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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: drbeauch on October 26, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
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Aaron Durley just committed to Marquette per his Twitter account.
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Aaron-Durley-107284
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Welcome aboard, big fella! Glad to have you in the MU family!
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Texans do well in wisconsin! Welcome
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@ADurley24
Aaron Durley
Well guys.... I just committed to Marquette University tonite!!! #ItsOfficial
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Pretty cool. Huge guy, I hope he has good upside.
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Wont get a single mention in the MJS tomorrow either.
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ny2lasports.com/ImageFilesPlayerProfiles/Aaron%2520Durley-X.JPG&imgrefurl=http://moctalk.yuku.com/topic/16668/Aaron-Durley-2012-recruit&usg=__o5L1MQb3vg3JM0VuJog2yHp2HsU=&h=420&w=336&sz=54&hl=en&start=17&zoom=1&tbnid=mSwA1Ijy_jLuOM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=100&ei=ia6oTrSbJurosQLZw7jKDw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAaron%2BDurley%2Bbasketball%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:*:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GWYF_enUS308%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1
Sturdy looking young Fella!!
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http://www.houstonhoopstars.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69&Itemid=77
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He's a two star on ESPN.Ranked 82 Class of 2012 Very big and strong, can score around basket 15 and in. Moves well,soft hands,not much of a vertical. Sounds kind of like Gardner but bigger.
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Maybe he'll be our 3 point threat like Ox or is he more of a switchable?
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Sounds kind of like Gardner but bigger.
So what's bigger than an ox?
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Maybe he'll be our 3 point threat like Ox or is he more of a switchable?
Dude's fastball is clocked at 97 clicks.
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Supposedly not official yet per Scout board...
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Its official according to Aaron Durley himself lol. He already announced it on Twitter
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neato burrito, welcome, Aaron.
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Supposedly not official yet per Scout board...
I suppose they gotta check their unlimited contacts first
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Supposedly not official yet per Scout board...
official enough for them to tweet it out, apparently
http://twitter.com/#!/MarquetteHoops/status/129364602541711360 (http://twitter.com/#!/MarquetteHoops/status/129364602541711360)
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official enough for them to tweet it out, apparently
http://twitter.com/#!/MarquetteHoops/status/129364602541711360 (http://twitter.com/#!/MarquetteHoops/status/129364602541711360)
His hometown newspaper as well.
http://twitter.com/#!/FtBendSports
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Excellent news, he's perfectly positioned to learn behind Otule and Gardner for a year, start contributing as a sophomore, then take over as a junior. Great recruit by Buzz, and perfect timing to add a big.
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So what's bigger than an ox?
Paul Bunyan
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Todd Warner is reporting that the Otule connection is at work as Durley's teammate at Fort Bend is #21 ranked Cameron Ridley
http://twitter.com/#!/Todd_Warner (http://twitter.com/#!/Todd_Warner)
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I am pumped about this signing...Durley can come in and use his entire freshman season working with the coaches, training staff, and improve his game everyday in practice against O'Tule and Ox...
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Big, strong projects. Booyah! Welcome AD! The "Durley Double"?
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Dunk video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdcIRL-T55Y
Spin move video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnLmPKro7Q&feature=related
pretty light on his feet and the spin move reminds me of Scott Meritt plus 100 lbs.
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I am pumped about this signing...Durley can come in and use his entire freshman season working with the coaches, training staff, and improve his game everyday in practice against O'Tule and Ox...
Who's O'Tule?
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Rounds out a real nice class....combo guard in Taylor...off guard in Ferguson...switchable in S. Taylor and project big in Durley. Solid, solid stuff.
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Todd Warner is reporting that the Otule connection is at work as Durley's teammate at Fort Bend is #21 ranked Cameron Ridley
http://twitter.com/#!/Todd_Warner (http://twitter.com/#!/Todd_Warner)
Ridley is committed to Texas.
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"I just thought that Marquette was the best fit for me," said Durley. "They do a great job of developing big men and they have a very good program up there."
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Ridley is committed to Texas.
Durleys teammate is 5 star Cameron Ridley, #2 center and #21 prospect overall. Should get better everyday in practice
Yes, I didn't quote the tweet so it became misleading, although it is still technically a verbal commit until the signing period. Ft. Bend Bush has a great big man legacy was my point.
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Great signing. Plus, I'll never get tired of seeing this Little League picture of him...
(http://img.freebase.com/api/trans/raw/m/03t8ndy)
Welcome to Marquette, Aaron!
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Great signing. Plus, I'll never get tired of seeing this Little League picture of him...
(http://img.freebase.com/api/trans/raw/m/03t8ndy)
Welcome to Marquette, Aaron!
Picture some pint sized PG being told "Not in my house boy!" with a hard foul. >:(
Aaron, just grab some boards, alter a few shots and put the garbage back in the hole.
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Maybe a redshirt player? Any thoughts? MU now is looking really big in airports again. Thick like Gates from Cinci.
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Who's O'Tule?
Otule's Irish cousin...you didn't know about him?
I'm a jackass!
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With that kind of size, he has a ton of potential. Great signing. Durley can learn some good defense from Otule for a year and good offense from Gardner for 2 years.....he's coming into a great environment to develop.
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Gotta love that we are now a school that has a rep for developing bigs.
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http://v4.texags.com/Premium/Recruits/Basketball/2012/TexAgsTop
Rated # 13 in Texas by the Aggie site, up with some great names
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Great News! Congrats to Buzz and staff, and welcome aboard Aaron! Think Aaron fits real well with the rest of the class, and fills a big need (pun intended). Will be great for Aaron to apprentice under Otule next season, and then hopefully as a sophomore, be ready to provide some good minutes.
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Maybe a redshirt player? Any thoughts? MU now is looking really big in airports again. Thick like Gates from Cinci.
No! What's with people always suggesting redshirts? You only get 12 scholarships so you don't want to waste one by having a healthy scholarship player on the bench in street clothes.
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He's a two star on ESPN.Ranked 82 Class of 2012 Very big and strong, can score around basket 15 and in. Moves well,soft hands,not much of a vertical. Sounds kind of like Gardner but bigger.
I wouldn't worry about the 2-star. They haven't updated that since Kansas State, Arizona and Texas A&M came in with late interest. I think Buzz snuck another one out before he was discovered (see Gardner, DJO and Crowder)
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I suppose they gotta check their unlimited contacts first
How dare you! Don't you know Jim Ganzer has more contacts than Bausch & Lomb?
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No! What's with people always suggesting redshirts? You only get 12 scholarships so you don't want to waste one by having a healthy scholarship player on the bench in street clothes.
Actually, you get 13 scholarships.
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Maybe a redshirt player? Any thoughts? MU now is looking really big in airports again. Thick like Gates from Cinci.
There is no reason to redshirt unless they are injured or a transfer. Man is this team going to be big...
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http://v4.texags.com/Premium/Recruits/Basketball/2012/TexAgsTop
Rated # 13 in Texas by the Aggie site, up with some great names
There he is listed at 6'9 and 305. As always with recruits, I wonder where the truth lies.
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There is no reason to redshirt unless they are injured or a transfer. Man is this team going to be big...
I am guessing part of the infatuation with redshirting is watching bo and the Badgers. They try to redshirt all the frosh big's, Steimsma not withstanding. Add to that, his freshman year MU will have Otule and Gardner at the 5 spot, and the question is about playing time.
I agree, if he is ready, he will play. You are also correct, this team will be very big.
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http://v4.texags.com/Premium/Recruits/Basketball/2012/TexAgsTop
Rated # 13 in Texas by the Aggie site, up with some great names
Gotta love that #5 on this list is named Wannah Bail. Oh, and #6 is a kid named Marcus Smart, and he attends Marcus High School -- must be pretty smart to have a school named after him.
Sorry ... I notice silly stuff like that.
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I hope the kid develops and is known as a basketball player and not the tallest kid in Little League World Series history.
If gets playing time, will be a nice side story on the TV telecasts.
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Gotta love that #5 on this list is named Wannah Bail.
Bail was offered by Marquette, but haven't heard anything about him for awhile. My guess is that the interest has waned considerably.
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I love that we're adding size to our squad - something that, lately, we have not been used to. I think he definitely falls under the category of a project as he lost a year of ball. But the fact that he was all-state his soph year, in TX mind you, says something.
Found some videos with Durley IN them, not necessarily featured:
#52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXplej7nhvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZj1_r24INc
Shows up at the end of this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zXM0c8R7n4
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Opposing players won't even be able to get into the lane when we have Durley and Gardner in together.
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After watching those 3 youtube videos, it appears he is big and he is a project. Good building blocks, but needs to develop.
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After watching those 3 youtube videos, it appears he is big and he is a project. Good building blocks, but needs to develop.
If you can't snag the surefire top 5 big man, these are exactly the type of project centers you want - players with high ceilings that haven't come close to reaching them yet. Give this guy two years with Todd Smith, the assistants, and Gardner and I think he'll be a polished force by the time he's a junior. He's clearly coordinated enough, given that he played baseball at a fairly high level. If he can catch and flush dump-offs automatically, rebound his area, and play solid D, he'll contribute to a lot of wins over four years. Anything more than that and he (along with Gardner) could be the start of a reputation for developing big men at MU, which would be HUGE.
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If you can't snag the surefire top 5 big man, these are exactly the type of project centers you want - players with high ceilings that haven't come close to reaching them yet. Give this guy two years with Todd Smith, the assistants, and Gardner and I think he'll be a polished force by the time he's a junior. He's clearly coordinated enough, given that he played baseball at a fairly high level. If he can catch and flush dump-offs automatically, rebound his area, and play solid D, he'll contribute to a lot of wins over four years. Anything more than that and he (along with Gardner) could be the start of a reputation for developing big men at MU, which would be HUGE.
Exactly, the kid pitched in little leagues so he has to have some coordination. Under the radar nationally as he was hurt as a junior, sort of like DWade, big, physical guy. Looks to
need some quickness, but after Todd gets him to reshape his body, he will get that. He will not be that needed his freshman or soph year so whatever you get from him will be a plus.
Redshirt, maybe. Lots of time to improve but you can not teach height, he has that. If he improves as much as Chris has in 4 years, MU will be fine. 10 pts and 6 boards, has to be
a goal for any center at MU. Not sure Chris will get there, but might be close. Add Gardner in there and those numbers can be beat.
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Opposing players won't even be able to get into the lane when we have Durley and Gardner in together.
The Golden Wall?
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Wont get a single mention in the MJS tomorrow either.
wrong.
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Dude's fastball is clocked at 97 clicks.
60 mph?
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This was great news! We've all been waiting for the signing of a good "big". Congratulations Buzz and crew!
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I am guessing part of the infatuation with redshirting is watching bo and the Badgers. They try to redshirt all the frosh big's, Steimsma not withstanding. Add to that, his freshman year MU will have Otule and Gardner at the 5 spot, and the question is about playing time.
Well, redshirting has not been always effective for UW. For Butch and Wilkinson..yeah. But all Gavinski's redshirt did is tie up his scholarship for another year.
I think it would be important for him to see limited minutes as a freshman. As a sophomore, he will be the back up to DG, and by the time his is a junior will likely be the starter. I would hate for DG's back up to be an inexperienced redshirt freshman....God forbid he gets injured.
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Buzz has said that he goes on a case-by-case basis for what is best for the student athlete in regards to red-shirting. In another thread, brewcity77 said that Otule was the most important player to keep healthy this year. I still thing good PG play is more important, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't make sense. And that will still be an issue next year. So unless there is a medical reason to red-shirt him, let him play. Just don't expect the second coming of Duncan or Shaq. DG was very good last year in small doses, but the last true impact freshman big at MU was......... Mac? Maybe? But if he wants to play, if he wants to be done with school in 4 years, let him and don't beat him up if he isn't an instant star.
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In related news, I hope this closes the door on the P Nolan recruitment. I've read some inappropriate twitter writing in the past couple years from recruits and players, but his just made me squirm to think I would be encouraging my kid to cheer for him.
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Aaron's Wiki Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Durley
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I am guessing part of the infatuation with redshirting is watching bo and the Badgers. They try to redshirt all the frosh big's, Steimsma not withstanding. Add to that, his freshman year MU will have Otule and Gardner at the 5 spot, and the question is about playing time.
I agree, if he is ready, he will play. You are also correct, this team will be very big.
I agree with the red shirt fascination due to Bucky. Rroblem truly is though you dont really know which undeveloped bigs ultimately develop. If the guy becomes really good fine, but often times they dont and then u just have dead weight on the roster. Look at half the big stiffs that have redshirted at Wisky...a good number of them have plain stunk as 5th year seniors. Used 5 years to get nothing.
Many people have lamented that had BArro had been redshirted one year he would have been really good. Well the problem was he was the ONLY player with any size on the team and he had to play.
I truly beleive the best solution is bring in one true big (4.5-5) every year and let them play as much time as they earn but by strategy get more playing tme as they progress thru the system and earn it.
In this particualar situation, as well, Durley is prolly not a good fit for a redshirt as we did not sign a big last year. Therefore, next year he will prolly not play a whole lot after NOn-con, but we will for sure need him as a soph. as he will be the second big on the roster behind Gardner and he will definitely be needed. If we had a Junior big on the roster there would be more flexibilty.
Great signing by Buzz, this is exactly what we need. true bigs that are athletic and have the right chararcter that are willing to come in and bust their ass for a year or two before they earn the right to play. In my mind a better signing than Nolan would be becuase we needed a true 5 , not a 6'11 guy who weighs 200lbs and thinks he is a 3 that wants time right away. I am sure he is a fine player but not our most pressing need. Now if someone leaves I think a player of Nolans type would be great.
PS. as i have read more around the board about the 2 stars and he should be rated higher etc.
ahhhhhhhhh...let me just try to end that right now. Folks he is a 2 star player. Yes the videos are limited but he looks like a 2 star. He was not hurt during AAu this summer and the "gurus" saw him. Same people that rated Ridly a 5 rated him a 2. He will come in here much like Otule. Looking like he never played before and maybe Buzz will say he was the second worst basketball player over 6'2 to ever come out of Texas. So dont set this kid up to be a dissappoint ment or a failure after his Freshman year. He appears to be big and athletic and I am sure he was solect for this "project" becuase Buzz liked his athleticism and character and felt he was acould that could endure 2-3 years of failure and pain to enjoy 1-2 years of being a player. See otule.
One last note....one other thing I like about this signing is being at the same HS as Ridly he gets the benefit of going up against a 5 star Center his same size every day under the guidance of their HS coach who is a former D1 bball coach. That is a great situation for this kid.
Really excited, but this is a marathon not a sprint.
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If you can't snag the surefire top 5 big man, these are exactly the type of project centers you want - players with high ceilings that haven't come close to reaching them yet. Give this guy two years with Todd Smith, the assistants, and Gardner and I think he'll be a polished force by the time he's a junior. He's clearly coordinated enough, given that he played baseball at a fairly high level. If he can catch and flush dump-offs automatically, rebound his area, and play solid D, he'll contribute to a lot of wins over four years. Anything more than that and he (along with Gardner) could be the start of a reputation for developing big men at MU, which would be HUGE.
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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Jaaron? Would he be open to it?
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Welcome Aaron, your name is in lights on the MUScoop scholarship table...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
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Rocky:
The table contains a lot of outstanding talent. Buzz and company have done extremely well recruiting a high level of talent to Marquette. Can't wait for the season to begin!
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Welcome Aaron, you name is in lights on the MUScoop scholarship table...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Just because I cannot say it enough... I F*CKING LOVE THE SCHOLARSHIP TABLE!
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It's sad that the three amigos are no longer seen on it though...
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Get over it. Buzz has upgraded over the previous turtlehead.
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Sad that I can't bring up my three favorite MU players without Crean being brought up...
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Welcome Aaron, your name is in lights on the MUScoop scholarship table...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Jake Thomas should be updated to scholarship after this year shouldn't he?
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Jake Thomas should be updated to scholarship after this year shouldn't he?
No, he's only on scholarship this year since we happened to have two open that were going unused. They will be used after this year and he will go back to walk-on status.
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Scholarship table is awesome to look at.We keep getting deeper and more talented. Thanks 4 keeping it updated.
Thirteen getups to signing day
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Sad that I can't bring up my three favorite MU players without Crean being brought up...
Agreed. Not all dentists have a painless practice.
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Does anyone know if Marquette officially measures the players' height each year?
The reason that I ask is that I noticed discrepancies from several media sources listing the height of Steve Taylor as either 6'9", 6'8" or 6'7". And this has been true for some of the other players.
High school sophomores, juniors and seniors usually continue to grow taller. Thus it makes sense that the players may grow taller than the height they were when recruited.
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It's sad that the three amigos are no longer seen on it though...
I agree, but it sure is nice to see Deonte in the right hand column!
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Big kid
(http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/topicimages/a/aa/aaron_durley.gif)
A bit disappointed on who else was recruiting him. South Florida and Chattanooga. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/75863/aaron-durley
Some of the previous coaches were destroyed here for landing kids that had those type of suitors.
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Big kid
(http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/topicimages/a/aa/aaron_durley.gif)
A bit disappointed on who else was recruiting him. South Florida and Chattanooga. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/75863/aaron-durley
Some of the previous coaches were destroyed here for landing kids that had those type of suitors.
Nice try Chicos. K State was closing in too. Plus Buzz has shown the ability to develop Otule and Gardner, two similar under the radar bigs, therefore he gets the benefit of the doubt. But keep trying to stir sh*t up. Sad that everyone has ignored your Cracked Sidewalks posts about realignment so you had to come over here to drop a turd on a kid's commitment thread?
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With some of the previous coaches, this would have been the best big they landed in their last 7 years here. Did you read the whole thread and links? Lots of schools (K-state, Texas AM, Arizona) were on him late. And an untimely injury and a transfer undoubtedly contributed to the 2 star rating. And BTW, at least at the moment, USF is in the same conference we are. They were after another big we stole from them, too. Remember DG?
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A bit disappointed on who else was recruiting him. South Florida and Chattanooga.
He didn't play his junior year. And if you did a bit more research, you'd know Texas A&M, Kansas State, Oklahoma, and Arizona have all been recruiting Durley as well.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1206693
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Big kid
(http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/topicimages/a/aa/aaron_durley.gif)
A bit disappointed on who else was recruiting him. South Florida and Chattanooga. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/75863/aaron-durley
Some of the previous coaches were destroyed here for landing kids that had those type of suitors.
Hilarious! Par for your course - slight the current coaching staff,while trying to exonerate the past regime. You are aware Davante Gardner was recruited by South Florida, right? Seems as though Davante is on his way to a good career. Thank you for posting the above as it truly reflects on your agenda...
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MU will always have a hard time recruiting centers. Mainly because there are few in Wisconsin to get. In the last 50 years or so, Mac and Chones were elite centers at MU. Jerry Homen
was more like it, 6'6" center. Odell Ball. I am sure I am missing someone but not sure worth mentioning from Wisco. Greg Steinsma, I can not think of another center as I believe Butch
was more of a forward. So you can see how hard it is to get one over the years. Even Illinois has not been a real hot bed either. Jerome Whitehead.
Durley will be off the bench in high school so I am sure he will be off the bench at MU for a few years. MU will not need him until his sophomore or junior year so he will have a great deal of
time to improve, maybe 3 years. He might think of redshirting. I only believe in redshirting if it looks like he has the talent to improve and needs the 5th year. They will not need him
next year and they will have 13 players anyway next year.
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He didn't play his junior year. And if you did a bit more research, you'd know Texas A&M, Kansas State, Oklahoma, and Arizona have all been recruiting Durley as well.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1206693
The reference was to those that actually offered a scholarship. South Alabama, Chattanooga, South Florida.
http://wldy-wjbl.com/news/?p=4963
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Aaron-Durley-107284
Recruiting is a nebulous term because most of these kids receive letters and appear in tournaments where schools are looking at the kids. No different than some of the kids others have signed that were recruited by the likes of Arizona, Illinois, and others but never offered by those schools.
He certainly is a huge specimen and you can't teach size.
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The reference was to those that actually offered a scholarship. South Alabama, Chattanooga, South Florida.
Are you a close personal friend of the Durley family? I ask that in all seriousness. Because unless you are, there's no way you can glean what schools actually offered him. Go to Rivals, Scout, ESPN, MaxPreps, Northstar, or Alex Kline and you'll get a different list from each one.
From what your Rivals link says, South Florida and Chattanooga weren't even recruiting him, yet you claim they offered (but conveniently didn't mention that K-State was also interested). Scout lists Marquette as the only school with interest. And all of them, including ESPN, fail to mention South Alabama, where Durley recently visited.
All we ever have to go off of when it comes to this stuff is recruiting reports. And every one of the schools listed in the article I provided is just as substantiated as any one of the schools you provided. So yes, as far as we know, he was also recruited by A&M, K-State (as your link indicates), Oklahoma, and Arizona. And you have no reason nor logical argument to dispute that.
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Are you a close personal friend of the Durley family? I ask that in all seriousness. Because unless you are, there's no way you can glean what schools actually offered him. Go to Rivals, Scout, ESPN, MaxPreps, Northstar, or Alex Kline and you'll get a different list from each one.
From what your Rivals link says, South Florida and Chattanooga weren't even recruiting him, yet you claim they offered (but conveniently didn't mention that K-State was also interested). Scout lists Marquette as the only school with interest. And all of them, including ESPN, fail to mention South Alabama, where Durley recently visited.
All we ever have to go off of when it comes to this stuff is recruiting reports. And every one of the schools listed in the article I provided is just as substantiated as any one of the schools you provided. So yes, as far as we know, he was also recruited by A&M, K-State (as your link indicates), Oklahoma, and Arizona. And you have no reason nor logical argument to dispute that.
+1 Brew. Very few people know who actually offered or the level of interest that both those who did and did not offer had
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Nice try Chicos. K State was closing in too. Plus Buzz has shown the ability to develop Otule and Gardner, two similar under the radar bigs, therefore he gets the benefit of the doubt. But keep trying to stir sh*t up. Sad that everyone has ignored your Cracked Sidewalks posts about realignment so you had to come over here to drop a turd on a kid's commitment thread?
Hoopaloop is not Chicos.
I think his question about who else offered scholarships is valid. I also think Brewcity did a good job of answering the question.
Don't be afraid of critical questions.
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Hoopaloop is not Chicos.
I think his question about who else offered scholarships is valid. I also think Brewcity did a good job of answering the question.
Don't be afraid of critical questions.
I don't see any questions (critical or otherwise) in Hoopaloop's post - only assertions of fact that are evidently incomplete or untrue.
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I don't see any questions (critical or otherwise) in Hoopaloop's post - only assertions of fact that are evidently incomplete or untrue.
You win on punctuation. There were no question marks in his post.
Congratulations?
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Big kid
(http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/topicimages/a/aa/aaron_durley.gif)
A bit disappointed on who else was recruiting him. South Florida and Chattanooga. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/75863/aaron-durley
Some of the previous coaches were destroyed here for landing kids that had those type of suitors.
Disgaree....with the previous coaches were destroyed for these types of recruits statemnet... Previous coaches were destroyed when those said types of recruits stood 5'10 - 6'4.
I think the vast majority of Mu fans is happy with the Pittsburgh/Wisconsin model of bringing in non-top 100 bigs ... 1 a year... and bringing them slowly thru the system. The issue with Tommy Naismith was year after year our recruiting classes were 6'7 and under. No even attempt to develop bigs....but hey why plan long term when u are renting?
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You win on punctuation. There were no question marks in his post.
Congratulations?
Sugar is Chicos!
Blasphemer! Let's get 'em!
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You win on punctuation. There were no question marks in his post.
Congratulations?
Wasn't trying to win on punctuation (or anything else). I took your "asking questions" statement literally, as in seeking information (which Hoopaloop definitely wasn't doing) rather than "questioning" (i.e., criticizing) which upon rereading is clearly what you meant. My apologies.
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MU will always have a hard time recruiting centers. Mainly because there are few in Wisconsin to get. In the last 50 years or so, Mac and Chones were elite centers at MU. Jerry Homen
was more like it, 6'6" center. Odell Ball. I am sure I am missing someone but not sure worth mentioning from Wisco.
The image of the proto-typical 7-foot center from Wisconsin begins and ends with Kurt Portmann.
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The image of the proto-typical 7-foot center from Wisconsin begins and ends with Kurt Portmann.
Dave Mader begs to differ.
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Enos Hendrickson
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The image of the proto-typical 7-foot center from Wisconsin begins and ends with Kurt Portmann.
For me, it is Roman Mueller ...
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For me, it is Roman Mueller ...
Once referred to as "The biggest sleeper since Rip Van Winkle".
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"Burly Durley" will be throwing around his weight with fellow Bend HS alum Otule, Gardner, and Taylor.
Talk about some serious banging in the blocks!!!
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Once referred to as "The biggest sleeper since Rip Van Winkle".
It's a good thing Rick wasn't around to say the same thing about JP Gavinski... the track record for bigs coming out of WDHS ain't all that great.
Incidentally, Wisconsin Dells won the State Championship the year after Ray graduated... that pretty much tells it all.
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Are you a close personal friend of the Durley family? I ask that in all seriousness. Because unless you are, there's no way you can glean what schools actually offered him. Go to Rivals, Scout, ESPN, MaxPreps, Northstar, or Alex Kline and you'll get a different list from each one.
From what your Rivals link says, South Florida and Chattanooga weren't even recruiting him, yet you claim they offered (but conveniently didn't mention that K-State was also interested). Scout lists Marquette as the only school with interest. And all of them, including ESPN, fail to mention South Alabama, where Durley recently visited.
All we ever have to go off of when it comes to this stuff is recruiting reports. And every one of the schools listed in the article I provided is just as substantiated as any one of the schools you provided. So yes, as far as we know, he was also recruited by A&M, K-State (as your link indicates), Oklahoma, and Arizona. And you have no reason nor logical argument to dispute that.
No sir, I am not a family friend. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel writer listed three scholarship offers
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/132668998.html
Another article had a quote from his mother and also listed the same schools.
http://www.examiner.com/marquette-golden-eagles-in-milwaukee/marquette-secures-verbal-commitment-from-aaron-durley
My assumption was the authors would have asked what the schools were and thus published them as they did. It is certainly plausible that they did not do this and merely went off recruiting reports only. That would be unfortunate and rather lazy by the author, but could have happened.
The question seemed fair to me about who else offered a scholarship, but so many posters here are so defensive it makes commenting here rougher than it needs to be. Not picking on you, but there are others here that need a serious hug. The Marquette I remember asked us to think for ourselves and ask questions.
The kid is huge. Must have been something in the batter's box.
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The question seemed fair to me about who else offered a scholarship, but so many posters here are so defensive it makes commenting here rougher than it needs to be. Not picking on you, but there are others here that need a serious hug. The Marquette I remember asked us to think for ourselves and ask questions.
The kid is huge. Must have been something in the batter's box.
First of all, you're trying to do some revisionist history. This is what you first said:
A bit disappointed on who else was recruiting him. South Florida and Chattanooga. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/75863/aaron-durley
Some of the previous coaches were destroyed here for landing kids that had those type of suitors.
This is what you are insinuating you first said:
The reference was to those that actually offered a scholarship. South Alabama, Chattanooga, South Florida.
Do you see the difference? Absolutely nowhere in your original post did you refer to "actually offered a scholarship" and posting the ESPN link in the first post doesn't support that because the only school listed as offering a scholarship there is Marquette.
You have developed a reputation for attacking Buzz and defending Crean. If that's your gig, fine, do what you like. But understand that doing that will build a reputation. Buzz, as our current coach, is seen as pro-Marquette. Crean, as the coach that snuck out Art Modell style, only telling us he was leaving from an Indiana podium, is seen as anti-Marquette. I could care less if either is accurate, the bottom line is that's the perception. This board is pro-Marquette. Do you see where posts like your initial one might come under criticism, especially when you contradict yourself so quickly?
When you always come across as critical (which most of your posts appear to be) people will read in criticism to your other posts whether it's there or not. In this case, your criticism was very thinly veiled. Suffice to say, you wouldn't have bothered to make any statement of the sort if the articles you read had said Texas A&M, Kansas State, and Arizona.
There are dozens of sources. The multiple links we both posted prove that. I asked seriously if you were a friend of the family because I don't think that you can judge the validity of which reports are accurate without that kind of connection. I also pointed out that the articles you posted with no provocation from me included information (K-State) that corresponded with the articles I posted. And I maintain you have no logical cause to dispute any of that.
I still fail to understand why you are trying to draw this line in the sand, why you are trying to change what you originally said from "recruited by" to "offered by". Buzz got a big that is attracting a lot of interest. I consider that a win. Why try to criticize it?
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btw, mcgary was a early offer by us 2 years ago and they hoped he was a high major. Now he is 2 in the country and a lottery pick.
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First of all, you're trying to do some revisionist history. This is what you first said:
This is what you are insinuating you first said:
Do you see the difference? Absolutely nowhere in your original post did you refer to "actually offered a scholarship" and posting the ESPN link in the first post doesn't support that because the only school listed as offering a scholarship there is Marquette.
You have developed a reputation for attacking Buzz and defending Crean. If that's your gig, fine, do what you like. But understand that doing that will build a reputation. Buzz, as our current coach, is seen as pro-Marquette. Crean, as the coach that snuck out Art Modell style, only telling us he was leaving from an Indiana podium, is seen as anti-Marquette. I could care less if either is accurate, the bottom line is that's the perception. This board is pro-Marquette. Do you see where posts like your initial one might come under criticism, especially when you contradict yourself so quickly?
When you always come across as critical (which most of your posts appear to be) people will read in criticism to your other posts whether it's there or not. In this case, your criticism was very thinly veiled. Suffice to say, you wouldn't have bothered to make any statement of the sort if the articles you read had said Texas A&M, Kansas State, and Arizona.
There are dozens of sources. The multiple links we both posted prove that. I asked seriously if you were a friend of the family because I don't think that you can judge the validity of which reports are accurate without that kind of connection. I also pointed out that the articles you posted with no provocation from me included information (K-State) that corresponded with the articles I posted. And I maintain you have no logical cause to dispute any of that.
I still fail to understand why you are trying to draw this line in the sand, why you are trying to change what you originally said from "recruited by" to "offered by". Buzz got a big that is attracting a lot of interest. I consider that a win. Why try to criticize it?
I believe that qualifies as a massive "pwned."
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Hoopaloop is not Chicos.
As the Pudge nickname passed to Ivan Rodriguez upon Carlton Fisk's retirement, so shall the Chicos nickname pass from whomever Chicos is to whomever Hoopaloop is.
Chicos isn't really a person...more a way of being.
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As the Pudge nickname passed to Ivan Rodriguez upon Carlton Fisk's retirement, so shall the Chicos nickname pass from whomever Chicos is to whomever Hoopaloop is.
Chicos isn't really a person...more a way of being.
What I remember Chicos doing and getting banned for is not what Hoopaloop was doing.
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As the Pudge nickname passed to Ivan Rodriguez upon Carlton Fisk's retirement, so shall the Chicos nickname pass from whomever Chicos is to whomever Hoopaloop is.
Chicos isn't really a person...more a way of being.
Good analogy...and true..
What I remember Chicos doing and getting banned for is not what Hoopaloop was doing.
Yes - so long as Hoopaloop doesn't go all combative and disrespectful of the moderators who created and run this site, his continued anti-Marquette/passive aggressive posts will be tolerated as were *most* of Chicos. If you want to get a good sense of Mr. Hoopaloop take 15 minutes and read his post history - his track record speaks for itself.
While a Marquette education may value thinking for one's self, and developing critical thinking skills as Hoopaloop argues - in that same set of skills should be an ability to not see ALL things pessimistically.
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Better be nicer to Hoopaloop, boys, or he'll take his ball and go home. Can Scoop survive another of his boycotts? Wait...
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What I remember Chicos doing and getting banned for is not what Hoopaloop was doing.
I know. I'm just kinda being a jerk.
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As the Pudge nickname passed to Ivan Rodriguez upon Carlton Fisk's retirement, so shall the Chicos nickname pass from whomever Chicos is to whomever Hoopaloop is.
Chicos isn't really a person...more a way of being.
excellent analogy
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As the Pudge nickname passed to Ivan Rodriguez upon Carlton Fisk's retirement, so shall the Chicos nickname pass from whomever Chicos is to whomever Hoopaloop is.
Chicos isn't really a person...more a way of being.
Wow, so the Moderators actually made him stronger by banning him. What do you call an evil version of a martyr?
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Wow, so the Moderators actually made him stronger by banning him. What do you call an evil version of a martyr?
Mini Me?
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Wow, so the Moderators actually made him stronger by banning him. What do you call an evil version of a martyr?
Satan?
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Kaiser Sose?
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First of all, you're trying to do some revisionist history. This is what you first said:
This is what you are insinuating you first said:
Do you see the difference? Absolutely nowhere in your original post did you refer to "actually offered a scholarship" and posting the ESPN link in the first post doesn't support that because the only school listed as offering a scholarship there is Marquette.
I'm 100% certain you will not believe me, but the original intent of my original statement was in reference to who had actually offered a scholarship. Shame on me for saying recruiting. Obviously a nit that you are picking but I left myself open to that with the way I phrased it.
You have developed a reputation for attacking Buzz and defending Crean. If that's your gig, fine, do what you like. But understand that doing that will build a reputation. Buzz, as our current coach, is seen as pro-Marquette. Crean, as the coach that snuck out Art Modell style, only telling us he was leaving from an Indiana podium, is seen as anti-Marquette. I could care less if either is accurate, the bottom line is that's the perception. This board is pro-Marquette. Do you see where posts like your initial one might come under criticism, especially when you contradict yourself so quickly?
I have a total of 81 posts on this message board and have mentioned Tom Crean two times. In fact, I did not mention him at all in this thread but you implied that I did. Maybe I should be picking a nit with you! I said "previous coaches" (PLURAL) because the fact of the matter is that Deane, O'Neil, Crean, Dukiet and Majerus were ripped on by fans (pre Internet and current) about landing players that were offered by schools of marginal pedigree.
Yes, the former coach left, so will Buzz Williams some day. So did Rick Majerus. So did Al McGuire. So did Kevin O'Neill. Coaches leave. Majerus, O'Neill, Crean all left MU with not a whole lot of grace in their departure. But you were the one that singled in on Crean and implied I was defending him or having some pro commentary about him. You are incorrect.
When you always come across as critical (which most of your posts appear to be) people will read in criticism to your other posts whether it's there or not. In this case, your criticism was very thinly veiled. Suffice to say, you wouldn't have bothered to make any statement of the sort if the articles you read had said Texas A&M, Kansas State, and Arizona.
Always? Appears someone has a nit to pick again. Always has a definitional change apparently.
There are dozens of sources. The multiple links we both posted prove that. I asked seriously if you were a friend of the family because I don't think that you can judge the validity of which reports are accurate without that kind of connection. I also pointed out that the articles you posted with no provocation from me included information (K-State) that corresponded with the articles I posted. And I maintain you have no logical cause to dispute any of that.
I have not disputed it. My question is why the Milwaukee Journal writer would not do justice of the recruiters and include the other schools. Same with the Texas writer. It is good to hear other schools of more prominence were recruiting him. Perhaps some even offered a scholarship. This is all great to hear. My "bit of disappointment" has eroded knowing this. My disappointment should shift to the MU beat writer who doesn't dig enough and expects the fans of the team to scour the internet for every article or have a family connection to understand who truly was recruiting and who truly offered the players we are trying to come to MU.
I still fail to understand why you are trying to draw this line in the sand, why you are trying to change what you originally said from "recruited by" to "offered by". Buzz got a big that is attracting a lot of interest. I consider that a win. Why try to criticize it?
If you go back and read what was originally stated. "BIG KID". That was statement one. Then the audacity to say "a bit disappointed". That is hardly a scathing attack, but what I believed to be a statement of opinion based on the factual evidence I had with the articles that I read. As stated yesterday, some people need a hug. One cannot even bring up a reasonable opinion based on the articles that are out there without the knives coming out.
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Good analogy...and true..
Yes - so long as Hoopaloop doesn't go all combative and disrespectful of the moderators who created and run this site, his continued anti-Marquette/passive aggressive posts will be tolerated as were *most* of Chicos. If you want to get a good sense of Mr. Hoopaloop take 15 minutes and read his post history - his track record speaks for itself.
While a Marquette education may value thinking for one's self, and developing critical thinking skills as Hoopaloop argues - in that same set of skills should be an ability to not see ALL things pessimistically.
In reading some of your continued commentary what is striking to me is that despite the banishment of some folks and the volunteer withdrawl others have taken, you and a few others remain at the heart of many of the disputes here.
You and a few others are the common denominator. It's striking because those that were banned or left on their own supposedly were the cause of the issues, yet you (and a few others) continue to be ones at the bottom of the scrum whenever a dust up happens here. Why do you think that is?
Pessimism all the time? My opinion is that MU will finish 3rd in the conference this year. Does that mean I am pessimistic because I didn't pick them 2nd or 1st?
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In reading some of your continued commentary what is striking to me is that despite the banishment of some folks and the volunteer withdrawl others have taken, you and a few others remain at the heart of many of the disputes here.
You and a few others are the common denominator. It's striking because those that were banned or left on their own supposedly were the cause of the issues, yet you (and a few others) continue to be ones at the bottom of the scrum whenever a dust up happens here. Why do you think that is?
Pessimism all the time? My opinion is that MU will finish 3rd in the conference this year. Does that mean I am pessimistic because I didn't pick them 2nd or 1st?
I will always be in a scrum with posers here, that post. And there are FAR FEWER dustups as you call them, now that some of the posers/departed are banned/gone. However, what I can assure is that in any thread that you interject your crap, yes, there will be a dustup.
And really? Just 4 posts referencing Crean for you? Yet another lie. I counted about 12 of 81, and of the remaining 69 - about 50 that lamented Vander Blue, JUCO's, MU's handling of the sex assault allegations, and your absolute willingness to convict from the perspective of guilty until proven innocent. Any potential topic you could latch on to, to crucify/criticize MU you did, and quite actively. Generally, most alumni of a university support their school, give it the benefit of the doubt, and are not so eager to rake it over the coals. Why the axe to grind? Bad experience at MU?
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Kaiser Sose?
+1
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Another thread that degenerates into name calling. What a surprise. ::)