Pitt up 5 @WVU with 2:30 left. Would be yet another useful result for MU. That Pitt win may turn out to be a quality one...
Agree. I've got a feeling Pitt and Uconn are going to do some damage down the stretch.
Glad we played Pitt when we did. With Woodall back they are a different team. Wins over Georgetown and UWV and they are now on a roll, winning their last three.
at 14 - 9 (3-7) can they still make the tourney?
Only if they win the Big East Tourney
Quote from: nyg on January 30, 2012, 08:15:39 PM
Glad we played Pitt when we did. With Woodall back they are a different team. Wins over Georgetown and UWV and they are now on a roll, winning their last three.
You are correct sir.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 30, 2012, 08:17:44 PMat 14 - 9 (3-7) can they still make the tourney?
It'd be a very tall order. They probably can't afford to lose more than 1 more Big East game, even if they go 9-9 they'll need to win a few in the tournament. It's not impossible, and they are done with Marquette, Syracuse, Georgetown, and Notre Dame, but that long losing streak included 3 sub-100 RPI losses. They've got a lot of work to do.
Jamie Dixon definitely showing his skills as a coach there. 8 losses in a row, comes back to win 3 big ones and a huge road rivalry game. kept his team positive, playing hard, and good things happen. Would hate to see them at MSG....
Quote from: Big Daddy Z on January 30, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
Only if they win the Big East Tourney
Given all the time Woodall missed, I think 9-9, 20-11 and acouple of wins in the Big East tournament gets them in.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 30, 2012, 08:17:44 PM
at 14 - 9 (3-7) can they still make the tourney?
Absolutely. While it will take something like 10-8 in conference (meaning that they only have one more mulligan), there is no way the committee doesn't include a 21 win BEast team that's above .500 in conference and can point to a devastating injury for a series of losses. It is a tall order, but possible.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 30, 2012, 08:24:34 PM
Given all the time Woodall missed, I think 9-9, 20-11 and acouple of wins in the Big East tournament gets them in.
agreed. the committee is big on "what have you done for me lately" especially when injuries are concerned. I think a hot Pitt team makes it in
And if you look at their schedule, only road games at Louisville and UConn look problematic.
How about the other side? At 15 - 8 (5 - 5) is WVU in doubt to make the tourney?
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on January 30, 2012, 08:28:12 PM
agreed. the committee is big on "what have you done for me lately" especially when injuries are concerned. I think a hot Pitt team makes it in
Connecticut (and MU) made it in last year with a 9-9 Big East record.
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on January 30, 2012, 08:28:12 PM
agreed. the committee is big on "what have you done for me lately" especially when injuries are concerned. I think a hot Pitt team makes it in
+1...they'll take the injury into consideration, and if pitt. stays hot they can get in. there is no doubt they are a ncaa team with woodall. actually, if they do get in, it's going to be a really crappy draw for someone because they'll be playing much better then their seed will indicate.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 30, 2012, 08:32:44 PM
How about the other side? At 15 - 8 (5 - 5) is WVU in doubt to make the tourney?
Sure. Far from a lock at this early stage. But I wouldn't call them a bubble team. Maybe an 8-9 seed at this juncture.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on January 30, 2012, 08:17:44 PM
at 14 - 9 (3-7) can they still make the tourney?
It depends on how the NCAA views the Woodall injury as a factor. If they finish strong, even with a weaker record, the NCAA could give them the benefit that had Woodall not been injured, they may have done better.
It's possible...still have the BET they could win
With Woodall, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pitt win the BE tourney.
Quote from: godzilla on January 30, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
With Woodall, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pitt win the BE tourney.
+1 ... right there with you. in fact I have a feeling they or Nova will be the ones to take out Cuse, making it anyone's game this year (ours???)
If they go from 0-7 to 8-10 they will get a bid, if they win the first round Big East tournament game. On the flip side, if MU went from 7-2 to 9-9 they would not get a bid, if they lost in the first round of the tournament.
Quote from: bilsu on January 30, 2012, 09:00:59 PM
If they go from 0-7 to 8-10 they will get a bid, if they win the first round Big East tournament game. On the flip side, if MU went from 7-2 to 9-9 they would not get a bid, if they lost in the first round of the tournament.
I fully expect them to get to 8-10, maybe better.
Some more attrition to look for this week, hopefully we can keep winning and have this help us solidify our spot near the top of the standings:
Wed: UConn at Georgetown
Sat: USF at Georgetown
Mon: UConn at Louisville
Quote from: chapman on January 30, 2012, 09:24:12 PM
Some more attrition to look for this week, hopefully we can keep winning and have this help us solidify our spot near the top of the standings:
Wed: UConn at Georgetown
Sat: USF at Georgetown
Mon: UConn at Louisville
Would be nice if Uconn could find a way to win both those games.
I would want uconn to beat georgetown but lose to louisville. We have the head to head win over louisville but still have to travel to uconn.
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 30, 2012, 09:44:26 PM
I would want uconn to beat georgetown but lose to louisville. We have the head to head win over louisville but still have to travel to uconn.
in terms of teams pushing us in the standings, I am really torn on what could happen
-I think that UConn and Louisville have the most talent of the bunch, and have the most potential to put together a really hot streak... however they have the toughest schedules going out, each yet having to face Cuse twice (**the fact that Cuse has those 4 games still on the docket is the reason MU has a shot at the BEast 'ship) -- these two squads are less mentally tough, and seem to fold up after a rough patch, so I say to root for these two teams to lose now, to kill their will... whereas-
-WVU, ND, GTown, Cinci, USF all have easier second half schedules than UConn and LVille (WVU's is pretty nasty though too), but I also think these teams are far less likely to get hot and run the table the way UConn and UL could. You can pretty much count on these teams to each lose at least 3 games, and even if two or three do go (6-3) or so, if we lose more than 3 also and allow one of these teams to pass us, we'll have played poorly enough to not deserve that spot at/near the top anyways
CliffNotes: Root for UConn and LVille to lose now to keep them off a roll... expect attrition losses from the other 5 teams in the hunt to keep them off our back