragging about Kevin Jones winning POY on the Hoops board all day.  

Can't wait to see his response!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 05, 2012, 05:44:19 PM
If this comes to fruition, no amount of attention or accolade is enough.

It will be a massive accomplishment for Crowder. It will be a massive accomplishment for Buzz. It will be a massive accomplishment for the Marquette program.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: chapman on March 05, 2012, 05:47:16 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 05, 2012, 05:38:32 PM
A d-bag West Virginia poster has been bragging about Kevin Jones winning POY on the Hoops board all day.  

Can't wait to see his response!

(http://stuffwhitetrashpeoplelike.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/couch_on_fire.jpg)

lol at source website for that picture: stuffwhitetrashpeoplelike

Oh, and look who's #1 on the Most Miserable States list that came out today: http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/05/10563467-americas-most-miserable-states
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: goldensean8 on March 05, 2012, 05:50:00 PM
People on the WVU Board are freakin out, quite entertaining
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on March 05, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
I can understand the WVU fans being disappointed by their guy losing out, but to be pissed about it is crazy. Whether you agree with it or not, these individual awards take into account your team's success and KJ hasn't done enough to make his team successful (even if he carried them to mediocrity).
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 05, 2012, 06:29:18 PM
Dude, I'd be super pissed if a player from MU led the Big East in scoring and rebounding and didn't win.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Aughnanure on March 05, 2012, 06:34:20 PM
Huggs has already tweeted his disappointment.

https://twitter.com/CoachHuggs/status/176823903052759041
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: ATWizJr on March 05, 2012, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 05, 2012, 06:29:18 PM
Dude, I'd be super pissed if a player from MU led the Big East in scoring and rebounding and didn't win.
wow.  not just pissed, but SUPER pissed! wow.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: jsglow on March 05, 2012, 06:45:19 PM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 05, 2012, 06:29:18 PM
Dude, I'd be super pissed if a player from MU led the Big East in scoring and rebounding and didn't win.

I concur.  But winning and head to head performance trump.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Aughnanure on March 05, 2012, 06:46:58 PM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 05, 2012, 06:29:18 PM
Dude, I'd be super pissed if a player from MU led the Big East in scoring and rebounding and didn't win.

+1, I'd be pissed but I wouldn't go all Mel Gibson Conspiracy Theory either. They've seen this coming for a few days now and its fun to watch the meltdown.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Canadian Dimes on March 05, 2012, 06:49:19 PM
The "best" players in a league that play for a shitty team rarely are rewarded as MVP.  Has happened for decades.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Aughnanure on March 05, 2012, 06:55:11 PM
Wikipedia confirmed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men%27s_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: marquettejr on March 05, 2012, 06:56:43 PM
Jae Crowder
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 05, 2012, 06:57:27 PM
Just trying to be impartial.  Jae deserves it, but I can understand the anger...
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MauraDay on March 05, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
What an amazing story and accomplishment. I'm sure he never dreamed this could happen while in JuCo. So happy for him!!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 05, 2012, 06:58:58 PM
AWESOME!

I think we should change the "Stud of the Game" section to the "Stud of the Big East" section until the game on Thursday!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 05, 2012, 07:01:25 PM
So pumped for Jae! That is awesome news...hell of a conference season he had!!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 05, 2012, 07:02:56 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 05, 2012, 06:55:11 PM
Wikipedia confirmed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men%27s_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year

You didn't really just cite wikipedia as confirmation that Jae won, did you...seriously?  Well, I guess we should all be glad that Big East officials took time from their busy schedules tonight to update wikipedia.


Edited to add:  Congrats, Jae!  Awesome news, and well-deserved.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Aughnanure on March 05, 2012, 07:05:54 PM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 05, 2012, 07:02:56 PM
You didn't really just cite wikipedia as confirmation that Jae won, did you...seriously?  Well, I guess we should all be glad that Big East officials took time from their busy schedules tonight to update wikipedia.


Edited to add:  Congrats, Jae!  Awesome news, and well-deserved.

Haha of course not...I have no idea who did that.  ;D
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MU82 on March 05, 2012, 07:09:12 PM
Just as people on this board always say:

National media, coaches, etc. have a pro-Marquette bias.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: NersEllenson on March 05, 2012, 07:10:22 PM
Pretty impressive to go from JUCO National Player of the Year to Big East Player of the Year in just 2 seasons.  Congrats to Jae!  His performance this last 2 months has been remarkable - he simply makes winning play after winning play.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: warriorchick on March 05, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
Quote from: Ners on March 05, 2012, 07:10:22 PM
Pretty impressive to go from JUCO National Player of the Year to Big East Player of the Year in just 2 seasons.  Congrats to Jae!  His performance this last 2 months has been remarkable - he simply makes winning play after winning play.

Even more impressive - from zero scholly offers in high school to BEast POY in 4 years.  Let's give him Most Improved while we are at it!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 05, 2012, 07:24:58 PM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on March 05, 2012, 05:44:19 PM
If this comes to fruition, no amount of attention or accolade is enough.

It will be a massive accomplishment for Crowder. It will be a massive accomplishment for Buzz. It will be a massive accomplishment for the Marquette program.

Summed up perfectly, Lanche.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: 77ncaachamps on March 05, 2012, 07:25:08 PM
So Huggins is upset.

Coaches can't vote for their own players, yet Jae was the only unanimous vote-getter on the 1st All BE team.

Huggins, you voted for the POY, Jae.

Smile and show some grace cuz your boy and team lost too many games...and Jae kept him in check when it mattered.

Congrats. Manimal!!!!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: statnik on March 05, 2012, 07:32:43 PM
While I was thinking earlier that I wouldn't mind if Kevin Jones was chosen Player of the Year, giving Crowder that much more motivation, the more I think of it, the more Jae deserved it so much that it would've been disappointing if he hadn't won it.  WVU fans seem to think that if you take Jae off our team, we would still be a 20+ win, NCAA tournament team, but they don't seem to realize we were missing both our centers for much of the season, so if you take off Crowder, the only guy you can consistently rely on on the boards and defending big men is Jamil Wilson, playing his second year after sitting out a year.  Crowder put the team on his back, finished with a bang, and that's what WVU fans who are pissed should realize.  I don't blame them b/c they don't know our team, but that is the honest response we should give them.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: mubb34 on March 05, 2012, 07:35:43 PM
Those WVU boards are funny lol....wow....Now they are all Pro-Big 12..I really hope they lose right away....Countryyyy roadddds
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: The Process on March 05, 2012, 07:45:52 PM
Quote from: jsglow on March 05, 2012, 06:45:19 PM
I concur.  But winning and head to head performance trump.

Winning isn't everything, right Matt Kemp?

(http://ditcradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/matt-kemp-rihanna.jpg)

But yeah, I agree:  Winning carries a lot of weight when the stats are close.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on March 05, 2012, 07:51:39 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 05, 2012, 07:05:54 PM
Haha of course not...I have no idea who did that.  ;D

Well done, sir!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Hamostradamus on March 05, 2012, 07:55:42 PM
The WV boards are hi-larious, they say they can't wait to get to the Big XII. Oookaaayy, first away game against Texas Oct. 6:  by car...1,399 mi, 22 hours 39 mins. Flight is only $482.50, 3 stops, 11.5 hours.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: jficke13 on March 05, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
I've never really understood the allure of reading opposing teams' fan boards. Why wade knee-deep through the crazy while reading stuff you know you're going to disagree with? And I really don't see the point of trolling with posts just to piss people off.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 05, 2012, 08:03:50 PM
It's now official as Wikipedia has updated with Jae on the list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men%27s_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year

And, Jae is the first from a former CUSA teams to win (Louisville, MU, DePaul and USF)
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: brewcity77 on March 05, 2012, 08:20:18 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 05, 2012, 08:03:50 PMIt's now official as Wikipedia has updated with Jae on the list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_Men%27s_Basketball_Player_of_the_Year

And, Jae is the first from a former CUSA teams to win (Louisville, MU, DePaul and USF)

Hahahahahahaaa!!!

And the UConn article I posted earlier about each Big East team fanbase as a Simpsons character comes true. The team everyone always forgets is Cincy! Brilliantly done, sir  8-)
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: NotAnAlum on March 05, 2012, 08:25:37 PM
The WV seem to forget that as Steve The Homer says "somebody has to score the points".  I feel like your team should either have to be in the upper half of the league.  WV didn't even live up to expectations.  How can you reward a guy in that situation. AND at the end of the day these guys went head to head on WV's home court and Jae completely buried Jones in stats.  That's it, case closed.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: StillWarriors on March 05, 2012, 08:29:15 PM
Quote from: statnik on March 05, 2012, 07:32:43 PM
While I was thinking earlier that I wouldn't mind if Kevin Jones was chosen Player of the Year, giving Crowder that much more motivation, the more I think of it, the more Jae deserved it so much that it would've been disappointing if he hadn't won it.  WVU fans seem to think that if you take Jae off our team, we would still be a 20+ win, NCAA tournament team, but they don't seem to realize we were missing both our centers for much of the season, so if you take off Crowder, the only guy you can consistently rely on on the boards and defending big men is Jamil Wilson, playing his second year after sitting out a year.  Crowder put the team on his back, finished with a bang, and that's what WVU fans who are pissed should realize.  I don't blame them b/c they don't know our team, but that is the honest response we should give them.

They saw 1st hand why Jae deserves POY. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MUMac on March 05, 2012, 08:30:49 PM
I'm happy, they are not.  I can live with that.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: statnik on March 05, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
Did anyone listen to Buzz's comments on his radio show tonight?  They have relevance to this thread.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MUDPT on March 05, 2012, 09:08:50 PM
As some WV fan wrote on Twitter, "number don't lie," as a pro Jones fact.  Crowder is the only Big East player ranked in the top 10 in Pomeroy's player of the year rankings.  Points and rebounds are not the only stat that's important in winning games.  
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Blackhat on March 05, 2012, 09:09:19 PM
Congratulations Jae!!!!!    Helluva year my man, name will be up there with the good to great ones.  

definitely earned a big ass poster of yourself to be put up in the AL.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 05, 2012, 09:09:30 PM
Quote from: statnik on March 05, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
Did anyone listen to Buzz's comments on his radio show tonight?  They have relevance to this thread.

what did he say?
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: The Process on March 05, 2012, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: MUMac on March 05, 2012, 08:30:49 PM
I'm happy, they are not.  I can live with that.

Sadly this time, there was no ballroom dancing involved...
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Donnybrook on March 05, 2012, 09:33:18 PM
Big 12 guys should not be eligible for POY award in the first place.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: bilsu on March 05, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
I just want to remind my fellow posters that I was telling you Crowder was the best player on our team back in December. Many of you did not agree with me.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Skitch on March 05, 2012, 09:50:58 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed and I've just missed it but does anyone know what Jae's prospects were coming out of high school?  What kind of attention/rating was he getting and who was recruiting him/offered him?
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: SacWarrior on March 05, 2012, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: Donnybrook on March 05, 2012, 09:33:18 PM
Big 12 guys should not be eligible for POY award in the first place.

This. I know the WVU fans (see: Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel) are going to draw connections to this and them leaving the conference but Jae was the only unanimous BE first team vote-getter. Period.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Aughnanure on March 05, 2012, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: Skitch on March 05, 2012, 09:50:58 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed and I've just missed it but does anyone know what Jae's prospects were coming out of high school?  What kind of attention/rating was he getting and who was recruiting him/offered him?

I feel I remember something about Jae being fat and overweight for most of high school,and only around his junior/senior did really start to focus and play, but it was too late to really be recruited heavily.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Buchec18 on March 05, 2012, 10:19:04 PM
I think this is appropriate.

(http://i.imgur.com/tAdcn.jpg)


Congrats to Jae!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Dawson Rental on March 05, 2012, 10:50:15 PM
Quote from: Hamostradamus on March 05, 2012, 07:55:42 PM
The WV boards are hi-larious, they say they can't wait to get to the Big XII. Oookaaayy, first away game against Texas Oct. 6:  by car...1,399 mi, 22 hours 39 mins. Flight is only $482.50, 3 stops, 11.5 hours.

Playing against schools like Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, they probably have a lock on the POY for the Big 12.  ::)
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: statnik on March 05, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Quote from: Z F-B on March 05, 2012, 09:09:30 PM
what did he say?

He said he doesn't believe in voting for the All-Conference teams because coaches can't choose their own players.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: SacWarrior on March 05, 2012, 11:23:49 PM
Oh so you're leaving our conference?

Well how about if we beat you on your home floor in your most important game, dance on your logo and then steal the Big East Player of the Year from your supposed "lock"?

Enjoy flying to Texas after class all next year
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Buchec18 on March 05, 2012, 11:47:55 PM
This is by far my favorite post on their forum right now.

"The catholic schools ban together and vote for their one chosen catholic rep, Crowder. Loyalist UConn also votes that way to prevent the WVU player from getting it. Jones doesnt have enough votes to counter, with additional votes being split between him, Crowder and Odom. Huggins cant vote for his man, so he votes probably for Odom. Buzz votes probably Kris Joseph to assure no vote for KJ.

Sounds like the Corrupt Bargain a little doesnt it? Turns out that was real as well."

I literally almost just fell off of my chair.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 06, 2012, 05:00:08 AM
Flying after class??? We're talking W. Va. here.

Kudos, Jae.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: chren21 on March 06, 2012, 06:03:04 AM
Quote from: SacWarrior on March 05, 2012, 11:23:49 PM
Oh so you're leaving our conference?

Well how about if we beat you on your home floor in your most important game, dance on your logo and then steal the Big East Player of the Year from your supposed "lock"?

Enjoy flying to Texas after class all next year

I have throughly enjoyed reading all the posts about the poor wvu fans. God it feels so great but I would trade the poy right now for a final four in a snap. 
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 06, 2012, 06:32:32 AM
Quote from: Buchec18 on March 05, 2012, 11:47:55 PM
This is by far my favorite post on their forum right now.

"The catholic schools ban together and vote for their one chosen catholic rep, Crowder. Loyalist UConn also votes that way to prevent the WVU player from getting it. Jones doesnt have enough votes to counter, with additional votes being split between him, Crowder and Odom. Huggins cant vote for his man, so he votes probably for Odom. Buzz votes probably Kris Joseph to assure no vote for KJ.

Sounds like the Corrupt Bargain a little doesnt it? Turns out that was real as well."

I literally almost just fell off of my chair.

LOL.  Yeah, because its a widely known fact that all Catholic schools band together when it is time to vote for POY.  Additionally, Buzz was very, 'as a matter of fact' when asked who he was voting BEPOY... Kevin Jones.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MU_LOL on March 06, 2012, 07:22:24 AM
Ummmmm pretty sure MU wouldn't be where we are in the BE if it wasn't for Jae Crowder. In fact, we'd be 9-9 too or maybe a little better; ergo, Jae remains BOSS of the BE.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: CTWarrior on March 06, 2012, 07:58:23 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think we have had 2 conference POYs before Jae in our history.  Jim McIlvaine was the Great Midwest POY in 1994 and Dwyane Wade was CUSA POY in 2003.  In both cases we finished first in the league but lost our first conference tournament game. 

I'd rather other guys win the awards and we win the tournament games. 

As for Crowder vs Jones, I guess traditional metrics favor Jones and advanced metrics favor Crowder.  Couldn't go wrong with either guy, IMO.  I guess W/L record of respective teams was deciding factor. 
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: PVMagic on March 06, 2012, 08:21:30 AM
Wow.  There isn't a crappier fan base in the country than WVU.  Good riddance.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 06, 2012, 08:52:31 AM
Congratulations Jae for the well deserved honor.  Thank you for a great two years!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MU B2002 on March 06, 2012, 09:02:35 AM
TWITTER TRACKER

https://twitter.com/#!/JeffEisenberg

If Jae Crowder tweeted video of himself dancing to 'Country Roads' tonight the internet in West Virginia might break.


Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MUMac on March 06, 2012, 09:04:54 AM
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 06, 2012, 09:02:35 AM
TWITTER TRACKERhttps://twitter.com/#!/JeffEisenberg

If Jae Crowder tweeted video of himself dancing to 'Country Roads' tonight the internet in West Virginia might break.

LOL That was great.  Would love to see Jae dancing to that.  Guessing it wouldn't be a two step, though!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 06, 2012, 09:13:51 AM
Mods,
<<<<Please change the category on the left to SOTBE.  Keep the picture.  May want to Photoshop a WVU tatoo on the arm.  Thanks
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: 🏀 on March 06, 2012, 09:15:48 AM
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 06, 2012, 09:02:35 AM
TWITTER TRACKERhttps://twitter.com/#!/JeffEisenberg

If Jae Crowder tweeted video of himself dancing to 'Country Roads' tonight the internet in West Virginia might break.




Awesome Twitter Tracker use.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 06, 2012, 09:19:50 AM
SO when will the league officially announce Jae as POY?
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Marquette Mama on March 06, 2012, 09:20:39 AM
Quote from: Skitch on March 05, 2012, 09:50:58 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed and I've just missed it but does anyone know what Jae's prospects were coming out of high school?  What kind of attention/rating was he getting and who was recruiting him/offered him?

To add to Aughnanure's summary: Jae's first year of JUCO ball was with an unaccredited school.  A Big East coach suggested that Jae move to an accredited JUCO, so that his academics would transfer if/when he got a chance to play at a higher level.  That coach was Bob Huggins. Sweet irony.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: brewcity77 on March 06, 2012, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 06, 2012, 09:19:50 AMSO when will the league officially announce Jae as POY?

Between the first and second sessions of the BET this afternoon. Also will name COY then...and hearing that it's NOT Brey.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 06, 2012, 10:02:49 AM
I'm gonna have to get that Country Roads song on my iTunes...
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: bamamarquettefan on March 06, 2012, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on March 05, 2012, 06:29:18 PM
Dude, I'd be super pissed if a player from MU led the Big East in scoring and rebounding and didn't win.

True, but if roles were reversed I'd feel a little guilty arguing if Kevin Jones had come into the Bradley Center and dominated Jae 26 points to 12 points to take player of the week.

I love Kevin Jones, but if he had just held his own against Jae in Morgantown that day he would have had the title wrapped up, but getting dominated like that opened the door, and Jae followed that up with another player of the week and then a pick by ESPN as one of the top 4 performers in the country the final week.

I've had them both in my top 4 all year in Value Add, but had Jae nudging ahead of Jones a few weeks ago.

But I don't want to direct any criticism at Jones.  He seems like a great guy, and a wonderful player, but Jae was just a little bit better.

I remember living in Virginia and being outraged when Ralph Sampson was ripped off for Player of the Year in a conspiracy to pretend that some punk named Michael Jordan was better!

I am glad the SI 2nd team all-american came right on it's heals too.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 06, 2012, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: ATWizJr on March 05, 2012, 06:44:28 PM
wow.  not just pissed, but SUPER pissed! wow.

Actually, not SUPER pissed.  just super pissed.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on March 06, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on March 06, 2012, 10:06:44 AM
True, but if roles were reversed I'd feel a little guilty arguing if Kevin Jones had come into the Bradley Center and dominated Jae 26 points to 12 points to take player of the week.

I love Kevin Jones, but if he had just held his own against Jae in Morgantown that day he would have had the title wrapped up, but getting dominated like that opened the door, and Jae followed that up with another player of the week and then a pick by ESPN as one of the top 4 performers in the country the final week.

I've had them both in my top 4 all year in Value Add, but had Jae nudging ahead of Jones a few weeks ago.

But I don't want to direct any criticism at Jones.  He seems like a great guy, and a wonderful player, but Jae was just a little bit better.

I remember living in Virginia and being outraged when Ralph Sampson was ripped off for Player of the Year in a conspiracy to pretend that some punk named Michael Jordan was better!

I am glad the SI 2nd team all-american came right on it's heals too.

That's because you're a reasonable person, bama.  But we all know this board would have exploded if the roles were reversed. 
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on March 06, 2012, 10:37:52 AM
Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on March 06, 2012, 10:02:49 AM
I'm gonna have to get that Country Roads song on my iTunes...


This made me go listen to it on youtube. Hard not to smile.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 06, 2012, 10:41:00 AM
In my mind, this is far less controversial than Kemba not winning last year.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: PVMagic on March 06, 2012, 10:49:07 AM
I'm assuming it was probably a very close vote.  Jae was better at the end.  I know it's a vote for the BE season, but that still makes a difference.  I do wonder who didn't vote Jones for the BE first team though (oh wait, the WV fans know it was Buzz).  That is definitely surprising..

Jae getting the support of many of the national pundits (minus Dickie V) and coming in ahead of Jones on the All American teams further justifies the selection.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 06, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
This might be the greatest thread ever:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2509&t=8770125 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2509&t=8770125)

They are coming up with ways to get back at the Big East!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 06, 2012, 01:30:26 PM
Not bad for a JUCO transfer - looks like we need a few more of those!  Next up - MOP of the NCAA.  Anyone else feeling a triple double (points, rebounds, steals) over one seed Kentucky to send us back to New Orleans???  Anyone?  Just me?
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: warriorchick on March 06, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 06, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
This might be the greatest thread ever:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2509&t=8770125 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2509&t=8770125)

They are coming up with ways to get back at the Big East!



This is my favorite response:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/15u2wg_th.png)

Hee hee!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: LON on March 06, 2012, 01:37:16 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 06, 2012, 01:35:42 PM


This is my favorite response:

(http://i43.tinypic.com/15u2wg_th.png)

Hee hee!

Not a fan of the dude that posts no messages, but just pictures from the Civil War?
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on March 06, 2012, 01:53:21 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 06, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
This might be the greatest thread ever:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2509&t=8770125 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2509&t=8770125)

They are coming up with ways to get back at the Big East!

Those idiots are ONLY considering points and rebounds for the whole season. They fail to recognize that the vote is based on conference play ONLY.  A monster omission by them.  They're like politicians trying to skew statistics in their favor. Of course,  we all know that a player's value is determined by more than just points and rebounds.  Crowder has better overall numbers.  Who gives a flying frack that Jones had the scoring title anyway! So what if Jones scored 18 more points over the course of a season......in 69 more minutes......that deserves POY???  ::)

It's funny how no national writers are talking about this "Biggest Injustice in Big East History!"  In fact, Goodman and Parrish have flat out said Jae deserved it.....only to get attacked by moonshine-riddled livers. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MU_LOL on March 06, 2012, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 06, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
This might be the greatest thread ever:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2509&t=8770125 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2509&t=8770125)


None of these posters mentoined anything about being NINE-AND-NINE
C'mon son.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: bamamarquettefan on March 06, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
Here is what I left for WVU fans on the page - I understand their disappointment, because Jones had it wrapped up until Jae came into Morgantown and stole it - but Jae stole it on the court head to head and deserved it:

But still, the problem with the conspiracy theory is that www.kenpom.com has become the most widely read stat rating over the past few years, and he rates Crowder in the top 10 in the country and not Jones.  Bleacher Reports listed Crowder 5th and Jones 10th.  One of ESPN's basketball columnist listed Johnson-Odom as the 5th best player in the country a few weeks ago, and then came back after Crowder's strong finish said two weeks ago the BE POY was between Crowder and DJO.

So you can't say a conspiracy extended to statistical ratings, which have no biases, and national media.

As for WVU being punished for leaving, hard to argue that when Syracuse - also leaving - grabbed the defensive player of the year and 6th man of the year vote by the same coaches.  True that Crowder had a much better supporting cast, but the flip side is being a one-man team meant Jones didn't have to share.  He took more than 100 shots MORE than Crowder to barely beat him out in points.  Crowder shot 62% on 2-pointers to 59% for Jones.  Crowder shot 36% on 3-pointers to 28% for Jones.  So I am not sure you can say that the guy who took 3 more shots a game to score one more point a game is the better scorer.

On defense Crowder was much better, stealing the ball more than three times as often as Jones and blocking shots more often than Jones even though he is two inches shorter.  Crowder also guards all 5 positions, as he showed by holding Jones to 12 points and then on the last possession, matched up with Truck since MU's guards couldn't contain him and forced a shot that missed the rim by three feet.

Jones is the better rebounder, but Crowder is the better defender and scorer if you go by shooting percentage as opposed to Jones' 19.0 ppg to 18.0 ppg, which would basically be saying you'd rather have Jones taking 6 shots more every two games even though he is missing 5 of them and only making one.

I am not ripping Jones - I have rated both among the Top 4 most valuable players in the country, and I hope they both grab lots of honors.  Jones may finish ahead of Crowder in some (3rd team Sporting News), while Crowder will finish ahead in others (Pomeroy, Bleacher Report, SB Nation and 2nd team all-american in Sports Illustrated to 3rd team for Jones), but when two guys are this dominant, I do believe coaches probably looked to Crowder's domination of Jones one-on-one and him putting up 26 points or more in 4 of his final 5 games including that one, while maybe they didn't weight Jones two games around 30 pts in early non-conference games.

A great season and more importantly career for Jones, but the coaches aren't the only ones who just believe Crowder was a little better this year.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: Warrior3211 on March 06, 2012, 03:43:13 PM
Great line that WVU fans will enjoy from the JS article on Larry Williams:

"Williams inherits an athletic program that belongs to a major athletic conference undergoing big change. Pittsburgh and Syracuse, two marquee conference opponents, are leaving the Big East. So is West Virginia."

Implying WVU is not a marquee conference opponent, which I'm sure they would all love to disagree with.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: ATWizJr on March 06, 2012, 04:34:25 PM
Congrats Jae!  Well deserved!  We are all proud of what you and the team have accomplished this season.  Good luck in the tournament and beyond!
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MUFC9295 on March 06, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
And there it is!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/ncaa/03/06/Big.East.Awards.ap/index.html?sct=cb_t2_a4
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: warriors1991 on March 06, 2012, 05:20:30 PM
Quote from: MUFC9295 on March 06, 2012, 05:09:58 PM
And there it is!!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/ncaa/03/06/Big.East.Awards.ap/index.html?sct=cb_t2_a4

Stan Heath? Seriously? Let the arguing begin about Buzz getting gipped for COY..........


Congrats to Jae. Oustanding.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: PVMagic on March 06, 2012, 06:33:43 PM
WVU fans now certain they will get screwed by the officials in the BEast tourney (as per orders of the BEast office), as they've apparently been doing all year long.

Honestly, I don't think there is a less intelligent, out of touch fanbase in the country.  It's not a few crazies, but probably 95% of the fans on their boards who think Jones was deliberately left off because they are leaving, and can't even begin to conceive how Jae might actually be deserving.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 06, 2012, 06:50:16 PM
Cool video:

http://www.bigeast.org/BIGEASTTV/OnDemandFREE/TabId/367/VideoId/23367/Interview-With-Player-Of-The-Year-Marquettes-Jae-Crowder.aspx
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 06, 2012, 07:06:07 PM
Quote from: warriors1991 on March 06, 2012, 05:20:30 PM
Stan Heath? Seriously? Let the arguing begin about Buzz getting gipped for COY..........


Congrats to Jae. Oustanding.

If Buzz did'nt get COY than I'm glad Stan got it; the first really good season for USF since being in the league.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 06, 2012, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 06, 2012, 06:50:16 PM
Cool video:

http://www.bigeast.org/BIGEASTTV/OnDemandFREE/TabId/367/VideoId/23367/Interview-With-Player-Of-The-Year-Marquettes-Jae-Crowder.aspx

Wow! Jae did all that without his glasses.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: MattyWarrior on March 06, 2012, 07:27:52 PM
Hard work pays off. Congratulations to Jae and the whole team. Go Warriors!
Title: Video: BigEast.org Interviews Jae Crowder
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 07, 2012, 09:19:21 AM
http://www.bigeast.org (http://www.bigeast.org)

Right on the front of the Big East website is a video interview with Jae Crowder.
Title: Re: Video: BigEast.org Interviews Jae Crowder
Post by: JWags85 on March 07, 2012, 09:41:12 AM
Man he looks like Lil Wayne's beastly older brother there...
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: marquettefan on March 07, 2012, 09:41:48 AM
Quote from: MU_LOL on March 06, 2012, 07:22:24 AM
Ummmmm pretty sure MU wouldn't be where we are in the BE if it wasn't for Jae Crowder. In fact, we'd be 9-9 too or maybe a little better; ergo, Jae remains BOSS of the BE.

I have said the same thing on a few threads.  After losing Otule and Gardner, how wvu fans think, Marquette would have easily won 20 games, without crowder.  You need a new excuse wvu.
Title: Re: Video: BigEast.org Interviews Jae Crowder
Post by: warriorchick on March 07, 2012, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: JWags85 on March 07, 2012, 09:41:12 AM
Man he looks like Lil Wayne's beastly older brother there...

I think he looks like the hippest philosophy professor at Howard University.
Title: Re: Jae is POY!
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 07, 2012, 02:32:35 PM
Can we replace the stud of the game picture with this?

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/421729_10150608919407880_510722879_9204271_1488796294_n.jpg)
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