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Title: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:08:17 PM
First rule tonight...when we go down by 47 points in the first three minutes....breathe!  There are 37 minutes left ;D
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Jay Bee on January 21, 2012, 06:09:49 PM
Don't forget about the chatroom..

http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php (http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php)
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:11:39 PM
Steve jobs says I can't.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 06:13:22 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:08:17 PM
First rule tonight...when we go down by 47 points in the first three minutes....breathe!  There are 37 minutes left ;D

Predictable bad start.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:14:52 PM
They are playing into our hands! ;)
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: chapman on January 21, 2012, 06:16:54 PM
Not as slow as usual, we're getting baskets.  Just no more giving up wide open 3's please.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:14:52 PM
They are playing into our hands! ;)

Clearly.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 21, 2012, 06:19:52 PM
Always wondered .. why do people hang out reading and posting message after message in here, instead of using the chat room?

http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 21, 2012, 06:19:52 PM
Always wondered .. why do people hang out reading and posting message after message in here, instead of using the chat room?

http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php


Topper....doesn't work on an I pad. 
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 21, 2012, 06:21:50 PM
OKOKOK - I'll go to the chatroom.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: GOMU86 on January 21, 2012, 06:29:55 PM
URL for stream (ESPN blackout)?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 21, 2012, 06:30:57 PM
Had to leave the chatroom - my ESPN3 feed is too far behind; I'm reading about plays before I see them.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 06:32:02 PM
This is the Odom of last season. Poised and powerful.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:32:30 PM
5 for 5 from beyond...
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:34:12 PM
Who started...Blue or Mayo?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 06:35:59 PM
Blue.

MU needs to maintain their pace. These quick bursts do them in.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 06:40:39 PM
Well, up 9 with 9 to go, now tied. Thought for a minute MU would put their foot on PU's neck, but not yet.

Better watch their fouls. 
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 21, 2012, 06:41:04 PM
ESPN3 feed sux!
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 06:42:04 PM
This squad doesn't do fast break dunks well.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: KC2016 on January 21, 2012, 06:41:04 PM
ESPN3 feed sux!


Be glad it's not sponsored by Heineken...
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: mu89 on January 21, 2012, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: KC2016 on January 21, 2012, 06:41:04 PM
ESPN3 feed sux!


Mine keeps jumping back and forth.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:46:30 PM
Has DJO missed from 3 yet?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: BossplayaOtto on January 21, 2012, 06:47:08 PM
Juan anderson with some active 1st half minutes
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: jtrash37 on January 21, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Liking the bench contributions so far!
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 06:49:51 PM
Is Vander hurt, or just in the doghouse again?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: ErickJD08 on January 21, 2012, 06:54:10 PM
Quote from: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 06:49:51 PM
Is Vander hurt, or just in the doghouse again?

He's not good.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
Quote from: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 06:49:51 PM
Is Vander hurt, or just in the doghouse again?

He sat for like 10 minutes.  MU had six point lead, came back in and now tied.

Junior has two fouls, thats is only reason he is playing.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
Did providence just get a turkey on us?!!!
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Jackson_Downer on January 21, 2012, 06:56:23 PM
That Cotton shot didn't look like a 3 on replay.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Jackson_Downer on January 21, 2012, 06:58:45 PM
TODD MAYO:  GET OUT OF MY KITCHEN
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: muhoops1 on January 21, 2012, 07:00:43 PM
How many jump shots have our guards blocked this year?  Answer...none.  How many shooters have they put on the line attempting to block a jumper?  Answer....one too many.  This dates back to Dominic James...It's stupid.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 07:01:28 PM
If it wasn't for the terrible fouls on jump shooters and getting owned on their defensive board, this was a solid half.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: chapman on January 21, 2012, 07:01:38 PM
Ach, would be up double digits if we weren't getting slaughtered on the defensive glass.. Hopefully a combination of the 3/4 pressure and getting some good minutes from Gardner to take up space or Anderson to pull some down can fix that in the second.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: ErickJD08 on January 21, 2012, 07:02:10 PM
I must say. BE network is so low budget.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: BossplayaOtto on January 21, 2012, 07:04:08 PM
Quote from: ErickJD08 on January 21, 2012, 07:02:10 PM
I must say. BE network is so low budget.

Agreed.  The feed blows & the color commentator sounds kinda like the mayor on the simpsons
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
Reason MU is behind:

Rebounding.  PU has 24, MU 15.
                 PU has 10 offensive, MU has 4
                 Batts has 11 for himself.

Free Throws. PU has 13, MU 5

                  Fouling Cotton on a three and Council on last second shot stunk. Stop fouling Cotton.

Adjust to above in some way and MU will pull this out.  

Gardner is a no show and Blue is a no show.  Rest of team playing well, especially DJO and Jae.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 07:04:28 PM
ND ahead ....under 2min
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:07:34 PM
BTW, PU is shooting 30% for the game and is in the lead.  Unreal......

Cannot see a team shooting 30% and then winning. 
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:07:34 PM
BTW, PU is shooting 30% for the game and is in the lead.  Unreal......

Cannot see a team shooting 30% and then winning. 

You nailed it earlier...rebounding.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: BossplayaOtto on January 21, 2012, 07:08:51 PM
Hoping for a better 2nd half from Ox which in turn would help with the rebounding disparity.  DJO, Jae, Mayo, Jamil look solid and 7 dimes from Junior.  Vander looks lost again.  Hit the glass, get some paint touches which will even out the foul shots and we will get this W.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 07:09:37 PM
Free throw difference is the reason the team shooting 30% in leading.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 21, 2012, 07:14:22 PM
Missed the 1st half see the box score but anyone fill me in? I see Ox didnt score at all but had 2 fouls so did he sit a lot? DJO and Jae filling it up but batts with 11 1st half boards? I know Prov is good at getting to the line but 17 freebies already?

Just wondering how the game looks
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 07:09:37 PM
Free throw difference is the reason the team shooting 30% in leading.

Oh, you found the time to watch the game?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: National Champs on January 21, 2012, 07:15:18 PM
Haha, classic Buzz.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:16:13 PM
Thought Buzz would punch his lights out.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:14:49 PM
Oh, you found the time to watch the game?

????
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 21, 2012, 07:14:22 PM
Missed the 1st half see the box score but anyone fill me in? I see Ox didnt score at all but had 2 fouls so did he sit a lot? DJO and Jae filling it up but batts with 11 1st half boards? I know Prov is good at getting to the line but 17 freebies already?

Just wondering how the game looks

Odom is very good.

MU getting bitched on their glass. Leading to swipes on second chances, thus, the high FT attempts.

They've also decided not to defend PC's best 3 shooter.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:18:03 PM
Did Ox miss a team meeting or somethin'?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 07:19:23 PM
With Cuse going down, MU cannot blow this opportunity.

Real chance to get into title chase.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
The more I watch Vander, the more I wish he had not changed his mind about attending Wisky. He is in no way a Big East-caliber player.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 21, 2012, 07:20:24 PM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 07:17:23 PM
Odom is very good.

MU getting bitched on their glass. Leading to swipes on second chances, thus, the high FT attempts.

They've also decided not to defend PC's best 3 shooter.

thanks. I saw that they are not shooting a high % but 10 more boards at half. So far this half were charging a lot as usual but getting whatever we want in transition.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 07:20:51 PM
Quote from: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
The more I watch Vander, the more I wish he had not changed his mind about attending Wisky. He is in no way a Big East-caliber player.

I wish you would leave scoop a-hole.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:21:23 PM
Yeah, fits in better with the Big Ten
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 21, 2012, 07:21:42 PM
Quote from: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
The more I watch Vander, the more I wish he had not changed his mind about attending Wisky. He is in no way a Big East-caliber player.

literally wow
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 07:22:35 PM
Quote from: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
The more I watch Vander, the more I wish he had not changed his mind about attending Wisky. He is in no way a Big East-caliber player.

He is not as billed.....yet.  Nice dunk

He does a lot of other stuff well.  Be patient.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: fanofTR on January 21, 2012, 07:24:32 PM
What was that reporters question that made Buzz make the comment at halftime that he did. He looked at that announcer like he was a complete moron
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: National Champs on January 21, 2012, 07:27:50 PM
damn djo has 4
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:28:21 PM
Cotton ever miss?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: MUFC9295 on January 21, 2012, 07:28:29 PM
Is it the poor SNY picture or has The Friars coach been drinking reactor water?  Looks like half his hair has fallen out in patches.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:29:01 PM
Quote from: National Champs on January 21, 2012, 07:27:50 PM
damn djo has 4

Why was he guarding Cotten the whole time he had 3 fouls?  That just is perplexing.......
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:30:23 PM
It's crotch rot of the head
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 07:30:49 PM
Mayo really needs to earn his money now. It's uh oh time.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: National Champs on January 21, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
Quote from: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:29:01 PM
Why was he guarding Cotten the whole time he had 3 fouls?  That just is perplexing.......

Yeah, your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:31:58 PM
Did Ox pee in Buzz' sweet tea?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: chapman on January 21, 2012, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 07:31:58 PM
Did Ox pee in Buzz' sweet tea?

So that's why Buzz seemed so mad and DG isn't in...
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: MattyWarrior on January 21, 2012, 07:33:44 PM
DJO has 3 fouls,Vander has 4. Where is OX?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 07:37:22 PM
Ox with rebound.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: MattyWarrior on January 21, 2012, 07:41:52 PM
DJO does have 4 fouls and at least 4TOs
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Jamil really brought his big boy shorts tonight. Encouraging.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 07:44:39 PM
Ox....timely bucket.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 21, 2012, 07:45:39 PM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Jamil really brought his big boy shorts tonight. Encouraging.

Was just about to say this. Is this the start to a agressive Jamil?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 21, 2012, 07:46:06 PM
Quote from: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
The more I watch Vander, the more I wish he had not changed his mind about attending Wisky. He is in no way a Big East-caliber player.
Moronic statement.  Just wow.  
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: mu89 on January 21, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
I feel like jamil is gonna have a huge breakout season next year.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 21, 2012, 07:45:39 PM
Was just about to say this. Is this the start to a agressive Jamil?

He is 7 for 11, 2 for 2 from 3.  Five rebounds and two blocks.  Keep it going....
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 07:50:24 PM
Wilson....wow!!!
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 🏀 on January 21, 2012, 07:50:34 PM
Quote from: ecompt on January 21, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
The more I watch Vander, the more I wish he had not changed his mind about attending Wisky. He is in no way a Big East-caliber player.

Odds on ecompt eating these words in two years? 95%.

Maybe I'll signature this post for memories down the road.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 21, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
Quote from: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
He is 7 for 11, 2 for 2 from 3.  Five rebounds and two blocks.  Keep it going....

Rebound on cookie monster's missed FT is biggest play of night.

Onions.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Avenue Commons on January 21, 2012, 07:52:17 PM
How much longer until someone Providence player's brother comes out of the stands and tries to call timeout?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 07:53:06 PM
Quote from: marqptm on January 21, 2012, 07:50:34 PM
Odds on ecompt eating these words in two years? 95%.

Maybe I'll signature this post for memories down the road.

Can you also note in your signature my bold prediction was for a second round draft pick?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
Jeez, Gardner misses three free throws, should be up 13 with 5 to go.  Seems PU doesn't miss theirs.

He is out of sorts tonight.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 07:54:15 PM
Why do leads worry me more than deficits?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 21, 2012, 07:57:09 PM
Quote from: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
He is 7 for 11, 2 for 2 from 3.  Five rebounds and two blocks.  Keep it going....

Ya hes looking great. And my point with him being agressive was the fact that tonight hes actually looking for his shot. May be confidence from making some but i love that hes looking to shoot.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 07:57:27 PM
Three minutes left.  Time for DJO to return and put this thing to rest.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
I love DJO but I actually think I'd leave him out until it gets close.  The team has been playing great since he left.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 08:00:59 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
I love DJO but I actually think I'd leave him out until it gets close.  The team has been playing great since he left.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 🏀 on January 21, 2012, 08:02:01 PM
Any doubt that Wilson is SOTG?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 08:02:43 PM
Wilson has my vote.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 08:03:10 PM
Cotton is tough.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2012, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: marqptm on January 21, 2012, 08:02:01 PM
Any doubt that Wilson is SOTG?

Nope, hopefully this is his coming out party.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
Though apparently Junior getting 6 or more assists is the key to Marquette winning.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 🏀 on January 21, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
Joe Paterno. Dead.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 21, 2012, 08:06:26 PM
Dan Bernstein can now post his dead column he wrote three weeks ago!
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: chapman on January 21, 2012, 08:06:34 PM
Gardner getting some good action late.  Good job by Buzz to keep reeling him back in until he could get going at the end.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
I know Blue played terrible on offense, but when he played he was on Council.  Council shot 2 for 13 tonight and that was an important factor in the game.  
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Jackson_Downer on January 21, 2012, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: marqptm on January 21, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
Joe Paterno. Dead.

Serious?  I only see sites saying he was taken off his respirator but nothing saying dead.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 🏀 on January 21, 2012, 08:11:42 PM
Quote from: Jackson_Downer on January 21, 2012, 08:09:53 PM
Serious?  I only see sites saying he was taken off his respirator but nothing saying dead.

CBS is reporting dead.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: nyg on January 21, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
I know Blue played terrible on offense, but when he played he was on Council.  Council shot 2 for 13 tonight and that was an important factor in the game.  

Crappy on offense, great d.  

Hope this analogy works.....great short stop....
Vaccums cleaner.  Any baseball team would take that.  See Don Kessinger's career.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: marqptm on January 21, 2012, 08:11:42 PM
CBS is reporting dead.

RIP.  Say hi to Woody and Bear.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 21, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
Quote from: chapman on January 21, 2012, 08:06:34 PM
Gardner getting some good action late.  Good job by Buzz to keep reeling him back in until he could get going at the end.

Providence had a great idea to disrupt his play by having their players wear his initials on their jerseys!
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 21, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
Providence had a great idea to disrupt his play by having their players wear his initials on their jerseys!

Was thinking the same thing  ;D
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: LAZER on January 21, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
According to rpiforecast MU's RPI up to 9

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2012, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: nyg on January 21, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
I know Blue played terrible on offense, but when he played he was on Council.  Council shot 2 for 13 tonight and that was an important factor in the game.  

Blue played 14 minutes to Council's 39...
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 21, 2012, 08:37:18 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 21, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
Crappy on offense, great d.  

Hope this analogy works.....great short stop....
Vaccums cleaner.  Any baseball team would take that.  See Don Kessinger's career.
I don't know...2/3 FGs, 1/2 FTs, 5 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 TO in 14 minutes

That's not great but I don't know that it's terrible.  He played within himself which is what we need from him.  
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 21, 2012, 08:37:32 PM
Jamail was the only player not to see the court.
Three straight games.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/51396/jamail-jones

Hope he's working his way out of the doghouse.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2012, 08:37:40 PM
Providence didn't have anyone else to put in........
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2012, 08:40:00 PM
Typically when a guy doesn't see the floor for an extended period of time there is a reason....we've seen this before.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: nyg on January 21, 2012, 08:40:44 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 21, 2012, 08:37:32 PM
Jamail was the only player not to see the court.
Three straight games.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/51396/jamail-jones

Hope he's working his way out of the doghouse.

Not with him shooting 33%, 17% on threes and 20% on free throws.  Anderson has made his way past him.  Jones is now at end of bench talking to Jake Thomas and will probably be there awhile.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 08:52:55 PM
Probably just till the end of the season.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2012, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 08:52:55 PM
Probably just till the end of the season.

Yup.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 🏀 on January 21, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2012, 08:52:55 PM
Probably just till the end of the season.

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Norm on January 21, 2012, 10:56:37 PM
Well, it looks like Jones has taken Williams' spot for the player that never sees playing time. Mello seemed to have a great attitude in the Marquette basketball hour radio show about a month ago, but if his playing time stays this limited I wonder if he'll follow Williams out the door when the season is over.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on January 21, 2012, 11:37:26 PM
Quote from: Norm on January 21, 2012, 10:56:37 PM
Well, it looks like Jones has taken Williams' spot for the player that never sees playing time. Mello seemed to have a great attitude in the Marquette basketball hour radio show about a month ago, but if his playing time stays this limited I wonder if he'll follow Williams out the door when the season is over.
I just got in the door and read through the game thread...knew the Warriors won but didn't see much of the game.  My thought about Mello is, is this how Buzz will free up a scolly?  Coach's decision-DNP for a few games? 

just a thought....not trying to stir up anything.  Makes me wonder, but great win for the Warriors.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 🏀 on January 21, 2012, 11:49:57 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 21, 2012, 11:37:26 PM
I just got in the door and read through the game thread...knew the Warriors won but didn't see much of the game.  My thought about Mello is, is this how Buzz will free up a scolly?  Coach's decision-DNP for a few games? 

just a thought....not trying to stir up anything.  Makes me wonder, but great win for the Warriors.

He's not playing because he isn't on the level as the rest of the team. He's lost on defense and has completely lost his shot.

Juan looked better tonight than Jamail's MU career highlight reel looks like.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: MU B2002 on January 21, 2012, 11:50:49 PM
whose  minutes should he have taken tonight?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: mviale on January 22, 2012, 12:27:33 AM
Quote from: mu89 on January 21, 2012, 07:46:23 PM
I feel like jamil is gonna have a huge breakout season next year.
like Wilson getting more minutes.  Gardner and Wilson have huge upside
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Norm on January 22, 2012, 12:32:14 AM
Quote from: MU B2002 on January 21, 2012, 11:50:49 PM
whose  minutes should he have taken tonight?
But that's the problem right there - he never gets any playing time on a consistent basis to see if he should be taking time from anyone. The most minutes he played all season was the opening game and that was also his best statistical game. I watched the Duke game today and watched Austin Rivers play pretty well (even though Duke lost at the buzzer). I remember watching Jones go off against Rivers on national TV in high school and being excited that Jones was actually coming to MU. Then, since he's been here, he rarely plays, and when he does get in, seems to have no confidence on his shot. Jones has collected 4 DNPs in the 7 Big East games this season, and has played a grand total of 15 minutes in the 3 games he got in, with a minute, here, a minute there, and playing no longer than 3 minutes straight in any game. How is any player supposed to develop with that limited playing time?

Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 🏀 on January 22, 2012, 01:12:10 AM
Quote from: Norm on January 22, 2012, 12:32:14 AM
But that's the problem right there - he never gets any playing time on a consistent basis to see if he should be taking time from anyone. The most minutes he played all season was the opening game and that was also his best statistical game. I watched the Duke game today and watched Austin Rivers play pretty well (even though Duke lost at the buzzer). I remember watching Jones go off against Rivers on national TV in high school and being excited that Jones was actually coming to MU. Then, since he's been here, he rarely plays, and when he does get in, seems to have no confidence on his shot. Jones has collected 4 DNPs in the 7 Big East games this season, and has played a grand total of 15 minutes in the 3 games he got in, with a minute, here, a minute there, and playing no longer than 3 minutes straight in any game. How is any player supposed to develop with that limited playing time?



Playing time isn't earned in the game. Practice is where it happens.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Norm on January 22, 2012, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: marqptm on January 22, 2012, 01:12:10 AM
Playing time isn't earned in the game. Practice is where it happens.
According to Buzz, Mello is one of the hardest workers on the team and has a great attitude. He just doesn't play.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: GGGG on January 22, 2012, 08:02:12 AM
Quote from: Norm on January 22, 2012, 01:17:04 AM
According to Buzz, Mello is one of the hardest workers on the team and has a great attitude. He just doesn't play.

He may work hard.  He may have a great attitude.  He just may not be able to play basketball at this level.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: DCWarriors04 on January 22, 2012, 08:34:03 AM
Quote from: Norm on January 22, 2012, 01:17:04 AM
According to Buzz, Mello is one of the hardest workers on the team and has a great attitude. He just doesn't play.

Just because Mello is one of the hardest workers on the team doesn't mean he's actually got the defense down. We don't know what he looks like in practice other than Buzz saying he's a hard worker. This team is built on defense, which in turn generates the offense. If Mello can't play defense, he shouldn't be on the court.

That said, Juan Anderson last night looked really good on both offense and defense. However I was really impressed with his rebounding skills. Every time a shot went up he got position on his guy, boxed him up, and had a legit shot for the board. While long athletic teams still worry me with this MU squad, having Anderson continue to develop and build confidence will be critical to beating those kinds of teams.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 22, 2012, 08:54:11 AM
I really enjoyed the lineup down the stretch that had Jamil, Jae, and Gardner on the court at the same time.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: JTBMU7 on January 22, 2012, 09:14:15 AM
Buzz also said E Will was his hardst working guy. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 22, 2012, 09:50:02 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2012, 08:02:12 AM
He may work hard.  He may have a great attitude.  He just may not be able to play basketball at this level.

Exactly. Let's not be naive and think so long as you work hard in practice you'll be given a chance to play.

The best talent will play regardless of practice work ethic. And that's just fine.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Norm on January 22, 2012, 10:20:46 AM
Maybe its just me, but I think Jones has been ok on the defensive side this season when he does get some playing time. He's stepped up his rebounding and has had some nice assists too. He's just lost touch on his shot, and its probably all mental. I'd also buy the argument about defense earning you playing time if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of the guys who play a ton make numerous mistakes on D and still continue to play.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: GGGG on January 22, 2012, 10:52:41 AM
Quote from: Norm on January 22, 2012, 10:20:46 AM
Maybe its just me, but I think Jones has been ok on the defensive side this season when he does get some playing time. He's stepped up his rebounding and has had some nice assists too. He's just lost touch on his shot, and its probably all mental. I'd also buy the argument about defense earning you playing time if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of the guys who play a ton make numerous mistakes on D and still continue to play.


The only players who make mistakes on defense and still play are those who can score.  I guess I don't know what you are trying to imply.  If Buzz thought he could contribute, he'd play right?  Why would he keep him on the bench?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: MUMac on January 22, 2012, 11:11:34 AM
Quote from: Norm on January 22, 2012, 10:20:46 AM
Maybe its just me, but I think Jones has been ok on the defensive side this season when he does get some playing time. He's stepped up his rebounding and has had some nice assists too. He's just lost touch on his shot, and its probably all mental. I'd also buy the argument about defense earning you playing time if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of the guys who play a ton make numerous mistakes on D and still continue to play.

I think it may be just you.  I have watched Mellow when he is on the court.  I like Mellow and hope he improves and contributes down the road, but, right now he is a HUGE liability on D.  Can't stay with his man, which has caused big time breakdowns when he is in there.  He just does not have the defensive feel or skill set right now.  In addition, he is not hitting his shot - not even close.  Hard to see where he would get playing time right now.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 22, 2012, 11:12:28 AM
Quote from: Norm on January 22, 2012, 10:20:46 AM
Maybe its just me, but I think Jones has been ok on the defensive side this season when he does get some playing time. He's stepped up his rebounding and has had some nice assists too. He's just lost touch on his shot, and its probably all mental. I'd also buy the argument about defense earning you playing time if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of the guys who play a ton make numerous mistakes on D and still continue to play.
I would agree that Jones has been much improved on defense when he makes it onto the court.  He had a couple of games earlier this year when I thought maybe he had turned a corner and was heading towards being a productive player for us.  I still hold out hope that he can get it together whether it be this year or further down the road.  I am not part of the "Grass is always greener" crowd that seems eager to jettison him in favor of some completely unproven freshman.  
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 22, 2012, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: DCWarriors04 on January 22, 2012, 08:34:03 AM
That said, Juan Anderson last night looked really good on both offense and defense. However I was really impressed with his rebounding skills. Every time a shot went up he got position on his guy, boxed him up, and had a legit shot for the board. While long athletic teams still worry me with this MU squad, having Anderson continue to develop and build confidence will be critical to beating those kinds of teams.

I agree rebounding has been our achilles heel. I remember Al had some undersized teams in the late sixties when I attended MU; but they could jump and out rebound much taller/bigger teams. Can you teach rebounding?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 22, 2012, 11:23:56 AM
Quote from: MUMac on January 22, 2012, 11:11:34 AM
I think it may be just you.  I have watched Mellow when he is on the court.  I like Mellow and hope he improves and contributes down the road, but, right now he is a HUGE liability on D.  Can't stay with his man, which has caused big time breakdowns when he is in there.  He just does not have the defensive feel or skill set right now.  In addition, he is not hitting his shot - not even close.  Hard to see where he would get playing time right now.
We must we watching different things because his defense is much better than it used to be.  In the last few games in which he played, I don't remember a single defensive breakdown involving JJ.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: MUMac on January 22, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 22, 2012, 11:23:56 AM
We must we watching different things because his defense is much better than it used to be.  In the last few games in which he played, I don't remember a single defensive breakdown involving JJ.

I guess I don't see what you do.  I am not watching on TV, that may be the difference.  As I stated, when he gets in, I have focused on him.  He uses his hands, not his feet - picked up some cheap fouls that way.  When his man does not have the ball and is on the move, he get's lost.  Players blow by him far too easily with the ball.

You are correct, there wasn't a single breakdown involving JJ, more like multiple.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 🏀 on January 22, 2012, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2012, 08:02:12 AM
He may work hard.  He may have a great attitude.  He just may not be able to play basketball at this level.

My point exactly.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: GGGG on January 22, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 22, 2012, 11:12:28 AM
I would agree that Jones has been much improved on defense when he makes it onto the court.  He had a couple of games earlier this year when I thought maybe he had turned a corner and was heading towards being a productive player for us.  I still hold out hope that he can get it together whether it be this year or further down the road.  I am not part of the "Grass is always greener" crowd that seems eager to jettison him in favor of some completely unproven freshman. 


I don't think people are are advocating for a transfer - just wouldn't be surprised if he does. 
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on January 22, 2012, 12:27:27 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 22, 2012, 12:08:24 PM

I don't think people are are advocating for a transfer - just wouldn't be surprised if he does. 
Exactly. And Buzz's rotation makes me wonder if he's thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 22, 2012, 12:48:32 PM
When Juan fills out, watch out league! Kid was active on the glass and in the stat categories!

The real deal ( sorry, Todd, lol)
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: CTWarrior on January 22, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: MUFC9295 on January 21, 2012, 07:28:29 PM
Is it the poor SNY picture or has The Friars coach been drinking reactor water?  Looks like half his hair has fallen out in patches.

Was at the game and it was Ed Cooley bobble head doll night.  The bobble head has the bare patches on his head, too.  Good coach.  The past few times I was there the fans were really unhappy with the team.  This time around you get the feeling they know better times are coming and Cooley is building something.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: AZWarrior on January 22, 2012, 08:43:48 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 22, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Was at the game and it was Ed Cooley bobble head doll night.  The bobble head has the bare patches on his head, too.  Good coach.  The past few times I was there the fans were really unhappy with the team.  This time around you get the feeling they know better times are coming and Cooley is building something.

You're kidding, right?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Bocephys on January 22, 2012, 08:48:08 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on January 22, 2012, 08:43:48 PM
You're kidding, right?

Why wouldn't it?  It's supposed to be representative of him, is it not?  Would you give the Jim Abbott bobble head two hands?
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: CTWarrior on January 22, 2012, 09:52:01 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on January 22, 2012, 08:43:48 PM
You're kidding, right?

Not kidding.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 22, 2012, 10:19:27 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on January 22, 2012, 03:47:24 PM
Was at the game and it was Ed Cooley bobble head doll night.  The bobble head has the bare patches on his head, too.  Good coach.  The past few times I was there the fans were really unhappy with the team.  This time around you get the feeling they know better times are coming and Cooley is building something.

Keno Davis was a bullet that we fortunately dodged when TC skedaddled. Cooley is a definite upgrade.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 23, 2012, 11:20:07 AM
Quote from: MUMac on January 22, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
I guess I don't see what you do.  I am not watching on TV, that may be the difference.  As I stated, when he gets in, I have focused on him.  He uses his hands, not his feet - picked up some cheap fouls that way.  When his man does not have the ball and is on the move, he get's lost.  Players blow by him far too easily with the ball.

You are correct, there wasn't a single breakdown involving JJ, more like multiple.

You attend every single MU game in person?

That's pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Providence game thread
Post by: Hoopaloop on January 23, 2012, 02:48:22 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 22, 2012, 10:19:27 PM
Keno Davis was a bullet that we fortunately dodged when TC skedaddled. Cooley is a definite upgrade.

+1
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