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Title: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: Masterr73 on March 03, 2011, 09:35:56 PM
I dont know about anyone else but I am terrified of this game against Hall. If we lose we fall to 18-13 and I am not too sure that gets us in. Hall handled St. Johns today, only lost to cuse by 5 at home, lost to Uconn by 2 at home, and nova by 3. I have a bad feeling about saturday
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2011, 09:37:25 PM
Quote from: Masterr73 on March 03, 2011, 09:35:56 PM
I dont know about anyone else but I am terrified of this game against Hall. If we lose we fall to 18-13 and I am not too sure that gets us in. Hall handled St. Johns today, only lost to cuse by 5 at home, lost to Uconn by 2 at home, and nova by 3. I have a bad feeling about saturday

Absolutely.  Their Senior day, road game for us, they have bitten some teams this year already....ton of pressure on us, no pressure on them.  Every reason to be worried. 
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: MUBalla23 on March 03, 2011, 09:38:09 PM
seriously, put it to rest.  They put up a once in a lifetime shooting performance.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: Masterr73 on March 03, 2011, 09:40:57 PM
BE teams have had trouble there all year
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 03, 2011, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: MUBalla23 on March 03, 2011, 09:38:09 PM
seriously, put it to rest.  They put up a once in a lifetime shooting performance.

They also beat Syracuse by more than 20.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: Doris Burkes Thong on March 03, 2011, 09:44:32 PM
All I can say is strap on your drinking cap and just hope for the best.  MU is as jekyll and hyde as they come this year.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: groove on March 03, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on March 03, 2011, 09:44:32 PM
All I can say is strap on your drinking cap and just hope for the best.  MU is as jekyll and hyde as they come this year.

im sure buzz will make adjustments.... oh wait
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: Jacks DC on March 03, 2011, 09:50:27 PM
I actually feel better about our chances after SH had an emotional hard fought victory over a cross-town rival only two days before playing us.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2011, 09:50:51 PM
Quote from: MUBalla23 on March 03, 2011, 09:38:09 PM
seriously, put it to rest.  They put up a once in a lifetime shooting performance.

They beat Alabama...a bubble team
They beat Syracuse...a NCAA team

They have been in games against Xavier (lost by 5), Temple (Lost by 6), Clemson (lost in OT), Georgetown, UCONN (lost by 2), Nova (lost by 3), etc....not a team to take lightly.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: MUfan12 on March 03, 2011, 10:04:20 PM
Really, really hoping for a letdown from them.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: esotericmindguy on March 03, 2011, 10:19:15 PM
They're solid, but my guess is they won't go 12-18 from 3 and shoot 65% from the floor. Talk about Adjustments, Lavin kept playing that awful zone against them and allowed wide open 3s all night.

Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: groove on March 03, 2011, 10:21:15 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on March 03, 2011, 10:19:15 PM
They're solid, but my guess is they won't go 12-18 from 3 and shoot 65% from the floor. Talk about Adjustments, Lavin kept playing that awful zone against them and allowed wide open 3s all night.

Yeah, sometimes you have to wonder if some of these coaches are actually watching the game
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
Quote from: groove on March 03, 2011, 10:21:15 PM
Yeah, sometimes you have to wonder if some of these coaches are actually watching the game

Don't you get the sense sometimes that they work so hard on a gameplan and prep work that they are going to stick to that gameplan to the very end?  That's my view.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: groove on March 03, 2011, 10:30:03 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
Don't you get the sense sometimes that they work so hard on a gameplan and prep work that they are going to stick to that gameplan to the very end?  That's my view.

I agree. Sometimes not thinking out of the box. Sometimes I think it doesnt help to help 4 assistants swarming around also. Nothing more comical than when a time out is called and the coach and a bunch of assistants huddle around for 95 percent of the time out to come up with a plan before finally turning and talking to the team.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: esotericmindguy on March 03, 2011, 10:30:21 PM
I guess, I suppose he thought a team shooting 27% from 3 in conference would eventually start to miss but they didn't. St. Johns has become my second favorite team in conference, love the way they play....the only thing they are missing is a Diebler or knowles to knock down 3s.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: willie warrior on March 04, 2011, 05:25:12 AM
I did predict 9-9 with a loss to Seton hall three weeks ago.

Not a very good week for Buzz and the Warriors. Lose to Cincy at home, lose out on Tokoto, and then lose at Seton Hall. Not saying I want it to happen, but it sure looks that way. Oh well, there is always next year--in Buzz we trust.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: mu_eyeballs on March 04, 2011, 07:31:03 AM
"New York and New Jersey. ... I cross that bridge every day," Willard said. "Try crossing that bridge and you'll get a little chippy too."

This was SH superbowl...they have been hearing about St. Johns all year and were sick of it...I am not saying that I am not nervous...MU has shown that they can loose to anybody on any given night...or at least almost lose(See south florda).  But MU has shown that Senior night is not magical...and there is no way SH gets up nearly as much for Saturday as they did for St. John's last night.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: reinko on March 04, 2011, 07:35:05 AM
FWIW, Seton Hall spring break starts on the end of classes today.  Can't hurt I guess.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2011, 09:01:55 AM
Applying similar logic to some of that on display here, there is no way Cincinnati was going to beat MU the other night. Every game is different.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: ecompt on March 04, 2011, 10:42:04 AM
If Jae doesn't bounce back and have a monster game, I fear we will have a very tough time. And if the Hall puts on any kind of press, it's even tougher. On paper I say we lose by 3.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 04, 2011, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2011, 09:50:51 PM
They beat Alabama...a bubble team
They beat Syracuse...a NCAA team

They have been in games against Xavier (lost by 5), Temple (Lost by 6), Clemson (lost in OT), Georgetown, UCONN (lost by 2), Nova (lost by 3), etc....not a team to take lightly.

Sounds like you are describing our Warriors.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: brewcity77 on March 04, 2011, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 03, 2011, 09:50:51 PMThey beat Alabama...a bubble team
They beat Syracuse...a NCAA team

They have been in games against Xavier (lost by 5), Temple (Lost by 6), Clemson (lost in OT), Georgetown, UCONN (lost by 2), Nova (lost by 3), etc....not a team to take lightly.

Seton Hall's a funny kind of team. Their SOS is 8, 2 wins v top 50 opponents, only 2 losses v 101+ opponents...if they weren't so bad, you'd think they were kind of good. My guess is that if they were in almost any other conference in the country, they'd be an NCAA team. But 11 losses v top 50 and 15 v top 100 RPI has them well out of NCAA consideration. Had they gone with a weaker non-conference SOS and maybe earned one more Big East win, they might be playing for an NCAA berth if they could beat us on Saturday. 8-10 in the Big East this year, especially with the rest of their credentials, would probably be good enough.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 04, 2011, 06:07:42 PM
Well, worried or not; I'll be at the game cheering them on.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: NCAARules on March 04, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
1. I worry about every Big East game. Top-to-bottom, everyone can win. Not one time have I felt like MU had a game won before it was played. That being said, here are a few other thoughts...

2. Someone would have to check the stats, but my impression is that every once in a while, Seton Hall gets really hot from 3 PT land. But, my impression is also that it doesn't ever happen in consecutive games. I am hopeful this is the case.

3. I saw Rosiak's article that went up talking about the milestone of the 10th conference win. I like how important this game is, and how important the guys on the team think it is.

4. The only other back-to-the-wall game that I think MU has had was @UCONN. We came out of there with a W. Again, hoping that is a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: Worried about Seton Hall
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 05, 2011, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: Masterr73 on March 03, 2011, 09:35:56 PM
I dont know about anyone else but I am terrified of this game against Hall. If we lose we fall to 18-13 and I am not too sure that gets us in. Hall handled St. Johns today, only lost to cuse by 5 at home, lost to Uconn by 2 at home, and nova by 3. I have a bad feeling about saturday

As you should have
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