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Title: Todd Mayo
Post by: jmd1914 on January 24, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
Not sure if this has been happening in the past but Todd sits on the bench without standing up and high fiving and talking to anyone else on the team during the game. Seems to have a flat attitude and very quiet. After the game was the first one off the court by far and immediately took his jersey off and walked alone. With playing 20 minutes and winning by 20 points, I would think that he would be in a better mood or at least shake off his 1-5 shooting night and celebrate a good win with his team. I could be overthinking this but just wanted to get any other opinions.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: brewcity77 on January 24, 2012, 10:11:55 PM
Surely you must be talking about Vander Blue
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Blackhat on January 24, 2012, 10:12:42 PM
I've noticed it.  What can you do about it?   I'm not throwing him a party.  


Hopefully he likes it here and thrives, I take his attitude to mean he's all business on the floor unless or until he rides out of town.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: DCWarriors04 on January 24, 2012, 10:14:24 PM
all that tells me is he is all business...who cares, as long as he is happy at Marquette.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on January 24, 2012, 10:17:06 PM
Buzz has mentioned it during the early part of the season, Mayo's demeanor hardly ever changes.  He doesn't get too high or too low - all business.  He looks like a cold-blooded assassin out there when he's hot.  It also makes him look disinterested when he's not playing all that well but I'm 99.9999% sure that's just how he carries himself at all times, nothing to read into.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 24, 2012, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: Jamailman on January 24, 2012, 10:17:06 PM
Buzz has mentioned it during the early part of the season, Mayo's demeanor hardly ever changes.  He doesn't get too high or too low - all business.  He looks like a cold-blooded assassin out there when he's hot.  It also makes him look disinterested when he's not playing all that well but I'm 99.9999% sure that's just how he carries himself at all times, nothing to read into.

I think you need to get with the MUScoop program!
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on January 24, 2012, 10:29:42 PM
Quote from: KC2016 on January 24, 2012, 10:22:23 PM
I think you need to get with the MUScoop program!

Sorry, I meant to say he was probably dissing the whole team while at the same taking his privileged status as an athlete for granted and rubbing it in everyone's face on campus.  My bad!
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 24, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
I've noticed Mayo's .. disinterest .. as well.   It's concerning in that, he's a guy MU will be building the team around in his next 3 years .. can't have him unhappy, we need him here.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: MUFC9295 on January 24, 2012, 10:48:34 PM
In all seriousness, does anyone here have a good read on the kid?  Regarding Todd, I wonder if he's a "well my brother..." kind of guy that is 1) proud of his sibling, but 2) alienates himself.  As I touched on in other posts, we are fortunate to have him now and for, hopefully, 3 more brilliant years.  But does he have a bubble around himself?
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on January 24, 2012, 10:52:27 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 24, 2012, 10:32:33 PM
I've noticed Mayo's .. disinterest .. as well.   It's concerning in that, he's a guy MU will be building the team around in his next 3 years .. can't have him unhappy, we need him here.

He also looks that way when he's burying threes all night.  I really don't think it's anything to be concerned about.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: mu89 on January 24, 2012, 11:01:58 PM
I'd say he holds himself to a very high standard and he only wants to be great. I saw in an interview after the Wisconsin game where he didn't think he played well. I'm sure he was upset with his 1-5 today or whatever it was.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: PaintTouches on January 24, 2012, 11:08:22 PM
The few times I interviewed to him you get the sense that he is just not a people person at all. Very shy but very humble.

He definitely idolizes his brother though. I was asking him little filler questions for some graphics and he responded to the question, "Who will end up as the greatest ever MJ or Bron?" Todd answers, "OJ Mayo," and repeats it when I question him again.

I wouldn't worry about his demeanor though. As some have said in previous posts, he is all business all the time.     
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: GGGG on January 25, 2012, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: mu89 on January 24, 2012, 11:01:58 PM
I'd say he holds himself to a very high standard and he only wants to be great. I saw in an interview after the Wisconsin game where he didn't think he played well. I'm sure he was upset with his 1-5 today or whatever it was.


That is how I would view it.  But let's not start another thread where we worry and fret over someone's sideline demeanor.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: QuetteHoops on January 25, 2012, 10:02:25 AM
I've actually noticed him being the opposite of what guys are saying in most games. I've seen him be the only one standing on the bench cheering and he is always at the front of the bench and sometimes in between the coaches. I think it was the Pitt game where he and buzz were the only ones standing on the bench for a whole defensive possession cheering the guys on...It seems to me like he is a fierce competitor with an all business approach, he had the same face after dunking the ball last night that he did when he was blocked and turned it over...
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 25, 2012, 10:20:52 AM
Quote from: QuetteHoops on January 25, 2012, 10:02:25 AM
I've actually noticed him being the opposite of what guys are saying in most games. I've seen him be the only one standing on the bench cheering and he is always at the front of the bench and sometimes in between the coaches. I think it was the Pitt game where he and buzz were the only ones standing on the bench for a whole defensive possession cheering the guys on...It seems to me like he is a fierce competitor with an all business approach, he had the same face after dunking the ball last night that he did when he was blocked and turned it over...

I noticed him do that on the first two possessions of the second half against Louisville. It was only he and Buzz standing and encouraging a strong stop from the five on the court.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: LAZER on January 25, 2012, 10:55:10 AM
I remember he got a real bad foul called against him in the Pitt game and someone else, maybe Crowder or Cadougan started complaining to the ref and Mayo looked unfazed by the call and told them to basically shut up which I thought was great.  I think he has a goal, which is probably to play in the NBA, and he's all business about it, you don't get to his level by being disinterested. That goes for Gardner as well.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: MerrittsMustache on January 25, 2012, 11:16:14 AM
Though I wasn't paying particularly close attention to his bench demeanor, watching Mayo in the actual game, I couldn't help think that he looked a little lethargic and out of it. A buddy of mine actually said the same thing. Perhaps he simply wasn't feeling well.

Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: downtown85 on January 25, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: QuetteHoops on January 25, 2012, 10:02:25 AM
I've actually noticed him being the opposite of what guys are saying in most games. I've seen him be the only one standing on the bench cheering and he is always at the front of the bench and sometimes in between the coaches. I think it was the Pitt game where he and buzz were the only ones standing on the bench for a whole defensive possession cheering the guys on...It seems to me like he is a fierce competitor with an all business clinical approach, he had the same face after dunking the ball last night that he did when he was blocked and turned it over...

Fixed
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: strotty on January 25, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
This thread can't be real life....seriously?
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Montana Warrior on January 25, 2012, 11:46:35 AM
Let's get real.  Todd is a 19 year-old kid on an 18th ranked team in one of the best BB conferences in the country where he is getting 20+ minutes a game as a freshman.  There are ups and downs in any players games but this MU team and Buzz's style of BB fits this kid's talents perfectly and I think he knows it.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: swoopem on January 25, 2012, 11:49:36 AM
When was the last time you guys ever did anything competitve? Sometimes you get pissed at yourself and dont want to hear about it from anyone else because you know the mistakes that you made and you know your better than that. The dude is fine, stop trying to find stuff to complain about.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: lab_warrior on January 25, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 25, 2012, 08:35:17 AM

That is how I would view it.  But let's not start another thread where we worry and fret over someone's sideline demeanor.

Agreed!

Was thinking when reading the first post...UGH. Not this again.  Why don't we just have a thread dedicated to the amateur sports psychologists and tea leaf readers. 

Sure, players might play well, or not so well, but it's most important that we examine their DEMEANOR.

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Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: ringout on January 25, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
How does he return slaps of five?  This is important in evaluating a players overall contribution to the team.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 25, 2012, 04:04:22 PM
Jake Thomas doesn't hand towels out nearly as well as Frozen-A did.

(Good to see Frozen-A in Dick Strong's seats last night)
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Skatastrophy on January 25, 2012, 04:18:01 PM
He's a freshmen.  All freshmen are trying to figure out who they're supposed to be personally and academically, much less how they're supposed to fit into the team.  He'll figure it out :)
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: MU82 on January 25, 2012, 07:01:06 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 24, 2012, 10:11:55 PM
Surely you must be talking about Vander Blue

He wasn't talking about Vander Blue ... and don't call him Shirley.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
I saw this thread a couple of days ago and the explanation that Mayo is just "all business" made sense to me as a casual fan. Unfortunately, I just heard from a higher-up source this morning that there actually is something to this. He isn't completely happy right now and Buzz and staff are working to handle. Hopefully it's just a blip and Buzz helps him through it.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: GGGG on January 26, 2012, 03:22:26 PM
Ugh...thanks Freeport.  Hopefully this will get resolved.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 03:30:03 PM
It ruined my morning. He seems to be the next in line to inherit "the man" status after DJO and Crowder graduate IMO.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on January 26, 2012, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
I saw this thread a couple of days ago and the explanation that Mayo is just "all business" made sense to me as a casual fan. Unfortunately, I just heard from a higher-up source this morning that there actually is something to this. He isn't completely happy right now and Buzz and staff are working to handle. Hopefully it's just a blip and Buzz helps him through it.

Would hate to see anything come from this, but this is example no. 753 why you always keep recruiting even if it leads to oversigning.  You just never know with 18-22 year old kids...
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 26, 2012, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on January 26, 2012, 03:34:12 PM
Would hate to see anything come from this, but this is example no. 753 why you always keep recruiting even if it leads to oversigning.  You just never know with 18-22 year old kids...

It's also example no. 829 on why its so stupid when people wet their pants over what a roster will look like in the next year or the next two years.

Far too fluid a program to count unhatched eggs.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 26, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
I saw this thread a couple of days ago and the explanation that Mayo is just "all business" made sense to me as a casual fan. Unfortunately, I just heard from a higher-up source this morning that there actually is something to this. He isn't completely happy right now and Buzz and staff are working to handle. Hopefully it's just a blip and Buzz helps him through it.

I wonder if you ever have more than 1 or 2 guys on any team who are "completely happy". That said, Todd looked (and played) like he was a little distracted against USF Tuesday. Is he homesick? Does he want to start? I love his game and think he has a huge future with this team. He will be the man here if he's patient.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: muzzwilliams on January 26, 2012, 03:48:46 PM
You guys need to relax and stop over analyzing everything.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Bocephys on January 26, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 26, 2012, 03:46:06 PM
I wonder if you ever have more than 1 or 2 guys on any team who are "completely happy". That said, Todd looked (and played) like he was a little distracted against USF Tuesday. Is he homesick? Does he want to start? I love his game and think he has a huge future with this team. He will be the man here if he's patient.

Not even that patient, he only has to wait eight months.  Unless his brother is making fun of him for not being a one and done, I doubt playing time is the issue.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: RJax55 on January 26, 2012, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 26, 2012, 03:40:08 PM
It's also example no. 829 on why its so stupid when people wet their pants over what a roster will look like in the next year or the next two years.

Far too fluid a program to count unhatched eggs.

Very true. However, my concern is for this season, as Mayo is a big part of what's going on.

Freeport, did you hear the reason(s) for his unhappiness?
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: THEultimateWARRIOR on January 26, 2012, 03:51:11 PM
Why wouldn't he be happy? Hes getting more playing time then any freshman I can remember since Buzz has been here.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Les Nessman on January 26, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
I saw this thread a couple of days ago and the explanation that Mayo is just "all business" made sense to me as a casual fan. Unfortunately, I just heard from a higher-up source this morning that there actually is something to this. He isn't completely happy right now and Buzz and staff are working to handle. Hopefully it's just a blip and Buzz helps him through it.

Did your higher-up source give you any details?  
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: GGGG on January 26, 2012, 03:55:44 PM
Quote from: THEultimateWARRIOR on January 26, 2012, 03:51:11 PM
Why wouldn't he be happy? Hes getting more playing time then any freshman I can remember since Buzz has been here.

There are all sorts of reasons why a 19 year old guy can be unhappy in college.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: injuryBug on January 26, 2012, 04:00:20 PM
I heard he was mad cause before each game they announce the student section as the 6th man and not him
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: leever on January 26, 2012, 04:03:04 PM
A completely unreliable source tells me (off the record) that Todd will transfer to Eastern Michigan after this year because:
(1) He is terribly unhappy that Buzz is more concerned with "paint touches" than "deflections" and
(2) He prefers to play somewhere where the coach makes the players practice free throws at each and every practice.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Real Chilly Podcast on January 26, 2012, 04:09:22 PM
I heard he's depressed because every time he walks to the Al, he sees Hegarty's is now a grass field
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 26, 2012, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 26, 2012, 03:55:44 PM
There are all sorts of reasons why a 19 year old guy can be unhappy in college.

Not that it makes a ton of difference, but doesn't Todd turn 21 in a month or two?
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 04:20:26 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 26, 2012, 03:55:44 PM
There are all sorts of reasons why a 19 year old guy can be unhappy in college.
True, among them, happy when "he's getting his," conversely, not as happy when he's not, regardless of team outcome. His personal stats are important and it makes sense considering his background. He's an NBA player's brother and knows the lifestyle well, so he has a little more ego than your typical freshman.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: 🏀 on January 26, 2012, 04:21:10 PM
Quote from: kinsella4three??? on January 26, 2012, 04:09:22 PM
I heard he's depressed because every time he walks to the Al, he sees Hegarty's is now a grass field

Wow, great answer. New candidate for post of the year.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Real Chilly Podcast on January 26, 2012, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: marqptm on January 26, 2012, 04:21:10 PM
Wow, great answer. New candidate for post of the year.

i'm flattered by the nomination. ever been done within first 15 posts? I feel like Todd Mayo circa Northern Colorado game
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: DiaperDandy on January 26, 2012, 04:58:44 PM
I can't imagine he would transfer. He is 21 now.  After sitting out 1 year, he would be 23 years old after completing his sophomore year.  This could hurt his chances of getting drafted. Here is to hoping Buzz and company get this issue worked out and Todd remains a viable member of this team. 
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: The Lens on January 26, 2012, 05:00:00 PM
Excuse me I need to go over to TOS and make a Scoop posters are "flying off the handle" post.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Blackhat on January 26, 2012, 06:02:37 PM
Considering Marquette's transfer history the past 10 years I don't think it is out of the question to worry about Mayo taking a keek at other schools.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: SaveOD238 on January 26, 2012, 06:27:08 PM
If Mayo or anyone close to Mayo is reading this just remember that we all want Todd to be a Warrior for life!



PS: in the event that he does leave, can he transfer to WVU when they leave the BEast at the end of the season?
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: strotty on January 26, 2012, 06:31:21 PM
Gotta love forums..."higher ups" "reliable sources"....
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 26, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
Quote from: strotty on January 26, 2012, 06:31:21 PM
Gotta love forums..."higher ups" "reliable sources"....

No sh*t. This is ridiculous. My favorite was the post regarding his brother being in the nba which in turn makes mayo need to get his.  This thread makes the full-on double rainbow guy seem rational.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: strotty on January 26, 2012, 06:42:51 PM
I was like walking to class today and Juan Anderson was walking alone. From this I can say firmly he is not connecting well with his fellow teammates.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: DCWarriors04 on January 26, 2012, 06:57:34 PM
Let's all back off the ledge; Mayo is a freshman and I'm sure all freshman ponder where they are at sometime during their first year. He is a key cog in this team that is well motivated. I have faith in Buzz and the rest of the coaches to handle this.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 07:55:29 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 26, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
No sh*t. This is ridiculous. My favorite was the post regarding his brother being in the nba which in turn makes mayo need to get his.  This thread makes the full-on double rainbow guy seem rational.
Got it. The guy who started this thread was wondering if something was wrong with Mayo. I thought it was an interesting observation a few days ago.  Then I had a conversation this morning with someone with ties directly to the staff/ath dept who brought this issue up unprovoked. It bummed me out. I love Mayo's game. I thought I would share the observations and what he is hearing. This isn't some brother's sister-in-law's plumber said, this is a guy who speaks with Buzz and the AD frequently. There's obviously more to the story, but since I'm as rational as the double rainbow guy, I'll just keep it to myself.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: GGGG on January 26, 2012, 08:15:38 PM
Don't worry about it Freeport. Those who bitch about sources are just pissed because they don't have any.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 26, 2012, 08:29:29 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 26, 2012, 08:15:38 PM
Don't worry about it Freeport. Those who bitch about sources are just pissed because they don't have any.

Sultan, I could care less. College basketball isn't that important to me.

If you read the post I was commenting on his observation about his brother being in the nba so it makes him a stat guy. Comical. If he's unhappy I can guarantee its not because his brother is in the NBA. I'm a fan of mayo, but if he's not happy then see ya.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on January 26, 2012, 08:33:07 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 07:55:29 PM
Got it. The guy who started this thread was wondering if something was wrong with Mayo. I thought it was an interesting observation a few days ago.  Then I had a conversation this morning with someone with ties directly to the staff/ath dept who brought this issue up unprovoked. It bummed me out. I love Mayo's game. I thought I would share the observations and what he is hearing. This isn't some brother's sister-in-law's plumber said, this is a guy who speaks with Buzz and the AD frequently. There's obviously more to the story, but since I'm as rational as the double rainbow guy, I'll just keep it to myself.

Wow, I'm honestly shocked if this is true.  The guy is getting starters' minutes in conference play and has scored in double digits 5 of the 8 games with a fair share of shots.  Not to mention we're winning of late.  If true, I really hope this is just a bump in the road, because to the naked eye it seems like he's getting MORE comfortable with the system, not less.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Blackhat on January 26, 2012, 08:37:22 PM
this program would be set back big time next year if mayo mia'd.  he's the future.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: DCWarriors04 on January 26, 2012, 08:38:34 PM
More is being made of this then needs to be made. Nobody knows what exactly is going on. Maybe the issue is he feels he should be doing more and isn't. Maybe he misses home. Maybe school is tougher than he expected. Who knows.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: real chili 83 on January 26, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
Finally, a thread that doesn't end up ripping Vander.

Is Mayo tonight's whipping boy? Does any one have.......facts?   ;D

Geez,  lighten up....Francis!
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: 🏀 on January 26, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 26, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
Finally, a thread that doesn't end up ripping Vander.

Is Mayo tonight's whipping boy? Does any one have.......facts?   ;D

Geez,  lighten up....Francis!

Don't speak too soon, Erick can still show up and say 'I'd be pissed if the garbage player like Vander started over me.'
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 08:53:16 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 26, 2012, 08:29:29 PM
his observation about his brother being in the nba so it makes him a stat guy. Comical.
Not what I meant. TMayo sees himself as an NBA guy -- that's his goal -- unlike most, he has seen it up close -- he wants it. When he has a bad stat line, bad shooting night, it really affects him -- even when the team wins. That's not good for the team in the long run. Staff sees it; they are working on it. That's pretty much it. Nothing was said about transferring.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: DCWarriors04 on January 26, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 26, 2012, 08:39:43 PM
Finally, a thread that doesn't end up ripping Vander.

Is Mayo tonight's whipping boy? Does any one have.......facts?   ;D

Geez,  lighten up....Francis!
Maybe he reads the board and is upset he's only been SOTG twice.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 26, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 08:53:16 PM
Not what I meant. TMayo sees himself as an NBA guy -- that's his goal -- unlike most, he has seen it up close -- he wants it. When he has a bad stat line, bad shooting night, it really affects him -- even when the team wins. That's not good for the team in the long run. Staff sees it; they are working on it. That's pretty much it. Nothing was said about transferring.

Thanks for explaining, Warrior. This makes sense. I'm glad the staff and Todd are addressing it.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: avid1010 on January 26, 2012, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 26, 2012, 04:13:36 PM
Not that it makes a ton of difference, but doesn't Todd turn 21 in a month or two?

to me this does make a ton of difference...it would be hard for him to transfer and sit out a year.  he may unwisely or wisely leave early at some point...but i don't see him sitting out for a year. 
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: 96warrior on January 26, 2012, 09:59:01 PM
At the very end of the USF game, Mayo had the ball and a USF guy came up and basically just took it and ran off. Mayo waved it off, like whatever, and started walking off the court. The USF guy ultimately ended up on the free throw line. Granted, this was with about 10 seconds in the game and it'd been over for quite awhile, but I can't imagine Buzz won't rip him a new one over that once he sees the tape. On Tuesday night I just thought, woah, that's weird. Hate to say after reading this thread I do wonder if there is something going on here. Considering how well known it is that Buzz's team is only ever made of guys who work the hardest they ever have in their lives to earn anything they get, if there is a diva attitude of some sort, Mayo better get that in check fast. It'd be unfortunate to lose him but a diva attitude won't fly on this team, and frankly, I'd hate to see that change.

But, to other posters' points...he's a young freshman. Hoping it's just a bump in the road and it gets worked out. Mayo is already a stud and will be THE stud for us for the next 3.5 seasons so I hope he sticks it out.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on January 26, 2012, 10:02:19 PM
Quote from: 96warrior on January 26, 2012, 09:59:01 PM
But...he's a young freshman.

He's probably the oldest freshman we've ever had.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: mviale on January 26, 2012, 10:08:27 PM
He can drink very soon. Born March 26, 1991

Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: RawdogDX on January 27, 2012, 02:28:09 AM
I didn't  bother to read any of this so it would be great if someone would catch me up.  Is this another "MU player doesn't Hi-V enough" thread?
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: strotty on January 27, 2012, 04:13:50 AM
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on January 26, 2012, 08:53:16 PM
Not what I meant. TMayo sees himself as an NBA guy -- that's his goal -- unlike most, he has seen it up close -- he wants it. When he has a bad stat line, bad shooting night, it really affects him -- even when the team wins. That's not good for the team in the long run. Staff sees it; they are working on it. That's pretty much it. Nothing was said about transferring.

Would you mind letting me know who your source was through direct message? I obviously won't do anything with it, but am interested to see who is saying this since I have heard none of it. Not a big deal, just intrigued.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: GGGG on January 27, 2012, 07:52:28 AM
Quote from: 96warrior on January 26, 2012, 09:59:01 PM
At the very end of the USF game, Mayo had the ball and a USF guy came up and basically just took it and ran off. Mayo waved it off, like whatever, and started walking off the court. The USF guy ultimately ended up on the free throw line. Granted, this was with about 10 seconds in the game and it'd been over for quite awhile, but I can't imagine Buzz won't rip him a new one over that once he sees the tape.

I really doubt Buzz had a problem with it.  It was a dick move by the USF guy since MU was just running out the clock.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: madtownwarrior on January 27, 2012, 09:03:09 AM
That was a dick move by the USF guy - did not realize it was Mayo we took the ball from/

I love the use of "I could care less" by people

- does anyone ever use this in the right context?     This actually means you could have a care level less than your current care level.   

- The correct usage is "I could NOT care less"      This actually means your are the lowest point of potentially caring about something.


Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 27, 2012, 07:52:28 AM
I really doubt Buzz had a problem with it.  It was a dick move by the USF guy since MU was just running out the clock.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: 96warrior on January 27, 2012, 09:39:30 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 27, 2012, 07:52:28 AM
I really doubt Buzz had a problem with it.  It was a dick move by the USF guy since MU was just running out the clock.

How was it a dick move by USF? Mayo is just standing there, the guy just walks up and takes the ball, he didn't have to work too hard to get it. He's still playing and now he gets a steal on his stat line.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: GGGG on January 27, 2012, 09:42:26 AM
Quote from: 96warrior on January 27, 2012, 09:39:30 AM
How was it a dick move by USF? Mayo is just standing there, the guy just walks up and takes the ball, he didn't have to work too hard to get it. He's still playing and now he gets a steal on his stat line.


Because MU was running out the clock...not trying to score when up 20.  That's why I'm glad they fouled him and made him earn the points.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on January 27, 2012, 09:43:05 AM
absolutely a dick move.  we weren't trying to score anymore.  as you stated, Mayo was just standing there, attempting to run out the clock so as not to embarrass USF any further.  If mayo was making any move whatsoever towards the basket, it would be understandable.  And as you said, at that point, the guy is just trying to selfishly pad his stats.  One of the dickier moves I have seen actually.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: 96warrior on January 27, 2012, 09:48:55 AM
Well I guess I see the point about the USF guy. I was watching the game with others who thought it was odd, as I did. I have seen other games where the end was a foregone conclusion, and the teams slap fives with their opponents, signifying both are calling the game. Looked like there was still play to be had.

Oh wait a minute. I see the problem. There were no slaps of fives. Man, that really is an issue this year. (hopefully no teal required)
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: MUMac on January 27, 2012, 12:51:22 PM
Quote from: 96warrior on January 27, 2012, 09:48:55 AM
Well I guess I see the point about the USF guy. I was watching the game with others who thought it was odd, as I did. I have seen other games where the end was a foregone conclusion, and the teams slap fives with their opponents, signifying both are calling the game. Looked like there was still play to be had.

Oh wait a minute. I see the problem. There were no slaps of fives. Man, that really is an issue this year. (hopefully no teal required)
In that situation, most teams will stop playing D.  The shot clock was off and MU was standing there with the ball.  Almost the opposite of Fab Mello, where MU stopped playing D and they scored a cheapie.  When one team "calls off the dogs", typically the other does as well.  What would the reaction have been if MU drove the lane and took a shot?

I don't know what word I would use, but these were the scrubs for USF playing.  They are trying to show themselves, get playing time ...  The problem is, outside of Jamail, everyone played significant minutes. 
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: strotty on January 27, 2012, 01:13:31 PM
I realize this discussion has gone way off course from the OP (shocker), but case in point is the Providence game.  With about five seconds left, Juan Anderson took a half court pass from someone and had a wipe open opportunity for a dunk. He didn't take it. Because he isn't a South Florida clown who doesn't get it.

Congrats on the attempt at stat-padding. Good riddance that Rudd missed the second free throw, allowing Marquette to win the rebounding advantage by one and lowering his free throw percentage.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: RJax55 on January 27, 2012, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: MUMac on January 27, 2012, 12:51:22 PM
I don't know what word I would use, but these were the scrubs for USF playing.  They are trying to show themselves, get playing time ...  The problem is, outside of Jamail, everyone played significant minutes. 

The problem with that theory is the guy who did this, Victor Rudd, isn't a scrub. He averages almost 28 minutes a game.

Honestly, it was bizarre. I can't recall seeing another time where a team (up big) is dribbling out the clock and some guy steals the ball. I'm glad that MU got back and fouled him.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: MUMac on January 27, 2012, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: RJax55 on January 27, 2012, 01:25:45 PM
The problem with that theory is the guy who did this, Victor Rudd, isn't a scrub. He averages almost 28 minutes a game.

Honestly, it was bizarre. I can't recall seeing another time where a team (up big) is dribbling out the clock and some guy steals the ball. I'm glad that MU got back and fouled him.


I didn't realize that.  I was on my way up the aisle when he stole it.  I assumed it was one of the scrubs.  Makes defending the actions a little more difficult. 
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: 96warrior on January 27, 2012, 02:12:05 PM
Quote from: strotty on January 27, 2012, 01:13:31 PM
I realize this discussion has gone way off course from the OP (shocker), but case in point is the Providence game.  With about five seconds left, Juan Anderson took a half court pass from someone and had a wipe open opportunity for a dunk. He didn't take it. Because he isn't a South Florida clown who doesn't get it.

I remember this and remember thinking it was very classy on Anderson's part to not go for the dunk and to just dribble it out. Difference is, the winning team had the ball in that instance.

I watched the presser video that was posted in the other thread, and someone asked Buzz about it. He seemed to shrug it off so between that and everyone else's posts, I guess I just took this the wrong way. The last four minutes of that game were kind of disjointed.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: GGGG on January 27, 2012, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: 96warrior on January 27, 2012, 02:12:05 PM
I watched the presser video that was posted in the other thread, and someone asked Buzz about it. He seemed to shrug it off so between that and everyone else's posts, I guess I just took this the wrong way. The last four minutes of that game were kind of disjointed.


Well, what is he going to say?  "That was really a poor move by their player?" 
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: tower912 on January 27, 2012, 02:20:16 PM
We won the game by a lot.   The USF player's action says more about him than anything else.   Non-issue.
Title: Re: Todd Mayo
Post by: 96warrior on January 27, 2012, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 27, 2012, 02:18:40 PM

Well, what is he going to say?  "That was really a poor move by their player?"  

Buzz is an upfront guy, if he was going to be pissed at Mayo for anything, he'd have said something like "you'll never see Mayo just walk off the court again, 20 point lead with 9 seconds to go or not".  The fact that a reporter asked about it validates that I wasn't the only one who thought it was a weird turn of events. Having said that, non-issue? Yah it is.
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