Burr, Higgins, and Walton all are stepping aside for remainder of the BET.
Checking out other Big East message boards, this seems to be one thing everyone in the conference can agree on.
Huggins & Burr = Bad
hopefully out of the NCAA also
They need to retire. Old and slow is a bad combo for NCAA refs.
Quote from: groove on March 10, 2011, 10:27:57 AM
hopefully out of the NCAA also
I heard an interview with the head of NCAA officiating who seemed to imply they will likely be in the NCAAs. Said it works just like teams - look at the whole body of work not whether one mistake was made.
Quote from: copious1218 on March 10, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
I heard an interview with the head of NCAA officiating who seemed to imply they will likely be in the NCAAs. Said it works just like teams - look at the whole body of work not whether one mistake was made.
I think all of us who have watched our share of Big East games over the years can send them plenty of evidence to support that their whole body of work warrants retirement.
Well, their whole body of work sucks. I don't want either one of them anywhere near MU.
I swear Burr was in the tunnel before there were zeros on the clock. Did he have a hot date with a bookie?
I couldn't believe how many times I heard last night what great refs these guys are. I strongly disagree!
Quote from: Fullodds on March 10, 2011, 10:29:35 AM
They need to retire. Old and slow is a bad combo for NCAA refs.
Yet in this case, they showed surprising quickness in avoiding the inevitable push....
If you were a coach would ever call out a Ref directly in the Media? I cannot think it helps your program in the Long run get more calls. I think the high road is your only choice.
Quote from: Slim on March 10, 2011, 10:38:13 AM
I couldn't believe how many times I heard last night what great refs these guys are. I strongly disagree!
Officiating requires two characteristics: 1) The ability to see what is happening on the court, and 2) the ability to judge what you see in a fraction of a second.
Burr and Higgins are very good are judging what they actually see. Unfortunately, They are not so good at seeing what they need to judge.
Gotta love the tabloids.
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Wow! Even Melo's buzzer beater moved aside for this story.
Quote from: Benny B on March 10, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
Officiating requires two characteristics: 1) The ability to see what is happening on the court, and 2) the ability to judge what you see in a fraction of a second.
Burr and Higgins are very good are judging what they actually see. Unfortunately, They are not so good at seeing what they need to judge.
Which brings up a third characteristic, the physical fitness to be able to get up and down the court.
It also helps if you can avoid anticipating calls which leads to calling fouls that didn't really happen.
I think this is definitely the right thing for them to do, however I think the BET might have been better off with them sticking around. With all of the conference tournaments going on the next 4 days, what's the quality of the officials that are available for hire still?
Quote from: drewm88 on March 10, 2011, 11:25:28 AM
I think this is definitely the right thing for them to do, however I think the BET might have been better off with them sticking around. With all of the conference tournaments going on the next 4 days, what's the quality of the officials that are available for hire still?
Curly, Moe, and Larry are available and would be an upgrade.
If not, me, F*ckin', and Chicos will to it for food and beverage.
Quote from: drewm88 on March 10, 2011, 11:25:28 AM
I think this is definitely the right thing for them to do, however I think the BET might have been better off with them sticking around. With all of the conference tournaments going on the next 4 days, what's the quality of the officials that are available for hire still?
It really only affects today since there are only 2 games tomorrow and 1 on Saturday.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 10, 2011, 11:36:02 AM
If not, me, F*ckin', and Chicos will to it for food and beverage.
Then I hope we see you toss Quick Rick immediately following the tip while sitting on the scorer's table munching on the pretzel they give you with a beer.
Quote from: Slim on March 10, 2011, 10:38:13 AM
I couldn't believe how many times I heard last night what great refs these guys are. I strongly disagree!
Whether tey are great or not is not the issue. You are always wise not to call someone out publically. The Rutgers coach showed a lot of class by taking the high road and i feel he will benefit from it in the future.
I feel kind of bad for the 3rd official. He's getting dragged down by Burr & Higgins even though the third official was on the other side of the court and in no position to make the call.
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. That's a shame.
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Do the Big East and Chief of Referees not see what is obvious to us or do they just choose to quietly let them disappear? A friend of mine is a retired ref and in the HOF, he defends his boys but once in while with just the right amount of beer even he will admit that these two have issues.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 10, 2011, 11:36:02 AM
If not, me, F*ckin', and Chicos will to it for food and beverage.
Dude, I thought you
were Higgins. I guess you were that guy on Magnum P.I., instead.
Quote from: marquette09 on March 10, 2011, 11:52:50 AM
I feel kind of bad for the 3rd official. He's getting dragged down by Burr & Higgins even though the third official was on the other side of the court and in no position to make the call.
I didn't notice who the third official was, he wasn't the turd that hands out two T's a game was he?
Alright Murray will be the alternate official since he has trouble running.
Burr still peeves me from last years ND game at the BC...in case you don't remember..
ND throws a pass to no one, on its way out of bounds it hits Burr's foot and get deflected to a ND player under the basket, player makes the shot, ref calls a foul, Buzz goes ape crazy and gets T'd up. 5 points to ND. They won by 4, right?
Quote from: Slim on March 10, 2011, 10:38:13 AM
I couldn't believe how many times I heard last night what great refs these guys are. I strongly disagree!
I know. Are they all members of the same club? Is this some unwritten rule?
good to see digger went to mass yesterday
Quote from: ringout on March 10, 2011, 01:11:40 PM
I know. Are they all members of the same club? Is this some unwritten rule?
The thinking is that with so many fans questioning the refs to start with, that when refs make obvious errors, they have to be protected or all refs will start to take the heat.
Quote from: groove on March 10, 2011, 01:21:24 PM
good to see digger went to mass yesterday
Rumor has it that he ordered a special ash colored high lighter made for him for Ash Wednesday.
Quote from: LittleMurs on March 10, 2011, 01:24:36 PM
Rumor has it that he ordered a special ash colored high lighter made for him for Ash Wednesday.
classic
So Digger was a bit more of an ash yesterday than he usually is?
Quote from: leever on March 10, 2011, 02:05:56 PM
So Digger was a bit more of an ash yesterday than he usually is?
I think 2 straight nights of Raftery is starting to rub off.
Oh the memories...
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Buzz clarifies a point (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wgg/3188264558/) by doubleewe (http://www.flickr.com/people/wgg/), on Flickr
ESPN showed Burrr sitting in the stands enjoying the action at MSG.