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Wow. Let the next round of rumors begin.
Weren't we on Cameron Clark? http://espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=51487
Quote from: HoopsMalone on March 14, 2011, 12:07:32 PM
Weren't we on Cameron Clark? http://espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=51487
Yes, we were. Didn't we take a transfer late last year?
No to besmirch our head coach, but I suspect OU is going to aim a whole bunch higher than Buzz, at least at first.
Billy Gillespie would be the perfect fit for that job, personal issues aside.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2011, 12:09:54 PM
No to besmirch our head coach, but I suspect OU is going to aim a whole bunch higher than Buzz, at least at first.
Chicos, how did you get a hold of Pakuni's account? ::)
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 14, 2011, 12:11:31 PM
Chicos, how did you get a hold of Pakuni's account? ::)
It required behavior you might find squirmy.
Buzz to Sooners! /KNEEJERK RUMOR-MONGER ANDY KATZ
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 14, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
Buzz to Sooners! /KNEEJERK RUMOR-MONGER ANDY KATZ
What if either Arkansas or Oklahoma goes after (and lands) Turgeon?
I really don't see Buzz's body of work being compelling enough for Oklahoma to pick up Buzz they took a chance on Capel out of VCU after they upset Duke I believe and that team's performance as a whole during his short tenure. The guy is young as is Buzz (especially in coaching tenure) and I would think OK is going for someone a little more experienced because they don't wanna get screwed with a "prospect coach" which I still think Buzz has proven to be.
Quote from: HoopsMalone on March 14, 2011, 12:07:32 PM
Weren't we on Cameron Clark? http://espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=51487
We sure were in on Cameron Clark..he chose OU over us..as simple as that..
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 14, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
Buzz to Sooners! /KNEEJERK RUMOR-MONGER ANDY KATZ
I had a hard time taking the Arkansas rumor seriously, but Oklahoma, I have to think is at least a remote possibility.
If we get to the sweet 16, Buzz might become a frontrunner. Go Xavier.
Quote from: SoCalwarrior on March 14, 2011, 01:08:26 PM
If we get to the sweet 16, Buzz might become a frontrunner. Go Xavier.
ouch!
Quote from: SoCalwarrior on March 14, 2011, 01:08:26 PM
If we get to the sweet 16, Buzz might become a frontrunner. Go Xavier.
This is good ... and if MU pays to keep him (and we do pay), then he should be able to go for the next level of recruit.
Multiple McDonald's AA anyone? Jamie Dixon with no hair?
Quote from: DrDestiny911 on March 14, 2011, 12:56:28 PM
I really don't see Buzz's body of work being compelling enough for Oklahoma to pick up Buzz they took a chance on Capel out of VCU after they upset Duke I believe and that team's performance as a whole during his short tenure.
No Anthony Grant was at VCU when they beat Duke.
They just made the Elite 8 three years ago.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 14, 2011, 12:11:31 PM
Chicos, how did you get a hold of Pakuni's account? ::)
;)
In many respects, I think Pakuni is right. We can argue ad nauseum about what was left in the cupboard, whether we needed to take as many JUCOs, etc, etc.
A fan from afar is going to see his record dropping each of the three years, only one NCAA tournament win, declining finishes in the conference and they're going to question if we're heading the wrong direction. It's how fans operate. So I think many fans will have that point of view. Whether Oklahoma does, who knows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Williams
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2011, 01:28:28 PM
No Anthony Grant was at VCU when they beat Duke.
They just made the Elite 8 three years ago.
I'm pretty sure they didn't make the Elite Eight three years ago.
Regardless, the team that beat Duke was coached by Grant, but they were Capel's players.
Just watched Brad Galli's interview with Buzz in the big apple. Anything is possible, but I just don't see that guy in the interview leaving. Probably naivete on my part.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2011, 01:34:42 PM
I'm pretty sure they didn't make the Elite Eight three years ago.
Actually it was only two years ago. They lost to UNC the year that the Heels beat Michigan State in the final.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 14, 2011, 01:37:49 PM
Actually it was only two years ago. They lost to UNC the year that the Heels beat Michigan State in the final.
OK, I think we're talking about different teams.
When you wrote about Anthony Grant at VCU an then said "they were in the Elite Eight three years ago" I presumed the "they" was VCU. I'm guessing you meant Oklahoma, right?
Heh...yeah. Sorry about that.
I wonder how many schools are calling Todd Mayo and saying: "Did you hear what Andy Katz is saying?"
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 14, 2011, 01:49:21 PM
I wonder how many schools are calling Todd Mayo and saying: "Did you hear what Andy Katz is saying?"
What are you saying, that Bo is now recruiting Mayo?
I really don't need teal for that, do I?
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 14, 2011, 01:49:21 PM
I wonder how many schools are calling Todd Mayo and saying: "Did you hear what Andy Katz is saying?"
Couldn't find the Katz writeup, what is he saying?
What is it about schools--or maybe its fanbases--that think they can hire a surefire coach? How many recent coaches have had 3-5 successful years (and I mean ONLY 3-5 years) somewhere and have gone on to quickly succeed at a higher profile school?
It seems like what we are seeing is guys that had 'flash in the pan' success for one year (maybe 2) and now are getting fired--Keno, Capel, Pelphrey.
I really can't think of recent coaches who had decent short-term success at one school and went on to higher profile schools and continued that trend immediately. Bill Self is probably the best (only?) example. (And, please, don't let this become a conversation about Crean.)
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2011, 02:13:07 PM
Couldn't find the Katz writeup, what is he saying?
I was going with lab_warrior's post.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 14, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
Buzz to Sooners! /KNEEJERK RUMOR-MONGER ANDY KATZ
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2011, 02:13:07 PM
Couldn't find the Katz writeup, what is he saying?
From Katz's article on Pelphrey dismissal:
Arkansas is expected to go after Missouri coach Mike Anderson, a former assistant under Nolan Richardson when he won the national title in 1994.
If Anderson turns the job down, Marquette coach Buzz Williams, who has Arkansas ties, is expected to be high on Long's list. If they can't land Williams, the Hogs will look for another established head coach.
Arkansas is willing to pay a high dollar amount to compete with Kentucky and Florida in the SEC. Arkansas has long been considered the job with the second-most passionate basketball fan base in the SEC behind Kentucky.
ESPN.com's senior college basketball writer Andy Katz contributed to this report. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 14, 2011, 03:11:17 PM
From Katz's article on Pelphrey dismissal:
Arkansas is expected to go after Missouri coach Mike Anderson, a former assistant under Nolan Richardson when he won the national title in 1994.
If Anderson turns the job down, Marquette coach Buzz Williams, who has Arkansas ties, is expected to be high on Long's list. If they can't land Williams, the Hogs will look for another established head coach.
Arkansas is willing to pay a high dollar amount to compete with Kentucky and Florida in the SEC. Arkansas has long been considered the job with the second-most passionate basketball fan base in the SEC behind Kentucky.
Thanks, saw that one. Thought there was another on the Oklahoma vacancy.
ESPN.com's senior college basketball writer Andy Katz contributed to this report. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 14, 2011, 03:11:17 PM
From Katz's article on Pelphrey dismissal:
Arkansas is expected to go after Missouri coach Mike Anderson, a former assistant under Nolan Richardson when he won the national title in 1994.
If Anderson turns the job down, Marquette coach Buzz Williams, who has Arkansas ties, is expected to be high on Long's list. If they can't land Williams, the Hogs will look for another established head coach.
Arkansas is willing to pay a high dollar amount to compete with Kentucky and Florida in the SEC. Arkansas has long been considered the job with the second-most passionate basketball fan base in the SEC behind Kentucky.
ESPN.com's senior college basketball writer Andy Katz contributed to this report. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
I love Buzz and I think he has tremendous potential. But has he done enough in his three years at MU for other power conference teams to be willing to "break the bank" to get him?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2011, 01:34:11 PM
;)
In many respects, I think Pakuni is right. We can argue ad nauseum about what was left in the cupboard, whether we needed to take as many JUCOs, etc, etc.
A fan from afar is going to see his record dropping each of the three years, only one NCAA tournament win, declining finishes in the conference and they're going to question if we're heading the wrong direction. It's how fans operate. So I think many fans will have that point of view. Whether Oklahoma does, who knows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Williams
If that's how Oklahoma and Arkansas fans view Buzz, i just hope then that their university AD's also feel the same because that means they won't even consider going after our head coach.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 14, 2011, 03:16:42 PM
I love Buzz and I think he has tremendous potential. But has he done enough in his three years at MU for other power conference teams to be willing to "break the bank" to get him?
Probably not, but if they get rejected by their 1st, 2nd, and maybe 3rd choices, things can quickly get dicey and it usually takes extra money to lure away a coach from a job at a major conference school. It's not like Buzz is coaching at UWM with a 500K salary to where say 1.1 million per would be viewed as a huge increase in salary.
Anyone have ESPN Insider?
I'd love to know what it says here:
No Billy Clyde in Norman?
Oklahoma Sooners
Why one shouldn't believe the Buzz Williams hype
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/features/rumors?date=20110314&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2ffeatures%2frumors%3fdate%3d20110314
I think espn insider is quoting this Dallas newspaper story.
Billy Gillispie has had conversations with officials at Texas Tech concerning him replacing Pat Knight as basketball coach; but the job has not yet been offered to him, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
Gillispie has also had informal contact about the jobs at Arkansas and just-opened Oklahoma. The source said, however, that Arkansas has already had face-to-face contact with and is close to hiring Minnesota coach Tubby Smith.
Arkansas fired John Pelfrey on Sunday.
Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/03/14/2920337/texas-tech-talking-to-gillispie.html#ixzz1Gc84tPR6
Quote from: kmwtrucks on March 14, 2011, 04:08:55 PM
I think espn insider is quoting this Dallas newspaper story.
Billy Gillispie has had conversations with officials at Texas Tech concerning him replacing Pat Knight as basketball coach; but the job has not yet been offered to him, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
Gillispie has also had informal contact about the jobs at Arkansas and just-opened Oklahoma. The source said, however, that Arkansas has already had face-to-face contact with and is close to hiring Minnesota coach Tubby Smith.
Arkansas fired John Pelfrey on Sunday.
Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/03/14/2920337/texas-tech-talking-to-gillispie.html#ixzz1Gc84tPR6
Wow, one season with Mwabke was all it took?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2011, 04:05:29 PM
Anyone have ESPN Insider?
I'd love to know what it says here:
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/features/rumors?date=20110314&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2ffeatures%2frumors%3fdate%3d20110314
It says that Goodman on Fox is speculating that OU would take a long look at Buzz. The report then goes on to say Buzz to OU may not be likely because while Buzz does have connections in the south, he is doing a good job "making headway" at Marquette and has a great recruiting class coming in.
Gillispie has a far more impressive resume than Buzz at this point....sounds like he's gotten clean.
TT, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Georgia Tech jobs all open, if Buzz stays this year we can be pretty confident he'll be here for a good while.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2011, 04:05:29 PM
Anyone have ESPN Insider?
I'd love to know what it says here:
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/features/rumors?date=20110314&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2ffeatures%2frumors%3fdate%3d20110314
Here's the part about buzz...
QuoteJeff Goodman of FoxSports.com expects OU to take a hard look at Marquette's Buzz Williams (whose name has been mentioned in connection with the Arkansas and Texas Tech openings). However, we are hesitant about this name; Williams has the connections to Texas, Oklahoma and the rest of the southwest region but has made major headway at Marquette (and has a very strong recruiting class). Combined with the returning players, there seems to be a better chance that Williams stays in Milwaukee.
ANDY KATZ MADLIBS EVERYONE. Now, EVERYONE can make up speculative, unfounded bulls*** rumors, and post it. And...GO!
_______ is expected to go after _______ coach _______, a former assistant under _______ when he won
(school) (school) (person) (person)
_______.
(event)
If _______ turns the job down, _______ coach _______, who has _______ ties, is expected to be high on the
(person) (school) (person) (nickname)
list. If they can't land _______, the _______ will look for another established head coach.
(person) (nickname)
_______ is willing to pay a high dollar amount to compete with _______ and _______ in the _______
(school) (school) (school) (conference)
conference. _______ has long been considered the job with the second-most passionate basketball fan base
(school)
in the conference behind _______.
(school)
HAHAHAHA--- Hilarious lab warrior.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 14, 2011, 04:30:21 PM
ANDY KATZ MADLIBS EVERYONE. Now, EVERYONE can make up speculative, unfounded bulls*** rumors, and post it. And...GO!
_______ is expected to go after _______ coach _______, a former assistant under _______ when he won
(school) (school) (person) (person)
_______.
(event)
If _______ turns the job down, _______ coach _______, who has _______ ties, is expected to be high on the
(person) (school) (person) (nickname)
list. If they can't land _______, the _______ will look for another established head coach.
(person) (nickname)
_______ is willing to pay a high dollar amount to compete with _______ and _______ in the _______
(school) (school) (school) (conference)
conference. _______ has long been considered the job with the second-most passionate basketball fan base
(school)
in the conference behind _______.
(school)
Early candidate for post of the year 2011. Well done
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 14, 2011, 04:30:21 PM
ANDY KATZ MADLIBS EVERYONE. Now, EVERYONE can make up speculative, unfounded bulls*** rumors, and post it. And...GO!
_______ is expected to go after _______ coach _______, a former assistant under _______ when he won
(school) (school) (person) (person)
_______.
(event)
If _______ turns the job down, _______ coach _______, who has _______ ties, is expected to be high on the
(person) (school) (person) (nickname)
list. If they can't land _______, the _______ will look for another established head coach.
(person) (nickname)
_______ is willing to pay a high dollar amount to compete with _______ and _______ in the _______
(school) (school) (school) (conference)
conference. _______ has long been considered the job with the second-most passionate basketball fan base
(school)
in the conference behind _______.
(big name school)
Now its perfect.
I would gladly take Cameron Clark on this team if he decided to leave OU. Would be a perfect start to our '12 class. He did some very nice things for the Sooners this past season. However, now maybe Buzz will just come to him.
Quote from: fanofTR on March 14, 2011, 07:58:03 PM
I would gladly take Cameron Clark on this team if he decided to leave OU. Would be a perfect start to our '12 class. He did some very nice things for the Sooners this past season. However, now maybe Buzz will just come to him.
Just to be fair, Jamal Ferguson (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/115688/jamal-ferguson) already got our '12 class kick started...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8
Note: just realized I still have to add Mayo to the table...whoops!
Quote from: NCAARules on March 14, 2011, 04:14:43 PM
It says that Goodman on Fox is speculating that OU would take a long look at Buzz. The report then goes on to say Buzz to OU may not be likely because while Buzz does have connections in the south, he is doing a good job "making headway" at Marquette and has a great recruiting class coming in.
Thought it was interesting that a national expert on college basketball considers our incoming recruiting class to be "great." Heard a lot of grumbling around here that it wasn't very good due to the ESPN ranking numbers/grade assigned kids (many of which aren't updated..and are 6-12 months old).
Incidentally, saw Jarion Henry play this past weekend in the Texas State tourney...not very impressive. Fouled out...4 points. Wanted to play on the perimeter primarily. But he's a 4 star talent according to most services..
Quote from: fanofTR on March 14, 2011, 07:58:03 PMI would gladly take Cameron Clark on this team if he decided to leave OU. Would be a perfect start to our '12 class. He did some very nice things for the Sooners this past season. However, now maybe Buzz will just come to him.
The OU guy I want already left the program. Would love to see TJ Taylor in a Marquette uniform. I think that adding him, even as a sophomore transfer, might be the key we need to go from borderline-good to elite.
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 14, 2011, 04:30:21 PM
ANDY KATZ MADLIBS EVERYONE. Now, EVERYONE can make up speculative, unfounded bulls*** rumors, and post it. And...GO!
_______ is expected to go after _______ coach _______, a former assistant under _______ when he won
(school) (school) (person) (person)
_______.
(event)
If _______ turns the job down, _______ coach _______, who has _______ ties, is expected to be high on the
(person) (school) (person) (nickname)
list. If they can't land _______, the _______ will look for another established head coach.
(person) (nickname)
_______ is willing to pay a high dollar amount to compete with _______ and _______ in the _______
(school) (school) (school) (conference)
conference. _______ has long been considered the job with the second-most passionate basketball fan base
(school)
in the conference behind _______.
(school)
Well frickin' played.