apparently was against Big East rules. He made the media wait almost 75 minutes before making himself and the players available. I know, sportswriters are scum in people's eyes, but...
But...but what? Buzz is paid to win and his top priority is the best interest's of his team.
Do you think Calhoun, Boheim, Pitino have never broken this rule? Keep the media waiting, they can ask their dimwitted questions later.
I have no problem with him making them wait. But, my fear is it was due to his deer in the headlight look and nothing else. He is uncharted waters for him. The BE is for big boys and Buzz is feeling some heat. Time to come out swinging, not hide.
Buzz a rule breaker? Nahhhh never. A rule bender and a visitor to the edges of sleazytown maybe. But hey how about that defense and that Big South conference caliber coaching ability
I honestly don't understand how he's taking ANY heat for this. Some act like he ducked out on the media and jumped on the team bus. He had a team meeting because that's what was most important in that moment.
Futher, when the time came he stood, faced the media and answered thier questions. He didn't hide from anything.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2011, 02:06:48 PM
I have no problem with him making them wait. But, my fear is it was due to his deer in the headlight look and nothing else. He is uncharted waters for him. The BE is for big boys and Buzz is feeling some heat. Time to come out swinging, not hide.
He's afraid to look the press in the eye but not his 12 players and assistant coaches that just lost? He has a recruit in the locker room after the game (Nolan) and he's not afraid to argue in favor of committing to MU but he's worried above facing Rosiak?
This is 180 degrees out of phase?
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 06, 2011, 02:13:09 PM
I honestly don't understand how he's taking ANY heat for this. Some act like he ducked out on the media and jumped on the team bus. He had a team meeting because that's what was most important in that moment.
Futher, when the time came he stood, faced the media and answered thier questions. He didn't hide from anything.
Agreed. his number one focus is his team and at the moment, the priority was to deal with what just transpired immediately preceding his locker room talk. his team needed him more than the public needed his answers to softball questions in those 75 minutes - the softball questions could wait.
AnotherMU--I do not think he is afraid of the media. I think he is coming unglued a tad.
Hope it worked.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2011, 02:24:42 PM
AnotherMU--I do not think he is afraid of the media. I think he is coming unglued a tad.
Then he will fit in with you and several other posters.
This subject needed another thread? Really? So Buzz chose his team over the media and that's a problem to this board? Really? The complainers are the ones that have wanted Buzz to do something. Here was your chance to applaud, but you took the wrong road again.
People seem to look for reasons to complain.
Quote from: MUMac on March 06, 2011, 03:27:39 PM
Then he will fit in with you and several other posters.
This subject needed another thread? Really? So Buzz chose his team over the media and that's a problem to this board? Really? The complainers are the ones that have wanted Buzz to do something. Here was your chance to applaud, but you took the wrong road again.
People seem to look for reasons to complain.
+1
Quote from: MUMac on March 06, 2011, 03:27:39 PM
People seem to look for reasons to complain.
I thought the definition of a message board was a place people with common interests can come together and complain.
I have zero interest in complaining...much prefer celebrating W's. If you play like crap you deserve the complaints.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 06, 2011, 03:32:52 PM
I thought the definition of a message board was a place people with common interests can come together and complain.
It's like a virtual barbershop / corner tavern.
Quote from: Goose on March 06, 2011, 03:48:55 PM
I have zero interest in complaining...much prefer celebrating W's. If you play like crap you deserve the complaints.
But you're no complaining about crappy play. You're complaining about Buzz "hiding" and how he's unable to "handle the heat" or "hang with the big boys", all of which is complete garbage.
I said in my first post I had no problem with Buzz making them wait. Simply said I hope it was for the right reason and not ducking out.
It would go against everything Buzz preaches and what we've seen from him in the past to hide. I'm not buying it. A little circling of the wagons was badly needed, and I'm sure he took advantage of the immediate aftermath of that awful performance to do so.
This is baloney. Buzz can do what he wants. The priority was to be with and talk to the team, not the media. That's ok.
If you are a sportswriter with a deadline, it's not OK. That's why the Big East and the NCAA have these rules.
Quote from: ecompt on March 06, 2011, 05:12:22 PM
If you are a sportswriter with a deadline, it's not OK. That's why the Big East and the NCAA have these rules.
So Buzz should've put the sportwriters' deadlines ahead of the best interests of his team?
Absolutely not. But part of his $1 million-plus salary is to take care of his and his players' media responsibilities. Take 10 minutes, answer the lamebrained questions sportswriters ask, then talk to the team all night if he feels it's necessary. He could also have tried to talk to the recruit he kept waiting for 75 minutes.
Quote from: ecompt on March 06, 2011, 05:25:39 PM
Absolutely not. But part of his $1 million-plus salary is to take care of his and his players' media responsibilities. Take 10 minutes, answer the lamebrained questions sportswriters ask, then talk to the team all night if he feels it's necessary. He could also have tried to talk to the recruit he kept waiting for 75 minutes.
Bull. If that's what his team needed at that moment than he did the right thing. It's not as if he's made a habit of this. This is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
And reports had the recruit in the locker room with the team for this meeting. It's not at if he was sitting out in the cold waiting for Buzz.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 06, 2011, 05:44:53 PM
Bull. If that's what his team needed at that moment than he did the right thing. It's not as if he's made a habit of this. This is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
And reports had the recruit in the locker room with the team for this meeting. It's not at if he was sitting out in the cold waiting for Buzz.
It should be overwhelmingly obvious that some are just looking to complain about anything.
This thread has found the most irrelevant thing in three years of Buzz to complain about.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 06, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
It should be overwhelmingly obvious that some are just looking to complain about anything.
No, it should be overwhelmingly obvious that he's giving a sportswriters POV and there are reasons why there are rules that are in place for conferences, leagues (pro and college). Otherwise you would have every coach saying "I had to talk to my team". The reality is that most coaches don't like doing the media stuff. It's a grind. They would love to back out of it every time for most of them. This is why those rules are in place. This is also why coaches get fined for not following the rules.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 06, 2011, 06:01:48 PM
No, it should be overwhelmingly obvious that he's giving a sportswriters POV and there are reasons why there are rules that are in place for conferences, leagues (pro and college). Otherwise you would have every coach saying "I had to talk to my team". The reality is that most coaches don't like doing the media stuff. It's a grind. They would love to back out of it every time for most of them. This is why those rules are in place. This is also why coaches get fined for not following the rules.
Again, this is an isolated incident, not a trend; also known as a non-issue.
Well. At least he didn't cry at the press conference. Some progress from his new Orleans days. Guess he is stable
Well, at least he didn't pull a f*ck you Crean handshake with the opposing coach.
I cried watching that mess yesterday.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 06, 2011, 06:01:48 PM
No, it should be overwhelmingly obvious that he's giving a sportswriters POV and there are reasons why there are rules that are in place for conferences, leagues (pro and college). Otherwise you would have every coach saying "I had to talk to my team". The reality is that most coaches don't like doing the media stuff. It's a grind. They would love to back out of it every time for most of them. This is why those rules are in place. This is also why coaches get fined for not following the rules.
This is precious. Do you think this lame ass thread get's started if Buzz does the same thing but MU wins the game?
Think about it then provide a serious answer.
Do you think we have this lame ass thread if buzz wasn't such a lame ass defensive coach
Does it become a lame ass thread if Buzz is fined by the NCAA? Or when the recruit he was supposed to talk to decides to go elsewhere?
Quote from: groove on March 06, 2011, 07:18:38 PM
Do you think we have this lame ass thread if buzz wasn't such a lame ass defensive coach
Yes, unfortunately we would have this (or similar) lame ass threads. We have them after every loss, and oftentimes after wins in which we did not play well, but WON the game. We even have them after wins in which we did play pretty well, but one or more members of the team didn't have a good game or Buzz didn't use his timeouts appropriately or we let a team (gasp) go on a run, etc., etc., etc.
And why is this? Because for some reason we have a lot of
fans posters that seem to think if we are anything less than 31-0, ranked #1 in the country, and sending all 5 starters to the first round of the NBA draft that the coaching staff and team have failed and that the season should be eradicated from the record books.
I have struggled for a long time to make sense of the expectations people have for this program but have given it up as a lost cause. We play in the best conference in the country. We are going to take our lumps. We are NEVER going to go undefeated, or play our best every time out, because NO teams do that.
Do I wish we had played better against Seton Hall, UC, etc. Yes. Do I believe the venom and level of negativity and the pettiness of some on this board is justifed? Absolutely not.
No I think the coaching that buzz put on display is enough for the recruit to decide to go elsewhere
Quote from: ecompt on March 06, 2011, 07:24:22 PM
Does it become a lame ass thread if Buzz is fined by the NCAA? Or when the recruit he was supposed to talk to decides to go elsewhere?
The NCAA has no involvement here. The BE does and if he is fined, he is fined. I doubt, though, it would be a fine for this offense.
If Nolan goes elsewhere because of this, that will be his decision. Move on to the next one. Again, though, I doubt this would be a reason for him to dismiss Marquette.
You really are a bit unhinged on this one. Your hyperbole aside, I am happy Buzz took the performance of the day to heart and had a long meeting with the team. There were things that happenned out there that needed to be addressed.
ecompt, you are one of Buzz' biggest detractors, along with chicos. Is there anything he does right in your eyes?
Quote from: ecompt on March 06, 2011, 07:24:22 PM
Does it become a lame ass thread if Buzz is fined by the NCAA? Or when the recruit he was supposed to talk to decides to go elsewhere?
It's still a lame ass thread.
I couldn't care less if Buzz is fined by the NCAA for breaking some unimportant rule because he felt he needed to raise hell with his team. In the grand scheme of things, this is not something I'm worried about at the moment.
And if said recruit decides to go elsewhere, I really really doubt it's because the coach of the team was coaching his team and made him wait a while (if that's even really what happended).
I am more concerned that according to butler, the main thing that the players got out of the meeting is that they weren't tough enough and have to be tougher. This whole bs about toughness is going over the top. What about some actual coaching adjustments and stop using buzz words like toughness. So now the players go out try and play tougher and still make the same mistakes. How can that not make them more frustrated
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 06, 2011, 07:08:11 PM
This is precious. Do you think this lame ass thread get's started if Buzz does the same thing but MU wins the game?
Think about it then provide a serious answer.
Based on the lame ass threads that have been started about the previous coach even when MU won games in the past...yeah, probably. ;D
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 06, 2011, 07:44:42 PM
Based on the lame ass threads that have been started about the previous coach even when MU won games in the past...yeah, probably. ;D
touche. I guess what we've learned is that no matter what happens, lame ass threads will be started on MUScoop. ;D
Quote from: groove on March 06, 2011, 07:44:22 PM
I am more concerned that according to butler, the main thing that the players got out of the meeting is that they weren't tough enough and have to be tougher. This whole bs about toughness is going over the top. What about some actual coaching adjustments and stop using buzz words like toughness. So now the players go out try and play tougher and still make the same mistakes. How can that not make them more frustrated
They still wouldn't be as frustrated as those of us who read your postings.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 06, 2011, 02:15:05 PM
He's afraid to look the press in the eye but not his 12 players and assistant coaches that just lost? He has a recruit in the locker room after the game (Nolan) and he's not afraid to argue in favor of committing to MU but he's worried above facing Rosiak?
This is 180 degrees out of phase?
If you think this was about Buzz not wanting to face the media, I don't think you have a clue...