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Title: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Clam Crowder on March 03, 2012, 05:04:36 PM
Just saw we reached 19,087 for today's game. First time in the last two years? more?
Title: Re: Attendance
Post by: MUMac on March 03, 2012, 06:03:16 PM
Quote from: jhags15 on March 03, 2012, 05:04:36 PM
Just saw we reached 19,087 for today's game. First time in the last two years? more?
On the postgame, said it was the 3rd largest ever.  Nice crowd today.  Not just the paid, but nary an empty seat to be found.  Good crowd and energy.  Liked the chant to start the game by the Student Section.  Most stayed for the Senior Day festivities.  All in all, very nice end to the home slate!
Title: Re: Attendance
Post by: chapman on March 03, 2012, 06:04:46 PM
First time since 02-03 we only lost one game at home.  And thought I heard since 01-02 that we didn't lose a conference game at home.  I like that, cause I hate home losses. 
Title: Re: Attendance
Post by: connie on March 03, 2012, 06:46:48 PM
Students brought it today.  Big props.  Made the game even more exciting.  Sometimes you have to wonder if they understand the impact they can have on the building.
Title: Today
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 03, 2012, 07:26:05 PM
1. 19,144    Syracuse      March 7, 2009       L 86-79
2. 19,091    Uconn          February 25, 2009  L 93-82
3. 19,087    Georgetown  March 3, 2012       W 86-69
4. 19,085    Georgetown  March 1, 2008       L 70-68
5. 19,074    Wisconsin     December 11, 2010 L 69-64
6. 19,041    Georgetown  January 31, 2009   W 94-82
7. 19,037    Depaul         January 26, 2008    W 79-71
8. 19,032    Syracuse      January 29, 2011   W 76-70
9. 19,021    Pittsburgh    March 3, 2007        W 75-71
10. 19,020    Wisconsin       December 9, 2006  L 70-66
11. 19,011    Pittsburgh      February 15, 2008  W 72-54
12. 19,007    Pittsburgh      February 18, 2006  W 84-82
13. 18,949  DePaul           January 24, 2009    W 91-82
Title: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 03, 2012, 07:29:14 PM
http://issuu.com/marquettesid/docs/mubb_guide_2011-12

1. 19,144    Syracuse      March 7, 2009       L 86-79
2. 19,091    Uconn          February 25, 2009  L 93-82
3. 19,087    Georgetown  March 3, 2012       W 86-69
4. 19,085    Georgetown  March 1, 2008       L 70-68
5. 19,074    Wisconsin     December 11, 2010 L 69-64
6. 19,041    Georgetown  January 31, 2009   W 94-82
7. 19,037    Depaul         January 26, 2008    W 79-71
8. 19,032    Syracuse      January 29, 2011   W 76-70
9. 19,021    Pittsburgh    March 3, 2007        W 75-71
10. 19,020    Wisconsin       December 9, 2006  L 70-66
11. 19,011    Pittsburgh      February 15, 2008  W 72-54
12. 19,007    Pittsburgh      February 18, 2006  W 84-82
13. 18,949  DePaul           January 24, 2009    W 91-82
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: JoBo2756 on March 03, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
When did MU start playing in the BC? Is it significant that all of these sell-out crowds have been in the Big East era?
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 03, 2012, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: JoBo2756 on March 03, 2012, 07:31:01 PM
When did MU start playing in the BC? Is it significant that all of these sell-out crowds have been in the Big East era?

1989 - Moved to Bradley Center

           National
Year      Rank                Average
1989       23                   11,954
1990       21                   13,301
1991       18                   13,433
1992    not top 25           12,613
1993       20                   13,443
1994       14                   14,340
1995       25                   12,814
1996       16                   12,751
1997    not top 25           12,247
1998    not top 25           11,508   
1999    not top 25           12,145
2000    not top 25           9,971
2001    not top 25           11,360
2002       12                   12,680
2003       11                   15,553
2004       12                   15,291
2005       21                   11,965
2006       18                   13,998
2007       20                   15,345
2008       14                   16,239
2009       10                   16,200
2010       10                   15,617
2011       11                   15,586     
2012       ???                  15,138

As explained in this thread, this year's decline in attendence can be explained by having No Wisconsin game at home.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=30756.msg360153#msg360153
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: chapman on March 03, 2012, 07:54:20 PM
We had lost our 4 most attended games prior to today?  >:(

Glad we undid that curse as well as Buzz's Senior Day curse today.
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 03, 2012, 08:08:58 PM
Final 2012 Attendance stats

Notice the last three Saturday games were 18,404, 18,815 and 19,087.  Yes the day of the week matters!

Day   Date   Opponent   Attendence   Average
Friday   11/11/2011   Mount St. Mary    13,834   
Monday   11/14/2011   Norfolk State   12,765   13,300
Monday   11/28/2011   Jacksonville   12,848   13,149
Saturday   12/10/2011   Green Bay   14,208   13,414
Saturday   12/17/2011   Northern Colorado   13,593   13,450
Thursday   12/22/2011   UWM   14,917   13,694
Thursday   12/29/2011   Vanderbilt   15,684   13,978
Sunday   1/1/2012   Villanova   14,550   14,050
Wednesday   1/11/2012   St. Johns   14,484   14,098
Saturday   1/14/2012   Pittsburgh   18,404   14,529
Monday   1/16/2012   Louisville   16,688   14,725
Tuesday   1/24/2012   USF   13,693   14,639
Tuesday   1/31/2012   Steton Hall   13,828   14,577
Saturday   2/11/2012   Cincy   18,815   14,879
Wednesday   2/22/2012   Rutgers   14,807   14,875
Saturday   3/3/2012   Georgetown   19,087   15,138
Title: Re: Today
Post by: 77fan88warrior on March 04, 2012, 12:35:32 AM
The best part is that it's the only W in the top 5!
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: marquette09 on March 04, 2012, 12:51:41 AM
NOT TRY TO TURN THIS INTO A CREAN v. BUZZ thread, but it's interesting that some here talk about Tom and "promoting the record crowds" but the top 3 attended games (and 5 of the top 6) have been in the Buzz era. 
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 04, 2012, 05:26:57 AM
Not one word from Buzz 'bout it either. Little more discreet in his self promotion, aina? Refreshing
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 04, 2012, 07:07:35 AM
Season-ticket sales went down by almost 1,000. Due in part that the price went up.
Title: Re: Today
Post by: MUFC9295 on March 04, 2012, 08:09:47 AM
I remember that double header against Pitt.  Epic games and turnout.  Would have been better if those four assh*oles hadnt left after the first game.
Title: Re: Today
Post by: WarriorDoc on March 04, 2012, 08:30:06 AM
We played a doubleheader vs Pitt? 
Title: Re: Today
Post by: MU B2002 on March 04, 2012, 08:36:27 AM
Um, we played at Wisconsin in December of 2011, and won.  Where is this craptastic list from?
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 04, 2012, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: mupanther on March 04, 2012, 07:07:35 AM
Season-ticket sales went down by almost 1,000. Due in part that the price went up.

Fact or conjecture?  That would surprise me.

I've always thought you could estimate the STH number by watching the lowest weekday cupcake game, where there are likely near zero walk-up sales.

Lowest attendance:
2011-12,765
2010-13,505
2009-13,511
2008-12,966
2007-12,992

Looks like from those guesses, 2011 did see a 700 drop in STHs.  I did not know that.  I remember talking to the ticket manager .. he said STH counts were highly correlated to last year's performance .. coming off a S16, you'd think MU would have at least stayed constant.    Amazing that 700 (or 350) accounts decided, bah, not worth it.

..which is silly when you can get one of those $125 plans for all the games .. just to keep your points going.


(Guess this chart needs updating .. http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/season_by_season_attendance)
Title: Re: Today
Post by: jficke13 on March 04, 2012, 08:48:37 AM
maybe it's a all-time state of wisconsin attendance list which would include an odd game played in the people's republic.
Title: Re: Today
Post by: MUMac on March 04, 2012, 09:03:56 AM
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on March 04, 2012, 08:48:37 AM
maybe it's a all-time state of wisconsin attendance list which would include an odd game played in the people's republic.
The Kohl Capacity is 17,230.
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 04, 2012, 11:38:25 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 04, 2012, 08:42:42 AM
Fact or conjecture?  That would surprise me.

I've always thought you could estimate the STH number by watching the lowest weekday cupcake game, where there are likely near zero walk-up sales.

Lowest attendance:
2011-12,765
2010-13,505
2009-13,511
2008-12,966
2007-12,992

Looks like from those guesses, 2011 did see a 700 drop in STHs.  I did not know that.  I remember talking to the ticket manager .. he said STH counts were highly correlated to last year's performance .. coming off a S16, you'd think MU would have at least stayed constant.    Amazing that 700 (or 350) accounts decided, bah, not worth it.

..which is silly when you can get one of those $125 plans for all the games .. just to keep your points going.


(Guess this chart needs updating .. http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/season_by_season_attendance)
This season 8,805 and 3,670 (Student)=12,475 season-tickets.

Many donation level seats went up by $125 per seat. Many old timers said forget it!
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 04, 2012, 11:42:42 AM
I think Marquette needs to get some deals going for upper level seats during the week, when they plays schools like USF, Rutgers & Seton Hall.

Marquette does draw very well in the 10th biggest building in college basketball, but there is always room to grow!
Title: Re: Today
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 05, 2012, 06:37:30 AM
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 04, 2012, 08:36:27 AM
Um, we played at Wisconsin in December of 2011, and won.  Where is this craptastic list from?

I believe the all-time attendance list above is now corrected.  I typed it in from the media guide from the last few years.

http://issuu.com/marquettesid/docs/mubb_guide_2011-12 (guide page 17)

Let me know if anything else looks wrong.

After the corrections Saturday's game remains the third highest attended game all-time and the largest ever crowd to see a win.
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 05, 2012, 06:45:40 AM
The 13 most attended games breaks down this way

3 Pittsburgh
3 Georgetown
2 Syracuse
2 Depaul
2 Wisconsin
1 Uconn

5 of the top 13 games are Pitsburgh and Syracuse.  They are leaving the BE.  Will this hurt our ablity to get crowds over 19,000?  Other than Georgetown, do we have to wait for Depaul to get interesting to see more crowds over 19,000?  Will Louisville, Cincy, or ND ever get a crowd over 19,000 (they have not so far)?
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Canadian Dimes on March 05, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 05, 2012, 06:45:40 AM
The 13 most attended games breaks down this way

3 Pittsburgh
3 Georgetown
2 Syracuse
2 Depaul
2 Wisconsin
1 Uconn

5 of the top 13 games are Pitsburgh and Syracuse.  They are leaving the BE.  Will this hurt our ablity to get crowds over 19,000?  Other than Georgetown, do we have to wait for Depaul to get interesting to see more crowds over 19,000?  Will Louisville, Cincy, or ND ever get a crowd over 19,000 (they have not so far)?


This list right here shows why the attendance is down a little this year. 

Of this list we only played Gergetown and Pittsburgh at home.  georgetwon was the highest attended win in program history, so that more than carried its weight.  Pisttsburgh entered the game with no conference wins amid a trainwreck season.  nevertheless there were the only two games from this list.  Additonaly, while not on the list Notre Dame is always a very big drawtoo, and we did not get them at home either. 
Bottom line the people that want to talk about bad support and crowds etc, need only look at these couple facts and way our attendance was down a few hundred people on avergae.  In fact one could probably quite easily make the reach that given the season we are having if we had Uconn, Wisky, Syracuse, etc. at home that the numbers would be huge!
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: MerrittsMustache on March 05, 2012, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 05, 2012, 06:45:40 AM
5 of the top 13 games are Pitsburgh and Syracuse.  They are leaving the BE.  Will this hurt our ablity to get crowds over 19,000?  Other than Georgetown, do we have to wait for Depaul to get interesting to see more crowds over 19,000?  Will Louisville, Cincy, or ND ever get a crowd over 19,000 (they have not so far)?


It's all about timing. The last Saturday game of the season and National Marquette Day are typically the biggest draws because those are games when a lot of alums from around the country make an annual trip to Milwaukee to catch a game.

1. 19,144    Syracuse      March 7, 2009       L 86-79 (last Sat home game)
2. 19,091    Uconn          February 25, 2009  L 93-82  (vs #2)
3. 19,087    Georgetown  March 3, 2012       W 86-69 (last Sat home game)
4. 19,085    Georgetown  March 1, 2008       L 70-68 (last Sat home game/Nat'l MU Day)
5. 19,074    Wisconsin     December 11, 2010 L 69-64 ("local" rival)
6. 19,041    Georgetown  January 31, 2009   W 94-82 (Nat'l MU Day)
7. 19,037    Depaul         January 26, 2008    W 79-71 ("local" rival)
8. 19,032    Syracuse      January 29, 2011   W 76-70 (Nat'l MU Day)
9. 19,021    Pittsburgh    March 3, 2007        W 75-71 (last Sat home game/Nat'l MU Day))
10. 19,020    Wisconsin       December 9, 2006  L 70-66 ("local" rival)
11. 19,011    Pittsburgh      February 15, 2008  W 72-54 (vs #24)
12. 19,007    Pittsburgh      February 18, 2006  W 84-82 (vs #9)
13. 18,949  DePaul           January 24, 2009    W 91-82 ("local" rival)

Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on March 05, 2012, 09:42:03 AM
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on March 05, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
This list right here shows why the attendance is down a little this year. 

Bottom line the people that want to talk about bad support and crowds etc, need only look at these couple facts and way our attendance was down a few hundred people on avergae. 

I have not read one complaint on this board about the number of tickets sold or announced attendance.  MU does very well in that regard.  It's the number of people who actually show up (impossible to track, apparently) that fosters all complaints.

The attendance for the Cincy game was 18,815 and the Georgetown game was 19,087.  The BC was a heck of a lot louder on Saturday for only having 272 more fans there.
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 05, 2012, 09:44:19 AM
Quote from: Canadian Dimes on March 05, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
This list right here shows why the attendance is down a little this year. 

Of this list we only played Gergetown and Pittsburgh at home.  georgetwon was the highest attended win in program history, so that more than carried its weight.  Pisttsburgh entered the game with no conference wins amid a trainwreck season.  nevertheless there were the only two games from this list.  Additonaly, while not on the list Notre Dame is always a very big drawtoo, and we did not get them at home either. 
Bottom line the people that want to talk about bad support and crowds etc, need only look at these couple facts and way our attendance was down a few hundred people on avergae.  In fact one could probably quite easily make the reach that given the season we are having if we had Uconn, Wisky, Syracuse, etc. at home that the numbers would be huge!

Even though Pitt was early in the BE season, and in the middle of collapsing, we still had 18,404 at the game.

If we do well this post season, and have ND, Depaul, Uconn, Cuse (if still in the BE), Georgetown and Wisc at home (and on a Saturday!) we could break the 2009 attendance record of 16,200/game.

Lots of ifs here but the schedule does suggest these are our homes games next year.
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on March 05, 2012, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 05, 2012, 09:44:19 AM
Even though Pitt was early in the BE season, and in the middle of collapsing, we still had 18,404 at the game.

No, we didn't.  We sold 18.404 tickets.  The BC was dead that game.
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: chren21 on March 06, 2012, 06:27:23 AM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on March 05, 2012, 10:47:02 PM
No, we didn't.  We sold 18.404 tickets.  The BC was dead that game.

Is there anyone else out there that thought the crowd could have been a little more consistent on Saturday?   Don't get me wrong I thought it was great it just seems like it easily could have been better.  Someone has to come up with more for the down times, it can be so quiet at times.
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 06, 2012, 08:03:25 AM
The BC was not died for the Pitt game.  ?-(
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Golden Avalanche on March 06, 2012, 08:52:49 AM
Quote from: marquette09 on March 04, 2012, 12:51:41 AM
NOT TRY TO TURN THIS INTO A CREAN v. BUZZ thread, but it's interesting that some here talk about Tom and "promoting the record crowds" but the top 3 attended games (and 5 of the top 6) have been in the Buzz era. 

Those first couple of games have more to do with the fact that the 08-09 team was one of the best squads MU has had in the last 25 years and people recognized it. Not to mention, there was quite a rallying point to that season since it was the first one after Crean left for Indiana.

No shock the casual fan lined up those days.
Title: Re: 3rd Largest BC Crowd Ever (Largest Ever To See A Win!)
Post by: Canadian Dimes on March 06, 2012, 02:17:32 PM
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 05, 2012, 09:44:19 AM
Even though Pitt was early in the BE season, and in the middle of collapsing, we still had 18,404 at the game.

If we do well this post season, and have ND, Depaul, Uconn, Cuse (if still in the BE), Georgetown and Wisc at home (and on a Saturday!) we could break the 2009 attendance record of 16,200/game.

Lots of ifs here but the schedule does suggest these are our homes games next year.


The finsh to this year will affect season tickets...what will really effect how those "big" games are attended next year is how we are performing 2-4 weeks before those games are played. 
Season ticket sales dont get u to 19k... Hype n success in the weeks leading up to the games does
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