Milwaukee's Deonte Burton, a class of 2013 prospect who attends Brewster Academy in New Hampshire, will take an unofficial visit to Marquette early next week.
Burton is ranked No. 44 nationally in 2013 by Scout.com.
Would love to see him commit on the visit.
There's a 50-50 chance.
But so many things can happen, who really knows?
Need this kid to go with a 4. Physical presences.
Come on home Deonte!
You know how I have said that if Bo Ryan could build the protypical player for his offense that it would be Sam Dekker?
Well, if Buzz could build a prototypical guard for what he wants to do, it would be Deonte Burton. It would be wonderful if we could land him.
He seems like a quicker, better version of Jeronne Maymon. You know, one that can jump. His shot is the only thing that worries me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYLv8v0HAg
Really glad to hear this news. Definitely a good sign, here's hoping Burton is our first 2013 commit.
After watcing the video, it looks like a kid that is bigger and stronger then who he is playing against in those
videos, is he an undersized 3 or a 2? People who have seen him play, does he fit into the college game or his
he like Maymon who really has no position in college?
He is physically ready to compete in the Big East right now. He's an absolute specimen.
His skills need work -- especially ball handling and perimeter shooting.
I would envision him being a wing player at the next level. Two-guard, small-forward type.
Maymon was a speciman as well. Burtons shot looks like a set shot, does he have a jumper at all? The college
game for a 2 or a 3 nowadays is about shooting the 3. Vander is a great athletic type, but not sure if he has
the heart or skill to work on his shot. Does Burton? This is why I really like Taylors game as he has a great looking
shot? Mark, what do you think?
Quote from: BCHoopster on August 25, 2011, 08:30:36 PM
Maymon was a speciman as well. Burtons shot looks like a set shot, does he have a jumper at all? The college
game for a 2 or a 3 nowadays is about shooting the 3. Vander is a great athletic type, but not sure if he has
the heart or skill to work on his shot. Does Burton? This is why I really like Taylors game as he has a great looking
shot? Mark, what do you think?
I feel like Maymon was just big. Not to say he wasn't strong, but I'd hardly call him a specimen. Especially looking back on the competition he had. Also we quickly realized Maymon didn't have nearly as much athleticism or jumping ability as some thought. Not many guys his height or weight in Wisconsin HS ball.
Burton is definitely quicker/more athletic than Maymon. Totally different players. Maymon was more crafty and productive around the basket, while Burton is better attacking the rim and finishing above the rim. Maymon could dunk, but it was a bit of a chore.
Burton has two years before he steps foot on a college campus. He's attending one of the best prep schools in America. It's up to him to develop his skills.
I'm most excited by his potential to guard and rebound, especially rebound. He seems supremely athletic, to the point of being able to guard a BE 2 or 3.
As Mark said, with most of these kids the skills need refinement. Can he do it? I sure hope so.
Db is quite the specimen he seems to hae a decent shot obviously he needs 2 make it more consistent, but he has anice handle and great size. I recently coached against him in a summer showcae about 2 weeks back here is recent footage of him 4rm this past summr as well as the showcase. You will know him in the showcase footage he has sum pink shoes on in most clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjWJeNA5HLc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skuP-EXOA-w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-9NciP3yLs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Getting Burton this early would be awesome.
Maymon was strong, but I'm not sure I'd call him really athletic. He didn't exactly play above the rim.
Quote from: Litehouse on August 25, 2011, 09:18:01 PM
Getting Burton this early would be awesome.
Maymon was strong, but I'm not sure I'd call him really athletic. He didn't exactly play above the rim.
Yeah, why sugar coat it, mayman is and was awful.
Watching the way he operates around the hoop reminds me a bit of Jeff Adrien.
Very intriguing prospect.
Quote from: russelliron11 on August 25, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
Db is quite the specimen he seems to hae a decent shot obviously he needs 2 make it more consistent, but he has anice handle and great size. I recently coached against him in a summer showcae about 2 weeks back here is recent footage of him 4rm this past summr as well as the showcase. You will know him in the showcase footage he has sum pink shoes on in most clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjWJeNA5HLc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skuP-EXOA-w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-9NciP3yLs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Was that Vander playing in some of the clips?
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on August 25, 2011, 10:49:51 PM
Was that Vander playing in some of the clips?
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on August 25, 2011, 10:49:51 PM
Was that Vander playing in some of the clips?
Nope but jamil wilson can b seen windmilling a few times on camera
He's got a little of Augmon, Zach Randolph, and Sam Perkins to his game.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on August 25, 2011, 10:19:56 PM
Yeah, why sugar coat it, mayman is and was awful.
I wonder if DB's dad is a D bag like J May's dad?
Quote from: russelliron11 on August 25, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
Db is quite the specimen he seems to hae a decent shot obviously he needs 2 make it more consistent, but he has anice handle and great size. I recently coached against him in a summer showcae about 2 weeks back here is recent footage of him 4rm this past summr as well as the showcase. You will know him in the showcase footage he has sum pink shoes on in most clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjWJeNA5HLc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skuP-EXOA-w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-9NciP3yLs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
who is the kid in the MU shorts? is that Burton?
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 07:42:51 AM
I wonder if DB's dad is a D bag like J May?
Comments like this really are in poor taste. Why make such a crappy post? You may have thought it to be a cute and clever comment. It wasn't. >:(
Quote from: jhags15 on August 26, 2011, 11:02:16 AM
who is the kid in the MU shorts? is that Burton?
No. I don't recall who it is or where the thread was, but someone posted the name of the kid. I believe he is going Juco (the kid in the MU gold shorts).
Quote from: MUMac on August 26, 2011, 11:04:24 AM
Comments like this really are in poor taste. Why make such a crappy post? You may have thought it to be a cute and clever comment. It wasn't. >:(
Easy there Mac. I made a statement. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I'll try to take your feelings into consideration next time I post Why did I make a "crappy" post? Because that is my opinion of a man. Either let the big boys talk and deal with it or not.
I bet we're already on him, whoever he is. Looked to be a PG.
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 11:27:24 AM
Easy there Mac. I made a statement.
Actually you asked a question...and a pretty dumb one at that.
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 11:27:24 AM
Easy there Mac. I made a statement. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I'll try to take your feelings into consideration next time I post Why did I make a "crappy" post? Because that is my opinion of a man. Either let the big boys talk and deal with it or not.
Which man is it your opinion of? Mr. Maymon or Mr. Burton? You painted both with the same color by the stupid comment (which many outside of yourself realize it was stupid).
Your ignorant post did not hurt my feelings. You showed, and continue to, your lack of tact, understanding and more.
I suggest you let this subject die. You may want to remember and heed the advice of Abraham Lincoln ... "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Quote from: MUMac on August 26, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
Which man is it your opinion of? Mr. Maymon or Mr. Burton? You painted both with the same color by the stupid comment (which many outside of yourself realize it was stupid).
Your ignorant post did not hurt my feelings. You showed, and continue to, your lack of tact, understanding and more.
I suggest you let this subject die. You may want to remember and heed the advice of Abraham Lincoln ... "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
This, kids, is why you don't argue with adults.
You'll get destroyed.
Quote from: MUMac on August 26, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
I suggest you let this subject die. You may want to remember and heed the advice of Abraham Lincoln ... "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
I do not know Mr. Burton. It is my hopes that he is not like Mr. Maymon. Is it your wish that Mr. Burton barge into a practice, disrupt it, and pull his son off the team, embarising himself, the team, and most of all his son?
And keep your advice to yourself old man, I could care less.
"If all the fools in this world should die, lordly God how lonely I should be."
-Mark Twain
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
I do not know Mr. Burton. It is my hopes that he is not like Mr. Maymon. Is it your wish that Mr. Burton barge into a practice, disrupt it, and pull his son off the team, embarising himself, the team, and most of all his son?
And keep your advice to yourself old man, I could care less.
"If all the fools in this world should die, lordly God how lonely I should be."
-Mark Twain
Sweet.
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
I do not know Mr. Burton. It is my hopes that he is not like Mr. Maymon. Is it your wish that Mr. Burton barge into a practice, disrupt it, and pull his son off the team, embarising himself, the team, and most of all his son?
And keep your advice to yourself old man, I could care less.
"If all the fools in this world should die, lordly God how lonely I should be."
-Mark Twain
Mark Twain also said "It's what you learn AFTER you know it all that counts"
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
I do not know Mr. Burton. It is my hopes that he is not like Mr. Maymon. Is it your wish that Mr. Burton barge into a practice, disrupt it, and pull his son off the team, embarising himself, the team, and most of all his son?
And keep your advice to yourself old man, I could care less.
"If all the fools in this world should die, lordly God how lonely I should be."
-Mark Twain
Why in the world would you even think Mr. Burton would be anything like Mr. Maymon? If you do not know him, then why even bring up the possibility? Are you asking the same thing of Mr. Taylor? Mr. Ferguson? The other Mr. Taylor? Mr. Anderson? Mr. Wilson? Mr. Thomas? Mr. Mayo? I think it's a little ridiculous to even consider the idea that his parents will be anything close to what Mr. Maymon is. There are a lot of control freak, crazy parents who think their sons should be handed the world to them out there, but Mr. Maymon went above and beyond what even those parents would imagine doing.
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 01:12:58 PM
And keep your advice to yourself old man, I could care less.
Ummmm...is someone going to tell him? Or are we just going to let this one go? I think maybe he's suffered enough.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 26, 2011, 02:01:01 PM
Why in the world would you even think Mr. Burton would be anything like Mr. Maymon?
I love people who don't readan entire thread. I said I hope he's not like him. People were comparing the two young men, I said that I hope their fathers aren't alike. I'm hoping an incident like that doesn't happen again, thats why I said that.
Also, why is it ok to to belittle a college kid becasue of his athletic ability and it be ok, yet I can;t make a quip about his fool of a father?
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 02:23:53 PM
I said I hope he's not like him. People were comparing the two young men, I said that I hope their fathers aren't alike. I'm hoping an incident like that doesn't happen again, thats why I said that.
Technically you said
Quote
I wonder if DB's dad is a D bag like J May?
If you would have written what you did in the more recent post I don't think you would have gotten any reaction from the folks here?
Until things open up basketball -wise, I think the mods should have a link to the SI swimsuit site or something. getting too hectic here
sportsillustrated.cnn.com/swimsuit/
I don't want to see anyone post on this thread for at least 15min
Time is up. Game on.
Quote from: MU B2002 on August 26, 2011, 03:12:14 PM
Technically you said
If you would have written what you did in the more recent post I don't think you would have gotten any reaction from the folks here?
Bingo. BRMU23 admits he doesn't know Mr. Burton. Why, then, make such a pitiful post. There was absolutely NO need to ask such a question of the father of a kid MU is recruitng hard and really wants to commit. And then to continue to defend it.
Well, if nothing else, we have learned how little depth BRMU23 has. ::)
Whole lotta dork up in this thread.
Sorry Deonte we'll try to rep MU better in the future.
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 04:10:27 PM
Time is up. Game on.
You're a douche. Water is wet.
Quote from: BRMU23 on August 26, 2011, 04:10:27 PM
Time is up. Game on.
Give it up already, it's going to be a shame when you have to change your screen name.
We're going to get Burton.... book it. ;D
Quote from: esotericmindguy on August 25, 2011, 10:19:56 PM
Yeah, why sugar coat it, mayman is and was awful.
Why would MU waste resources recruiting an "awful" prospect?
Quote from: T.V. Diener 34 on August 27, 2011, 03:21:47 PM
We're going to get Burton.... book it. ;D
Yeah, this. An MU uni would look really nice on this guy.
Quote from: lab_warrior on August 27, 2011, 07:09:49 PM
Yeah, this. An MU uni would look really nice on this guy.
I have a good feeling about this visit. Would love to see him commit while on campus.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on August 27, 2011, 04:19:55 PM
Why would MU waste resources recruiting an "awful" prospect?
Not sure.....ask the coaching staff.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on August 28, 2011, 05:59:24 PM
Not sure.....ask the coaching staff.
Maymon got awful advice from his father, and I have no idea what he was like himself, but to say he was an awful prospect is ridiculous. If Buzz is able to get him to buy into the team and if he does what Buzz tells him he needs to do to get better he's playing big minutes for us.
Quote from: avid1010 on August 28, 2011, 06:26:35 PM
Maymon got awful advice from his father, and I have no idea what he was like himself, but to say he was an awful prospect is ridiculous. If Buzz is able to get him to buy into the team and if he does what Buzz tells him he needs to do to get better he's playing big minutes for us.
This exactly.
Quote from: avid1010 on August 28, 2011, 06:26:35 PM
Maymon got awful advice from his father, and I have no idea what he was like himself, but to say he was an awful prospect is ridiculous. If Buzz is able to get him to buy into the team and if he does what Buzz tells him he needs to do to get better he's playing big minutes for us.
I agree, but would add that everything I had heard about JMay from those I trust who knew him in High School, is that he was a good kid. Maybe listenned to the wrong person a bit too much. Sad how it has turned out for him.
Wasn't there speculation that Deonte was going to committ as part of his visit? Any word?
If he's here today, we sure can't blame the weather if the visit isn't a great one. Man, it's gorgeous today.
seeing how the kid is from Milwaukee, I dont think the weather on any particular day will have any affect on his decision.
Quote from: muhoops1 on August 29, 2011, 12:17:53 PM
Wasn't there speculation that Deonte was going to committ as part of his visit? Any word?
No, there was a comment from Mark Miller that there was a chance, but Mark never said it was a definite.
Quote from: TedBaxter on August 29, 2011, 02:26:28 PM
No, there was a comment from Mark Miller that there was a chance, but Mark never said it was a definite.
Mark tweeted on August 26th that Deonte will likely decide in the fall.
If he was on campus today he had a special guest. Wade walked out of the Annex earlier today. Wonder what he was there for...
Quote from: wadesworld on August 29, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
If he was on campus today he had a special guest. Wade walked out of the Annex earlier today. Wonder what he was there for...
He's there to present the Boys and Girls Club scholarships.
He was bowling at the Annex
http://www.jsonline.com/multimedia/photos/128619748.html#id_55492588
Nice MU bowling shirts. Are those available anywhere?
Update from Twitter:
Quote from: Mark MillerDeonte Burton of Milwaukee and Brewster Academy plans to take an unofficial visit to Marquette on Wednesday.
Here's hoping for an early commit!
I second that motion!
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 30, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
Update from Twitter:
Here's hoping for an early commit!
Any news/sighting on this front?
Quote from: LAZER on August 31, 2011, 03:08:59 PM
Any news/sighting on this front?
Scrounging through Twitter and not found anything yet...if it comes, I'm sure either I or someone else will post it!
Should be soon if there is news. I'm assuming he had school and was heading over after.
He Goes to Prep School on the East Coast. Probably starts after Labor day.
Per Twitter:
Quote from: Mark MillerNo commitment, but a very positive visit for Milwaukee native and Brewster Academy wing Deonte Burton (2013) at Marquette today.
D'oh! Here's hoping he decides before too long...definitely say we're the favorite right now.
Why commit, there is tremendous amount of time between now and then. 2 school years away, MU
might find 2 better players by then.
Semi-Cryptic messages from him on Twitter... His interest in Milwaukee is telling! Look at his messages from today and last night.
http://twitter.com/#!/DeeBurton6
Smart people don't make rash decisions...but it certainly seems like he is a big MU lean!!
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 31, 2011, 07:12:55 PM
Per Twitter:
D'oh! Here's hoping he decides before too long...definitely say we're the favorite right now.
I remember when Kris Dunn said he really wanted to go to Marquette. And that was only six months ago.
crap can happen at any time in this foolish business.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on August 31, 2011, 09:10:00 PM
I remember when Kris Dunn said he really wanted to go to Marquette. And that was only six months ago.
crap can happen at any time in this foolish business.
Lanche - my kids think I'm the all time gloom and doomer when it comes to Marquette basketball, but you make me look like a Pollyanna.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on August 31, 2011, 08:34:00 PM
Semi-Cryptic messages from him on Twitter... His interest in Milwaukee is telling! Look at his messages from today and last night.
http://twitter.com/#!/DeeBurton6
I cant read twitter. I cringe at the grammar and wonder how all bball/fball athletes graduate. Yes, I know its just twitter, but....c'mon.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on August 31, 2011, 08:34:00 PM
Semi-Cryptic messages from him on Twitter... His interest in Milwaukee is telling! Look at his messages from today and last night.
http://twitter.com/#!/DeeBurton6
For those who can't see the tweets:
"I'm change Milwaukee just wait and see!"
"When u hear Milwaukee you gone think of me!"
I think he's a hometown boy, but no direct mention of MU.
Quote from: BCHoopster on August 31, 2011, 08:30:28 PM
Why commit, there is tremendous amount of time between now and then. 2 school years away, MU
might find 2 better players by then.
1 in hand better than 2 in the Bush, and doubt we would find 2 players higher than his #28 ranking in Rivals, though possible we could find two better than his Scout rating, but I doubt by much.
I believe we will need some early commits to get recruits as high as him, so I'm still hoping for a commit soon.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on September 01, 2011, 12:03:01 AM
For those who can't see the tweets:
"I'm change Milwaukee just wait and see!"
"When u hear Milwaukee you gone think of me!"
I think he's a hometown boy, but no direct mention of MU.
Or this one:
"Every time I get it the tea taste better then the one I has!!"
See, he is specifically talking about Buzz! ;D
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on September 01, 2011, 12:47:34 AM
1 in hand better than 2 in the Bush, and doubt we would find 2 players higher than his #28 ranking in Rivals, though possible we could find two better than his Scout rating, but I doubt by much.
I believe we will need some early commits to get recruits as high as him, so I'm still hoping for a commit soon.
We are not going to find two better than him. He would fit what Buzz wants to do perfectly.
After watching him play, what does he play? Power forward, plays like one, to small, small forward
not a great shot, 2 guard, questionable, can he dunk, that is for sure, great athleticism, has that. In 2 years you
have Gardner, Wilson, Taylor or Anderson, Blue or Mayo and not sure about the point. If he is that
good where does he fit? If he is that big a game changer where does he play right away? The point guard
in 2 years is really a major need.
He is a Big East Small forward, which is basically a wing. He has 2 years of High school left to work on his outside shot.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 01, 2011, 07:47:40 AMWe are not going to find two better than him. He would fit what Buzz wants to do perfectly.
Agreed. Honestly, if Burton can develop a mid-range jumper in the next two years, his athletic ability could have him in the top-20 by the time he gets to college. He'd be a freshman when Blue is a senior and Mayo is a junior. He'd be perfectly positioned to be a sub as a freshman and take off as a sophomore.
Plus at his age he might not be done growing.
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 01, 2011, 08:14:31 AM
After watching him play, what does he play? Power forward, plays like one, to small, small forward
not a great shot, 2 guard, questionable, can he dunk, that is for sure, great athleticism, has that. In 2 years you
have Gardner, Wilson, Taylor or Anderson, Blue or Mayo and not sure about the point. If he is that
good where does he fit? If he is that big a game changer where does he play right away? The point guard
in 2 years is really a major need.
He is about to be a junior in high school. Seriously, he has plenty of time to work on certain aspects of his game. At this point in their careers, you could nitpick any high school player.
I like this kid's shot blocking ability. To have a 2/3 type wing be able to get up and down the court and get a hand in the face and on the ball of shots is a great thing and not typically something that can be taught too easily.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 01, 2011, 08:59:20 AM
He is about to be a junior in high school. Seriously, he has plenty of time to work on certain aspects of his game. At this point in their careers, you could nitpick any high school player.
No question about that. When I first saw Jerone Maymon as a junior and Vander Blue as a junior, I said Wow what talented players are these kids. Nice
to have them at MU. Well JM did not pan out and Vander, not sure about. Looked better as a junior in high school then he does right now. So in saying
that, lets see what happpens to Burton. I like players that already have a true position, particularly power players, it is not so easy to go to the basket
when you are undersized in the Big East. The kid definitely right now has tons of talent, does he have the heart, that inner drive.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on August 31, 2011, 09:10:00 PM
I remember when Kris Dunn said he really wanted to go to Marquette. And that was only six months ago.
crap can happen at any time in this foolish business.
Numerous things i have read have said we did not really pursue Dunn, additionally i think everything i read stated we never offered the kid.
Some people seem to be all disappointed we did not get Dunn who has a 95 rating at ESPN, they seem to forget that a few months ago we got a verbal from PG TJ TAylor who is a 94 ranking.
It seems between JR., Derrick, and TJ, buzz feels he is all set at the PG for this recruiting class.
So can you "lose" something you apparently never wanted??
We have a top 50, maybe top 30 recruit posting positive things about Milwaukee after a visit to Marquette and people are criticizing his grammar and then complaining he might not be playing the right position? Good lord people.
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 01, 2011, 09:20:30 AM
No question about that. When I first saw Jerone Maymon as a junior and Vander Blue as a junior, I said Wow what talented players are these kids. Nice
to have them at MU. Well JM did not pan out and Vander, not sure about. Looked better as a junior in high school then he does right now. So in saying
that, lets see what happpens to Burton. I like players that already have a true position, particularly power players, it is not so easy to go to the basket
when you are undersized in the Big East. The kid definitely right now has tons of talent, does he have the heart, that inner drive.
I suppose it depends on how you define "panned out" -- to me, that means ending your eligibility at MU at a level at or better than what was initially expected. By that measure, I looked at recruiting at MU over the past ten years:
# of 4-stars recruited: 10
# that panned out: 5 - Diener, Dominic, Jerel, Wes, Lazar
Who didn't: 3 - Mason, Maymon, Williams
Still working: 2 - Junior, Jamail
So somewhere between 50-70% of MU's four-stars have panned out. At least 30% haven't. I'm no recruiting guru, but I'd say that even the low end of that range is pretty darn good. Additionally:
# of 3-stars recruited: 19
# of 3-stars that played (or most likely will play) in the NBA: 4 -- Novak, DJO, Crowder, & Gardner (someone else called that last one, not me).
And I would be remiss if I didn't mention the "nobodies" MU recruited who ended up going in the 1st round: JFB & some guy who goes by the name of D-Wade.
Moral of the story: Nobody knows who is going to be good, who is going to be great, and who is going to fizzle. Recruit rankings are a good guideline, but they're not foolproof. If you have a recruit that you believe fits your system and he's ready to commit, you sign him... regardless of his "score" or "rank."
Or if you want to focus on rankings, then the only way you pass on Deonte is if you have pending verbals from a couple of five-stars on the way.
This video shows a few pull-ups which look fairly smooth. Definitely not a catch and shoot guy, but neither was DWade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOuZSyVsO0&feature=share
Quote from: Benny B on September 01, 2011, 10:03:07 AM# of 3-stars recruited: 19
# of 3-stars that played (or most likely will play) in the NBA: 4 -- Novak, DJO, Crowder, & Gardner (someone else called that last one, not me).
And I would be remiss if I didn't mention the "nobodies" MU recruited who ended up going in the 1st round: JFB & some guy who goes by the name of D-Wade.
Just a couple notes...
Novak was a 4-star and top-100 prospect: http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=10264
I'm also pretty sure Wade was a 3-star, but overlooked by most because he was Prop 48.
Don't get me wrong, we've done a great job of getting guys to the league, but most of them were pretty well regarded coming into Marquette.
Quote from: dw3dw3dw3 on September 01, 2011, 10:09:43 AM
This video shows a few pull-ups which look fairly smooth. Definitely not a catch and shoot guy, but neither was DWade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOuZSyVsO0&feature=share
I really don't see much in terms of comparisons between Burton and Maymon coming out of high school, besides being lefty and ranked pretty closely in the recruiting rankings (Burton is somewhat higher I believe). Burton is a much, much more explosive athlete than Maymon was (and still is). Maymon overpowered people down low for the most part and just had a nice touch down low. He never really finished above the rim. Burton is constantly finishing above the rim with a ton of explosiveness. I know hindsight is always 20/20 and it's easy to now say Maymon was just bigger and stronger in high school but didn't have the athleticism to get it done at the next level (which who knows, maybe he still will get it done), but they play pretty different games than each other. I'm also assuming that Burton plays better competition at Brewester Academy than Maymon did at Madison Memorial. I don't know anything about Brewester, but I would assume with it being a prep school that they play much tougher competition than the WIAA has to offer.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 01, 2011, 12:02:04 PM
I don't know anything about Brewster, but I would assume with it being a prep school that they play much tougher competition than the WIAA has to offer.
Yes, the teams they play in the NEPSAC (Northeast Prep School Athletic Conference) have better talent than most high school teams. I forget the actual number, but Brewster alone had at least 7 or 8 high major players on it's roster last year, including signees at Kansas, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Villanova and St. John's and underclassman Deonte Burton and Mitch McGary.
Notre Dame Prep, Todd Mayo's school, is not in that conference, although they typically play games against Brewster, New Hampton and others and I think that school had 8 or 9 D1 signees last year.
Quote from: TedBaxter on September 01, 2011, 12:17:56 PM
Yes, the teams they play in the NEPSAC (Northeast Prep School Athletic Conference) have better talent than most high school teams. I forget the actual number, but Brewster alone had at least 7 or 8 high major players on it's roster last year, including signees at Kansas, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Villanova and St. John's and underclassman Deonte Burton and Mitch McGary.
Notre Dame Prep, Todd Mayo's school, is not in that conference, although they typically play games against Brewster, New Hampton and others and I think that school had 8 or 9 D1 signees last year.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like a ridiculously stacked team. I would imagine each of those players improve a ton just in practice. Did not know Burton and McGary were on the same team. It would be nice if we could get Burton to commit early and then reignite McGary's interest in us.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 01, 2011, 12:02:04 PM
I really don't see much in terms of comparisons between Burton and Maymon coming out of high school, besides being lefty and ranked pretty closely in the recruiting rankings (Burton is somewhat higher I believe). Burton is a much, much more explosive athlete than Maymon was (and still is). Maymon overpowered people down low for the most part and just had a nice touch down low. He never really finished above the rim. Burton is constantly finishing above the rim with a ton of explosiveness. I know hindsight is always 20/20 and it's easy to now say Maymon was just bigger and stronger in high school but didn't have the athleticism to get it done at the next level (which who knows, maybe he still will get it done), but they play pretty different games than each other. I'm also assuming that Burton plays better competition at Brewester Academy than Maymon did at Madison Memorial. I don't know anything about Brewester, but I would assume with it being a prep school that they play much tougher competition than the WIAA has to offer.
Not to get off topic, but am I the only one who still thinks Maymon could be a good college player?
I know his game isn't explosive, but I thought it was pretty well rounded, and he has good size/strength for a college ballplayer.
I think it comes down to if he puts in the time and effort to get it done.
If you compare him to your profile pic, I'd agree that he has a chance to be better. Does he have 2 or 3 years left? He might not get recruited over now that Pearl is gone, so that will help his cause. If he can't cut it this year, he should get down in the Horizon as soon as possible.
Quote from: 2002MUalum on September 01, 2011, 03:08:33 PM
I think it comes down to if he puts in the time and effort to get it done.
That is a big "if"...
When I saw Maymon play his last game in a MU uniform in Madison, I thought he played very well defensively. He was matched against Leuer and did a very good job. Offensively his game needed some work.
I mean, isn't he really just an earlier version of Davante??? A little better defensively...a little worse offensively?
JMay in the mix for a starting job...
http://www.thesportsbank.net/college-bball/64-tennessee-volunteers-college-basketball-111-in-111/
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 01, 2011, 03:39:40 PM
JMay in the mix for a starting job...
http://www.thesportsbank.net/college-bball/64-tennessee-volunteers-college-basketball-111-in-111/
I hope JMay puts the old man aside and works his tail off to get the starting spot.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 01, 2011, 03:39:40 PM
JMay in the mix for a starting job...
http://www.thesportsbank.net/college-bball/64-tennessee-volunteers-college-basketball-111-in-111/
I didn't read the article... I have to assume is about him being the "starting" marketing intern at the local grocery outfit, no?
Listed as a forward - I thought he was a SG???
"He has a strong build but is more of a finesse player who prefers playing out on the perimeter. His work ethic and motivation has also been questioned. If he can finally put it all together, it will give Tennessee a much needed boost in their frontcourt."
Perimeter...frontcourt... Therein lies the problem...
Quote from: 2002MUalum on September 01, 2011, 03:08:33 PM
Not to get off topic, but am I the only one who still thinks Maymon could be a good college player?
Yes.
:)
Just saw Burton get off the bus at 12th and Wisconsin and heading toward the Al.
again?
Quote from: MU7703 on September 01, 2011, 05:22:53 PM
Just saw Burton get off the bus at 12th and Wisconsin and heading toward the Al.
I could be wrong. But I nearly walked into him and did a double take. Pretty sure.
Quote from: 2002MUalum on September 01, 2011, 03:08:33 PM
Not to get off topic, but am I the only one who still thinks Maymon could be a good college player?
No. His Dad thinks he'll be super.
I guess next time I'll snatch a hair from his head so I can check his DNA against my current database of MU basketball recruits.
Wow, that would be great if he is back. Two trips pretty close together, heh?
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on September 01, 2011, 09:55:18 PM
Wow, that would be great if he is back. Two trips pretty close together, heh?
Could have simply been a deal where Deonte came down to campus to play some ball before he went back to Brewster and I agree that it doesn't hurt MU's chances.
Don't get excited. He just forgot his jock.
Think chances are extremely high we land him in near future. Heard promising news earlier today.
Well.....what is it that you heard? Great visit--will be signing soon?
I heard great visit and will announce in early Fall. Looks very good!!
Quote from: Goose on September 02, 2011, 06:29:53 PM
I heard great visit and will announce in early Fall. Looks very good!!
Late summer, early fall.
Quote from: MU7703 on September 01, 2011, 05:22:53 PM
Just saw Burton get off the bus at 12th and Wisconsin and heading toward the Al.
Burton just got on the bus
Quote from: Goose on September 02, 2011, 06:29:53 PM
I heard great visit and will announce in early Fall. Looks very good!!
I hope for your sake that your financial adviser isn't the one giving you MU recruiting news.