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Title: Are we really a lock?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
The court of public opinion in Wisconsin and on other message boards is that the Big East will only get 8?
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 11, 2011, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
The court of public opinion in Wisconsin and on other message boards is that the Big East will only get 8?


8?  LOL

Links...I need some laughter today.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 11, 2011, 01:47:49 PM
No.  11.  Bet the farm.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: NersEllenson on March 11, 2011, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
The court of public opinion in Wisconsin and on other message boards is that the Big East will only get 8?


I'd be very concerned about Wisconsin's future if that is the consensus.

MU is a lock.  Villanova may be on the bubble..which would put Big East at 10 teams
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on March 11, 2011, 01:53:37 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
The court of public opinion in Wisconsin and on other message boards is that the Big East will only get 8?

You must be reading Badger boards.  Get a grip.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:57:12 PM
No the ESPN Message board which is usually takes a good temperature of what people really think (Not neccesarily right though)
The Espn  message board says that Villanova should not get in, Marquette should not get in cause they got blown out last night, and Cincinnati should not get in for the same reason Marquette didnt. 

Apparently that blow out might cost us a bid?
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: NersEllenson on March 11, 2011, 01:58:20 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:57:12 PM
No the ESPN Message board which is usually takes a good temperature of what people really think (Not neccesarily right though)
The Espn  message board says that Villanova should not get in, Marquette should not get in cause they got blown out last night, and Cincinnati should not get in for the same reason Marquette didnt. 

Apparently that blow out might cost us a bid?

Idiotic.  Wonder if there is any coincidence in 2 teams that were playing their 3rd game in 3 nights, matched up against an opponent who hadn't played in 6 days - as to why both teams were blown out by margins far greater than any regular season defeat?
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:59:53 PM
I understand that most are delusional on that board but the court of public opinion is still out on us.

The same poster said that Penn State is in and Illinois and Michigan State are locks
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: cheebs09 on March 11, 2011, 02:00:43 PM
We got blown out last year against Georgetown and still got a bid. Also, ESPN boards are filled with people that don't really know much to be honest. At least some of the ones I've read. They basically like to shout a lot and say how bad their rivals are. If the Big East gets less than 10 (and I the only way they get 10 is if some crazy stuff happens in remaining tourneys and Nova gets left out), the outcry to the SJU/Rutgers game would look tame compared to what will happen. Especially if some of these bubble ACC and Big 10/11/12 teams get in.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: madtownwarrior on March 11, 2011, 02:01:10 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:59:53 PM
I understand that most are delusional on that board but the court of public opinion is still out on us.

The same poster said that Penn State is in and Illinois and Michigan State are locks


Really - not hard to see this is a Big Ten Lover / Big East basher - ignoring then would be the best advice...
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: tower912 on March 11, 2011, 02:04:21 PM
Typical myopic Wisconsin/Big 1? BS/Bias.   Try to find one bracket not viewed through bucky glasses that says the same thing.    Fret not. 
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 02:05:25 PM
I believe Real time RPI has us out in bracket matrix.

I dont understand why Illinois and MIchigan state are locks but we arent?
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 11, 2011, 01:47:31 PM
8?  LOL

Links...I need some laughter today.
http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=ncaa&id=ncb&tid=8284314&lid=17 (http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=ncaa&id=ncb&tid=8284314&lid=17)
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: babytownfrolics on March 11, 2011, 02:12:15 PM
ESPN message boards, or the consensus of bracket experts from all over the country?  I'll trust the latter.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: cheebs09 on March 11, 2011, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 02:08:31 PM
http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=ncaa&id=ncb&tid=8284314&lid=17 (http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=ncaa&id=ncb&tid=8284314&lid=17)

If the tourney was only about 56 teams like that guy thinks it is, then we may be worried. I see only one person really thinking in that thread that we are out. He has UWM and Coastal Carolina in as at-larges. I'm not worried at all.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: bobnoxious on March 11, 2011, 02:28:40 PM
After reading that I have only one response


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEkWH8DB7b0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEkWH8DB7b0)
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: DCWarriors04 on March 11, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
LOL...if Illinois and Michigan St are locks then I feel fine. Relax, we are a lock. We've got a big road victory over UConn and a key win Wednesday night over Huggy Bear and WVU.

Yeah there are people out there that don't want 11 BEast teams in the tourney but the bubble is horribly weak this year and there are a ton of teams that in normal years wouldn't even be considered first 4 in or first 4 out.

Only way I'd be worried come Sunday evening is if every major conference tournament had underdogs playing in the semi-finals and finals.

that being said...Relax
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: lab_warrior on March 11, 2011, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
The court of public opinion

To quote the late, great George Carlin, "F*** the public; the public sucks."

Hey, a week ago, I thought we were really shaky.  No way now--we are in no sweat.  Even 'Nova with their shaky finish should get in, their numbers/resume are WAY better than the "public" thinks.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: madtownwarrior on March 11, 2011, 02:35:13 PM
wow, you read that and took that discussions as expert opinion or national consensus?   

I
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: SaintPaulWarrior on March 11, 2011, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: lab_warrior on March 11, 2011, 02:34:06 PM
To quote the late, great George Carlin, "F*** the public; the public sucks."

Hey, a week ago, I thought we were really shaky.  No way now--we are in no sweat.  Even 'Nova with their shaky finish should get in, their numbers/resume are WAY better than the "public" thinks.

Or to quote Dan Aykroyd/Zelinski from "Tommy Boy"......."What the american public doesnt know is what makes them the american public."
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: LON on March 11, 2011, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: madtownwarrior on March 11, 2011, 02:35:13 PM
wow, you read that and took that discussions as expert opinion or national consensus?   

I

It was written by a 'Cuse fan to boot.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: mugrad2006 on March 11, 2011, 03:04:46 PM
You want the consensus of public opinion (those who actually watch the games and track this stuff).  Take a look at the Bracket Project's bracket matrix

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm

MU is in 82 of 84 brackets, and is a lock or safely in (5+ spots) in all the major brackets (Lunardi, Jerry Palm, Dance Card, CtD, etc.).  The two brackets we are not in include a Bleacher Report 'blogger' and some other blog.

Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: bilsu on March 11, 2011, 03:19:59 PM
I always worried that the committee will actually forget about a team. Like the brackets come out and North Carolina is left out, because everyone on the committee thought they had out them in and did not verify it.

So you are never a lock.

I am not sure the Big East gets 11 teams, but I see Villanova being left out before MU.

The Big East has gotten 8 in when the tournament was 65 teams. When they expanded it to 68 I do not think they were envisioning giving the extra three bids to one conference and I think they will be reluctant to do that. To me three teams are not locks. Villanova, Georgetown and MU. They will not leave out all three, but I think is it realistic to expect all three to get in. My prediction is that all three are in, but Villanova and Georgetwon will be in the play in games on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 11, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
11 Big East schools are in, with Nova not MU as the 11th team.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 11, 2011, 06:40:12 PM
Bait Post!
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: Blackhat on March 11, 2011, 07:02:17 PM
Your posts blow,  just like Kenosha.   F**king Kenosha.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: brewcity77 on March 11, 2011, 07:20:59 PM
Anyone who really objectively looks at the numbers will see there are 11 locks from the Big East. You simply cannot line up the RPI, computer numbers, quality wins, and bad losses and claim that teams like Marquette, Villanova, and Georgetown are going to miss the tournament because of teams like Missouri State, Colorado, Washington State, and Michigan.

2-3 weeks ago, Georgetown and 'Nova were on the 2-4 lines. You can lose a lot of seeding in that time, but the only way either of them misses the tourney is if their team bus took a header into the Hudson River on the way out of NYC. Their resumes are simply too strong.

KenoshaWarrior, bilsu, and other doubters, please take 10-15 minutes to look at the current "last four in" and "last four out" teams. Then check the RPIs and kenpom.com to compare those teams to the last 3 Big East teams. Look at who the teams beat. Look at who they lost to. It's not even close.

We're a lock. And as more and more bubble teams shoot themselves in the feet, our status only becomes more secure. Rest easy, we are in.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: WildBill77RT on March 11, 2011, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: Stone Cold on March 11, 2011, 07:02:17 PM
Your posts blow,  just like Kenosha.   F**king Kenosha.

+1
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 11, 2011, 07:27:25 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 01:46:49 PM
The court of public opinion in Wisconsin and on other message boards is that the Big East will only get 8?


(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/funny-pictures-owl-wrong.jpg?w=500&h=373)
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 07:39:39 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 11, 2011, 07:20:59 PM
Anyone who really objectively looks at the numbers will see there are 11 locks from the Big East. You simply cannot line up the RPI, computer numbers, quality wins, and bad losses and claim that teams like Marquette, Villanova, and Georgetown are going to miss the tournament because of teams like Missouri State, Colorado, Washington State, and Michigan.

2-3 weeks ago, Georgetown and 'Nova were on the 2-4 lines. You can lose a lot of seeding in that time, but the only way either of them misses the tourney is if their team bus took a header into the Hudson River on the way out of NYC. Their resumes are simply too strong.

KenoshaWarrior, bilsu, and other doubters, please take 10-15 minutes to look at the current "last four in" and "last four out" teams. Then check the RPIs and kenpom.com to compare those teams to the last 3 Big East teams. Look at who the teams beat. Look at who they lost to. It's not even close.

We're a lock. And as more and more bubble teams shoot themselves in the feet, our status only becomes more secure. Rest easy, we are in.

I am not a doubter.  I just dont like the poster on the espn message board not having us in along with 2 brackets on the bracket matrix.  What if the commitee agrees with those ones.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 11, 2011, 07:43:14 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 07:39:39 PM
I am not a doubter.  I just dont like the poster on the espn message board not having us in along with 2 brackets on the bracket matrix.  What if the commitee agrees with those ones.

Read that back to yourself.
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: tower912 on March 11, 2011, 07:44:35 PM
Yes, the committee always takes the thoughts of posters on the ESPN board into consideration.    Good call. 
Title: Re: Are we really a lock?
Post by: DCWarriors04 on March 11, 2011, 07:58:57 PM
Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on March 11, 2011, 07:39:39 PM
I am not a doubter.  I just dont like the poster on the espn message board not having us in along with 2 brackets on the bracket matrix.  What if the commitee agrees with those ones.

Thank you for that good laugh
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