Juan was 100 on ESPN's top 100. He is not pleased with that that, and is going to come in with a chip on his shoulder, He tweeted earlier "I dont care about rankings, they don't mean anything. I will bust alot of these "top25" guys. But at the same time I feel disrespected. 100?"
Also I saw Mike Shaw at 88... I may be wrong, but when we were on him wasn't he alot higher than that???
The line between "chip on his shoulder" and "overinflated ego" can be a fine one.
Maybe we should just tell the kid to not feel that he is better than anyone and destroy his confidence...that sound better?
Call me crazy, but I can't see him getting more than 10-15 minutes of pt/game next season.
He is who he is. By next year at this time it won't make a damn bit of difference whether or not he was ranked 10, 100 or 1,000. I'm just saying there are two ways to read into what he said.
All college basketball players talk like him. Reading some of their twitter pages makes it so I am all about how they play only a couple of the players merit my respect off the floor. It is what it is, but I agree he sounds a bit cocky, but hopefully he uses that to push himself instead of just assuming he will be a superstar. With Buzz he will be riding pine after a missed defensive assignment...Buzz pushes freshman hard in practice, and their reward comes with playing time. If Juan wants to make something of himself next year he will have to work his butt off, otherwise hell just get little minutes like Jamail this year
Juan is a very good recruit for MU. He will spend next year adjusting to the college game and environment. Anyone expecting anything major from Juan next year is living in a dream world. Juan is a good player and recruit but he will get his limited off of the bench minutes similar to most Frosh and he'll be a much bigger factor as an upper classman. Good recruit.
Absolutely meaningless at this point. It would be hard for me to care any less about what some website considers his ranking to be. He could be the #1 ranked or the 1224th ranked player in his class and all that really truly matters is if he can have a strong positive impact on the success of this team next season. He shouldn't be worrying about this trivial nonsense and should be in the gym practicing his J.
Quote from: Bling on April 07, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
He shouldn't be worrying about this trivial nonsense and should be in the gym practicing his J.
I'm sure he's doing both.
Quote from: Bling on April 07, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
Absolutely meaningless at this point. It would be hard for me to care any less about what some website considers his ranking to be. He could be the #1 ranked or the 1224th ranked player in his class and all that really truly matters is if he can have a strong positive impact on the success of this team next season. He shouldn't be worrying about this trivial nonsense and should be in the gym practicing his J.
Vander Blue
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 07, 2011, 02:28:58 PM
He is who he is. By next year at this time it won't make a damn bit of difference whether or not he was ranked 10, 100 or 1,000. I'm just saying there are two ways to read into what he said.
A guy who has over 4,500 posts on MU Scoop should know that his ranking will matter plenty next year, at least around here, especially if he doesn't have an instant impact.
See: Blue, Vander.
I am probably 1 of 4 people that thinks without Vander's minutes off the bench we wouldn't have been where we were in March this year. Did he make huge contributions? No but he hustled played solid D, and gave DJO a rest when he needed it...I think Vander played like a freshman. If Vander develops a jumper with his driving ability he will be a beast
Quote from: jhags15 on April 07, 2011, 02:43:16 PM
I am probably 1 of 4 people that thinks without Vander's minutes off the bench we wouldn't have been where we were in March this year. Did he make huge contributions? No but he hustled played solid D, and gave DJO a rest when he needed it...I think Vander played like a freshman. If Vander develops a jumper with his driving ability he will be a beast
+1
After JFB and possibly Otule, you could make the argument that Vander was our best defender all year.
Quote from: jhags15 on April 07, 2011, 02:43:16 PM
I am probably 1 of 4 people that thinks without Vander's minutes off the bench we wouldn't have been where we were in March this year. Did he make huge contributions? No but he hustled played solid D, and gave DJO a rest when he needed it...I think Vander played like a freshman. If Vander develops a jumper with his driving ability he will be a beast
Without his energy off the bench in the 2nd half against USF and his all-around contributions against UConn, we lose both of those games, miss the tournament and the sweet 16 never would have happened.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2011, 02:42:27 PM
A guy who has over 4,500 posts on MU Scoop should know that his ranking will matter plenty next year, at least around here, especially if he doesn't have an instant impact.
See: Blue, Vander.
Heh...yeah...good point.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 07, 2011, 02:23:01 PM
The line between "chip on his shoulder" and "overinflated ego" can be a fine one.
Well said, Sultan--sort of like Obama's narcissist attitude.
Quote from: willie warrior on April 07, 2011, 02:58:28 PM
Well said, Sultan--sort of like Obama's narcissist attitude.
Really? Really? >:(
Quote from: willie warrior on April 07, 2011, 02:58:28 PM
Well said, Sultan--sort of like Obama's narcissist attitude.
Dude, seriously, don't bother reaffirming me in the future OK?
Quote from: Stuckin1977 on April 07, 2011, 02:28:22 PM
Call me crazy, but I can't see him getting more than 10-15 minutes of pt/game next season.
I do not see freshmen playing a lot for Buzz, so while I am glad to have Anderson he will not be a differnece maker next year.
please--no obama references--and back to Juan
I think I saw an ESPN piece on how few McDonalds AAs come from calif., how they tend to named by the "name" school they choose, and and how he ,Juan, is a current example...ie if he came from East coast and signed with, say a UNC...he'd be one. There seems to be many who see him as underrated---I hope they're right.
Quote from: houwarrior on April 07, 2011, 03:40:14 PM
please--no obama references--and back to Juan
I think I saw an ESPN piece on how few McDonalds AAs come from calif., how they tend to named by the "name" school they choose, and and how he ,Juan, is a current example...ie if he came from East coast and signed with, say a UNC...he'd be one. There seems to be many who see him as underrated---I hope they're right.
Cali actually has had more McDonald AAs than anyone, 82 since the game began and 28 since 2002. But that seems to be a function of the population. Per capita, California ranks well behind Virginia, Indiana, Maryland, Illinois, Mississippi and many other states.
http://statsheet.com/bhsb/mcplayers_by_state
Quote from: willie warrior on April 07, 2011, 02:58:28 PM
Well said, Sultan--sort of like Obama's narcissist attitude.
A rare interesting spring thread hijacked by a stooge.
Hussein needs to talk to these arabs and get my gas bill under control. If I have to buy one of those smart cars I'm going to be pissed.
After watching his senior highlights I think he is going to be FAR better than 100! If he plays small forward, he will have some superior skills at that position with his guard abilities. His amazing court vision translates to every level of basketball. He may not be able to do all the trick passes in the BEast, but I am sure he is going to get some real nice assists. I think he will be a superstar provided he works hard. So many players don't even realize that the best NBA guys busted their ass to get where they are. Potential means nothing if you don't work towards it....and MU makes guys work hard! The culture at MU really pushes the guys to become better.
MU is "due" for a great Freshman year. If Juan is able to be one of the better shooters on the team, he should get a lot of minutes. Even if he is only an average shooter he should see a lot, as he should be a very good defender at the 3. His tremendous combo of length and athleticism will enable him to learn on the job.....he has been described as a potential lockdown. With the way he can see the floor on offense and anticipate what guys are going to do, I am thinking he has the aptitude to do the same on defense. He looks to have a great BB IQ and that would be the ultimate X factor for a guy with his abilities.
I'll go on record and say he will end up better than 75% on the top 100.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on April 07, 2011, 04:39:09 PM
After watching his senior highlights I think he is going to be FAR better than 100! If he plays small forward, he will have some superior skills at that position with his guard abilities. His amazing court vision translates to every level of basketball. He may not be able to do all the trick passes in the BEast, but I am sure he is going to get some real nice assists. I think he will be a superstar provided he works hard. So many players don't even realize that the best NBA guys busted their ass to get where they are. Potential means nothing if you don't work towards it....and MU makes guys work hard! The culture at MU really pushes the guys to become better.
MU is "due" for a great Freshman year. If Juan is able to be one of the better shooters on the team, he should get a lot of minutes. Even if he is only an average shooter he should see a lot, as he should be a very good defender at the 3. His tremendous combo of length and athleticism will enable him to learn on the johttp://www.microsoft.com/isapi/redir.dll?prd=ie&ar=windowsmediab.....he has been described as a potential lockdown. With the way he can see the floor on offense and anticipate what guys are going to do, I am thinking he has the aptitude to do the same on defense. He looks to have a great BB IQ and that would be the ultimate X factor for a guy with his abilities.
I'll go on record and say he will end up better than 75% on the top 100.
Something about Anderson leads me to agree with this. I don't know if he'll see a lot of minutes his freshman year, but I believe he will be an early entry guy by his junior year at the latest. I don't know what it is about his game, but every time I see him, he seems to ooze star quality. Of all the guys on our current roster and incoming over the next 2 years, something tells me he will end up being the best of the bunch.
I could end up completely off-base on this, maybe he turns out to be an average player, a bust, or transfers after his sophomore year because he can't get minutes, but as of right now, he seems like a special kid. I expect him to play a big role in putting Marquette right back on the college basketball map in the next 2-3 years.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 07, 2011, 04:54:20 PM
Something about Anderson leads me to agree with this. I don't know if he'll see a lot of minutes his freshman year, but I believe he will be an early entry guy by his junior year at the latest. I don't know what it is about his game, but every time I see him, he seems to ooze star quality. Of all the guys on our current roster and incoming over the next 2 years, something tells me he will end up being the best of the bunch.
I could end up completely off-base on this, maybe he turns out to be an average player, a bust, or transfers after his sophomore year because he can't get minutes, but as of right now, he seems like a special kid. I expect him to play a big role in putting Marquette right back on the college basketball map in the next 2-3 years.
So in summary, he might be a super star early entry kid, or he might be a bust. I guess you've covered your bases...
Just kidding. I'm excited about his arrival too.
Espn's ratings are the least accurate predictor.he apparently has grown since being rated much higher by the scout boards, but if espn ticked him off fine.
Quote from: PJDunn on April 07, 2011, 04:23:43 PM
A rare interesting spring thread hijacked by a stooge.
And you sir are a name caller who has no real case!
Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 07, 2011, 05:04:15 PM
So in summary, he might be a super star early entry kid, or he might be a bust. I guess you've covered your bases...
Just kidding. I'm excited about his arrival too.
;D
Moreso I'm saying that I think he'll be a superstar early entry kid, but if I'm wrong, he could be a bust and I'll eat crow ;)
Quote from: willie warrior on April 07, 2011, 05:42:20 PM
And you sir are a name caller who has no real case!
Oh, he has a case. Open and shut...you are a stooge. Which is why even when you support someone's opinion, they ask you not to.
Anyhow, I don't have a problem with what the kid said. In Buzz's world,"if you don't have a chip on your shoulder he'll put one there," and I hope the kid is ultra competitive with a chip on his shoulder. Buzz is capable of teaching his kids how to carry that chip in a way that serves a valid purpose while still ensuring his players are respectful and appropriate. I believe he'll do the same with Juan.
Quote from: avid1010 on April 07, 2011, 06:04:54 PM
Oh, he has a case. Open and shut...you are a stooge. Which is why even when you support someone's opinion, they ask you not to.
Anyhow, I don't have a problem with what the kid said. In Buzz's world,"if you don't have a chip on your shoulder he'll put one there," and I hope the kid is ultra competitive with a chip on his shoulder. Buzz is capable of teaching his kids how to carry that chip in a way that serves a valid purpose while still ensuring his players are respectful and appropriate. I believe he'll do the same with Juan.
Maybe he should have a chip on both shoulders. Then he'd be well-balanced.
Or maybe Ewill's shoulder problem is related to a similar chip?
Was just listening to a podcast of one of Rivals' main national analysts on Kansas City radio station today (Eric Bossi), and he named Juan his sleeper of the 2011 class.
Haven't we learned from the VB freshman year experience?
Let Juan establish expectations based on his play next year. I don't want the guys career established by willie's expectations. We should just let the kid play. How the F does anyone know if he is an early entrant at this point. He is an ESPN Top 100.
Wes was RSCI 61. He didn't blow anyone away until his senior year. Let it come to him.
Quote from: ringout on April 08, 2011, 11:01:26 AM
Haven't we learned from the VB freshman year experience?
Let Juan establish expectations based on his play next year. I don't want the guys career established by willie's expectations. We should just let the kid play. How the F does anyone know if he is an early entrant at this point. He is an ESPN Top 100.
Wes was RSCI 61. He didn't blow anyone away until his senior year. Let it come to him.
Uh-oh. Cue the "Buzz finally freed him from the strangles of Crean's offense" posts...
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 08, 2011, 11:48:54 AM
Uh-oh. Cue the "Buzz finally freed him from the strangles of Crean's offense" posts...
I wasn't going there at all. My only point was that he played his best hoop as a senior. He didn't show everything he had as a freshman.
Quote from: ringout on April 08, 2011, 12:43:55 PM
I wasn't going there at all. My only point was that he played his best hoop as a senior. He didn't show everything he had as a freshman.
But after his freshman year, I was convinced that he had the highest ceiling as an NBA player of the Three Amigos, and I know I wasn't alone in that. He may have had the least impressive numbers in their first three seasons, but I think most people that watched the three could look at his frame, athleticism, and all-around abilities and see that if anyone of them was destined to have a long and successful NBA career, it would be Matthews, despite him not having the numbers of James or McNeal.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 08, 2011, 03:02:07 PM
But after his freshman year, I was convinced that he had the highest ceiling as an NBA player of the Three Amigos, and I know I wasn't alone in that. He may have had the least impressive numbers in their first three seasons, but I think most people that watched the three could look at his frame, athleticism, and all-around abilities and see that if anyone of them was destined to have a long and successful NBA career, it would be Matthews, despite him not having the numbers of James or McNeal.
I don't disagree
I guess it takes Juan to know Juan
Does he have the ability to take people Juan on Juan?
Isn't it Juan-derful that he will be playing for the Warriors next year? I also predict that MU will have more Juans than losses during his career in MKE.