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Title: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: Marqus Howard on November 03, 2011, 06:35:12 PM
By NBA D League team Tulsa 66ers. He was picked 5th in the second round.

Good for him.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: NersEllenson on November 03, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
Congrats to Dwight...hope he keeps grinding and grinding and grinding...as I could see him getting a stint in the NBA if he works his tail off...could follow the same path as Jerel...(I see them as very similar players), the issue for Dwight was he is more of a "2" than a "1" and played out of position all year.  Definitely think he's better off the ball as a "2"
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: GGGG on November 03, 2011, 06:58:23 PM
Yeah, but he's a little on the small size to be a 2 in the NBA.  He's Ben Gordan's size without Gordan's shot.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 03, 2011, 06:58:57 PM
Buycks greatest asset is he had a tendency to make unexpectedy huge plays/shots in big games. That's a nice attribute, but I'm not sure about his NBA chances.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on November 03, 2011, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: Ners on November 03, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
Congrats to Dwight...hope he keeps grinding and grinding and grinding...as I could see him getting a stint in the NBA if he works his tail off...could follow the same path as Jerel...(I see them as very similar players), the issue for Dwight was he is more of a "2" than a "1" and played out of position all year.  Definitely think he's better off the ball as a "2"
Same tendency to make careless/sloppy plays too. 
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: Warriors88 on November 03, 2011, 07:43:56 PM
Dwight was a decent college player.  Would make some tough shots.  But no way is he a NBA player.  Poor ball handling skills, not enough size for 2 guard, bad decision making, etc.

Not taking anything away that he accomplished at MU.  Just don't see him in the show.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: Untucked on November 03, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: Ners on November 03, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
Congrats to Dwight...hope he keeps grinding and grinding and grinding...as I could see him getting a stint in the NBA if he works his tail off...could follow the same path as Jerel...(I see them as very similar players), the issue for Dwight was he is more of a "2" than a "1" and played out of position all year.  Definitely think he's better off the ball as a "2"
Did you just compare Buycks to McNeal? McNeal is the leading scorer in MU history and an excellent defender. Buycks probable had one 20 point game at MU, and couldn't guard anybody. Buycks in the NBA??? WOW!!
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: NersEllenson on November 03, 2011, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Untucked on November 03, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
Did you just compare Buycks to McNeal? McNeal is the leading scorer in MU history and an excellent defender. Buycks probable had one 20 point game at MU, and couldn't guard anybody. Buycks in the NBA??? WOW!!

I see your point.   ;D  I do wonder if Jerel was forced to play the point in his time at MU (and if he only had 2 years at MU) how drastically different his stats/performance might have been.  Jerel was great while at MU, but it could be argued his defense dropped off gradually each year, as his offense improved.

I see Buycks as having a lot of potential, and a lot of the puzzle pieces it takes to make it...its just a matter of putting them all together on a consistent basis.  But yes, all in all...a big stretch for Dwight to make the NBA - but getting drafted to the NBDL does say something as to scouts perceptions of him...beyond what his stats may have reflected/merited while at MU.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: GGGG on November 03, 2011, 08:04:46 PM
Quote from: Untucked on November 03, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
Did you just compare Buycks to McNeal? McNeal is the leading scorer in MU history and an excellent defender.

He was completely overated as a defender.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: Skatastrophy on November 03, 2011, 08:06:19 PM
Grats Buycks!  That's seriously awesome that he got picked up professionally :D
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: brewcity77 on November 03, 2011, 08:07:48 PM
Oh lord, don't let willie warrior see this thread  :-X

Buycks at his best had enough promise that he could be a fringe NBA player. I thought as much early this year when he was playing out of his mind. Sadly, his season spiraled downward and he didn't look nearly as promising at the end of the year.

He has a few solid skills. He's a good shooter from range, is athletic, can get to the rim, and has decent length. However he doesn't particularly finish at the rim with authority and defensively was never a standout. I could see him eventually developing to the point where he got a look or two. I'm not saying a star by any means, but he could be an 11th or 12th man, getting spot time. He's not there yet, and it would likely take a few years of work to get to that point, but with his shooting and athleticism, it's not an impossible dream.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on November 03, 2011, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 03, 2011, 08:04:46 PM
He was completely overated as a defender.

lots of "deflections"...
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: GGGG on November 03, 2011, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: Z F-B on November 03, 2011, 08:12:18 PM
lots of "deflections"...


I just threw up in my mouth a little...
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: MattyWarrior on November 03, 2011, 08:22:16 PM
He played a good role for us. he deserves all the kudos he can get. Congratulations to DB.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: nyg on November 03, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: Untucked on November 03, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
Did you just compare Buycks to McNeal? McNeal is the leading scorer in MU history and an excellent defender. Buycks probable had one 20 point game at MU, and couldn't guard anybody. Buycks in the NBA??? WOW!!

I would tend to agree.  McNeal got a ten day callup with New Orleans and did not play one minute.  That is the extent of his NBA career to date and will in all probability be his last.  I am sure Buycks is elated to be drafted by the D league in the second round, but realistically his chances are slim.

Wish him the best of luck, he was a good representative for the team. 
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 03, 2011, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: Z F-B on November 03, 2011, 08:12:18 PM
lots of "deflections"...


Another in a long line of worthless "Creanisms."
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: Jay Bee on November 03, 2011, 10:25:11 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 03, 2011, 08:04:46 PM
He was completely overated as a defender.

Your spelling is overrated. 

Dwight will drop 30 on those NBDL clowns
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: JimmyB! on November 03, 2011, 10:49:56 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 03, 2011, 06:58:57 PM
Buycks greatest asset is he had a tendency to make unexpectedy huge plays/shots in big games. That's a nice attribute, but I'm not sure about his NBA chances.

Like in the Lville game last year...  :o  That game still makes me sick.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: Boone on November 03, 2011, 11:07:36 PM
I'd have thought Buycks would have a better chance of being drafted into the military, but good luck to him anyway.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: bamamarquettefan on November 03, 2011, 11:23:27 PM
Buycks is physical enough that he could sneak in as a 2 - while I'm afraid jerel just isn't.

I disagree completely on defense - I believe vander and Dwight were by far our top two on-ball defenders at guard. I sat on the floor for the duke game last year, and Dwight looked strong and quick enough to match up against the beat back court in the country, including the no. 1 pick in the draft.

Clearly it drained him to have to focus on running the offense over the course of they year, but while he does not compare to the great jerel McNeal as a college player, he has a much better chance to land on an NBA Bench.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: wojosdojo on November 03, 2011, 11:35:04 PM
Wasn't Dwight going ham this summer at the pro am? Obviously the skill level doesn't compare to the NBA but are we saying that at MU he was asked to do things to not allow him to go off. I know thats probably the best way to go at it to win, but I feel in the NBADL he won't be to structured and be able to go off.  My moneys on him all day at the playground.

As far as unexpected plays.. final layup up and under McGee at Pitt.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 04, 2011, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 03, 2011, 08:04:46 PM
He was completely overated as a defender.
You can say that again. I think he had a brain aneurysm against Villanova in the '09 BET. First an ill advised shot up one and then getting stuck in cement on the other end. Horrible.

I also recall McNeal being on the receiving end of one of the worst ankle breakings I've ever seen at the Bradley Center. I believe it was also against Villanova in the game in which James got hurt.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: jmayer1 on November 04, 2011, 09:02:32 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 04, 2011, 08:56:07 AM
You can say that again. I think he had a brain aneurysm against Villanova in the '09 BET. First an ill advised shot up one and then getting stuck in cement on the other end. Horrible.

I also recall McNeal being on the receiving end of one of the worst ankle breakings I've ever seen at the Bradley Center. I believe it was also against Villanova in the game in which James got hurt.

Didn't James get hurt against UConn?
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: wojosdojo on November 04, 2011, 09:04:19 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 04, 2011, 08:56:07 AM
You can say that again. I think he had a brain aneurysm against Villanova in the '09 BET. First an ill advised shot up one and then getting stuck in cement on the other end. Horrible.

I also recall McNeal being on the receiving end of one of the worst ankle breakings I've ever seen at the Bradley Center. I believe it was also against Villanova in the game in which James got hurt.

UCONN. AJ Price. Taunting to watch on youtube
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: GGGG on November 04, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
Quote from: jmayer1 on November 04, 2011, 09:02:32 AM
Didn't James get hurt against UConn?

Yes.  James was the better on-ball defender.  McNeal was the type of all-or-nothing drives who drives me up a wall.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: MUMac on November 04, 2011, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 04, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
Yes.  James was the better on-ball defender.  McNeal was the type of all-or-nothing drives who drives me up a wall.

I agree that James was the better on-ball defender, and frankly, better overall defender.  McNeal took chances on defense and had good anticipation off the ball.  He would get steals off of this and lead to his reputation.  Of course, you tend to forget, outside of the games like Nova, when he got beat by peaking or anticipating.
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: MarquetteDano on November 04, 2011, 10:32:13 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 03, 2011, 08:07:48 PM
Oh lord, don't let willie warrior see this thread  :-X

All I know is the Tulsa 66ers comment board had better be ready.  Because Willie is a 'comin....
Title: Re: Dwight Buycks Drafted
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 04, 2011, 10:58:02 AM
Jerel was a really good and absolutely fearless player, but his numbers (and because of that his status with many MU fans) were skewed to the positive side more than any Warrior in my memory. He got big minutes from day one because there was no one ahead of him. His defense looked better than it was because DJ's ability on the ball versus the opponents best ballhandler allowed him to overplay his man. And his basketball IQ was low (defensive and offensive brain cramps at the end of games, countless rejections following ill advised, head down drives to the hoop, etc.
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