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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: foreverwarriors on December 22, 2011, 12:04:54 PM
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Glad this bullet was dodged...
http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/33991655
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So he got caught with some weed, big friggin deal. I'd still love to see him at Marquette.
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So he got caught with some weed, big friggin deal. I'd still love to see him at Marquette.
Roll Together, Blaze Together
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Sounds like an ideal player for Huggins but not for Buzz
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Yeah, we never had players on our team enjoy the reefer while at marquette.
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Oh, like only choir boys are on this team.
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Yeah, we never had players on our team enjoy the reefer while at marquette.
But, they were never arrested.
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Sounds like an ideal player for Huggins but not for Buzz
How many times did Huggins (team / school) appear on the front page of the Chicago Tribune...
...I'm just sayin'
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How many times did Huggins (team / school) appear on the front page of the Chicago Tribune...
...I'm just sayin'
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the answer to the IMPLIED question is Buzz = 0, BBall team = 0, School = 1
And since you asked about Huggins ... how many times did Buzz (team/school) appeared on the front page of the Morgantown Dominion Post?
... I'm just saying
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I'm pertty sure Cincy BBALL was on the Cover on lots on newspapers when little duck tapped a guy to a lawn chair and threatened to stab him if he did not pay him back. Also when Huggy was found on the side of the Road with Vomit all over himself and got a DUI.
In the spring of 2005, an assistant coach, two players and a recruit were arrested for various offenses.
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Holdup...
Was he arrested with weed, or true narcotics?
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The linked article says narcotics.
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crap, our PG from two years ago was booted (then happily reinstated) in connection with the Mary Jane.
We've taken plenty of bullets. A college kid smoking some reefer would be child's play at this point.
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But, they were never arrested.
Seriously? So as long as you're never caught for murder, you are a decent guy?
As a basketball fan, I think it is worse when the offense effects the team, which it happened for our player, than whether or not he got arrested. Or, in another case, threaten your chance of a pro-career because you smoked in a country where it is more frowned upon.
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IIRC Bo Ellis was stopped for unpaid parking tickets and they found pot in the car, Al made Bo apologize at the next home game. Today he would be in every paper and internet site but things were a little different back then.
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I would be willing to bet that almost every player on our team partakes in some moon cabbage on a fairly regular basis. I have absolutely no problem with that.
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It's interesting that we are sometimes upset with players for split second mistakes made on the court, but we often excuse other questionable decisions off of the court.
"I don't care if (insert player) smokes."
BUT... if that player misses a layup...
"(insert player) should never shoot! What was he thinking?"
We are a fickle bunch.
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I'll give them slack on both counts. They are college kids. I missed lay-ups all the time playing intramural hoops and burned quite a bit of weed during my 4 years in Milwaukee. No regrets.
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Oliver Lee plead guilty to fraudulent use of a credit card.
Pop Sims and Damon Key were involved in domestic battery cases.
Artie Green served hard time for delivery of narcotics and armed robbery.
Tony Davis slugged a coed.
And so on and so on.
We're not immune.
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Many pooh-pooh "weed", but the release indicated possession of narcotics, which I don't be;ieve usually means grass. Narcotics = drugs.
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I'll give them slack on both counts. They are college kids. I missed lay-ups all the time playing intramural hoops and burned quite a bit of weed during my 4 years in Milwaukee. No regrets.
Why stop their ... how about giving them a pass for slugging someone in Qboda at 1AM? Or trying to "convince" a co-ed to have sex with them. After all their college kids, it happens.
And, while we're at it, I would not suspend anyone for a game for being late to a meeting. College kids do that too.
and hey, why go to class and graduate? Better they practice free-throws becuase Buzz does not.
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Pretty sure Aaric's parents were firin' up some doobs when they decided on a spelling for his name.
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Why stop their ... how about giving them a pass for slugging someone in Qboda at 1AM? Or trying to "convince" a co-ed to have sex with them. After all their college kids, it happens.
And, while we're at it, I would not suspend anyone for a game for being late to a meeting. College kids do that too.
and hey, why go to class and graduate? Better they practice free-throws becuase Buzz does not.
There's a difference between condoning and accepting the behavior, but you have to be realistic and understanding. If a player busts his ass, is a good teammate, and overall a good person, I'm not going to throw him under the bus for getting caught with weed. No buddies perfect. Yes, there will be punishments, but these are young adults under a microscope.
I graduated already, but I'm pretty sure I would get a suspension for violating team rules for my actions before, during and after the Nort Col game. :) Does that make me a bad person who shams Marquette University. No, I save that for those who commit serious crimes.
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There's a difference between condoning and accepting the behavior, but you have to be realistic and understanding. If a player busts his ass, is a good teammate, and overall a good person, I'm not going to throw him under the bus for getting caught with weed. No buddies perfect. Yes, there will be punishments, but these are young adults under a microscope.
I graduated already, but I'm pretty sure I would get a suspension for violating team rules for my actions before, during and after the Nort Col game. :) Does that make me a bad person who shams Marquette University. No, I save that for those who commit serious crimes.
Dangerous thinking here. Good think Buzz would think you're nuts.
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Dangerous thinking here. Good think Buzz would think you're nuts.
You think Buzz is going to throw one of his "sons" under the bus and wished he never joined the program because he made a bad choice? It would be pretty hypocritical if he does.
Never said there shouldn't be consequences. You can be a tough educator but still do it with a sense of understanding. It's called tough love, not judging a person off one mistake like some are doing with this Murray kid. All I'm saying is I don't like fans who cast stones at 19-year-olds unless it is something really bad.
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Pretty sure Aaric's parents were firin' up some doobs when they decided on a spelling for his name.
Not sure, but I'm pretty positive this guy's parents did (http://deadspin.com/188653/ladies-and-gentlemen-meet-lucious-pusey).
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I guess I'm out of touch a bit. What did Artie Green, the Anti-Gravity man, ex-Cowboy D-back do to get some hard time?
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From the article:
Bob Huggins released the following statement. It reads in full: “I’ve been alerted about the situation and the matter will be handled internally.”
So, they're splitting the weed among the rest of the players? ;D
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Maybe I'm not understanding you ....
I think you're saying if a player has some weed, that is what kids do and it should be covered up. If so, that is wrong.
I'm saying if you smoke weed and get caught, you get punished. No not the death penalty but punished appropriate with the crime. Even if that means an arrest.
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Sounds like an ideal player for Huggins but not for Buzz
Not if you take their nicknames into account. Huggy vs Buzz
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Glad this bullet was dodged...
http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/33991655
Sounds like an ideal player for Huggins but not for Buzz
Maybe I'm not understanding you ....
I think you're saying if a player has some weed, that is what kids do and it should be covered up. If so, that is wrong.
I'm saying if you smoke weed and get caught, you get punished. No not the death penalty but punished appropriate with the crime. Even if that means an arrest.
See quotes above. I think the player should be punished but to say he isn't a Buzz player cause he got caught with weed? "we dodged a bullet" That's BS. All we know is he got caught with weed. We don't know anything about his work ethic, loyalty, or other aspects of a human I care more about.
Yeah, he should be suspended but I honestly wouldn't change my opinion of him as a person. Young people make mistakes and deal with the consequences. I never smoked weed in my life, but I won't judge him if that's the only time he got caught. If I was the coach, I would say you screwed up, make him apologize, suspend him for an appropriate amount of time, and (as long as he doesn't get in trouble again) take him back without ever caring about it again.
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Buzz likes to talk about "high character" guys so it is assumed he would see a guy like Murray would be a problem and pass on him.
Huggins doesn't seem to care about a players character so he has had many guys that run afoul of the law both at Cincy and WVU (I cannot remember if the same was true at KSU). In fact, Huggins himself has run afoul of the law.
That is why Huggins is being criticized because of his own character and history of players with arrest records.
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Speakin' of characters, good game tonight with Baylor vs UWV.
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Buzz likes to talk about "high character" guys so it is assumed he would see a guy like Murray would be a problem and pass on him.
Huggins doesn't seem to care about a players character so he has had many guys that run afoul of the law both at Cincy and WVU (I cannot remember if the same was true at KSU). In fact, Huggins himself has run afoul of the law.
That is why Huggins is being criticized because of his own character and history of players with arrest records.
High character guys make mistakes. See half our roster. He also recruited Maymon so I take his "high character" quote with a grain of salt. I think Buzz sees the player he thinks he can make out of the young men. Nothing wrong with that but this board takes Buzz's word like gospel when really he is trying to assemble a high-caliber team.
Again, we are basing a guys character based on one known instance of bad judgment. Did Buzz really pass on Murray or did we "pull out" when we were out of the running? I still think if Murray said in April he would sign a NLI to MU, Buzz would've taken in a second.
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There's a difference between condoning and accepting the behavior, but you have to be realistic and understanding. If a player busts his ass, is a good teammate, and overall a good person, I'm not going to throw him under the bus for getting caught with weed. No buddies perfect. Yes, there will be punishments, but these are young adults under a microscope.
I graduated already, but I'm pretty sure I would get a suspension for violating team rules for my actions before, during and after the Nort Col game. :) Does that make me a bad person who shams Marquette University. No, I save that for those who commit serious crimes.
Smokin "something" as he typed this?
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High character guys make mistakes. See half our roster. He also recruited Maymon so I take his "high character" quote with a grain of salt. I think Buzz sees the player he thinks he can make out of the young men. Nothing wrong with that but this board takes Buzz's word like gospel when really he is trying to assemble a high-caliber team.
Again, we are basing a guys character based on one known instance of bad judgment. Did Buzz really pass on Murray or did we "pull out" when we were out of the running? I still think if Murray said in April he would sign a NLI to MU, Buzz would've taken in a second.
Maymon's problem was(is) his father. From all indications he is a good kid.
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Maymon's problem was(is) his father. From all indications he is a good kid.
+1 I don't know him personally but everything I have read says J-May is a good kid and his dad is overbearing.
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Pretty sure Aaric's parents were firin' up some doobs when they decided on a spelling for his name.
Awesome!!
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It great to see that Huggins' coaching has had an immediate impact on this guy.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if a guy later caught with narcotics not pot, didn't have a little trouble when Buzz talked to him about the expectations he'd have coming to MU. No I don't think that I'm being "a homer" in saying this. I think that walking the straight and narrow is a part of the Buzz sell, even with the problems that popped up last year. Rare is the college kid ever think that getting some sexual gratification is going to lead to consequences.