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Title: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: DJO's Pump Fake on June 23, 2011, 08:25:12 AM
Let's put all the stupid talk to rest and focus on Jimmy's Draft Night.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/124392774.html
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on June 23, 2011, 08:44:32 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 06, 2011, 10:00:05 PM
I love Jimmy Butler as much as the next guy, but if he gets drafted I'll eat my shoe.

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 15, 2011, 12:56:58 PM
I believe I still have a shoe to eat if Jimmy gets drafted.

Can we get a live feed on this?
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: nyg on June 23, 2011, 09:12:45 AM
I'll bite.  How about a prediction thread in this.

I say #33 to Detroit.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: DJO's Pump Fake on June 23, 2011, 09:19:41 AM
I have been thinking number 31 to Miami all week.

They are a team in need of a multiple position defender and guy who can come in and know his role.

Jimmy would fit well on that team.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: mosarsour on June 23, 2011, 09:53:09 AM
I'm honestly thinking that he's not gonna get past the Celtics at #25.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: bobnoxious on June 23, 2011, 09:54:20 AM
He might get past Boston but I don't see him getting past the bulls
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: NavinRJohnson on June 23, 2011, 10:00:44 AM
Agree with the last two, put me down as saying he'll go in the first round, most likely to either Chicago (with two late picks), or Boston (pending any significant trades of course). Just seems to be too much good feeling surrounding him, not unlike Hayward last year. At that point in the draft, personality, work ethic, etc., can make a huge impact. After the past few years, having "Marquette" after your name is gonna move you up, not down.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: drewm88 on June 23, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
In Chad Ford's latest (final?) mock draft this morning, he lists Jimmy as being considered by Houston at #23 and OKC at #24 and selected by Boston at #25.

Guaranteed contract on a contender that gets a lot of national publicity. I'm in favor.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-110623

Analysis: If the Celtics are going to keep competing for a title, they need players who know their roles, can play without the ball in their hands and meld in. Butler brings toughness, defense and heart.

Butler epitomizes that approach with his game and would be a great fit with the Celtics as a player who can play multiple positions off the bench. Reggie Jackson is another strong possibility here, as is Norris Cole.


Ford has Butler now ranked #27 overall among prospects. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/results/top100/_/year/2011/set/1

Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 23, 2011, 10:34:02 AM
I hope he goes to play for Doc in Boston.

I have a feeling he's going to fall to the Bulls though.  I think the Bulls are hoping the same thing.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: DJO's Pump Fake on June 23, 2011, 10:50:07 AM
Wow has there been a bigger rise of a player in recent memory?

From undrafted most of the season to 25th overall in mock drafts?  This is awesome for Jimmy and well deserved.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: groove on June 23, 2011, 10:57:42 AM
nuggets could take him at 22
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: MUCam on June 23, 2011, 11:05:46 AM
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on June 23, 2011, 10:50:07 AM
Wow has there been a bigger rise of a player in recent memory?

Lazar Hayward? A quick review of the final mock drafts for last year's draft had him solidly in the second half of the second round. No one expected guaranteed 1st round money.

Further, I can't recall him being even talked about as a serious potential draft choice going into his senior year, but my memory fails me. I found one "early 2010 mock draft" from before Lazar's senior year. His name was notably absent, although admittedly, the list only included 30 players.

Regardless of how unusual, or usual, Butler's rise has been, it sure is exciting to see unfold. I really hope he gets that first round money.

Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: DomJamesToTheBasket on June 23, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on June 23, 2011, 10:50:07 AM
Wow has there been a bigger rise of a player in recent memory?

From undrafted most of the season to 25th overall in mock drafts?  This is awesome for Jimmy and well deserved.

Paul George last year climbed from nowhere all the way to 10.....I predicted a shot up the charts for Jimmy because he has a lot in common with why George's stock skyrocketed.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Ari Gold on June 23, 2011, 11:08:58 AM
I'd love to see Jimmy playin with D-Wade
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: texaswarrior74 on June 23, 2011, 11:10:36 AM
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on June 23, 2011, 10:50:07 AM
Wow has there been a bigger rise of a player in recent memory?

From undrafted most of the season to 25th overall in mock drafts?  This is awesome for Jimmy and well deserved.

He's being helped greatly by what most experts are calling a weak draft. Listened to Bilas this morning on the Herd then got a far better draft analysis by Donnie Nelson of the Mavs on the local ESPN affiliate. He said that most people are drawing a line after #2, then another somewhere around 13/14 and another in the 23/24 area as far as rating players....said that many may end up taking European players and leaving them in Europe for a year or two if the specific player they want isn't on the board any more...said that hasn't happened in a while because other drafts have had more depth.

This seems to work out really well for JFB. Keeping fingers crossed.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on June 23, 2011, 12:07:20 PM
USA today has him going #30 to the Bulls. tout his defense and basketball IQ
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: lurch91 on June 23, 2011, 12:36:11 PM
In Chad Ford's Draft V7.0 from this morning, he has JFB going to Boston at #25.

Quote
Analysis: If the Celtics are going to keep competing for a title, they need players who know their roles, can play without the ball in their hands and meld in. Butler brings toughness, defense and heart.

Butler epitomizes that approach with his game and would be a great fit with the Celtics as a player who can play multiple positions off the bench. Reggie Jackson is another strong possibility here, as is Norris Cole.

Edit: I just checked the second round, and Ford has Jon Leuer going to Chicago at #43.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: wyoMUfan on June 23, 2011, 12:42:15 PM
Miami is my hope
Then any western conference team because I really have a hard time rooting for Boston / Chicago
Denver would be nice as I could go see him play!
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 23, 2011, 01:07:44 PM
Doc is tight with Crean, DWade wears IU shorts and therefore, with the 25th selection in the 2011 NBA Draft, the Boston Celtics select.....Jimmy Butler of Marquette University.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on June 23, 2011, 01:21:57 PM
Im starting to get pumped. I only root for players team in the NBA so I really hope Jimmy goes somewhere good. I hate LeBron so I didnt want Heat to win, but if its Wade AND Jimmy. LETS GO HEAT.

I hope he goes to Celtics though and have heard they really like him. Bulls would be awesome too. Thunder as well. Basically anything late 1st round ha.

Blazers have discussed getting Tony Parker.

A Jimmy Butler Celts/Bulls/Heat vs A Wesley Matthews Blazers? Epic Finals IMO :DDDDDD
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: tower912 on June 23, 2011, 02:02:33 PM
Buzz using him to, and him being able to guard Brooks and then Holloday (sp?) in high visibility games helped him immensely.    Showing him able to guard 5 positions in college and 3-4 in the pros is huge.   Bruce Bowen comes to mind.    Plus, with his backstory and exhibited character, he will probably be drafted higher than his pure numbers dictate.     A great night for Jimmy, and a good night for Buzz and the MU hoop program.    Buzz gets all of the coaching credit for developing this one. 
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Bocephys on June 23, 2011, 02:06:05 PM
The Big Lead has him going #30 to Chicago: http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/23/2011-nba-mock-draft-3-0/

Quote30 Chicago Bulls – Jimmy Butler, F, Marquette ... He was once homeless. You should read this. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=Butler-110618 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=Butler-110618)
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Hards Alumni on June 23, 2011, 02:33:09 PM
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on June 23, 2011, 08:44:32 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 06, 2011, 10:00:05 PM
I love Jimmy Butler as much as the next guy, but if he gets drafted I'll eat my shoe.

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 15, 2011, 12:56:58 PM
I believe I still have a shoe to eat if Jimmy gets drafted.

Can we get a live feed on this?

Its on the grill, and I have the condiments ready.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Markusquette on June 23, 2011, 02:47:52 PM
Please not to the Heat.  Would be such a letdown to see Jimmy go there.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: tower912 on June 23, 2011, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 23, 2011, 02:33:09 PM
Its on the grill, and I have the condiments ready.
Guacamole.   Everything is better with Guacamole.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: HouWarrior on June 23, 2011, 03:13:27 PM
Dont count out the Rockets taking him at 23. We traded defensive stopper Shane Battier back to Memphis, but lacked good D at the SF for the rest of the season. Morey and McHale are preaching defensive upgrades. Hes a great fit here.

If drafted, we promise not to have the veteran loving, short tempered with rookies Jeff VanGundy (long gone) bury him to the bench like Novak.

Immaterial, admittedly, but JBs houston connection wont hurt---his family will be hoping Rockets...as will I.

Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: NavinRJohnson on June 23, 2011, 04:38:00 PM
The big question is, can he guard LeBron better than the Celtics, or Bulls in particular threw at him n the playoffs? I would say yes, especially where the Bulls are concerned (Kyle Korver? Really?). Don't be fooled by anything that happened in the Finals, if you are a contender in the East, you have to build to try to beat the Heat for the next 4-5 years. As I said 3-4 weeks ago, I believe that makes Jimmy Butler an obvious choice at that point in the first round.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: MUMac on June 23, 2011, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 23, 2011, 02:33:09 PM
Its on the grill, and I have the condiments ready.

Take if from someone who frequently has his foot in his mouth, marinate it with italian dressing and a little seasoning on the grill with garlic butter softens the shoe ...
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Pakuni on June 23, 2011, 06:30:55 PM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 23, 2011, 02:33:09 PM
Its on the grill, and I have the condiments ready.

It'll be the greatest dining moment MU Scoop has seen since Tulsa Warrior had to eat his computer upon Dale Layer's hiring at Liberty.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: mu ricer22 on June 23, 2011, 06:34:37 PM
Anyone know if Jimmy is at the draft? I'm thinking no but you never know what vacations people take.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: MUMac on June 23, 2011, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: mu ricer22 on June 23, 2011, 06:34:37 PM
Anyone know if Jimmy is at the draft? I'm thinking no but you never know what vacations people take.

Thought I read earlier that he was going to watch it at his home in Texas.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: 🏀 on June 23, 2011, 06:50:03 PM
Lazar's PT just took another blow.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: lurch91 on June 23, 2011, 06:52:09 PM
Apparently, he's taking his brother to Chuck E. Cheese. (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/124392774.html)

Not sure if he's serious about that, but if he is the media coverage at Chuck E. Cheese sure could be interesting.
Title: Draft express has hit 7 of 11 picks exactly and has Jimmy at 33rd
Post by: bamamarquettefan on June 23, 2011, 07:39:53 PM
Except for Cleveland getting Tristan Thompson 4 spots ahead of schedule, Draft Express has:

7 exact hits
2 picks one spot off their projection
1 pick two spots off their projection

I hope they are at least 3 spots off with Butler, still want the guaranteed two year deal just to be safe! 

GO JIMMY!
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: texaswarrior74 on June 23, 2011, 07:43:38 PM
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on June 23, 2011, 02:47:52 PM
Please not to the Heat.  Would be such a letdown to see Jimmy go there.

Agree...NOT the Heat
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on June 23, 2011, 07:47:20 PM
Quote from: texaswarrior74 on June 23, 2011, 07:43:38 PM
Agree...NOT the Heat

I'd love for him to go to the Heat.  Can't be picky where he goes.  Look at this way, the Heat will be the central team of the NBA the next years.  People can hate on them all they want, but that's the reality.  Having two Marquette players on that team would be awesome.  I'd much rather he go there then somewhere else that only the most diehard of NBA fans would recognize him.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on June 23, 2011, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on June 23, 2011, 07:47:20 PM
I'd love for him to go to the Heat.  Can't be picky where he goes.  Look at this way, the Heat will be the central team of the NBA the next years.  People can hate on them all they want, but that's the reality.  Having two Marquette players on that team would be awesome.  I'd much rather he go there then somewhere else that only the most diehard of NBA fans would recognize him.
+1
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: reinko on June 23, 2011, 08:19:51 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on June 23, 2011, 07:47:20 PM
I'd love for him to go to the Heat.  Can't be picky where he goes.  Look at this way, the Heat will be the central team of the NBA the next years.  People can hate on them all they want, but that's the reality.  Having two Marquette players on that team would be awesome.  I'd much rather he go there then somewhere else that only the most diehard of NBA fans would recognize him.

And as long as he makes a roster, winner winner chicken dinner for Reinko.  You already shopping for my box o'Cali gifts CBB??
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: mileskishnish72 on June 23, 2011, 08:37:53 PM
I love my Celtics (not as much as my Warriors) and I think JFB would look GREAT in GREEN!
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: cheebs09 on June 23, 2011, 08:43:26 PM
Well great, now we need to replace Crowder who just got drafted by the Nuggets.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Golden Avalanche on June 23, 2011, 09:15:11 PM
My thoughts on Butler seem to be coming to fruition. Every GM loves him, knows he'll be a solid pro, but all bank that their colleagues won't spend the 1st round guarantee on him. He just doesn't have that dripping potential that these clowns eat up every June.

Edit: Wow, good for Jimmy sneaking in by the ass to the Bulls.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Litehouse on June 23, 2011, 09:22:53 PM
Da Bulls!
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: HouWarrior on June 23, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
da bulls congrats jb
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: lurch91 on June 23, 2011, 09:23:22 PM
JFB with the #30 Pick (last in the First Round) to Chicago!

Grats JFB on your guaranteed contract!
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Windyplayer on June 23, 2011, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: Litehouse on June 23, 2011, 09:22:53 PM
Da Bulls!
Bulls. Bulls. Bulls...Da Bulls.
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: MUMac on June 23, 2011, 09:24:08 PM
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on June 23, 2011, 09:15:11 PM
My thoughts on Butler seem to be coming to fruition. Every GM loves him, knows he'll be a solid pro, but all bank that their colleagues won't spend the 1st round guarantee on him. He just doesn't have that dripping potential that these clowns eat up every June.

You hit "post" just a tad early!!!  

Congrats Jimmy!  Unfortunately, now I have to follow the Bulls.   :(
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: wellalright on June 23, 2011, 09:27:58 PM
Quote from: windyplayer on June 23, 2011, 09:23:33 PM
Bulls. Bulls. Bulls...Da Bulls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBxHrIh1cBQ
Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: NavinRJohnson on June 24, 2011, 10:36:17 AM
Occasionally you have to give yourself a small pat on the back...

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on May 31, 2011, 07:53:56 AM
If I were the Bulls watching the likes of Kyle Korver trying to guard LeBron James, I'd think long and hard about taking Jimmy Butler if for no other reason than that. The Bulls are obviously in a position that they need to build to beat the Heat in the next few years. They are not likely to find a star at their spot, so they might as well try to nab a guy who can potentially do something...anything defensively against LBJ. Butler just may be that guy.

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on June 23, 2011, 04:38:00 PM
The big question is, can he guard LeBron better than the Celtics, or Bulls in particular threw at him n the playoffs? I would say yes, especially where the Bulls are concerned (Kyle Korver? Really?). Don't be fooled by anything that happened in the Finals, if you are a contender in the East, you have to build to try to beat the Heat for the next 4-5 years. As I said 3-4 weeks ago, I believe that makes Jimmy Butler an obvious choice at that point in the first round.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/columns/story?columnist=greenberg_jon&id=6699187 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/columns/story?columnist=greenberg_jon&id=6699187)

The Bulls see Butler, who averaged 15.7 points and 6.1 rebounds per game as a senior, as a small forward on offense with the ability to defend every position except center, and the 21-year-old is saying all the right things already, talking defense and shutting down LeBron James.

"I think I'm a guard; that's how I'm going to make my mark in this league," he said. "I'm going to put in that work to be able to guard LeBron, Dwyane Wade and all those guys so the Bulls can get to that championship.

"I'm working on my outside shot, so I'll be able to knock it down, but I think the biggest thing is defense," he continued. "I'm going to be a pest, take up everybody's space and make them work for every little thing. I think that's where everything is going to go for me. If I want to get out there, it's going to be on the defensive end, getting stops and running after defensive rebounds."

Why not just buy Thibodeau flowers and chocolates while you're at it, Jimmy.

Of course, that's the kind of attitude the Bulls were targeting, and Bulls general manager Gar Forman allowed that they were thinking about a big swingman who could defend James, so he doesn't act like Michael Jordan again next June.

"It was discussed as we went through the process," Forman said. "And that's not to put pressure on a guy that just got picked, that we're going to throw him out there and expect him to guard LeBron, but we think got a lot of versatility defensively and we think that's a real plus for us."


Title: Re: JIMMY BUTLER DRAFT NIGHT
Post by: Abode4life on June 24, 2011, 10:51:13 AM
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on June 23, 2011, 02:33:09 PM
Its on the grill, and I have the condiments ready.

Was it good?
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