That's all Buzz would have to say to stop schools from falling over themselves on the way to his house in The Quon. But, he's not saying that, is he?
Of course he won't say that. He is as loyal as the next biggest paycheck. Isn't that the American way? Wouldn't you want to make an extra mil a year so you can retire after you fail in 4 years as opposed to 8?
But he also cannot be hostage to every rumor and be required to rush to a camera and respond. Otherwise, he allows other schools to control him. Start a rumor and watch Buzz jump through hoops.
I was about to post a similar question...
How many days need to go by / articles published with Buzz to OU without a declaration by Buzz that he is staying that it likely is true...
Seems like a time (approaching a big NCAA game, actively recruiting season) that you would want to put a stop on the rumors before they affect your team and recruits...
And don't say he won't say that because he is leveraging for money - he can do that while saying he is staying - plenty of schools have extended a coach's contract quickly and squelched the "he is leaving" rumor quickly...
starting to think buzz is gone...
He will not respond until MU is done in the tourny. Actually, the better MU does, the more likely he will go, as his stock will rise, kind of a catch 22
I'll bet he just downloaded "Surrey With The Fringe On Top," "Oh What A Beautiful Mornin'," and "Some People Say We're In Love," on his IPod.
If a school really wants buzz this tourney won't effect the outcome of their decision to hire him.
It seems they are interested, Basically its up to buzz and what he wants to do with his family.
Interesting, would we take another final four run and lose Buzz or a one and done and he stays?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2011, 07:40:47 PM
That's all Buzz would have to say to stop schools from falling over themselves on the way to his house in The Quon. But, he's not saying that, is he?
IT'S A BUSINESS!!!!! Think otherwise and you will be sorely disappointed.
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Anyway, I'll answer my own ?, I'll take the final four run anyday, they are too hard to come by.
Quote from: [Mu]EngiNerd on March 15, 2011, 07:54:30 PM
If a school really wants buzz this tourney won't effect the outcome of their decision to hire him.
It seems they are interested, Basically its up to buzz and what he wants to do with his family.
I wouldn't go that far. If Marquette gets to at least the Sweet 16, it could make a school increase their interest in Buzz from say 2nd-3rd on their list to the top.
That said, bottom line is so long as we keep making the NCAA Tournament with him as the coach, he keeps recruiting well, kids keep graduating, and there continues to be no off the court problems, other schools will at the very least look into luring him away as jobs open up at schools with deep pockets.
Then it will simply be up to Buzz. That's life for fans of the non-elite programs in college sports be it basketball or football. When your team wins, the coach will often become intriguing to other programs with money who aren't winning.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2011, 07:51:53 PM
I'll bet he just downloaded "Surrey With The Fringe On Top," "Oh What A Beautiful Mornin'," and "Some People Say We're In Love," on his IPod.
Don't forget "Kansas City," as the wide eyed-wonderment from Will Parker seems more Buzz's style.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2011, 07:40:47 PM
That's all Buzz would have to say to stop schools from falling over themselves on the way to his house in The Quon. But, he's not saying that, is he?
That's not true .. anybody can say something like this but when a subject responds to rumors and speculation, it simply creates more rumors and speculation. Public silence for Buzz is the best choice here, along with private straight-talk with his report-to chain, while his media team works behind the scenes to manage some of the pundits. Don't add any fuel to the fire.
Get a grip people! His primary loyalty should first & foremost be to his family. If he is unwilling to make a statement at this time for whatever reason, I'm OK with that. No one knows what he's said to the team and/or university, if anything, which is where his next loyalties should lie. We don't know all the competing pressures on him. If he stays, that's great. If he goes - so long as he does it in the proper manner unlike his predecessor - that's OK also. Personally, I have a hard time seeing him go and would prefer he staty. I have a harder time seeing these high end programs ponying up the big cash to hire him given his lack of any track record in the Tourney. (If you're reading Buzz, that's not a criticism but an observation. I'd hate to think it was my post that pushed him over the edge!)
really - how does it fuel to the fire by saying - "I love it here, I am not going anywhere"
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 15, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
really - how does it fuel to the fire by saying - "I love it here, I am not going anywhere"
that won't stop anybody else from speculating ... and the next time his name comes up he'd be on the hook to respond
again? Buzz would need to hold weekly off-season speculation comment days anytime another coach in the Southeast or Southwest is canned.
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 15, 2011, 08:30:08 PM
That's not true .. anybody can say something like this but when a subject responds to rumors and speculation, it simply creates more rumors and speculation. Public silence for Buzz is the best choice here, along with private straight-talk with his report-to chain, while his media team works behind the scenes to manage some of the pundits. Don't add any fuel to the fire.
I think he could stop the questions if he wanted to....the real question is why doesn't he? Is he after more money from MU? Is he thinking about leaving MU? Does he want to be able to look at a recruit next time he's in a battle for a kid with an Oklahoma, Alabama or TT and say that they wanted him to be their coach, but he stayed at MU because it's a better place? Does he want the attention so when a job like an Indiana opens up he can jump ship to a historic program? When the season is over we'll have a good feeling for if Buzz is an honest man, or a con man worse than the likes of TC. Should be interesting.
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 15, 2011, 08:33:19 PM
that won't stop anybody else from speculating ... and the next time his name comes up he'd be on the hook to respond again? Buzz would need to hold weekly off-season speculation comment days anytime another coach in the Southeast or Southwest is canned.
He hasn't refused to respond to the question, and if you think doing so stops the media from answering questions I'm happy you're not working PR for me!
Quote from: avid1010 on March 15, 2011, 08:38:41 PM
I think he could stop the questions if he wanted to....the real question is why doesn't he?
If you figure out how to stop reporters from speculating you'll win some kind of Nobel-ish prize. It's not happening -- even if Buzz offered A Statement, vSpring2011.
Comments and commentary like this is why these pundits get paid. Conflict is their motivation (it's what makes for good copy). My guess is Buzz is too busy game planning to care about stuff like this.
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 15, 2011, 08:43:59 PM
If you figure out how to stop reporters from speculating you'll win some kind of Nobel-ish prize. It's not happening -- even if Buzz offered A Statement, vSpring2011.
Comments and commentary like this is why these pundits get paid. Conflict is their motivation (it's what makes for good copy). My guess is Buzz is too busy game planning to care about stuff like this.
You're advocating for Buzz to use "public silence" yet I don't see Buzz doing so. lf he said that he would be at MU as long as they will have him, and he'll never speak to the question again, and followed through with that public silence I'd be happy. His current actions are not those of public silence by any means.
Now you're gettin' it.
Quote from: avid1010 on March 15, 2011, 09:01:15 PM
You're advocating for Buzz to use "public silence" yet I don't see Buzz doing so. lf he said that he would be at MU as long as they will have him, and he'll never speak to the question again, and followed through with that public silence I'd be happy. His current actions are not those of public silence by any means.
Right, those were strange comments to Rosiak in the update tonight, no doubt. I'm surprised Buzz didn't simply rely on his own statement on this subject
to the same reporter from last year (the same one he repeats at alumni gatherings).
"I'll be here as long as they'll have me here."http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/88881442.html (http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/88881442.html)
Maybe that's not the case anymore? Either way, the story certainly gets more legs locally and beyond.
LOL
cause he wants to get paid or he wants to leave. We'll find out soon enough.
This sucks man...terrible timing of course for the players who worked their asses off and have to deal with all this crap. Really pisses me off.
Can all of this crap be moved to a thread or two? It's all conjecture fueled by a few alarmist posters and basketball "experts." There's a game Friday and I'm getting sick of reading all of this BS.
How many of you jokers need to start a new thread on the same non-topic?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2011, 07:40:47 PM
That's all Buzz would have to say to stop schools from falling over themselves on the way to his house in The Quon. But, he's not saying that, is he?
Did you get hit with a negative stick back in the 60's?
Quote from: avid1010 on March 15, 2011, 08:38:41 PM
I think he could stop the questions if he wanted to....the real question is why doesn't he? Is he after more money from MU? Is he thinking about leaving MU? Does he want to be able to look at a recruit next time he's in a battle for a kid with an Oklahoma, Alabama or TT and say that they wanted him to be their coach, but he stayed at MU because it's a better place? Does he want the attention so when a job like an Indiana opens up he can jump ship to a historic program? When the season is over we'll have a good feeling for if Buzz is an honest man, or a con man worse than the likes of TC. Should be interesting.
Why would he? Making a statement like that serves no real benefit.
If he makes it, we'll just have to read how coaches are not to be trusted, about Gary Barnett and other coaches who have made such statements later left, etc.
And if he makes it, circumstances change and then he leaves, then he becomes an all-time liar.
It's a no-win situation.
I mean, read your own post. You've already declared him a potential con man, and he hasn't even answered the question. God forbid he answers the question then changes his mind.
I like Buzz and very much hope he stays. But at the end of the day, he'll do what he thinks is best for himself and his family - as any husband and father should - not what makes a particular college's basketball fans happy. The next college to find a coach who thinks otherwise will be the first.
If that upsets you or anyone else, I'm willing to bet he can live with it.
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 15, 2011, 08:30:08 PM
That's not true .. anybody can say something like this but when a subject responds to rumors and speculation, it simply creates more rumors and speculation. Public silence for Buzz is the best choice here, along with private straight-talk with his report-to chain, while his media team works behind the scenes to manage some of the pundits. Don't add any fuel to the fire.
best response to this topic all day. no more responses are required.
He made the statement last year, and now he's accountable to it. That's my feelings.
I think the "what's best for my family" thing is a cop-out.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 15, 2011, 09:24:56 PM
Why would he? Making a statement like that serves no real benefit.
If he makes it, we'll just have to read how coaches are not to be trusted, about Gary Barnett and other coaches who have made such statements later left, etc.
And if he makes it, circumstances change and then he leaves, then he becomes an all-time liar.
It's a no-win situation.
I mean, read your own post. You've already declared him a potential con man, and he hasn't even answered the question. God forbid he answers the question then changes his mind.
I like Buzz and very much hope he stays. But at the end of the day, he'll do what he thinks is best for himself and his family - as any husband and father should - not what makes a particular college's basketball fans happy. The next college to find a coach who thinks otherwise will be the first.
If that upsets you or anyone else, I'm willing to bet he can live with it.
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 15, 2011, 07:50:49 PM
I was about to post a similar question...
How many days need to go by / articles published with Buzz to OU without a declaration by Buzz that he is staying that it likely is true...
Seems like a time (approaching a big NCAA game, actively recruiting season) that you would want to put a stop on the rumors before they affect your team and recruits...
And don't say he won't say that because he is leveraging for money - he can do that while saying he is staying - plenty of schools have extended a coach's contract quickly and squelched the "he is leaving" rumor quickly...
starting to think buzz is gone...
What? In Buzz we trust?
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 15, 2011, 09:14:38 PM
cause he wants to get paid or he wants to leave. We'll find out soon enough.
Exactly, and as I pointed out yesterday, I
think he only has three years left on his deal with MU. What does that mean? Unless he already received one I am unaware of, an extension should be coming soon, to at least get him over 4 years. Regardless of what happens, Buzz will be doing some negotiating in the coming weeks. Why on earth would the guy not leverage offers/interest to maximize what he stands to make, whether he wants to look at those other jobs or not?
It doesn't matter what he says to any of us. How he handles things with the team and with Cottingham now, or when any of this actually comes to a head, are the only things that matter.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 15, 2011, 09:24:56 PM
Why would he? Making a statement like that serves no real benefit.
If he makes it, we'll just have to read how coaches are not to be trusted, about Gary Barnett and other coaches who have made such statements later left, etc.
And if he makes it, circumstances change and then he leaves, then he becomes an all-time liar.
It's a no-win situation.
I mean, read your own post. You've already declared him a potential con man, and he hasn't even answered the question. God forbid he answers the question then changes his mind.
I like Buzz and very much hope he stays. But at the end of the day, he'll do what he thinks is best for himself and his family - as any husband and father should - not what makes a particular college's basketball fans happy. The next college to find a coach who thinks otherwise will be the first.
If that upsets you or anyone else, I'm willing to bet he can live with it.
This is exactly right. Roy Williams agonized rather publically about taking the UNC job the second time it was offered to him. He was up-front and honest. He told everyone how much Kansas meant to him.
Yet he was still raked over the coals when he chose to go to UNC. Coaches speak in obscurities for a reason.
Last year's jsonline story reported that Buzz has a six-year rollover contract.
Quote from: BrewCity on March 16, 2011, 08:40:00 AM
Last year's jsonline story reported that Buzz has a six-year rollover contract.
No, his defensive scheme is rollover.
Quote from: groove on March 16, 2011, 08:43:22 AM
No, his defensive scheme is rollover.
Just stop posting.
Quote from: groove on March 16, 2011, 08:43:22 AM
No, his defensive scheme is rollover.
Ok, that was pretty good. Well played.
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 15, 2011, 09:14:38 PM
cause he wants to get paid or he wants to leave. We'll find out soon enough.
Absolutely correct. One thing is certain, he will get paid more.
This is a free market country. I find it amusing everyone's upset he does not make "loyalty" statements. This is how the game works. If you are successful you have leverage. If not, oh well. Buzz is having success and using his leverage, more power to him.
My feeling is Buzz will remain at Marquette and his salary will get very close to $2mm.
The people on this board who seem to think that Buzz owes them something in the form of constant repudiation of every possible rumor are like 15-year-old girls freaking out wondering "WHY WON'T HE CALLLLLLLLLL?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!"
Seriously guys, give it a rest. If Buzz stays, you look like a bunch of Chicken Littles. If Buzz goes, you don't get bonus points for the degree of spaz to which you predicted.
Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on March 16, 2011, 12:36:23 PM
The people on this board who seem to think that Buzz owes them something in the form of constant repudiation of every possible rumor are like 15-year-old girls freaking out wondering "WHY WON'T HE CALLLLLLLLLL?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!"
Seriously guys, give it a rest. If Buzz stays, you look like a bunch of Chicken Littles. If Buzz goes, you don't get bonus points for the degree of spaz to which you predicted.
If he'd just call and tell us how he feels we wouldn't need to overreact though. So really it's his fault.
Quote from: groove on March 16, 2011, 08:43:22 AM
No, his defensive scheme is rollover.
LOL - laughed at work earlier & wanted to make sure you got credit when I got home!
Wait isn't there some sort of tournament going on...?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 15, 2011, 07:51:53 PM
I'll bet he just downloaded "Surrey With The Fringe On Top," "Oh What A Beautiful Mornin'," and "Some People Say We're In Love," on his IPod.
...where the wind comes sweeping down the plain...
Quote from: MikeyT42 on March 15, 2011, 09:23:56 PM
Did you get hit with a negative stick back in the 60's?
or a Thai Stick in the 70's?