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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 4everwarriors on March 13, 2011, 05:45:23 PM
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Marquette would not have made the Tournament without beating West Virginia last Wednesday. As it was, they were one of the last 6 in.
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Did we get in?
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Marquette would not have made the Tournament without beating West Virginia last Wednesday. As it was, they were one of the last 6 in.
Yup...weird...I started the same thread about 3 minutes ago and ghosts in the machine took it down...weird. You're 100% right 4ever.
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last six in before the play-in games, right?
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Careful guys. You might trip and fall over one another rushing to say 'I told you so.' Or at least sprain an elbow patting yourself on the back.
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Excuse me ... I thought lock means "in" and I see MU's name on the board.
Now before you give an 11 seed an anal exam remember that 11 BE teams made it in and the committee had to move teams around and out of position.
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Yup...weird...I started the same thread about 3 minutes ago and ghosts in the machine took it down...weird. You're 100% right 4ever.
I think it was taken down because you've already turned multiple threads into a "Chicos Was Right Thread".
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Thanks for bringing a little logic to the table, AnotherMU84.
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Excuse me ... I thought lock means "in" and I see MU's name on the board.
Now before you give an 11 seed an anal exam remember that 11 BE teams made it in and the committee had to move teams around and out of position.
Except people here were saying lock before the Big East tournament even started. That's the difference
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last six in before the play-in games, right?
No. Last non-bye at-large team.
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And who is to say they weren't a lock before the BET?
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Except people here were saying lock before the Big East tournament even started. That's the difference
I guess they were right.
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Except people here were saying lock before the Big East tournament even started. That's the difference
Do you know for a fact that they cared about conference tournaments?
Doesn't seem like decent performances helped CU or VT. It's not as obvious as you'd like to present.
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Yup...weird...I started the same thread about 3 minutes ago and ghosts in the machine took it down...weird. You're 100% right 4ever.
Because all you do is talk the team down. Be happy for MU or shut up. You ruin this board.
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The committee has more to consider than just best team, seed by seed. With all of the location and other matchup problems, MU could have easily originally been a nine seed and got bumped a back to an 11. Nobody knows who the last teams in were, after the four who are playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.
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Nobody knows who the last teams in were, after the four who are playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Umm...we all know who the last team in were...CBS and ESPN both posted the graphic. MU was the last non-bye team. That's a fact.
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Let's just be happy we weren't an 8 or 9 seed..who cares that we got an 11?!! Much better chance to beat a Syracuse in the 2nd round than a Kansas or Ohio State. This draw is pretty favorable.
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Forget the petty squabbling over seed, etc. We're in and it's time to take down the Muskies.
The administration looks at six straight NCAA bids. They are not apt to change a single thing in regards to scheduling. Per Forbes, Marquette is making serious money and is likely to maintain the status quo.
Go Warriors.
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I guess they were right.
How in the hell can you say that?
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All I know is that MU got in. That's all I care about. Maybe they would have made it without being WV, maybe they wouldn't have. Honestly, what difference does it make?
Initially I thought this thread was going to be about Chicos since he has become an expert at getting threads locked with his asinine posts.
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Because all you do is talk the team down. Be happy for MU or shut up. You ruin this board.
I am thrilled for MU. What I don't like is being called out the last few weeks as being anti-MU or anti-Buzz for daring to say we not only weren't a lock but had work to do. It seems you reward people here for how much they cheer lead, not based on rational decisions. A lot of folks here were thrown under the bus because they dared to call it like it was...and they were right. Thrilled for MU. Disappointed that bringing honest conversation and rational thought is punished here as anti-MU when it's nothing but straight talk. What a concept.
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I am thrilled for MU. What I don't like is being called out the last few weeks as being anti-MU or anti-Buzz for daring to say we not only weren't a lock but had work to do. It seems you reward people here for how much they cheer lead, not based on rational decisions. A lot of folks here were thrown under the bus because they dared to call it like it was...and they were right. Thrilled for MU. Disappointed that bringing honest conversation and rational thought is punished here as anti-MU when it's nothing but straight talk. What a concept.
Maybe you should try harder to not come off a smug ass whipe. That'd help your cause.
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Did the selection committee say we were one of the last six in? Or is that conjecture on the part of the analysts and our own posters?
My understanding was that the committee can bump teams up or down up to 3 lines in order to make things fit. How do we know we weren't bumped down seeds for overall seeding purposes?
The bigger question is: Who cares? Nah nah, I told you so? Is that all there is to this? Ridiculous.
Let's discuss something legitimate, like why Marquette and Georgia were not swapped in order to avoid second round same-conference match-ups. Eleven teams in means the committee could have avoided potential second round Big East matchups. Why did they not with Marquette - Cuse and Cinncy - UConn?
I am no conspiracy theorist, but you have to figure they intended for those second round match-ups, as the simple way to fix them was so obvious.
Oh, and Chicos....grow up. How's that for calling someone out. Always the victim.
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I am thrilled for MU. What I don't like is being called out the last few weeks as being anti-MU or anti-Buzz for daring to say we not only weren't a lock but had work to do. It seems you reward people here for how much they cheer lead, not based on rational decisions. A lot of folks here were thrown under the bus because they dared to call it like it was...and they were right. Thrilled for MU. Disappointed that bringing honest conversation and rational thought is punished here as anti-MU when it's nothing but straight talk. What a concept.
Here's another concept: Man up and quit crying. People didn't like your thoughts because your thoughts seemingly focus on the negative. MU got in. We don't know if they were a lock or not. It doesn't matter. They got in. Posters saying MU was a lock weren't wrong. MU got in. We'll never know if the BET wins had an effect on their standing or not...and it doesn't matter. MU got in. How about focusing on the game instead of whining about how people were mean to you?
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This is PURE speculation.
I'd argue that even if we hadn't beat WV, and possibly even if we hadn't beat PC, we'd have gotten in over VCU and/or UAB.
Regardless of where we were ultimately seeded, that's what I believe.
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Did the selection committee say we were one of the last six in? Or is that conjecture on the part of the analysts and our own posters?
Once again, CBS and ESPN both posted the graphic of who the last six teams in were based on what the selection committee said. MU was fifth on the list, but the first non-bye team.
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I understand the graphic, but did they assume just based on seeds? Could we have been bumped to an 11 due to logistics but still be well in?
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Marquette would not have made the Tournament without beating West Virginia last Wednesday. As it was, they were one of the last 6 in.
Your right.
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chico's - shouldn't you be busy finding material to start a thread on how someone thinks MU should not have gotten in?
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NT - posted in error.
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Part of the reason for why we got an 11 seed instead of say a 10 seed could simply have been a function of there being 11 Big East teams selected.
The committee i'm sure had some struggles trying to fit 11 Big East teams into their brackets while at the same time trying to avoid to many potential second round matchups between Big East teams.
Now my theory certainly could be total garbage and Marquette really did need that win vs West Virgina to get in, but either way, we are in and nothing else matters.
Plus, i don't see Xavier being a much tougher draw than if instead we'd have been a 10 seed and had to face someone like UCLA, Temple, or Washington.
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How in the hell can you say that?
Lock means we are getting in ... and we got in?
Again I ask, are we 11 seed because that is what the committee thinks of us or are we an 11 because they had to move BE teams around because the conference got 11 in?
We don't know and will probably never know.
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Lock means we are getting in ... and we got in?
Again I ask, are we 11 seed because that is what the committee thinks of us or are we an 11 because they had to move BE teams around because the conference got 11 in?
We don't know and will probably never know.
Honestly I think they did move us down a seed or two because they wanted us matched up with another BE team to prevent a potential Sweet 16 with 11 BE teams. Not that it had to be us, but that we were the ones they happened to choose to do it to.
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Honestly I think they did move us down a seed or two because they wanted us matched up with another BE team to prevent a potential Sweet 16 with 11 BE teams. Not that it had to be us, but that we were the ones they happened to choose to do it to.
#6 Cincy and #3 UConn got the same treatment. Easily could have been preventable within the brackets by swapping MU with #10 Georgia and Cincy with #7 Temple.
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#6 Cincy and #3 UConn got the same treatment. Easily could have been preventable within the brackets by swapping MU with #10 Georgia and Cincy with #7 Temple.
I know - I think we were a 10 and they moved us on purpose to cut down on the possible number of BE teams in the Sweet 16. Because of their seeding choices, there can only be 9 BE teams in the Sweet 16 instead of 11. It's like the committee said "sure you can have 11 in, but we're going to make sure you cancel each other out."
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Umm...we all know who the last team in were...CBS and ESPN both posted the graphic. MU was the last non-bye team. That's a fact.
That is based upon the seeding. The number one seeds are ranked 1-4 and then the best number 2 seed is paired with the worst number one, and it continues like that. Given this, the rankings mean very little once they committee reaches the thick of the field. There are MANY factors that place teams in given seeds, including committee evaluation, location, opponent, future potential opponents, etc. Based on evaluation, the committee could have easily had Marquette in the field for all we know.