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Title: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: CrackedSidewalksSays on April 18, 2011, 04:15:04 AM
Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect

Written by: jpudner@concentricgrasstops.com (bamamarquettefan1)

I had received requests for updates as some of the Top 50 on the recruiting wish list signed.  There has been a lot of activity the last few days, resulting in 15 of the 50 signing somewhere, including my #5 Keith Coleman needing two years of JUCO and my #2 Jarion Henry apparently going to New Mexico after tweeting about their "hotties."  

However, perhaps the biggest news (thanks ATL MU WARRIOR) is I cannot ignore that a 7-foot, 4-star player from DJO's home town of Raleigh, NC, was just released from his commitment to NC State and easily becomes the 2nd biggest potential get besides Murray on the "wish list," and remember that's all this is.  Murray visits this weekend though he is reportedly leaning to Kansas or WVU.

I also added a team score to every player so you know how good a team the player was on last (150=Ohio State, 139=Marquette, 120=best JUCO school, 100=best prep school, St. Anthony's of New Jersey.)  These are all based on www.masseyratings.com, so please go contribute to his unbelievable work.  I listed all new signed players on the bottom, and Juan Anderson has led his California team to an 89 rating, meaning they are only 11 points worse than St. Anthony's.  The new 7-footer Joseph Uchebo also led his team to great success, as his 86 indicates they were only 14 points worse than St. Anthony's.  However, my #9, big man Yvan Ngirabakunzi, played for a high school with only a 22 rating, meaning maybe his competition was way to low to make the jump to the Big East, though he may if Central Florida is added.


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#1st NameLast NameHeightLevelTeamTeam scoreCommitted or other news[/tr]
1AaricMurray6-foot-10CollegeLa Salle126visiting MU this weekend
1.5JosephUchebo7-foot-0PrepRaleigh, NC Word of God867-foot 4-star just released from NCSt commit
2JarionHenry6-foot-8PrepDallas TX Kimball92looks like New Mexico
3PierreJackson5-foot-10JUCOCollege of Southern Idaho114Baylor
4JuwanStaten6-foot-0CollegeDayton130 
5KeithColeman6-foot-9PrepLee, Maine High School72JUCO - Marshalltown CC
6GarrickSherman6-foot-10CollegeMichigan State137expected Notre Dame, visiting now
7PhilipJurick6-foot-11JUCOChattanooga State Tech CC114 
8Gods GiftAchiuwa6-foot-9JUCOErie Community College103appears Washington, maybe St. John's
9YvanNgirabakunzi6-foot-10PrepPiney Woods MS Piney Woods22verbal to Central FL orida
10AmathM’Baye6-foot-9CollegeWyoming120reportedly Oklahoma
11AntonGrady6-foot-8PrepCleveland OH Central Catholic68Cleveland State
12AaronHarwell5-foot-10CollegeCentenary102 
13TavaresSpeaks6-foot-4JUCOCape Fear Community College99Liberty
14GeneTeague6-foot-9CollegeSouthern Illinois122 
15HooperVint6-foot-10PrepVan Buren AR  Van Buren76UTEP
16MarsellHolden5-foot-11JUCOSan Jacito College Central106 
17MichaelHale5-foot-9JUCONorth Idaho96 
18A.J.English6-foot-3PrepMiddletown DE Appoquinimink70 
19LonnieHayes6-foot-0JUCOMO State U - West Plains102 
20JeffEarly6-foot-3PrepMonroe College 95 
21TonyKimbro6-foot-6PrepLouisvilleKY Jeffersontown83 
22DesmarJackson6-foot-5CollegeWyoming120 
23LarryMcGaughey6-foot-5JUCOLawson State111 
24TyquanGoodlett6-foot-3PrepJersey CityNJ St. Anthony100 
25HanifNixon-Hughes6-foot-4JUCONorth Dakota State Science106 
26JordanLatham6-foot-8CollegeXavier137 
27TylerBrown6-foot-4JUCOMarshalltown Community College114Illinois State
28JeremyJones6-foot-2JUCOSeward County Community College103 
29ColtonIverson6-foot-10CollegeMinnesota136 
30RecoLewis6-foot-2JUCOWaycross College88 
31CharlesAshford6-foot-1JUCOVincennes University 96 
32CheikhMbodji6-foot-9JUCOGrayson County College81Cincinnati
33DylanTalley6-foot-5JUCOBlinn College114Nebraska
34RogerFranklin6-foot-5CollegeOklahoma State133North Texas
35OrlandoSanchez6-foot-8JUCOMonroe College 95 
36QuintonPippen6-foot-4JUCOMO State U - West Plains102 
37GaryCooper6-foot-8PrepMonroe, MichiganMonroe48supposedly MU looking at him
38CharlesBennett5-foot-10PrepHouston TX Yates42 
39JaysonGuerrier6-foot-4JUCOAlabama Southern CC105 
40MilosKleut6-foot-10CollegeLipscomb126 
41QuevynWinters6-foot-5PrepOldsmar FL Oldsmar Christian76 
42TaylorSmith6-foot-6JUCOMcLennan Community College86Stephen F Austin
43AlexCarmen6-foot-3PrepLong Beach, CA Poly96 
44CorbinThomas6-foot-6JUCOSouthwestern Illinois College 96 
45CoreyWilford6-foot-1JUCOConnors State College99reported Murray State visit
46D'AndreMartin6-foot-2PrepMonroe, LouisianaRichwood71 
47MartyreDemarco6-foot-2PrepPhoenix, AZ Shadow Mountain39 
48TavianPomlee6-foot-5PrepDavenport, IA Central22 
49DerrellArmstrong6-foot-1JUCOAllegany College of Maryland 91 
50DiyaaldinKelley6-foot-11CollegeMaryland Eastern-Shore109 
SJuanAnderson6-foot-6PrepCastro Valley, CA Castro Valley89Reportedly has grown!
SJamal Ferguson6-foot-3PrepNorfolk,VA Maury672012 off to great start
SToddMayo6-foot-3PrepFitchburg, MA  Notre Dame72Welcome! Practice against O.J.
SDavid Singleton6-foot-3CollegeHigh Point115Another potential point.
SDerrickWilson6-foot-0PrepLakeville, CT Hotchkiss School76Point Guard gets stronger
SJamilWilson6-foot-7CollegeOregon130Can't wait.

And I hate to even put this out there if you are a geek like me, but the prep ratings were determined by going to http://www.highschoolsports.net/massey/matchup/Basketball/Varsity/Boys/, where you can find any two prep teams in the country and match them against each other.  I treated St. Anthony's as the 100 and gave each prep school above a rating by subtracting however many points they would be expected to lose to in a game against St. Anthony's.

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2011/04/top-50-recruit-wish-list-updated-with.html
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: radome on April 18, 2011, 09:38:47 AM
You never know what to believe but ...

LaSalle's Murray likely choices Kansas, West Virginia
By Jon Rothstein
Special to CBSSports.com
April 17, 2011 

LaSalle big man Aaric Murray is likely to transfer to either Kansas or West Virginia, several sources confirmed late Saturday night.

There is no timetable to when an official decision will be made.

The 6-foot-10 Murray will have two years of eligibility remaining but must sit out next season per NCAA rules.

The value of Murray to both the Jayhawks and the Mountaineers would be monumental. Should the power forward wind up with the Jayhawks, he would give Bill Self a ready-made product to step in for Thomas Robinson after next season when Robinson is expected to leave for the NBA.

Meanwhile, a marriage between Murray and the fans of Morgantown would give Bob Huggins an heir apparent to Kevin Jones at power forward.

Last season for LaSalle, Murray averaged 15.2 points per game and 7.7 rebounds per game while notching seven double-doubles.

Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: BCHoopster on April 18, 2011, 09:45:25 AM
If he does visit to MU, the players already at MU will have to make
a great impression, Kansas is tough to beat.  West Virginia not really.
There is a starting spot at all 3 schools.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 18, 2011, 10:33:09 AM
BAMA
Thanks for compiling these. Recruiting is such a rumor game...these analyses add some objectivity to the meat market. I know they are a lot of work but it brings a bit more clarity and added perspectives.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2011, 11:11:20 AM
I think that there's every chance we could land Murray, though I'm not happy to hear Kansas jumping into the chase for him. I think that if he's going to commit to Marquette, we'll know by Monday or Tuesday. If he leaves Milwaukee without committing, our chances drop significantly.

DePaul and Oklahoma State don't really scare me from a recruiting perspective. Huggins can seal the deal, though, he's been doing this long enough. Honestly, if he doesn't come here, I hope he does go to Kansas, just to keep him out of the Big East.

After Murray, there are a couple realistic players I'd like, guys we've been mentioned with already...

Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: HoopsMalone on April 18, 2011, 11:16:34 AM
This guy is hearing KU or WVU for Murray:  http://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/59609940955889664

Are we sure he is still interested in MU now that Kansas is in the mix?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: BCHoopster on April 18, 2011, 11:31:42 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 18, 2011, 11:11:20 AM
I think that there's every chance we could land Murray, though I'm not happy to hear Kansas jumping into the chase for him. I think that if he's going to commit to Marquette, we'll know by Monday or Tuesday. If he leaves Milwaukee without committing, our chances drop significantly.

DePaul and Oklahoma State don't really scare me from a recruiting perspective. Huggins can seal the deal, though, he's been doing this long enough. Honestly, if he doesn't come here, I hope he does go to Kansas, just to keep him out of the Big East.

After Murray, there are a couple realistic players I'd like, guys we've been mentioned with already...

  • Jeremy Jones would probably lead that list, a Chicago native and point, we are reportedly already in on him.
  • Charles Bennett would be the same class as Wilson, but he plays in Buzz's backyard (Houston Yates), can put up points, and is another 3-star point to give us options.
  • God's Gift Achiuwa hasn't been mentioned with us lately, but Buzz has sprung surprise JUCO names on us before, and this would be less of a surprise than Crowder was. The only question mark is the level of competition he faced at Erie CC.
  • AJ English's dad played in the NBA, and he also has a younger brother (Ajen, 2012 PG) who could follow him here; his father is looking at getting into coaching when his kids go off to college, and coach's kids tend to do well.
  • Gary Cooper hasn't caught a lot of services' eyes yet, but sounds like a solid under-the-radar guy, potentially the face-up 4 we're looking for.
  • Desmar Jackson was reportedly scouted by us before committing to Wyoming, would sit out a year, but could be an ideal DJO replacement after next year in case Mayo's not yet ready.
  • Tony Kimbro's father was a Parade All-American in high school, but never met the hype at Louisville, still would be nice to steal a Louisville kid in hopes that he could have the collegiate success that eluded his father (though I admit we don't need another 2/3 switchable).
  • Quevyn Winters is a Milwaukee native who drew criticism for allegedly throwing a punch at a ref a couple years back, but claims to have worked on his game and his self-control, seems like a high-major talent with serious question marks, has had interest in the past from Wisconsin, Marquette, K-State, Illinois, Baylor, and has a current offer from USF. Projects as a 6'5" player that can shoot and distribute, love the skillset, but questions, questions, questions...
  • Martyre Demarco would be strictly a project player as his quickness is questioned at the next level, but he is a point drawing interest from UConn, Arizona, and California, so there is probably something there, maybe a good option alongside Singleton as a reserve point.
Great info Brew city, but the one point you do no know is that with only 2 schoolies left, the players discussed maybe are
            not as good as the 2012 potential recruits and secondly, Buzz only plays about 9 kids, so why have 13 next year?  The kid
            is probably not going to play much anyway, that is why a transfer much like Wilson is a good idea. Murray really is perfect,
            but can he buy into the work ethic?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2011, 11:56:55 AM
Quote from: HoopsMalone on April 18, 2011, 11:16:34 AMThis guy is hearing KU or WVU for Murray:  http://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/59609940955889664

Are we sure he is still interested in MU now that Kansas is in the mix?

He's visiting this upcoming weekend. I'm sure we'll have a much better idea where we stand come Monday or Tuesday of next week.

BCHoopster, I agree that Murray is perfect, and personally I really only want a "play-now" player if he's a point guard, as I think that's the one place we might need extra help in 2011-12. That's why I like Jones, and would really like Aaron Harwell from Centenary, who would be a sophomore that could play now because of their move to D3. But while we might have more names in line for 2012 than we can take, there's no sense in just wasting a 2011 scholarship. I'd sooner get someone in to see if they could blow up (like Cooper or Bennett) than just waste it.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 12:28:38 PM
IWB said on the Scout board that Marquette pulled out of the running for Murray, so I would guess the visit is history.

M'Baye transfers to Oklahoma from Wyoming.

http://ouhoops.com/?p=6071
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: marquette99 on April 18, 2011, 12:31:14 PM
Great additional notes.

On murray, I believe there are 2 scenarios:

1. If he really is set on kansas or wvu, he could easily cancel his trip this week, or

2) If he does get to campus you have to assume we have at least a 10 percent chance at him. Every kid is different, but some will view milwaukee and an nba area and the spanish o'donnell's as things that neither wvu or kansas can offer.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: HoopsMalone on April 18, 2011, 01:07:33 PM
Quote from: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 12:28:38 PM
IWB said on the Scout board that Marquette pulled out of the running for Murray, so I would guess the visit is history.

"Despite what your friends might think, 'no' is a good answer. Everyone thinks 'no' is a bad answer. 'Maybe' is the bad answer. 'Yes' is the best answer, the one we all want. But 'no' at least ends the conversation."  -Al
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 18, 2011, 02:09:14 PM
Quote from: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 12:28:38 PM
IWB said on the Scout board that Marquette pulled out of the running for Murray, so I would guess the visit is history.

M'Baye transfers to Oklahoma from Wyoming.

http://ouhoops.com/?p=6071


If MU pulled out, I guarantee we're not finished yet. Still gotta consumate the deal.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 18, 2011, 02:58:51 PM
BTW, Jurick just chose Oklahoma State
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 18, 2011, 03:07:59 PM
Did we pull out because he didn't seem that interested, or because we are zeroing in on someone else at this point?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2011, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 18, 2011, 03:07:59 PMDid we pull out because he didn't seem that interested, or because we are zeroing in on someone else at this point?

All IWB said in the thread I saw was that we pulled out. Could be either or. My guess is maybe Buzz knew we weren't going to get him and decided to focus elsewhere, but either way, it's disappointing. There simply aren't that many other guys still out there to really get excited about, unless somehow TJ Taylor managed to wrangle a transfer to a D1 school.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 18, 2011, 03:20:39 PM
I actually like the idea of Juwan Staten.  He could come in and be a back up to Junior for his senior year, and then pretty much be our starting point for the next two years.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 18, 2011, 03:35:07 PM
I'm not certain pulling out is the best way to go.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 18, 2011, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 18, 2011, 03:35:07 PM
I'm not certain pulling out is the best way to go.

It worked for me back in the day but there were certainly some days/weeks where I worried it hadn't.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Bocephys on April 18, 2011, 03:38:36 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 18, 2011, 03:35:07 PM
I'm not certain pulling out is the best way to go.

Well nothing's 100% effective, so pulling out certainly can't hurt.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 18, 2011, 03:42:33 PM
Latest on Henry and New Mexico...strangely silent since all the initial excitement about his visit there. His other interest was Gtown who used the schollie for Porter.  USC and MU getting back in?

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/3-OUT-2-IN-FOR-LOBOS-SO-FARSpring-Recruiting-Continues-for-New-Mexico-While-Questions-Remain-About-Who-Might-Come-Or-52426325
Title: Jarion Henry announcing on Sunday
Post by: GGGG on April 18, 2011, 03:56:18 PM
According to Henry's twitter account, he is announcing on Sunday and signing on Monday.  Oh and he apparently told some MU fan on twitter that he doesn't want to be a power forward.

http://twitter.com/Jarion_Henry
Title: Re: Jarion Henry announcing on Sunday
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 18, 2011, 05:52:02 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 18, 2011, 03:56:18 PM
According to Henry's twitter account, he is announcing on Sunday and signing on Monday.  Oh and he apparently told some MU fan on twitter that he doesn't want to be a power forward.

http://twitter.com/Jarion_Henry

Dammit, he's a switchable! SF/PF...need a say a "Maymon SG."

He'd get lots of touches at MU. But if he wants to be the "Man" he'd better go to a lower team in a BCS conference or mid-major.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 07:16:44 PM
Bank the scholarship for 2012.  Right now Buzz would be reaching for players who won't see any time as freshman next year or maybe not much time in the future either.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 18, 2011, 07:21:12 PM
Forget that. Plenty of talent out there ranked about where Ox was last year.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 07:34:13 PM
Are there any players left who could beat out Chris Otule or Davante Gardner insde for minutes next year?  I'm very skeptical and Chris and Davante both have two or more years left.

Are there any players good enough to take minutes away from Crowder, Jamil Wilson, Williams, Jones and Anderson at forward next year and beyond?  Again, I'm very skeptical.

Any guards left who can get minutes next year with Cadougan, Johnson-Odom, Blue, Mayo and Derrick Wilson on the team?  Don't think so.

If you bank the scholarship, you balance the classes in 2012 and you can possibly get a center and either another point or a forward to go with Jamal Ferguson.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 18, 2011, 07:42:10 PM
Never bank scholarships.  Buzz knows what he's doing.

If there's nobody hot left (which isn't true yet) take a flyer on a kid.  If he doesn't work out he can xfer next year to free up a scholarship.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 07:47:24 PM
I know that Buzz know's what he's doing and there isn't much out there right now.  I just watched some game video of one of the hottest names out there and he simply isn't good enough for a program like Marquette.

To be honest, I liked the Wyoming transfer M'Baye, but he opted for Oklahoma this weekend and I might take the Canadian kid who's leaving Louisiana Tech with one year left and immediate eligibility, but other than that, there just isn't anyone who I think is worth it, but that's me.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 18, 2011, 07:54:58 PM
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Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: MUMac on April 18, 2011, 08:00:45 PM
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Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 08:18:25 PM
I don't want to cause problems and if Buzz finds someone who can help next year or later in his career, more power to him.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Earl Tatum on April 18, 2011, 08:32:55 PM
Hey, I think Ted is on the right track for once.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Earl Tatum on April 18, 2011, 08:36:54 PM
Even though, I think is right, Gary Cooper, or Jordan Latham would do fine. I know Latham has had problems with D-1 ball. Buzz could light the fire. Jeremy Jones is really good but how many 6-2 guards do we need?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 18, 2011, 08:37:09 PM
Quote from: MUMac on April 18, 2011, 08:00:45 PM
I know nothing about you, nor care,

Ditto.

But I deleted my comment anyway.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2011, 08:40:10 PM
The way I look at it, banking a scholarship doesn't help us at all. I know that for certain. We will have no benefit in 2011-12 with a scholarship that goes unused.

If we use a scholarship, it will most likely help us. I will agree to this level, I'm not certain that guys like Cooper, English, or Demarco would ever be good enough to contribute at Marquette. If we signed them, I'd hope so, but until we saw them, we couldn't be certain. I'm pretty confident that Uchebo or Staten would both help our program immensely, but I'm not sure if either is interested. And while there's been previous interest from Latham and Jackson, I realize they wouldn't give us anything on the court next season due to sitting out as transfers, and who knows if they'd still have interest?

But even if it's just extra bodies, that will help in practice. No, not all of these guys would see significant time next year. But what if there's an injury to Cadougan and Wilson isn't ready for D1 as a freshman? Are you confident that Singleton can man the point, or that Blue will be ready to be our primary 1-guard? That's where someone like Aaron Harwell or Jeremy Jones could be invaluable. Aaric Murray (even though we seem to be out of the running) and Latham may not be able to contribute on the court, but how much could they help Gardner and Otule simply by giving them more talented competition in practice?

The only possible worry is that we give the scholarship out to someone who will ruin the team chemistry. But Buzz seems to be pretty good at getting guys in that fit the character of his team, and I trust him in that regard.

While I fully realize just how nice it could be to have 2 schollies available for 2012 (dreams of Jarnell Stokes and Je'lon Hornbeak) that only helps us if they sign, and even if we took a flyer on AJ English and it didn't work out, he can transfer. It may not be the most tasteful of ideas, but it's the business of NCAA basketball.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 08:46:19 PM
Desmar Jackson is going to Southern Illinois and last fall Gary Cooper was talked about as an academic risk.  Have not seen Jeremy Jones mentioned with Marquette for awhile.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 18, 2011, 08:51:20 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 18, 2011, 08:40:10 PM
While I fully realize just how nice it could be to have 2 schollies available for 2012 (dreams of Jarnell Stokes and Je'lon Hornbeak) that only helps us if they sign, and even if we took a flyer on AJ English and it didn't work out, he can transfer. It may not be the most tasteful of ideas, but it's the business of NCAA basketball.


Furthermore, who knows what could happen between now and next year.  We've had at least one transfer out every year.  I hope he comes, but Furguson still has a ways to go before he can sign.  There is just so much up in the air.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: leever on April 19, 2011, 09:22:30 AM
It's not that easy to find more quality players whose first names start with "J".  Especially big men.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: 🏀 on April 19, 2011, 09:28:59 AM
Quote from: leever on April 19, 2011, 09:22:30 AM
It's not that easy to find more quality players whose first names start with "J".  Especially big men.

Nice post.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: NYWarrior on April 19, 2011, 09:45:16 AM
hey, Buzz is looking at another switchable!

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Article/Lions-making-a-move-for-Michigan-F-22402 (http://pennstate.247sports.com/Article/Lions-making-a-move-for-Michigan-F-22402)
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 19, 2011, 09:53:14 AM
If "Marquette has be in touch as of late" my guess is that Buzz is using him as a back-up plan.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: TedBaxter on April 19, 2011, 12:23:40 PM
Henton is the player I watched game footage of last night and didn't think he was good enough and I know he has the stats and was runnerup for Michigan Mr. Basketball.  Just don't think he is the fit currently for Marquette as both Jamil Wilson and Juan Anderson are better.

Update from this week anyway.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20110419/SPORTS05/104190405/1361/Lansing-Eastern-s-LaDontae-Henton-being-courted-by-Iowa-State--Penn-State

Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 20, 2011, 03:19:17 PM
Wish we had better access to what's really going on with Marquette's recruiting process.  I know it probably has to be handled very tactfully by Buzz and the coaching staff, but it's really fascinating reading.  Really, really hope we are able to sign an athletic "big" this spring!
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: brewcity77 on April 23, 2011, 09:16:22 PM
Just a few more updates on players here...

2   Jarion   Henry   6-foot-8   Prep   Dallas TX Kimball   92   Says he's announcing Sunday
4   Juwan   Staten   6-foot-0   College   Dayton   130    Penn State
7   Philip   Jurick   6-foot-11   JUCO   Chattanooga State Tech CC   114    Oklahoma State
21   Tony   Kimbro   6-foot-6   Prep   LouisvilleKY Jeffersontown   83    Visiting Western Kentucky this weekend
22   Desmar   Jackson   6-foot-5   College   Wyoming   120    Southern Illinois
29   Colton   Iverson   6-foot-10   College   Minnesota   136    Colorado State
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: TedBaxter on April 23, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Another update.

#35 Orlando Sanchez from Monroe College is a freshman.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 n
Post by: brewcity77 on April 23, 2011, 09:44:15 PM
Ted, looking at Henton, might he be able to play the 4? While talent seems to dictate Wilson and Anderson may well be playing together by 2012-13, could Henton maybe come in as another undersized post like Lazar and Crowder? Just a thought, because those rebounding numbers are scary, and Michigan typically has a few decent high-majors.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: bamamarquettefan on April 24, 2011, 04:22:45 AM
I will certainly not be surprised if Buzz announces someone not even on this list. 

But assuming Murray is KU or WVU, and Henry announces on Easter Sunday that he is going to New Mexico, I believe what's left of my top 50 list is below.  I knew #35 Sanchez was a freshman, but can't a JUCO freshman choose to transfer like Jimmy Butler did to have three years at a four-year school?  My thought was he looked good enough as a freshman that maybe we could grab him this year before he explodes and everyone is after him next year.

1 Joseph Uchebo 7-foot-0 Prep Raleigh, NC Word of God 7-foot 4-star just released from NCSt commit
8 Gods Gift Achiuwa 6-foot-9 JUCO Erie Community College – didn't sign on Washington visit and may open up more visits or sign after St. John's visit
12 Aaron Harwell 5-foot-10 College Centenary   
14 Gene Teague 6-foot-9 College Southern Illinois
16 Marsell Holden 5-foot-11 JUCO San Jacito College Central   
17 Michael Hale 5-foot-9 JUCO North Idaho
18 A.J. English 6-foot-3 Prep Middletown DE Appoquinimink   
19 Lonnie Hayes 6-foot-0 JUCO MO State U - West Plains   
20 Jeff Early 6-foot-3 Prep Monroe College 
23 Larry McGaughey 6-foot-5 JUCO Lawson State
24 Tyquan Goodlett 6-foot-3 Prep Jersey CityNJ St. Anthony   
25 Hanif Nixon-Hughes 6-foot-4 JUCO North Dakota State Science   
26 Jordan Latham 6-foot-8 College Xavier   
28 Jeremy Jones 6-foot-2 JUCO Seward County Community College  - Chicago native that MU is reportedly in on
29 Colton Iverson 6-foot-10 College Minnesota   
30 Reco Lewis 6-foot-2 JUCO Waycross College
31 Charles Ashford 6-foot-1 JUCO Vincennes University     
35 Orlando Sanchez 6-foot-8 JUCO Monroe College 
36 Quinton Pippen 6-foot-4 JUCO MO State U - West Plains   
37 Gary Cooper 6-foot-8 Prep Monroe, MichiganMonroe - supposedly MU looking at him
38 Charles Bennett 5-foot-10 Prep Houston TX Yates 
39 Jayson Guerrier 6-foot-4 JUCO Alabama Southern CC   
40 Milos Kleut 6-foot-10 College Lipscomb
41 Quevyn Winters 6-foot-5 Prep Oldsmar FL Oldsmar Christian – Milwaukee kid who hopefully has put incident with ref behind him
43 Alex Carmen 6-foot-3 Prep Long Beach, CA Poly
44 Corbin Thomas 6-foot-6 JUCO Southwestern Illinois College   
46 D'Andre Martin 6-foot-2 Prep Monroe, LouisianaRichwood
47 Martyre Demarco 6-foot-2 Prep Phoenix, AZ Shadow Mountain
48 Tavian Pomlee 6-foot-5 Prep Davenport, IA Central
49 Derrell Armstrong 6-foot-1 JUCO Allegany College of Maryland 
50 Diyaaldin Kelley 6-foot-11 College Maryland Eastern-Shore
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 24, 2011, 06:38:57 AM
Quote from: bamamarquettefan on April 24, 2011, 04:22:45 AM
I will certainly not be surprised if Buzz announces someone not even on this list. 

But assuming Murray is KU or WVU, and Henry announces on Easter Sunday that he is going to New Mexico, I believe what's left of my top 50 list is below.  I knew #35 Sanchez was a freshman, but can't a JUCO freshman choose to transfer like Jimmy Butler did to have three years at a four-year school? 


Only if they were a full academic qualifier out of high school like Butler was.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: brewcity77 on April 24, 2011, 06:17:07 PM
Has anyone else been following Jarion Henry's exploits of late? Honestly, I'm not sure I want him here anymore. His Twitter account seems to be about nothing but getting laid by as many women as possible and extolling how he's the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball. I'm all for confident players, but this guy just seems arrogant. He came out with a video on YouTube last week in which he called for all black girls to "get together" with him, and then declared to whichever school he attends that he's "one and done, I'm going to the League. Remember I said this, I'm one and done."

He may be a great talent, but is he any better than Jamil Wilson, Juan Anderson, or Jamail Jones? I have no idea where he will announce tonight. Maybe it ends up being Marquette. But after all the stuff I've read about him and from him in the past two weeks, I honestly hope it isn't.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 24, 2011, 06:30:52 PM
Yeah, there are actually some columnists in New Mexico suggesting that Alford pass on him.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: marquette99 on April 24, 2011, 10:10:07 PM
Sultan - thanks for explaining the juco deal.  I get it now, if a player just went to juco to get his basketball skills up to d1 he can come out if he explodes freshman year, but most are there to get their academics up, so he probably has another juco year.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 n
Post by: brewcity77 on April 24, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
Per multiple Twitter feeds, Jarion Henry picked New Mexico. Personally, I'm glad about that.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 n
Post by: nyg on April 25, 2011, 06:38:05 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 24, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
Per multiple Twitter feeds, Jarion Henry picked New Mexico. Personally, I'm glad about that.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1066982.html

He did pick New Mexico. 
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 25, 2011, 07:51:31 AM
Quote from: marquette99 on April 24, 2011, 10:10:07 PM
Sultan - thanks for explaining the juco deal.  I get it now, if a player just went to juco to get his basketball skills up to d1 he can come out if he explodes freshman year, but most are there to get their academics up, so he probably has another juco year.


No problem.  If you fully qualify academically out of high school (like Butler and DJO), you can leave your JUCO after one year.  If you fail to qualify academically out of high school (like Buycks and Crowder), you not only have to go two years, but you must get your associates degree.  That is why Crowder didn't arrive on campus until late summer...he had to wrap up his degree.

Further clarification on Buycks...he apparently was a fine student in high school, but was given wrong advice about the "core requirements" to get NCAA eligibility.  He could have gone a year of prep school but chose the JUCO route instead.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 25, 2011, 10:13:19 PM
JUCO PG Jeremy Jones to Kansas State. MU had interest. York on an unofficial to Kansas this weekend. 
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: shoothoops on April 25, 2011, 10:17:23 PM
...York was on an unofficial at Notre Dame this week and he'll be visiting Washington soon as well.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: GGGG on April 27, 2011, 08:24:41 AM
Juwan Staten transferred to Penn State.  Not sure if Marquette was ever interested.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 27, 2011, 08:53:12 AM
Murray to visit WVU this weekend (just to keep the list updated even though he is a deadender for MU at this point).

http://www.wvupressbox.com/basketball/la-salle-transfer-murray-to-visit-west-virginia-read-more-httpwww-philly-comphillysportscolleges120759619-htmlixzz1kje15spu-watch-sports-videos-you-wont-find-anywhere-else/
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: bamamarquettefan on April 27, 2011, 09:32:27 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 25, 2011, 07:51:31 AM
Further clarification on Buycks...he apparently was a fine student in high school, but was given wrong advice about the "core requirements" to get NCAA eligibility.  He could have gone a year of prep school but chose the JUCO route instead.

I am bummed to learn that about Buycks.  I certainly would rather have him coming back for next year having done one year of prep school to leave himself four at Marquette - then we wouldn't need to worry about the last schollier or banking one.  I guess I'll feel the same way about Cadougan's 14-minute freshman season in two years.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: 94Warrior on May 03, 2011, 01:46:32 PM
Quote from: TedBaxter on April 18, 2011, 07:47:24 PM
I know that Buzz know's what he's doing and there isn't much out there right now.  I just watched some game video of one of the hottest names out there and he simply isn't good enough for a program like Marquette.

To be honest, I liked the Wyoming transfer M'Baye, but he opted for Oklahoma this weekend and I might take the Canadian kid who's leaving Louisiana Tech with one year left and immediate eligibility, but other than that, there just isn't anyone who I think is worth it, but that's me.


Are you talking about Kadeem Coleby?  A 6-9 PF who was a teammate of Junior's on the Canada Grassroots team?  If so, does anybody know anything about him?  A one-year big with immediate eligibility would be perfect.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: MUcookie30 on May 03, 2011, 02:04:41 PM
I think he's talking about Olu Ashaolu from Louisiana Tech

http://www.latechsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ashaolu_olu00.html
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: brewcity77 on May 03, 2011, 02:44:04 PM
Quote from: MUcookie30 on May 03, 2011, 02:04:41 PM
I think he's talking about Olu Ashaolu from Louisiana Tech

http://www.latechsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ashaolu_olu00.html

I think that would be the best thing we can do with that last scholarship. Adding another senior presence who can help out at the four would be great. He averaged 14.2 ppg and 9.4 rpg as a junior. He can hit the three a bit (29.3%), though he's very foul prone -- he fouled out 11 times in 32 games.

Still, an experienced player to provide some strength off the bench behind Crowder without taking up a scholarship for 2012-13 is about as perfect as we could hope for. Here's hoping Cadougan and Buzz can convince him to spend a year at Marquette before he ends his NCAA career.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: muball on May 03, 2011, 03:03:58 PM
yes he is the player I was referencing. Would be a great get for one year and then a big for 2012 with whom we have.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: kmwtrucks on May 03, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
Things I like about Olu: A Great athlete and Rebounder, Gets to the FT line and shoots the ball at high % .530.  Foul's and TO's are a little high.

Olu did put his name in for the draft, also with Wilson and Crowder I wonder if he would be willing to come off the bench.  

My thought might also be if EW is not going to be ready for full contact practice by Mid Oct, Maybe you would Medical redshirt him, he really needs the summer and fall to work on his game.  You would bring Olu in to take his spot in the rotation.  Look how much CO improved in His Medical redshirt year.

Just a thought, I have no idea how long of a recovery EW has till he is at full strength.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: 94Warrior on May 03, 2011, 03:23:12 PM
MU has been talking to him.  I also read that he recently visited Xavier.

http://iowastate.scout.com/2/1064633.html
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 recruit wish list updated with 15 signees and 1 new huge prospect
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 03, 2011, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: kmwtrucks on May 03, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
Things I like about Olu: A Great athlete and Rebounder, Gets to the FT line and shoots the ball at high % .530.  Foul's and TO's are a little high.

Olu did put his name in for the draft, also with Wilson and Crowder I wonder if he would be willing to come off the bench.  

My thought might also be if EW is not going to be ready for full contact practice by Mid Oct, Maybe you would Medical redshirt him, he really needs the summer and fall to work on his game.  You would bring Olu in to take his spot in the rotation.  Look how much CO improved in His Medical redshirt year.

Just a thought, I have no idea how long of a recovery EW has till he is at full strength.

I agree - EW made progress last year but he could be the guy left out depending on how long his recovery takes. A medical redshirt year might do him wonders.
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