Lunardi's latest doesn't list teams, other than #1 seeds, but has a conference breakdown and last four in/out.
So, he has eight teams in from the Big 10 and Northwestern as one of the last four out. No Big 10 teams as in the last four in. Assuming he's not picking teams with losing records (Nebraska, Penn St.), that means three of the following four are solidly in, according to him:
Illinois 16-9, 5-7, RPI 46
Minnesota 17-8, 5-7, RPI 49
Purdue 15-9, 5-6, RPI 63
Iowa 13-12, 5-7, RPI 124
Anyhow, not sure there's any point to this post, other than wondering what the heck Lunardi is thinking.
Oh, and NU (RPI 37, conference record 5-6) is getting hosed by him.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/48310/joe-lunardis-quick-bracketology-update
How many do you think the B1G will send? They are the number one conference in college basketball. Last year's number one sent 11. Eight is not going to be a stretch for the B1G.
Illinois has 4 games left that should be wins. That puts them at 20 wins.
Minnesota has 3 games left that should be wins and an opportunity of a statement game with Ohio State at home.
Purdue, we're squarely on the bubble. Have three wins for sure. Potential statement games with Michigan State at home and anything goes with rival games with Indiana last game of the year.
Iowa is not going to make it.
Northwestern, if they can come back against the Boilers in the final 3 minutes have a shot as well.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 12, 2012, 04:49:41 PM
Lunardi's latest doesn't list teams, other than #1 seeds, but has a conference breakdown and last four in/out.
So, he has eight teams in from the Big 10 and Northwestern as one of the last four out. No Big 10 teams as in the last four in. Assuming he's not picking teams with losing records (Nebraska, Penn St.), that means three of the following four are solidly in, according to him:
Illinois 16-9, 5-7, RPI 46
Minnesota 17-8, 5-7, RPI 49
Purdue 15-9, 5-6, RPI 63
Iowa 13-12, 5-7, RPI 124
Anyhow, not sure there's any point to this post, other than wondering what the heck Lunardi is thinking.
Oh, and NU (RPI 37, conference record 5-6) is getting hosed by him.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/48310/joe-lunardis-quick-bracketology-update
Illinois, Minnesota and Northwestern should be in. Purdue on the bubble. Iowa is out.
Iowa, NW, Purdue, Minn, and Illinois don't deserve to be in, some of them very likely will, but their resumes aren't better than a host of other mid-majors that won't get in. Purdue beat NW today and that should bump NW off the bubble unless they go on a tear the rest of the season.
Illinois with wins over OSU and Gonzaga at least have a case. The others really haven't done anything to deserve a bid.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 12, 2012, 06:49:27 PM
How many do you think the B1G will send? They are the number one conference in college basketball. Last year's number one sent 11. Eight is not going to be a stretch for the B1G.
Illinois has 4 games left that should be wins. That puts them at 20 wins.
Minnesota has 3 games left that should be wins and an opportunity of a statement game with Ohio State at home.
Huh? MN will be favored in one game - their last of the season.
Big Ten should get six, maybe seven.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 12, 2012, 06:49:27 PM
How many do you think the B1G will send? They are the number one conference in college basketball. Last year's number one sent 11. Eight is not going to be a stretch for the B1G.
Illinois has 4 games left that should be wins. That puts them at 20 wins.
Minnesota has 3 games left that should be wins and an opportunity of a statement game with Ohio State at home.
Purdue, we're squarely on the bubble. Have three wins for sure. Potential statement games with Michigan State at home and anything goes with rival games with Indiana last game of the year.
Iowa is not going to make it.
Northwestern, if they can come back against the Boilers in the final 3 minutes have a shot as well.
Illinois won't make 20 wins. No business being in the dance.
Quote from: marqptm on February 12, 2012, 10:56:25 PM
Illinois won't make 20 wins. No business being in the dance.
I think the Big Ten got 7 last year? 7 or 8 is not unreasonable, however no way Iowa gets in. And NU is going to have to win some in the conference tourney.
Think the B1? will end up with 7.
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 12, 2012, 10:52:29 PM
Huh? MN will be favored in one game - their last of the season.
Big Ten should get six, maybe seven.
I think Minnesota should beat Northwestern and Nebraska remaining. They already beat Indiana on the road, they get them in Minneapolis next. Those are the three games they have a very good chance of winning.
Quote from: JForgetful
Iowa, NW, Purdue, Minn, and Illinois don't deserve to be in, some of them very likely will, but their resumes aren't better than a host of other mid-majors that won't get in. Purdue beat NW today and that should bump NW off the bubble unless they go on a tear the rest of the season.
Illinois with wins over OSU and Gonzaga at least have a case. The others really haven't done anything to deserve a bid.
Do you think Notre Dame deserves to get in? ND's projected RPI is in the same neighborhood as Illinois, Northwestern, and Purdue.
ND 50, Illinois 51, Northwestern 54, and Purdue 58. Minnesota is further down but they have opportunity in their hands if they win a game they shouldn't and play well in the B1G tournament.
Quote from: Pakuni on February 12, 2012, 04:49:41 PM
Lunardi's latest doesn't list teams, other than #1 seeds, but has a conference breakdown and last four in/out.
So, he has eight teams in from the Big 10 and Northwestern as one of the last four out. No Big 10 teams as in the last four in. Assuming he's not picking teams with losing records (Nebraska, Penn St.), that means three of the following four are solidly in, according to him:
Illinois 16-9, 5-7, RPI 46
Minnesota 17-8, 5-7, RPI 49
Purdue 15-9, 5-6, RPI 63
Iowa 13-12, 5-7, RPI 124
Anyhow, not sure there's any point to this post, other than wondering what the heck Lunardi is thinking.
Oh, and NU (RPI 37, conference record 5-6) is getting hosed by him.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/48310/joe-lunardis-quick-bracketology-update
Glockner with 9 now... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_glockner/02/14/Bracket.Watch/index.html?sct=cb_t11_a0
Quote from: MUFC9295 on February 15, 2012, 10:25:55 AM
Glockner with 9 now... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_glockner/02/14/Bracket.Watch/index.html?sct=cb_t11_a0
I could get wood looking at the draw he has set up for MU
Quote from: MUBurrow on February 15, 2012, 01:42:32 PM
I could get wood looking at the draw he has set up for MU
Florida State has some nice scalps on their resume, including North Carolina. Get by them, however, and it's a great hole shot to the Final Four.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 15, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Florida State has some nice scalps on their resume, including North Carolina. Get by them, however, and it's a great hole shot to the Final Four.
True. If Baylor really comes on strong at the end of the season, they can be a force; they've been underperforming recently though. Final Four would probably require us taking it to Kentucky and that'd be a feat in itself.
Anybody watch IU vs Northwestern? Tough loss for an outmanned NU squad. That Shurna kid is really good but they seem to stand around waiting for him to do something.
I don't understand IUs use of Zeller. The kid is a stud. They have real guard problems. Their point guard should be at DePauw. When they hit threes, they are tough though.
Whole lotta schools missed on Sobolewski. Cat can flat play the point.
B1G Locks
Ohio State, Michigan State
B1G Should Be In
Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana
B1G In the Mix
Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota
B1G Not a shot in freaking hell
Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 15, 2012, 08:36:56 PM
B1G Locks
Ohio State, Michigan State
B1G Should Be In
Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana
B1G In the Mix
Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota
B1G Not a shot in freaking hell
Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska, Illinois
FIXED!!!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 15, 2012, 07:33:20 PM
I don't understand IUs use of Zeller. The kid is a stud. They have real guard problems. Their point guard should be at DePauw. When they hit threes, they are tough though.
They could showcase Zeller more, but he's still being used very effectively. Freshman of the Year most likely. I've also been saying all year they have very average guards, but I wouldn't say DePauw level. Hulls can't defend but can shoot. Jones is a walking turnover machine that tries to do too much. They have incredible guards coming into their program the next two years which is probably Crean's forte. The reality is that they are going to be very good. A number of people here don't want to admit it, some Purdue friends are finally accepting it. They have power, height, speed, and quickness coming in to go along with Zeller and Watford. They will be very good if their freshmen figure it out next year, but there might also be some growing pains. Defensively they are average this year and that is mostly because their guards aren't that good on the ball defenders.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 16, 2012, 02:22:41 PM
They could showcase Zeller more, but he's still being used very effectively. Freshman of the Year most likely. I've also been saying all year they have very average guards, but I wouldn't say DePauw level. Hulls can't defend but can shoot. Jones is a walking turnover machine that tries to do too much. They have incredible guards coming into their program the next two years which is probably Crean's forte. The reality is that they are going to be very good. A number of people here don't want to admit it, some Purdue friends are finally accepting it. They have power, height, speed, and quickness coming in to go along with Zeller and Watford. They will be very good if their freshmen figure it out next year, but there might also be some growing pains. Defensively they are average this year and that is mostly because their guards aren't that good on the ball defenders.
Interesting. How's Purdue looking? Haven't heard much about your "alma mater." Did you live at Cary Quad? I have some great friends that went to Purdue.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 16, 2012, 09:31:30 PM
Interesting. How's Purdue looking? Haven't heard much about your "alma mater." Did you live at Cary Quad? I have some great friends that went to Purdue.
We're a bubble team, Nightmare, though the events of the last 24 to 48 hours could kill the team with the dismissal and suspension. Painter has a low tolerance level for stupidity and these guys were warned. I don't talk about Purdue here much, but happy to have you join me on the Purdue boards if you wish. Next time Matt Painter is brought up a 100 times a week with an obsessive behavior it might strike me to respond. You should have been on the MU chat last weekend. I joined in the second half of the game and guess who was already on? Chicos. At first I thought it was someone being a dickbag and posing as him, but it really was him. Would have loved to see your face on that one since you think I'm him. Keep the conspiracy alive, it seems to drive you.
Cary quad was for undergraduates only if I recall. As a graduate student, we lived off campus and I don't recall ever spending one waking moment (or sleeping moment) in any of the residence halls. I did my share of running through the fountain at the engineering mall, however. Did your friends ever spend time at Harry's Chocolate Shop?
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 18, 2012, 11:17:30 AM
You should have been on the MU chat last weekend. I joined in the second half of the game and guess who was already on? Chicos. At first I thought it was someone being a dickbag and posing as him, but it really was him. Would have loved to see your face on that one since you think I'm him. Keep the conspiracy alive, it seems to drive you.
That wasn't Chicos. How do i know? It was me. Let me guess...you were the guy posting all that great stuff about Vander Blue.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 15, 2012, 08:36:56 PM
B1G Locks
Ohio State, Michigan State
B1G Should Be In
Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana
B1G In the Mix
Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota
B1G Not a shot in freaking hell
Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska
B?? might only get 6 and possibly only 5 (that's probably a longshot). Illinois and Minnesota chances look grim with 5-9 conf records and rpi's of 71 and 68. Northwestern sports a 6-8 conference record, and a solid rpi (42). Lunardi has them as the last team in right now. Wonder if they would get an extra push into the tourney by the committee considering they've never made it. Purdue is probably solidly in right now with a 7-6 conf record and an rpi of 49 but after some recent turmoil, they could find themselves out as well if they drop a game to either Penn St or Nebraska (in addition to expected losses against MSU and Mich) and the first round of the Big ?? Tourney. The top 5 are locks.
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=collegebasketballnation&id=49225 (http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=collegebasketballnation&id=49225)
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 19, 2012, 09:24:27 AM
That wasn't Chicos. How do i know? It was me. Let me guess...you were the guy posting all that great stuff about Vander Blue.
if true, this is hysterical.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on February 19, 2012, 09:24:27 AM
That wasn't Chicos. How do i know? It was me. Let me guess...you were the guy posting all that great stuff about Vander Blue.
Maybe because two of the moderators were there at the same time that can vouch for it. I asked Chico a few weeks ago about you and what your deal is. He had mostly nice things to say but doesn't get the current deal with you either.
"PRN is a good guy. Sent me some very cool MU patches with the Willie Wampum swinging his hatchet years ago that I still have on my board in my office. He disappeared from the message boards for awhile and now he's back but something seems different. Wish I knew. Sorry you are taking the brunt of it. I don't particularly care for his charges either, especially implying I have mental issues (or is he saying you have mental issues...????). Wish I could help, but for some people it's like talking to a concrete wall. It can be Christmas Day and they will insist it is Easter...you don't have a chance with those people...usually that's not PRN but it seems to be his deal since I've been able to come back to Scoop and lurk the last two months. The great irony is that I couldn't even get on the board for probably 5 or 6 months until Hilltopper showed me how to clear my settings. So all the nonsense he's accusing you of I couldn't even see until about December. It is what it is. I'm happy to talk to him via email if he wishes, but I suspect he will have none of that. Doesn't he live in Chicago? Why don't you two go to the DePaul game or meet at the Georgetown game?"
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 19, 2012, 11:36:55 AM
Maybe because two of the moderators were there at the same time that can vouch for it. I asked Chico a few weeks ago about you and what your deal is. He had mostly nice things to say but doesn't get the current deal with you either.
"PRN is a good guy. Sent me some very cool MU patches with the Willie Wampum swinging his hatchet years ago that I still have on my board in my office. He disappeared from the message boards for awhile and now he's back but something seems different. Wish I knew. Sorry you are taking the brunt of it. I don't particularly care for his charges either, especially implying I have mental issues (or is he saying you have mental issues...????). Wish I could help, but for some people it's like talking to a concrete wall. It can be Christmas Day and they will insist it is Easter...you don't have a chance with those people...usually that's not PRN but it seems to be his deal since I've been able to come back to Scoop and lurk the last two months. The great irony is that I couldn't even get on the board for probably 5 or 6 months until Hilltopper showed me how to clear my settings. So all the nonsense he's accusing you of I couldn't even see until about December. It is what it is. I'm happy to talk to him via email if he wishes, but I suspect he will have none of that. Doesn't he live in Chicago? Why don't you two go to the DePaul game or meet at the Georgetown game?"
This is getting quite weird.
Quote from: jmayer1 on February 19, 2012, 09:48:38 AM
Purdue is probably solidly in right now with a 7-6 conf record and an rpi of 49 but after some recent turmoil, they could find themselves out as well if they drop a game to either Penn St or Nebraska (in addition to expected losses against MSU and Mich) and the first round of the Big ?? Tourney. The top 5 are locks.
This is my worry. We're playing tough against Michigan State right now. Down only one. A win today would be gigantic. Hummel is absolutely carrying us in the first half.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on February 13, 2012, 03:42:12 PM
Do you think Notre Dame deserves to get in? ND's projected RPI is in the same neighborhood as Illinois, Northwestern, and Purdue.
Anyone who puts Notre Dame in a group with Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue and gives them equal chances of making the tournament is delusional and/or hasn't watched a college basketball game in the last month or two. I'll take ND against all 3, higher seed as tie breaker if both get in - what would you care to wager?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 19, 2012, 09:49:18 PM
Anyone who puts Notre Dame in a group with Illinois, Northwestern and Purdue and gives them equal chances of making the tournament is delusional and/or hasn't watched a college basketball game in the last month or two. I'll take ND against all 3, higher seed as tie breaker if both get in - what would you care to wager?
Do you think maybe the timing of the post is relevant? On February 13th, all of those teams were virtually tied in the RPI rankings. Would I wager 8 days later based on what has happened to Illinois? Remember a few weeks ago when you said you weren't that impressed by Michigan? Things change, teams get worse and teams get better.
Illinois today is 70 in the RPI. Eight days ago when I wrote it they were one spot different than Notre Dame. Today they are nearly 30 spots different. Timing of posts do matter. Performances do matter.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 15, 2012, 08:23:36 PM
Whole lotta schools missed on Sobolewski. Cat can flat play the point.
His play in High School was overshadowed by his teammate, and now Badger, Frank Kaminksy
Who?
Quote from: marquette09 on February 23, 2012, 02:34:39 PM
His play in High School was overshadowed by his teammate, and now Badger, Frank Kaminksy
Yeah that's true to an extent. But anyone who watched Benet play knew that it was Sobolewski that made them truly special and not Kaminsky. Really good team...beat Steve Taylor and Jabari Parker last year in a game played in downtown Chicago (for those that don't know, Benet is a small catholic school about an hour west of chicago). I think the fact it was Benet turned off even some of the local schools, recruiting-wise, as I'm not sure Benet has produced a D-1 recruit...maybe ever.
Well, Carmody booked a real good one for the next 3 years.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 23, 2012, 02:51:04 PM
Yeah that's true to an extent. But anyone who watched Benet play knew that it was Sobolewski that made them truly special and not Kaminsky. Really good team...beat Steve Taylor and Jabari Parker last year in a game played in downtown Chicago (for those that don't know, Benet is a small catholic school about an hour west of chicago). I think the fact it was Benet turned off even some of the local schools, recruiting-wise, as I'm not sure Benet has produced a D-1 recruit...maybe ever.
That Benet team was very solid last year. In addition to Sobolewski and Kaminsky, they had another starter who went to Georgetown on a football scholarship. It had been a while in hoops, but Benet actually has a pretty strong basketball history. Loyola's new coach, Porter Moser, went to Creighton from Benet. Granted that goes back a way. There have been some others along the way, but far more in football...recently Dan Lefevre who starred at Central Michigan and was drafted by the Bears.
Are you an alum? I graduated in 2000, so my knowledge is limited to about the mid-90's on. But I don't remember seeing too many basketball trophies on display...
Quote from: StillWarriors on February 23, 2012, 03:21:55 PM
That Benet team was very solid last year. In addition to Sobolewski and Kaminsky, they had another starter who went to Georgetown on a football scholarship. It had been a while in hoops, but Benet actually has a pretty strong basketball history. Loyola's new coach, Porter Moser, went to Creighton from Benet. Granted that goes back a way. There have been some others along the way, but far more in football...recently Dan Lefevre who starred at Central Michigan and was drafted by the Bears.
LeFevre was actually pretty good at basketball too, he hit a game winner to upset highly rated Bolingbrook in the 2005 State playoffs.
Um, yeah.
Like I was saying, eight Big 10 teams seems like a lot.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2012, 06:25:24 PM
Um, yeah.
Like I was saying, eight Big 10 teams seems like a lot.
Bringing up a thread from three weeks ago? Brewcity is going to be outraged. :P I can't blame Lunardi for the 8 he thought back in the day. Illinois faltered as did Northwestern. They got 6, five of them I think are seeded in the upper half of the bracket. Big East did very well with 9, though for awhile there I was wondering if USF was going to get in. The look on Heath's face was one of great relief.
Lunardi ended up with 67 out of 68 to recapture the title this year. Last year he wasn't nearly as good.
Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 12, 2012, 12:07:35 AM
Bringing up a thread from three weeks ago? Brewcity is going to be outraged. :P I can't blame Lunardi for the 8 he thought back in the day. Illinois faltered as did Northwestern. They got 6, five of them I think are seeded in the upper half of the bracket. Big East did very well with 9, though for awhile there I was wondering if USF was going to get in. The look on Heath's face was one of great relief.
Lunardi ended up with 67 out of 68 to recapture the title this year. Last year he wasn't nearly as good.
I wouldn't worry about, it Hoop. You were wrong about something you had no control over. It happens to the best of us.