BC looks packed from what I can see on TV.
We've scored 3 points so far....double our product from Vandy game :)
Go warriors!!!!!! And happy New Year.
DJO is back. 7 points so far.
DJO looking good. Jamil too...looking for his shot and playing very well defensively.
Agreed.
Crowder looks to be in a funk still.
DJO is on fire!!
Nice bounce back game by Gardner. Much more focused on both ends.
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 01, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
BC looks packed from what I can see on TV.
We've scored 3 points so far....double our product from Vandy game :)
Go warriors!!!!!! And happy New Year.
What's your definition of packed?
Didn't see many empty seats. Looks like a good crowd, considering it's new years and the Packers are playing. Thats all.
Ran Blue at point for a couple possessions. Had a TO and a nice pass that should have been an assist. Really like the energy. Jamil and Gardner look like they have stepped it up a notch.
Along with his foul trouble, I wonder if Buzz is sending a message to Crowder?
I agree with Sultan, really like the way van is playing pg. breath of fresh air!
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 01, 2012, 12:46:42 PM
Along with his foul trouble, I wonder if Buzz is sending a message to Crowder?
I'm sure it is foul trouble...why the announcers can't seem to figure that out is beyond me. Why put him in and get him a 3rd?
If Vander could just play in control...
He seems to go into the lane without an idea of what he's going to do.
Token sexist comment.
This woman announcer is beyond bad for my hangover. Horrible.
Villanova really turning up the intensity and physicality...not being whistled...nor are their many questionable block/charge calls...
Quote from: JDuquaine on January 01, 2012, 12:48:12 PM
I agree with Sultan, really like the way van is playing pg. breath of fresh air!
I didn't say that. He's pretty shaky.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 12:54:43 PM
Villanova really turning up the intensity and physicality...not being whistled...nor are their many questionable block/charge calls...
It's Big East time. This is going to happen. Nova really extended their defense, created turnovers and bad shots. MU couldn't capitalize.
Loved seeing Gardner throw his weight around that half. He looks like he's playing with more fire than usual.
7:00 minute mark was MU 32 VU 21. Then Junior, Blue and Wilson started chucking and turning over.
MU had two baskets the final seven minutes to include the one at buzzer. The only other fg was a gift by Gardner, the rest free throws.
First 13 minutes was pretty good, the last 7 was brutal.
Sarcasm (teal)
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 12:56:13 PM
It's Big East time. This is going to happen. Nova really extended their defense, created turnovers and bad shots. MU couldn't capitalize.
MU had two very touch fouls called on Derrick Wilson and Crowder defending the drive. Nova been bodying up a lot on MU - no such calls. Can you cite one foul called on Nova as MU drove from perimeter to the paint....not in the act of shooting (like the 2 called on Wilson and Crowder)?
Obviously those at the game are seeing it similar as there have been a few "hey, you finally made a call for us" cheers...
Horrendous officiating? No. But, can it affect how you play/defend? Yes.
Quote from: nyg on January 01, 2012, 12:59:27 PM
7:00 minute mark was MU 32 VU 21. Then Junior, Blue and Wilson started chucking and turning over.
MU had two baskets the final seven minutes to include the one at buzzer. The only other fg was a gift by Gardner, the rest free throws.
First 13 minutes was pretty good, the last 7 was brutal.
If I remember correctly Junior was out for about 2-3 minutes and they closed it to 3, because we couldn't score. Junior came back in and we played it even after that.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 01:04:13 PM
MU had two very touch fouls called on Derrick Wilson and Crowder defending the drive. Nova been bodying up a lot on MU - no such calls. Can you cite one foul called on Nova as MU drove from perimeter to the paint....not in the act of shooting (like the 2 called on Wilson and Crowder)?
Obviously those at the game are seeing it similar as there have been a few "hey, you finally made a call for us" cheers...
Horrendous officiating? No. But, can it affect how you play/defend? Yes.
Yeah, I know. MU fans (as many others) always feel that refs are not calling the game right. <yawn>
Well, no matter what the excuses we will soon find out what this team is made of. Against a young NOVA team at home. With that 7 minute scoring drought and Crowder with no points, lets see.
Watch and see if Mayo gets more time than Vander. Even both announcers implied the same.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 01:10:22 PM
Yeah, I know. MU fans (as many others) always feel that refs are not calling the game right. <yawn>
I think the reffing has largely been fine. I will admit though that I tend to wonder why we don't ever seem to get the home cooking from the refs like you see at other teams home games.
Man, the camera crew is really focusing on the ugly ones in the student section. Is that what the MU ladies look like, or it just because it's winter?
It's winter so the cute ones are hibernating
They weren't hibernating last night ;)
Gardner is playing much improved. He is getting up and down much better.
I realize Vander isn't taking, let alone making jumpers... but he's playing rather well. Letting the drive come to him, some great passes, and solid rebounding.
Junior comes out again and they go on a 5-0 run.
Davante!!!!
Yeah, but Davante is struggling with conditioning and it is showing on the defensive end on the floor. Two fouls because he reached instead of moving his feet. Solid, solid effort though.
Really ticky-tac fouls being called on Gardner and Wilson.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 01:45:50 PM
Yeah, but Davante is struggling with conditioning and it is showing on the defensive end on the floor. Two fouls because he reached instead of moving his feet. Solid, solid effort though.
No he's not...he's played really good D and been very active on both ends. Davante's conditioning is far too scrutinized and criticized...he plays effective minutes, no matter how many..5, 10, 20, 25...
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 01:45:50 PM
Yeah, but Davante is struggling with conditioning and it is showing on the defensive end on the floor. Two fouls because he reached instead of moving his feet. Solid, solid effort though.
He continues to be a work in progress. I like the effort from him today. If he continues to improve, it will help take out some of the sting of CO being out.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 01:47:51 PM
No he's not...he's played really good D and been very active on both ends. Davante's conditioning is far too scrutinized and criticized...he plays effective minutes, no matter how many..5, 10, 20, 25...
Ners, that is false. He picked up two fouls back-to-back because he reached and didn't move his feet. It was poor defensive effort.
I'm not knocking his game because this is the best I have seen him, but he still is having trouble with conditioning.
EDIT: And the announcer just made the same observation.
Gotta love that put back by DG.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 01:53:54 PM
Ners, that is false. He picked up two fouls back-to-back because he reached and didn't move his feet. It was poor defensive effort.
I'm not knocking his game because this is the best I have seen him, but he still is having trouble with conditioning.
I agree. I am one of DG's biggest critics. I hate when people only see the positives in his game. He was absolutely horrendous against Vandy. He is playing better today, but he is an offensive player, his defense leaves a lot to be desired.
DG has been totally dominant today. 6 offensive rebounds and 10 points on putbacks....
If Vander could clean up the 2-3 really bad decisions each game he could be a heck of a pg.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 01:58:04 PM
DG has been totally dominant today. 6 offensive rebounds and 10 points on putbacks....
Hyperbole?
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 01, 2012, 01:55:04 PM
Gotta love that put back by DG.
Yes, especially after DJO's two circus shot misses, a front end one and one miss and then an open three miss in a two minute span. Besides that span though, he has played good.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 01, 2012, 01:58:45 PM
Hyperbole?
I don't think so...that's a really solid performance any day.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 01:53:54 PM
Ners, that is false. He picked up two fouls back-to-back because he reached and didn't move his feet. It was poor defensive effort.
I'm not knocking his game because this is the best I have seen him, but he still is having trouble with conditioning.
EDIT: And the announcer just made the same observation.
I heard MIke Kelly's comments - don't agree with him...or you..regarding Gardner. His size just makes everyone think he has stamina issues...sure he isn't a greyhound like Vander Blue...but his production rarely seems to slip when he plays more minutes...
Quote from: xghostsniperx on January 01, 2012, 02:00:51 PM
I don't think so...that's a really solid performance any day.
So now, "solid performance" is the same as "totally dominant" :o
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 01, 2012, 01:57:35 PM
He was absolutely horrendous against Vandy.
Seriously? He played FIVE minutes.....the guys that actually PLAYED were a bigger problem in that embarassing loss.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:02:18 PM
Seriously? He played FIVE minutes.....the guys that actually PLAYED were a bigger problem in that embarassing loss.
3 fouls in 5 minutes. Horrendous.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 02:01:10 PM
I heard MIke Kelly's comments - don't agree with him...or you..regarding Gardner. His size just makes everyone think he has stamina issues...sure he isn't a greyhound like Vander Blue...but his production rarely seems to slip when he plays more minutes...
It did slip...on the defensive end. If you can't see that, I don't know what else to say.
Vander has to hit those FTs...cmon... Team is 15/25 from line today.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 01, 2012, 02:01:53 PM
So now, "solid performance" is the same as "totally dominant" :o
He has been dominant. 10 points on put backs.
Uh oh >:(
anybody actually paying attention to the game any longer? Within 5...
1. Vander, what the hell.
2. Let's start hitting some free throws.
Vander misses two freethrows (3 for 8 for game) Buzz took him out. VU would just foul him.
MU throws away inbounds play and Crowder fouls.
Then a VU three. 5 point game.
MU was up 12 at 2:20 mark.
unnatural carnal knowledge Vander. He is a punk. There is absolutely no reason to leave a teammate hanging like that.
Who is Beth sleepin' with to get this announcing gig? Broad is beyond annoying, frickin' brutal.
With that close up of Blue going to the bench.....WTF!
Quote from: xghostsniperx on January 01, 2012, 02:09:35 PM
1. Vander, what the hell.
2. Let's start hitting some free throws.
What did Vander do? Did I miss something?
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:07:16 PM
He has been dominant. 10 points on put backs.
lol, if you say so, buddy.
and Gardner fouls out with a lazy reach in...
Blue has just got a stick up his heine.
Buzz took him out. Missed those freethrows.
Camera showed him walking by bench, D Wilson put hand out to shake and Blue ignored him. Very bad pub.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 02:11:35 PM
What did Vander do? Did I miss something?
When he went to the bench, Wilson offered him his hand. Blue appeared to snub him.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 01, 2012, 02:11:56 PM
lol, if you say so, buddy.
6-9 FG 13 points with 10 off of offensive rebounds. 10 rebounds with 6 offensive. 3 steals. 1 block. How many minutes? 20? Great game.
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 01, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
When he went to the bench, Wilson offered him his hand. Blue appeared to snub him.
And for that he's a "punk?" ::)
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 01, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
When he went to the bench, Wilson offered him his hand. Blue appeared to snub him.
Appeared to? It was quite obvious.
I don't care if you can't shoot a jumper, but at least be a good teammate.
Sultan, not what I said. Just looked bad on TV.
why can't we close this game out? Geez...
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 01, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
When he went to the bench, Wilson offered him his hand. Blue appeared to snub him.
Wilson offered his hand 3 times at least...a 4th possibly...even nudged him in the shoulder after the 2nd or 3rd time of being dissed...kind of like saying - DUDE - don't leave me hanging..
My goodness...some of you people seem to be just looking for reasons to rip on Blue. I just rewound it...not that big of a deal.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:15:46 PM
6-9 FG 13 points with 10 off of offensive rebounds. 10 rebounds with 6 offensive. 3 steals. 1 block. How many minutes? 20? Great game.
How the hell is that dominant? Its a good game, yes, but be real.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 01, 2012, 02:19:17 PM
How the hell is that dominant? Its a good game, yes, but be real.
I'm going to predict right here and now that we lose this game.
You can hear a pin drop.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 01, 2012, 02:20:28 PM
I'm going to predict right here and now that we lose this game.
Almost. But if you predict blowouts by Georgetown and Syracuse, you may not have many arguments. It could be a very, very ugly week.
Quote from: nyg on January 01, 2012, 02:23:15 PM
Almost. But if you predict blowouts by Georgetown and Syracuse, you may not have many arguments. It could be a very, very ugly week.
Thank God that guy stepped out of bounds...
Nova is going to take down some good teams. This is a great win. Fantastic start to the conference!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
My goodness...some of you people seem to be just looking for reasons to rip on Blue. I just rewound it...not that big of a deal.
Agree it is not that big a deal. However it is still pretty petulant and childish behavior. Grow up and be a leader.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:24:31 PM
Nova is going to take down some good teams. This is a great win. Fantastic start to the conference!
What gives you that idea? They're young, 7-7, and already have some bad losses. If you consider how bad of a loss this game would have been for MU, there's no way you can call it a "great win." This was a game we had to win, and just barely did.
EDIT: I'm probably a dumbass, and your post was /s.
The Warriors definitely have to make more free throws than they're making...this is ridiculous
We missed like 15 free throws! It should not have been close. Big teams will destroy us!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 01, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
My goodness...some of you people seem to be just looking for reasons to rip on Blue. I just rewound it...not that big of a deal.
It comes as no surprise you wouldn't think being a dick is a big deal....
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:24:31 PM
Nova is going to take down some good teams. This is a great win. Fantastic start to the conference!
You can't be serious. We were lucky to eke out a home win vs a .500 team. Glad we won but we haven't got much.
Quote from: hepennypacker5000 on January 01, 2012, 02:28:09 PM
What gives you that idea? They're young, 7-7, and already have some bad losses. If you consider how bad of a loss this game would have been for MU, there's no way you can call it a "great win." This was a game we had to win, and just barely did.
Because Nova is a very good program and always recruits top level talent. We came into the game 1-2 in our last 3. MU needed the win and Nova is not a door mat. A great win in my book. Debbie Downer.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 02:29:29 PM
It comes as no surprise you wouldn't think being a dick is a big deal....
LOL... ::)
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
Because Nova is a very good program and always recruits top level talent. We came into the game 1-2 in our last 3. MU needed to the win and Nova is not a door mat. A great win in my book. Debbie Downer.
NOVA is not going to be good this year. They lost Stokes, Fisher, Pena and others from last year and have no seniors. It will be a long season for them by NOVA prior standards.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
Because Nova is a very good program and always recruits top level talent. We came into the game 1-2 in our last 3. MU needed the win and Nova is not a door mat. A great win in my book. Debbie Downer.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
Because Nova is a very good program and always recruits top level talent. We came into the game 1-2 in our last 3. MU needed the win and Nova is not a door mat. A great win in my book. Debbie Downer.
A "great" win? You have got to be kidding.
Give their freshmen time and by late February they'll be giving people fits.
Free Throws 23 of 37. Thats terrible.
NERS, I don't think you can drive away Sultan like you did BMA725, but geez.... A win but not a pretty one. It becomes more clear with every game how much we miss CO. And free throw shooting is contagious, for better or worse. Today it was contagious in a bad way. Need better leadership out of our seniors. Jae and DJO cannot commit those stupid fouls.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
Because Nova is a very good program and always recruits top level talent. We came into the game 1-2 in our last 3. MU needed the win and Nova is not a door mat. A great win in my book. Debbie Downer.
You're delusional, in my book.
Quote from: godzilla on January 01, 2012, 02:37:45 PM
A "great" win? You have got to be kidding.
"Great" post. Are your other dozen post criticizing people excited about wins?
Quote from: tower912 on January 01, 2012, 02:40:12 PM
NERS, I don't think you can drive away Sultan like you did BMA725, but geez....
Not trying to drive Sultan away..at all...just pointing out a reality...as for BMA...that was bizarre..when he just came out of a 1-year hiding to crap on me...never 1 time did he make any mention in any thread or PM that he took exception to anything I posted...guess he was a Chico's disciple apparently..
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 02:51:02 PM
Not trying to drive Sultan away..at all...just pointing out a reality...
No, you are making sh*t up. But I think that reflects poorly upon you so I don't make a big deal out of it.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 02:51:02 PM
Not trying to drive Sultan away..at all...just pointing out a reality...as for BMA...that was bizarre..when he just came out of a 1-year hiding to crap on me...never 1 time did he make any mention in any thread or PM that he took exception to anything I posted...guess he was a Chico's disciple apparently..
Are you still drunk or maybe terribly hungover from last night? That would explain a lot...
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on January 01, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
Because Nova is a very good program and always recruits top level talent. We came into the game 1-2 in our last 3. MU needed the win and Nova is not a door mat. A great win in my book. Debbie Downer.
you're delusional in my book.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 01, 2012, 02:55:13 PM
Are you still drunk or maybe terribly hungover from last night? That would explain a lot...
Ahh no....didn't drink anything last night...but if you did...could you clarify what you feel it would explain? Thanks.
Any win is a good win. Look around the country. Look at Wisconsin losing at home to Iowa, Pitt losing at home to Wagner, Kansas losing at K.C. to Davidson, UConn losing to Central Fla., etc., etc., etc. (Not to mention MU losing by 1,000 to Vandy.)
Marquette has a lot of improving to do and I'm not sure it'll happen. I'm enough of a realist to know this isn't a Final Four team, maybe not even a one-win-in-the-tourney team unless we get an awful lot fixed. But jeesh ... we can't even enjoy a win anymore because it wasn't "enough of a win"?
The group of Marquetters I watched the game with sweated it out till the final seconds but we ultimately were happy to have won. That's allowed, right?
Quote from: godzilla on January 01, 2012, 02:37:45 PM
A "great" win? You have got to be kidding.
Given that we got absolutely dominated at home by an unranked team 3 days ago and we have road games at Georgetown and Syracuse this week, yes this was a great win. Losing 5 of 6 afer starting 11-0 would start the bubble conversations.
Nova is not very good this year but they are a young and talented team. I will never take them for granted as long as Jay Wright is there.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 03:00:38 PM
Ahh no....didn't drink anything last night...but if you did...could you clarify what you feel it would explain? Thanks.
Oh...your hyper-aggressiveness (even for you) for one. Also the need to start a thread where you are just about creaming your pants at the thought of one guy on our team beating up another...very very weird and distasteful.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 01, 2012, 03:16:20 PM
Oh...your hyper-aggressiveness (even for you) for one. Also the need to start a thread where you are just about creaming your pants at the thought of one guy on our team beating up another...very very weird and distasteful.
+10000000
ners aggression and name calling is really getting tiresome.
Quote from: MUMac on January 01, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
+10000000
ners aggression and name calling is really getting tiresome.
Please...we've got Sultan saying it is "middle school" for making issue of Vander dissing Wilson..ATL MU just called me hyper-aggressive and creaming my pants?? And my "name calling?"
Quote from: Jacks DC on January 01, 2012, 03:15:38 PM
Given that we got absolutely dominated at home by an unranked team 3 days ago and we have road games at Georgetown and Syracuse this week, yes this was a great win. Losing 5 of 6 afer starting 11-0 would start the bubble conversations.
Nova is not very good this year but they are a young and talented team. I will never take them for granted as long as Jay Wright is there.
Another thing to consider is that had MU lost....you're looking at outside of the Top-25 and a struggle to get back in with the tough upcoming schedule. Keeping a ranking early is paramount because we all know that losses are coming.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 03:27:29 PM
Please...we've got Sultan saying it is "middle school" for making issue of Vander dissing Wilson..ATL MU just called me hyper-aggressive and creaming my pants?? And my "name calling?"
How many times did you call him a "dick" today. Classless, ners, classless.
Do everyone, including yourself, a favor and stay away for awhile. Usually that is necessary for some with a loss, but your posts have grown increasingly more infantile with this win.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 01, 2012, 03:16:20 PM
Oh...your hyper-aggressiveness (even for you) for one. Also the need to start a thread where you are just about creaming your pants at the thought of one guy on our team beating up another...very very weird and distasteful.
Also doesn't help that Ners ripped on one of the best posters ever on this board (BMA725) because he is upset that poster cited Ners' antics as the reason he left (although I don't really agree with BMA's reasoning but it's his opinion and choice, not mine).
This "Game" thread has become very interesting to say the least. Especially after a win, even though it was not a blowout. I am looking forward to the Georgetown "Game" thread on Weds night, when MU goes up against Georgetown's front line of Sims, Porter and Thompson.
Quote from: MUMac on January 01, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
How many times did you call him a "dick" today. Classless, ners, classless.
Do everyone, including yourself, a favor and stay away for awhile. Usually that is necessary for some with a loss, but your posts have grown increasingly more infantile with this win.
Sultan has thrown more than his share of barbs and names at me over the years...but really...Mac, were you not just involved in a spat in the last couple of weeks?? It happens..its a message board...with different opinions. The double standard here is funny..some think it is hypersensitive to make issue over a guy not 5'ing a teammate back....but then they get their panties in a wad over a little debate/combat here?? Jeez.
Quote from: jmayer1 on January 01, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
Also doesn't help that Ners ripped on one of the best posters ever on this board (BMA725) because he is upset that poster cited Ners' antics as the reason he left (although I don't really agree with BMA's reasoning but it's his opinion and choice, not mine).
FYI - I never ripped BMA 1 time here..and dude never said he ever had an issue with me. After he unloaded on me..I returned the favor. I battled Chicos, Willie Warrior, MU84, and Golden Avalanche over and over...all with good reason..this is where I earned the fanboy/MU Rose colored glasses nickname...and now I criticize an MU player...and now we have about 5 posters here mad at me? Catch 22. Perhaps I will take a break from Scoop...as it seems insane how I'm damned if I do (criticize MU) and am damned if I don't criticize MU.
Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2012, 03:49:41 PM
Sultan has thrown more than his share of barbs and names at me over the years...but really...Mac, were you not just involved in a spat in the last couple of weeks?? It happens..its a message board...with different opinions. The double standard here is funny..some think it is hypersensitive to make issue over a guy not 5'ing a teammate back....but then they get their panties in a wad over a little debate/combat here?? Jeez.
Spats are far too frequent to you, though, ners. Not being hypocritical, being honest. I don't recall Sultan calling you a "dick". That's what sets you apart from most of the rest. Quick with the name calling.
But as for being hypocritical, do you really want to go into the "get their panties in a wad" debate? Geez, you get yours in a wad more that ANYONE I have ever known. ANYONE.