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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: OhioGoldenEagle on April 28, 2011, 02:04:16 PM

Title: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: OhioGoldenEagle on April 28, 2011, 02:04:16 PM
Not that MU was a serious contender, but someone we have discussed as a possible target for months.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/ncb/news/story?id=6443546

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Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: Rockmic87 on April 28, 2011, 02:08:33 PM
Haha, see I told you we can't recruit big men!
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: OhioGoldenEagle on April 28, 2011, 02:09:03 PM
9 new players will be joining Coach Lavin's program next season!  I suspect it's going to be tough for Lav to juggle all of that talent and keep them all happy.  Over/Under on how many of those 9 will finish their "careers" at St. Johns?  I'll set the O/U at 6.5
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 28, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
Not true.  Marquette has had a lot of big men!
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: Rockmic87 on April 28, 2011, 02:11:58 PM
Quote from: msbjim on April 28, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
Not true.  Marquette has had a lot of big men!

Ooopps. I forgot, we've had an abundance of big men!
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: leever on April 28, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 28, 2011, 02:11:58 PM
Ooopps. I forgot, we've had an abundance of big men!


Seriously, there's a lot of "big men" out there at any given time.  There's no sense to just adding a "big man" if he can't play.  Do you think we need a "big man" to anchor the end of the bench?

I think Lavin is a good recruiter and probably a good judge of talent, but I really don't think God's Gift is going to see much playing time in his St John's career and he wouldn't have at MU either..
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: muhoosier260 on April 28, 2011, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: Rockmic87 on April 28, 2011, 02:08:33 PM
Haha, see I told you we can't recruit big men!

i think you meant The Big Man. Great name, though on the court it will just invite derision.
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: HoopsMalone on April 28, 2011, 03:48:42 PM
And the enormous recruiting class at St. John's got even bigger.
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: MarquetteDano on April 28, 2011, 05:46:10 PM
We going to find out next year (and the year after) how good a coach(es) the Lavin/Keady combination is going to be.  Unbelievable amount of talent but extremely inexperienced.  They get a pass next year in terms of expectations but the year after should be interesting.  They should be an NCAA team that year on paper but time will tell.
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 28, 2011, 10:56:03 PM
there are some that say that ZFFB was God's Gift to Marquette.
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 29, 2011, 07:34:08 AM
Quote from: ZiggysF*ckinFryBoy on April 28, 2011, 10:56:03 PM
there are some that say that ZFFB was God's Gift to Marquette.

Like who?
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: reinko on April 29, 2011, 11:20:41 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 29, 2011, 07:34:08 AM
Like who?

ZFB, her perhaps?
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Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: reinko on April 29, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on April 28, 2011, 02:09:03 PM
9 new players will be joining Coach Lavin's program next season!  I suspect it's going to be tough for Lav to juggle all of that talent and keep them all happy.  Over/Under on how many of those 9 will finish their "careers" at St. Johns?  I'll set the O/U at 6.5

If by finish their careers, do you mean graduate from SJU?  If so, I am going waaaay under.
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: OhioGoldenEagle on April 29, 2011, 12:21:44 PM
Quote from: reinko on April 29, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
If by finish their careers, do you mean graduate from SJU?  If so, I am going waaaay under.
Ha!  No, that's not what I meant.  To clarify, I meant their "basketball careers"......meaning St.Johns would be the only school they would play for, thus they would either enter the NBA draft early or use their full 4 years of eligibility there.
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: Marquette84 on April 29, 2011, 04:18:31 PM
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on April 28, 2011, 02:09:03 PM
9 new players will be joining Coach Lavin's program next season!  I suspect it's going to be tough for Lav to juggle all of that talent and keep them all happy.  Over/Under on how many of those 9 will finish their "careers" at St. Johns?  I'll set the O/U at 6.5

Class of nine includes two jucos and seven frosh.

According to Buzz, on average 40% of freshmen will transfer. That makes 2.8 leaving and 4.2 finishing their careers at St Johns.  

Assuming neither JUCO transfers, your 6.5 prediction means a slightly better retention rate than expected.

If your point was that Lavin would have a hard time juggling all that talent because its in one class, wouldn't you expect a worse retention rate than average?
Title: Re: God's Gift to St. John's
Post by: WarriorHal on April 29, 2011, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: OhioGoldenEagle on April 29, 2011, 12:21:44 PM
Ha!  No, that's not what I meant.  To clarify, I meant their "basketball careers"......meaning St.Johns would be the only school they would play for, thus they would either enter the NBA draft early or use their full 4 years of eligibility there.


I think the phrase you're looking for is "exhaust their eligibility." Not to be confused with actually graduating.  ;D
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