During Texas-Baylor game
Was just going to post, you beat me to it. Bobby certainly knows his stuff, and I trust his evaluation.
I just hope we end up being one of the best 4, not 5 ;).
you beat me too it bama... i had to rewind to get the context, essentially said Vandy's best win was @ MU because they've come on to be one of the best 5 teams in the country.
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Basically how I feel with everyone giving our team props.
What does he think of Indiana? ;D
Damn ... this makes me dislike Bobby a little less, and I'm uncomfortable with that!
Bobby Knight calling us one of the 5 best teams in the nation?
People are taking notice. Now we gotta prove ourselves.
I prefer being the underdog...this hype is making me nervous, kind of like when we take a big lead too early in the game. Having said that...pretty awesome to see the love.
Gotta beat rutgers if we are the real deal.
Quote from: 96warrior on February 20, 2012, 11:24:21 PM
I prefer being the underdog...this hype is making me nervous, kind of like when we take a big lead too early in the game. Having said that...pretty awesome to see the love.
My thoughts exactly. I like it more when people dont notice and I always feel nervous when we get up big against any solid clubs.
and this in the same season I had to start kind of liking Pitino since he has fought so hard for the Big East!
Quote from: mviale on February 20, 2012, 11:30:14 PM
Gotta beat rutgers if we are the real deal.
Lets see if the Warriors can live up to the hype and get a couple more wins this week against Rutgers and West Virginia. It is great to be ranked #10, but it will mean much more if we are still ranked #10 or better next week. This is starting to get very exciting!
Lets Go Warriors!!!
It's important to note that, given how tough a coach Bobby Knight was, I'm sure he has a soft spot for "tough" scrappy teams like our Golden Eagles. In the past few years, when he has had the chance to comment on Marquette, he's always been very complimentary, and it obviously means alot to the team, but just as much, if not more, to Buzz I'm sure.
This should further prompt Texas fans to want Buzz. ::)
Bring back Godzilla. I want him to trash Bobby Knight for saying nice things about MU.
MU plays a style of ball that fits Coach Knight's eye. Lots of motion on offense, jump shots created by the pass, not off of the dribble, helping man-to-man defense, disciplined. MU pressures more than he did at IU, but that is minor. Time to acknowledge that this team can play and Buzz can coach.
Quote from: lenting on February 21, 2012, 04:28:05 AM
Sometimes you have to stop thinking too much and just go where your heart takes you.
lolwut
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2012, 06:47:05 AM
Bring back Godzilla. I want him to trash Bobby Knight for saying nice things about MU.
MU plays a style of ball that fits Coach Knight's eye. Lots of motion on offense, jump shots created by the pass, not off of the dribble, helping man-to-man defense, disciplined. MU pressures more than he did at IU, but that is minor. Time to acknowledge that this team can play and Buzz can coach.
That is what Knight really sees. He sees a very discplined and well coached team. I think in Knight's eyes we are Top 5, but not really. We are a Top 5 discplined, well coached team with a fair amount of talent. However, that does not make us a Top 5 team. Unfortunately, there are teams out there with so much talent and depth it offsets the fact maybe they are less disciplined and not as well as coached.
I would say we are a Top 15 team with a chance to get hot and make a splash in the tourney. Especially if Ox comes back soon. C'mon OX... we need you!
Quote from: Warrior on February 21, 2012, 12:32:36 AM
Lets see if the Warriors can live up to the hype and get a couple more wins this week against Rutgers and West Virginia. It is great to be ranked #10, but it will mean much more if we are still ranked #10 or better next week. This is starting to get very exciting!
Lets Go Warriors!!!
FYP
I have thought all along this was top 10 team and now think we might be upper half top 10. This team plays hard and causes havoc which makes matchups difficult for our opponents. On down side I would not be shocked if we lost in 2nd round or won the NCAA. If we play smart and defend anything can happen with this team.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 21, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
That is what Knight really sees. He sees a very discplined and well coached team. I think in Knight's eyes we are Top 5, but not really. We are a Top 5 discplined, well coached team with a fair amount of talent. However, that does not make us a Top 5 team. Unfortunately, there are teams out there with so much talent and depth it offsets the fact maybe they are less disciplined and noy sd well as coached.
I would say we are a Top 15 team with a chance to get hot and make a splash in the tourney. Especially if Ox comes back soon. C'mon OX... we need you!
This is the truth. From a purely "talent" standpoint, the top teams (UK, UNC, OSU) are head and shoulders above us and we're close to even with the 10-40 group. But we're unselfish, play to our strengths and outwork teams to compensate for our weaknesses. A coach like Knight or a cerebral former point guard like Anthony are drawn to that sort of team.
Bobby wouldn't say that if he knew this team doesn't practice free throws.
Quote from: MU82 on February 20, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
Damn ... this makes me dislike Bobby a little less, and I'm uncomfortable with that!
Why dislike Bobby? Just because he happened to have his best team in 1975-'76, so we had to be number 2 all year? He's always been decent to MU, might even have a secret soft spot for us. And, he did write the introduction to Joseph Moran's bio of Al McGuire,
You Can Call Me Al.
Probably got paid to do that Murray, aina?
Quote from: tower912 on February 21, 2012, 06:47:05 AM
Bring back Godzilla. I want him to trash Bobby Knight for saying nice things about MU.
MU plays a style of ball that fits Coach Knight's eye. Lots of motion on offense, jump shots created by the pass, not off of the dribble, helping man-to-man defense, disciplined. MU pressures more than he did at IU, but that is minor. Time to acknowledge that this team can play and Buzz can coach.
BOB Knight is also the first coach that I ever heard really pound home the making more free throws than the other team attempts. That was always his mantra on the offensive side. Move the ball, screen away and drive to the rim and get into the bonus as soon as possible and then keep doing it.
Buzz follows the exact same philosophy. Bob Knight and Buzz are the two coaches that have stressed that stat more than any other coach I have ever heard.
It is amazing how many times each year Indiana would do just that and the effect it would have. Free throws are the easiest shots to make and it often causes the other teams to play less agressive as they rack up fouls.
Mu also ends up positive in this category at an amazing rate, in fact it is one of the keys to our success. having grown up watching IU in their heyday 70's and 80's i personally always bought into this approach and in additon Knights motion offense.
Not to turn it into a Buzz vs Crean or Bobby vs Crean thread, but one of my chief frustrations with Crean apart from his personality was his stnad around offense and then call a set with 12 seconds left. Often times the first or second options would not work and we are forced to chuck up a 30 foot 3 pointer. Additonally it was not an equal oportunity offense. Under buzz cut hard and get open and u will get the ball.
It frustrated me to no end when we would play an opponent who would have a player pick up two quick fouls or a 3rd early in the second and we would never attack him. Bobby and Buzz go right at him. Recall saturday we posted Jae the first two possesion out of half time when Drummond had two fouls.
Buzz has very similar startegies to Bobby.
If you believe that experience counts, there can't be very many teams who are led by two seniors with as much tournament experience as Jae and DJO. Sure, this team has some gaps, but I think that is an asset that will pay dividends in March. I just hope we get Gardner back.
I also believe people like Knight, Anthony and maybe Bilas watch so many damn basketball games that they're throwing us out there because we're absolutely one of the five most enjoyable teams to watch. You can only watch so many Michigan State games...and I like the Spartans.
With that said (and I don't care a lick about our "seed") I could definitely see us in New Orleans if if a bracket falls our way. I felt last year that Xavier (the higher seed) got matched with us as an 11 seed and we were just a brutal match-up for them.
My biggest fear is running into some undersized mid-major that gets red hot from three.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 21, 2012, 09:22:49 AM
This is the truth. From a purely "talent" standpoint, the top teams (UK, UNC, OSU) are head and shoulders above us and we're close to even with the 10-40 group. But we're unselfish, play to our strengths and outwork teams to compensate for our weaknesses. A coach like Knight or a cerebral former point guard like Anthony are drawn to that sort of team.
Sad to say, from a HEIGHT standpoint, the top teams are head and shoulders above us. But MU sure is fun to watch.
Don't want to play Michigan State or U Washington. I'm sure Kentucky does not want to play us.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 21, 2012, 11:23:45 AM
Don't want to play Michigan State or U Washington. I'm sure Kentucky does not want to play us.
I'd get all queezy, if we were looking at Vandy too.
I like Bobby Knight much better as an announcer than I did as a coach.
"What's 12 inches long and hangs in front of an a##hole?
Bobby Knight's tie."
This used to be one of my favorite jokes. Fortunately, its versatile. ;)
Quote from: AZWarrior on February 21, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
"What's 12 inches long and hangs in front of an a##hole?
Bobby Knight's tie."
This used to be one of my favorite jokes. Fortunately, its versatile. ;)
Doesn't work for Crean. ;)
I think if we had to play Vandy or Syracuse today, those games would definitely yield a much different outcome. Both games were played in the midst of a major line-up change for MU, and today's team is quite simply a different team than it was two months ago. I'm not saying MU wins both games or even one of them, but they both may at least go down to the wire. Heck, play the ND game on a neutral court, and I think that game's outcome changes dramatically.
Frankly, after watching how well they dominated a much bigger UConn team on Saturday, I firmly believe MU can beat anyone in the country. I'm sure Buzz has them believing the same thing, and that's why nobody will want to see MU anywhere near their region on SS. The question is, can they do it six times in a row.
If I'm MU, there's one type of player that concerns me -- an experienced, true 5 who doesn't foul, can handle the ball, and is as complete on offense as he is on defense. Off hand, I can only think of one player in the country (of the likely 1-4 seeds) who fits that bill: John Henson. Anthony Davis would be there next year (if he's not in the NBA). Mason Plumlee, and a healthy Festus Ezeli might be a close 2nd-3rd this year. Fab Melo is not quite there, IMO, but he is the best of the next.
Teams with dominating power forwards like KU, MSU & WVU do not scare me. Teams that live by the three (ND) often die by the three come tournament time, and they don't exactly pose an insurmountable threat even if they do happen to be on their game. Top-notch defensive teams (UW) don't bother me at all. These are all teams for which MU has an answer... it all comes down to execution. However, that elite 5 in the paint is always going to give MU problems regardless of who does and doesn't execute. That being said, UK, Duke and NC would be very difficult match-ups if Gardner doesn't come back at close to 100%, but in a hypothetical round robin including MU... MU is going to win at least one of those games.
Granted, it's very difficult to win six late-March games in a row without a dominating presence in the paint, but that doesn't mean you can't rattle off a few upsets here and there. In theory, a 3-seed only needs to pull off (at most) four upsets to win the enchilada. And even then, there's two, maybe three teams that are as close to a guaranteed loss as the 3-14 game is a guaranteed win. For every other match-up in between, it's anybody's game... that's the beauty of tournament time.
I'll be very impressed if we beat Cincy this week....since we don't play them again until the 29th.......
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 21, 2012, 11:07:00 AM
My biggest fear is running into some undersized mid-major absolutley any team that gets red hot from three, since it seems to happen to often.
Does anyone else recall the game MU and IU played in March, 1985 in the NIT? Marquette lost in double overtime! Marquette played the last 30 seconds with only four players on the floor, all the others having fouled out. When has anyone seen that in a Division I game? ALL the calls went in favor for Knight with no Indiana player fouling out. Knight later said: ``I think that out of the five best officiated games we`ve had this season, three of them have come in the NIT.`` At one point during the first overtime, Knight was so elated with a call that he patted an official on the back. When asked about the 36 personal fouls called against Marquette to 21 on Indiana, coach Rick Majerus said: ``I don`t officiate the games, I coach the games.``
I drove down with some friends to Bloomington for that. Ran into Majerus at a gas station on the way back, which was very odd. But he saw our MU gear and was really nice.
Quote from: Classof83 on February 21, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
Does anyone else recall the game MU and IU played in March, 1985 in the NIT? Marquette lost in double overtime! Marquette played the last 30 seconds with only four players on the floor, all the others having fouled out. When has anyone seen that in a Division I game? ALL the calls went in favor for Knight with no Indiana player fouling out. Knight later said: ``I think that out of the five best officiated games we`ve had this season, three of them have come in the NIT.`` At one point during the first overtime, Knight was so elated with a call that he patted an official on the back. When asked about the 36 personal fouls called against Marquette to 21 on Indiana, coach Rick Majerus said: ``I don`t officiate the games, I coach the games.``
Hadn't thought about that in forever- thanks for bringing back the memory - even if it hurts a bit.
Don't forget, one of the 4 was the immortal Willie Hines. All 5'8 of him. The amazing thing was that despite the foul disparity, MU still took them to overtime at Assembly Hall. I view this as #2 on the list of games that if MU had won, would have changed the arc of the program. #1 was the UNC game in 86.
Quote from: Classof83 on February 21, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
Does anyone else recall the game MU and IU played in March, 1985 in the NIT? Marquette lost in double overtime! Marquette played the last 30 seconds with only four players on the floor, all the others having fouled out. When has anyone seen that in a Division I game? ALL the calls went in favor for Knight with no Indiana player fouling out. Knight later said: ``I think that out of the five best officiated games we`ve had this season, three of them have come in the NIT.`` At one point during the first overtime, Knight was so elated with a call that he patted an official on the back. When asked about the 36 personal fouls called against Marquette to 21 on Indiana, coach Rick Majerus said: ``I don`t officiate the games, I coach the games.``
I was at that game and had to drive home that night to Mequon. Going two overtimes and losing just made the drive that much harder.
Sheesh, Tower - between you and Class of '83, your killing me. That was the "Joe Wolf gets to play a game in his home state consolation game." Wasn't it Hale who torched us at the end. As I recall it, we were up around 8 or 10 with a couple of minutes to go...throw in any of the 6 ND losses, and this and the IU double OT are probably the worst of my 4 years.
Quote from: Classof83 on February 21, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
Does anyone else recall the game MU and IU played in March, 1985 in the NIT? Marquette lost in double overtime! ...
I was also at this game and the thing that I recall most vividly was how Majerus was wearing a light blue shirt at the start of the game, but by the end it was nearly entirely royal blue because of the sweat. He worked just as hard on that sideline as any of the players did on the court.
Rick always got very red in the face. Looked like he could pop a gasket at any moment.