Sorry to pass this on. Still cannot pratice, but knee is improving (slowly)...surgery is not even in discussion.
Davante is doubtful for UConn
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/139470188.html
Source....and don't say Enlund
I can't share source but if you look at my previous posts on this subject you will see I am 100% right on each time. Just saw the post on JSonline where it says DG is doubtful..he is not doubtful..he is out.
Athletics released the game notes today...he is listed as doubtful.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/release/release_20120216aaa.pdf
Seems I was really reaching with my De' De' post again.. :-*
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on February 16, 2012, 03:59:01 PM
Sorry to pass this on. Still cannot pratice, but knee is improving (slowly)...surgery is not even in discussion.
Hopefully he is healthy by BE tourney.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 16, 2012, 04:27:11 PM
Seems I was really reaching with my De' De' post again.. :-*
The one where you said that there was "bad news" after it was already said he was out for 3-4 weeks?
Yes you were reaching. The news is exactly as bad as it was supposed to be so far.
We have a right to know why they call you "Big Daddy."
Quote from: foreverwarriors on February 16, 2012, 04:19:13 PM
Athletics released the game notes today...he is listed as doubtful.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/release/release_20120216aaa.pdf
I didn't realize that we finished in fifth place in the BEast for four consecutive seasons prior to last season.
Draymond Green had the same injury and missed 2 games
Quote from: HOOP24/7 on February 16, 2012, 08:10:16 PM
Draymond Green had the same injury and missed 2 games
He's also about 60 lbs lighter.
Quote from: DCWarriors04 on February 16, 2012, 04:06:51 PM
Source....and don't say Enlund
My guess is his source is Devante Gardner. Might as well keep him out for the Rutgers game as well, they're terrible.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 16, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
My guess is his source is Devante Gardner. Might as well keep him out for the Rutgers game as well, they're terrible.
Does this Devante know Davante'? Sheesh
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 16, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
My guess is his source is Devante Gardner. Might as well keep him out for the Rutgers game as well, they're terrible.
Wrong, that is the perfect game to play him spot minutes, since it likely will be a W and it will give him an opportunity to get back in game shape before ths stretch run.
Quote from: statnik on February 16, 2012, 10:15:51 PM
Wrong, that is the perfect game to play him spot minutes, since it likely will be a W and it will give him an opportunity to get back in game shape before ths stretch run.
Well if u say so. Not sure why you risk bringing him back 3 days later to play rutgers. Give him the extra week and spot minutes vs a quality team....where his minutes will be needed.
Sorry jay, spelled his name wrong, please forgive me.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 16, 2012, 10:30:17 PM
Well if u say so. Not sure why you risk bringing him back 3 days later to play rutgers. Give him the extra week and spot minutes vs a quality team....where his minutes will be needed.
Sorry jay, spelled his name wrong, please forgive me.
I should say if he's healthy enough; there is no reason to have his adjustment period span one more game than it needs to when we're so close to the end of the season.
I'm figurin' DG isn't gonna be worth Sheesh the rest of this season. Tryin' to condition this dude and have him be a help in the Tourney, after this amount of inactivity, seems like a monumental task.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 17, 2012, 05:04:41 AM
I'm figurin' DG isn't gonna be worth Sheesh the rest of this season. Tryin' to condition this dude and have him be a help in the Tourney, after this amount of inactivity, seems like a monumental task.
Plus Buzz has to hone the team to play the way it is currently configured. DG may play limited minutes the rest of the way but there's no way Buzz can reshape things yet one more time to accomodate his style.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 16, 2012, 06:03:40 PM
The one where you said that there was "bad news" after it was already said he was out for 3-4 weeks?
Yes you were reaching. The news is exactly as bad as it was supposed to be so far.
3-4 weeks was never said by anyone accept you and Dodds. It was always listed day to day.
Quote from: jsglow on February 17, 2012, 07:32:57 AM
Plus Buzz has to hone the team to play the way it is currently configured. DG may play limited minutes the rest of the way but there's no way Buzz can reshape things yet one more time to accomodate his style.
Buzz said recently that when Chris went down he tried to change too much too fast and that's why we had some trouble adjusting for a while. Because of that, when Davante went down he said he changed nothing. I think that's because he knows Gardner will be back and he didn't want to change things mid-stream that he would have to change back again for the tournament. Don't think much if any reshaping will be necessary.
Starts at 5:00 mark in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ZJzVaAK54
Quote from: Jamailman on February 17, 2012, 08:27:03 AM
Buzz said recently that when Chris went down he tried to change too much too fast and that's why we had some trouble adjusting for a while. Because of that, when Davante went down he said he changed nothing. I think that's because he knows Gardner will be back and he didn't want to change things mid-stream that he would have to change back again for the tournament. Don't think much if any reshaping will be necessary.
Starts at 5:00 mark in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ZJzVaAK54
Yeah, I remember that. But do we really think we'd be 3/4 court trapping on defense as much if DG was on the floor? And hasn't Jae spent more time down low on offense?
Quote from: jsglow on February 17, 2012, 08:37:44 AM
Yeah, I remember that. But do we really think we'd be 3/4 court trapping on defense as much if DG was on the floor? And hasn't Jae spent more time down low on offense?
DG doesn't play 40 mpg, and we don't 3/4 trap more than 5-10 mpg as a momentum changer, regardless of whether or not he is available.
The one where you said that there was "bad news" after it was already said he was out for 3-4 weeks?
Yes you were reaching. The news is exactly as bad as it was supposed to be so far.
Please, share the link that said "3-4 weeks" before my post.
Thanks Chief.
Does Andy Katz know something that hasn't been written anywhere else on Scoop?
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/49068/transfer-keeps-marquette-rolling-along
Third-leading scorer and rebounder Davante Gardner is out at least for the next two weeks with a knee injury.
The coaching staff said Gardner may not come back until the Big East tournament. And Marquette coach Buzz Williams said he may not force the issue because he doesn't want to mess with the rhythm of this crew.
Quote from: Jamailman on February 17, 2012, 08:45:38 AM
DG doesn't play 40 mpg, and we don't 3/4 trap more than 5-10 mpg as a momentum changer, regardless of whether or not he is available.
I'm going to bet spot minutes only for DG down the stretch. Buzz has settled into a 6+ man rotation. Jae, JWill and DJO are going 36+ minutes going forward unless there's foul trouble or we're in a back-to-back situation durning the BEast tournament. Why? Because we're a markedly better team configured that way. I'm not eve sure coach would go to an 80% DG ahead of Mellow in the case of foul trouble right now. When he's needed to give us minutes, Mellow has contributed nicely. And he plays a similar style of ball to JWill.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 17, 2012, 01:36:01 PM
The one where you said that there was "bad news" after it was already said he was out for 3-4 weeks?
Yes you were reaching. The news is exactly as bad as it was supposed to be so far.
Please, share the link that said "3-4 weeks" before my post.
Thanks Chief.
This post (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=30175.msg351572#msg351572)
Was one day before your post (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=30235.0)
And was referenced in your thread (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=30235.msg352125#msg352125)
Here is the search function (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?action=search;advanced) so that you can do the research on your own next time
And here, highlighted for you, is the quote button so that you don't have to keep copy/pasting and colorizing other people's text. It's handy for people to click on that little "quote from" link on quotes so that they can easily tell if you're empty quoting or not.
(http://i.imgur.com/Mwcbp.jpg)
Its obvious that you're new to the internet. If you need more help feel free to keep badposting all over the forums because people will continue to correct you.
Edited for clarity.
I wrote this January 31, the night of the Seton Hall game, four days after DG was injured at nova ...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=30175.msg351493#msg351493
Just got back from the game and someone close to the program, in the position to know, said he'll be out 3 to 4 weeks. You know his name and he perfers I not use it.
Whenever DG comes back, our expectations should include the likelihood he will take a few games to return to his former shape and productivity.
I hope I am wrong. I just remember the painful memory of James trying to return after he broke his foot.
The people that are insinuating that MU is better off right now without Davante are high. We need him back bad, hopefully he can go by Friday night in WV. They'll definitely need to ease him back into the rotation, and he won't be getting the minutes he was getting pre-injury, but he gives us a dimension that we'll badly need in the tourney.
Uh, must be my iPhone but I don't see where it states that De'De will be out "4-6 weeks"
So because I don't follow the rest of the "heard" I'm computer illiterate?
:'(
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 19, 2012, 11:55:47 AM
The people that are insinuating that MU is better off right now without Davante are high. We need him back bad, hopefully he can go by Friday night in WV. They'll definitely need to ease him back into the rotation, and he won't be getting the minutes he was getting pre-injury, but he gives us a dimension that we'll badly need in the tourney.
Yeah, we are fine without Davante until either Crowder or Wilson get in foul trouble in any game OR we don't play back-to-back games within three days of one another (cant be playing those two 37+ minutes on such little rest).
The first condition is just a matter of time. The second one is guaranteed at WVU (only two days rest), the BET, and the NCAA tourney.
We need Davante back. Sooner rather than later.
Quote from: JDuquaine on February 19, 2012, 06:27:44 PM
Uh, must be my iPhone but I don't see where it states that De'De will be out "4-6 weeks"
So because I don't follow the rest of the "heard" I'm computer illiterate?
:'(
Not necessarily. But maybe because it's "herd", you're just plain illiterate and need not be concerned with your computer skills. Just sayin'.
You're right...I apologize.
I should take grammar and spelling more seriously on a forum I suppose, especially when the reader may not know what type of (herd or heard) I was referring to.
So lighthouse, please help educate me on where (before my previous post) it shows conclusively, ox was going to be out 4-6 weeks?
Thanks in advance
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 19, 2012, 10:07:15 PM
Not necessarily. But maybe because it's "herd", you're just plain illiterate and need not be concerned with your computer skills. Just sayin'.
Careful, Lighthouse, I think you may have missed the pun suggested by the quote marks ("heard"), which would suggest a rather sophisticated use of language - certainly well above the level of an illiterate.