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Title: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Blackhat on September 15, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
"Right now Oregon, Oklahoma, Marquette, Clemson, Minnesota, and Texas A&M are the schools recruiting me the hardest," said Nolan. "At this point I have no yet scheduled any visits.

"I plan on making my decision pretty soon as me and my grandfather have been talking about it a little bit. As soon as we come to a clear understanding on a school that fits that will be when (the choice is made)."
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: LA on September 15, 2011, 09:57:13 PM
No visits scheduled, he is back in Milwaukee this year for school and will make a decision soon.....good sign for MU?
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: GGGG on September 16, 2011, 05:14:19 AM
Remember this is from him. I wonder how serious these schools are, including MU, if visits haven't been scheduled.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: LA on September 16, 2011, 05:19:04 AM
I'm pretty out of the loop when it comes to recruiting. What do you think MU's level of interest is in Nolan right now? Are we really going after him hard?
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on September 16, 2011, 07:09:23 AM
Since MU only has one scholarship left it's first come - first serve.  If Nolan is interested in MU, he should grab the offer!
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: avid1010 on September 16, 2011, 07:18:10 AM
Quote from: msbjim on September 16, 2011, 07:09:23 AM
Since MU only has one scholarship left it's first come - first serve.  If Nolan is interested in MU, he should grab the offer!

Is it really that simple for him?  I often wonder how coaches handle that.  If Buzz would much rather have a different recruit who is giving MU good signals, but wants a little more time, I can't believe MU settles for someone lower on their list who will verbal immediately.  I'm not saying that's the case in this situation, or that it isn't first-come-first-serve in some situations, but I would think the timing game has to play out a lot in recruiting. 
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: We R Final Four on September 16, 2011, 07:20:33 AM
I doubt if this is first come-first served.  Recruiting is a fluid animal with recruits and players heating up and cooling down all the time.  Things happen all the time which change this dynamic constantly.  When there are many more offers to players than there are available schollies, it is not a first come first served situation.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: GGGG on September 16, 2011, 07:55:05 AM
Quote from: LA on September 16, 2011, 05:19:04 AM
I'm pretty out of the loop when it comes to recruiting. What do you think MU's level of interest is in Nolan right now? Are we really going after him hard?


Honestly, Buzz plays it so close to the vest that it is hard to tell.  There are really only a few people who I trust with the "final word" on these types of things - IWB and Mark Miller being two of them.

I just find it interesting that he claims we, and others, are after him hard, but he hasn't scheduled any visits yet.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: bamamarquettefan on September 16, 2011, 08:12:24 AM
He's 6-10, borderline top 100 recruit with 11 offers from pretty good schools according to rivals.  For me, you take him if he wants to come for the "one in hand better than 2 in the bush" theory.

But I'm glad I don't really have to make those decisions.

We've wished we hadn't offered others when jamil became available, and we've wished we kept on one point guard who may have slipped away because we though another was coming this year - leaving us short on this roster.  All tough calls, but my gut would certainly be to commit him I he wants to come.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 16, 2011, 08:23:16 AM
Count me in as preferring to be in the bush vs having one in the hand camp.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on September 16, 2011, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 16, 2011, 08:23:16 AM
Count me in as preferring to be in the bush vs having one in the hand camp.

+1.  preferably a nicely landscaped bush.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: bilsu on September 16, 2011, 09:14:25 AM
I believe(no inside knowledge) that Auguste is Plan A. Nolan not having any visits scheduled yet could mean a lot of things. He could be plan B for a lot of schools. He could be waiting to see who else the other team signs as playing time as a freshmen could be a major factor for him. He could be waiting for other schools to recruit him. Does anybody know, if his grandfather lives in Milwaukee?
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on September 16, 2011, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: msbjim on September 16, 2011, 07:09:23 AM
Since MU only has one scholarship left it's first come - first serve.  If Nolan is interested in MU, he should grab the offer!
remember what happened to Newbill. Not everything is certain in this world.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: NersEllenson on September 16, 2011, 11:00:12 AM
Agree with Bilsu that Auguste is Plan A - no questions asked.  Buzz watched him several times - and the first day coaches were eligible to have contact with recruits this past July. 

I certainly don't doubt that MU has strong interest in Nolan as well - call him Plan A(2).  Hopefully this doesn't end up like the Gabe York/Kris Dunn scenario - where we think we've got Auguste locked up, and it falls through - yet then Nolan doesn't come to MU either.

Recruiting is such a tough world.  All kids want to be top priorities of every school, yet every Top 100 kid has 15+ offers to choose from, and only 1 of 15 schools "wins.," so you have to have so many contingency plans - yet in so doing some recruits may perceive they were Plan B....
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: GGGG on September 16, 2011, 11:07:16 AM
Quote from: Ners on September 16, 2011, 11:00:12 AM
I certainly don't doubt that MU has strong interest in Nolan as well - call him Plan A(2).  Hopefully this doesn't end up like the Gabe York/Kris Dunn scenario - where we think we've got Auguste locked up, and it falls through - yet then Nolan doesn't come to MU either.


That scenario has only been speculated on MUScoop.  We have had no outside verification that this is how it went down.  I could just as easilly speculate that when TJ Taylor committed to transfer, that our interest in Dunn waned.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: BCHoopster on September 16, 2011, 11:11:01 AM
Hey, I am sure it is a matter of who commits first, if Nolan gave a Buzz a commit, would Auguste be here this weekend?  Maybe,
maybe not.  If Nolan wants PT time, he has to beat out Taylor for the 4, same point for Auguste.  There is the opportunity in front of them for either.  It will be a nice weather weekend
so hopefully he will like it here. Up against Florida is not easy, much like York going to AZ.  I would rather fight northern schools. Todd Mayo might be the key to this recruiting since he
played out east.  Deonte Burton might help as well.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: GGGG on September 16, 2011, 11:13:33 AM
He won't have to fight Taylor for PT "for the 4."  The way Buzz runs his offense, they could easilly be on the floor at the same time for extended periods.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: BCHoopster on September 16, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 16, 2011, 11:13:33 AM
He won't have to fight Taylor for PT "for the 4."  The way Buzz runs his offense, they could easilly be on the floor at the same time for extended periods.

Agreed, but Jamil Wilson will start at one spot, so in my mind only one of those kids will start.  Both will be on the court at times, but not alot.
Blue and Ferguson will get some PT at the small forward.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: GGGG on September 16, 2011, 11:27:38 AM
Well, Jamil would start, but you have a nice rotation of Jamil, Juan, Taylor and hopefully Auguste at the forward spots.  They could easilly run three forwards at points too.  Add Burton to that mix the year after....WOW....that is one athletic front line.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: BCHoopster on September 16, 2011, 11:42:17 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 16, 2011, 11:27:38 AM
Well, Jamil would start, but you have a nice rotation of Jamil, Juan, Taylor and hopefully Auguste at the forward spots.  They could easilly run three forwards at points too.  Add Burton to that mix the year after....WOW....that is one athletic front line.

Good forwards in the future, Burton in 2013 will be a nice back-up to Jamil, Juan can play small or even some 2 guard in the future.  The talent level is going up every year. This last touch
of Auguste would really help as he adds length, can not always play small.  Always liked players like Bo, Larry McNeal, Scott Merritt types.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: bilsu on September 16, 2011, 12:35:01 PM
Maybe J. Wilson will be our starting point after Cadougan graduates.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: lab_warrior on September 16, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
Quote from: msbjim on September 16, 2011, 07:09:23 AM
Since MU only has one scholarship left it's first come - first serve. 

No offense, but I reallly hope we don't recruit with this mentality.
Reminds me of the "ultimatum" Larry David gives Cheryl on "Curb Your Enthusiasm".
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Blackhat on September 16, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Count me in for the messy bush.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: humanlung on September 16, 2011, 02:55:44 PM
Stone, say it with me, "Brazillian".
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Dawson Rental on September 16, 2011, 08:15:10 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 16, 2011, 08:23:16 AM
Count me in as preferring to be in the bush vs having one in the hand camp.


As we all would be, if we only had your access to laughing gas.......
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: TedBaxter on September 16, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
I don't know how Phillip Nolan is academically, but just getting transcripts from his 4 high schools (Vincent, prep school in West Virginia, St. Benedict's (NJ) and now Riverside) makes it a little tougher to gauge where he stands. 

I hope for his sake that someone really analyzed correctly what he needs core course wise before he enrolled for classes at Riverside this fall.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Marqus Howard on September 24, 2011, 08:12:03 PM
Mark Miller just tweeted that Nolan is down to Oregon and Clemson.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: GGGG on September 24, 2011, 08:41:13 PM
Well...who knows how much Buzz really was on to him.  I am beginning to think that we might hold this last scholie until spring.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: 4everwarriors on September 24, 2011, 08:46:43 PM
And Auguste didn't have ND in his final 4.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Jay Bee on September 24, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 24, 2011, 08:46:43 PM
And Auguste didn't have ND in his final 4.

Yeah, I hear that.  It's kind of like dinner last weekend that ZFB was telling me about.  You told him that you were dating Bill and Troy, but then you show up with Steven as your dinner date.  Just never know.

As usual when it comes to fine dining, ZFB brought Raul because he always picks up the bill. 

Maybe Marquette will be Nolan's Steven.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: mr.MUskie on September 24, 2011, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 24, 2011, 08:46:43 PM
And Auguste didn't have ND in his final 4.


"The next day coach (Anthony) Solomon  Buzz called me," Auguste Nolan said, "and he was like 'Zach Phillip, listen, I'm can't let you drop Notre Dame Marquette. We need you, we want you and this is the place you've gotta be.' He said, 'I'm gonna prove it to you.' I was like, 'OK, coach.' At first I was shocked. I was like, 'OK, a school I told no to is still coming at me.' It just meant a lot."
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: brewcity77 on September 25, 2011, 08:41:25 AM
Can't say this surprises me. Unless he goes prep school, I don't see us getting back in on Nolan. I just don't think he developed as well as many may have hoped. Seems like ever since he first cracked the top-100 and we were the first school to offer him, his game hasn't really improved. He's a good athlete, and I really think could develop into a good college player, but I think that Nolan will really start to show up as a junior and senior, and I believe Buzz wants someone who can make an impact sooner than that.

Best of luck to him. My money's on Clemson.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: wadesworld on September 25, 2011, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on September 25, 2011, 08:41:25 AM
Can't say this surprises me. Unless he goes prep school, I don't see us getting back in on Nolan. I just don't think he developed as well as many may have hoped. Seems like ever since he first cracked the top-100 and we were the first school to offer him, his game hasn't really improved. He's a good athlete, and I really think could develop into a good college player, but I think that Nolan will really start to show up as a junior and senior, and I believe Buzz wants someone who can make an impact sooner than that.

Best of luck to him. My money's on Clemson.

My guess is if he called Buzz this second and said he wanted to commit, Buzz would be extremely happy to accept him.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: GGGG on September 25, 2011, 09:48:09 AM
Again who knows?  But the fact that he's a local guy and no visits have occurred seems to suggest a lack of interest on MUs part. He hasn't been linked with us for awhile outside of talk from the nolan camp.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Nukem2 on September 25, 2011, 12:38:58 PM
With all of his school jumping, really have to wonder if he'll have enough qualifying course credits to enter a school as a 2012 frosh.  May well need a 5th year prep school year to attain those credits?  Otherwise he seems to definitely be a  long, talented (though slight at this time ) athlete.  Odd that MU not more in on things especially as he has come back to Milwaukee. 
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: MuMark on September 27, 2011, 03:59:15 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/MarquetteHoops/status/118778955548475392
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Bieberhole69 on September 27, 2011, 04:57:56 PM
I'm glad to see we're still interested. At this point I think he'd be a pretty solid signing, Taylor and Nolan would be nice additions down low.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: Marqus Howard on September 27, 2011, 10:07:06 PM
I thought Buzz was at Whitefish Bay to see Diamond Stone and Duane Wilson?
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: GGGG on September 27, 2011, 11:56:40 PM
The schools are exactly 4.3 miles apart.  I think he might be able to handle both.
Title: Re: Update on Phillip Nolan
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on September 28, 2011, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: Bieberhole69 on September 27, 2011, 04:57:56 PM
I'm glad to see we're still interested. At this point I think he'd be a pretty solid signing, Taylor and Nolan would be nice additions down low.
+1.
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