Where r the students today? They r not loud either.
I was just going to post this. Our fans suck, i'm sorry.
It's a really big arena for a relatively small student body.
That said, I thought the same thing listening to this game.
We should probably stop announcing the "best student section in the country" before every game. At this point, it just sort of sounds tacky.
Quote from: MU PoopScoop on February 27, 2011, 03:46:02 PM
We should probably stop announcing the "best student section in the country" before every game. At this point, it just sort of sounds tacky.
and just reeks of I4's bs.
The ESPN guys have commented a few times on how electric the crowd has gotten. Maybe the radio equalizer is just minimizing the crowd?
Quote from: MisterDMU on February 27, 2011, 03:55:28 PM
The ESPN guys have commented a few times on how electric the crowd has gotten. Maybe the radio equalizer is just minimizing the crowd?
If this crowd is electric, my labtop battery would stop a T-Rex from Jurassic Park.
I've been to enough games and read enough of these threads to know you CANNOT judge the crowd by watching TV. Especially if you're stuck watching it on ESPN3.
So, unless you're posting from inside the BC, let it go, you have no idea.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 27, 2011, 04:07:08 PM
I've been to enough games and read enough of these threads to know you CANNOT judge the crowd by watching TV. Especially if you're stuck watching it on ESPN3.
So, unless you're posting from inside the BC, let it go, you have no idea.
That's how I usually feel, but it seems the arena noise is pretty loud today. You can clearly hear the cheerleaders quite a bit, and sometimes even some yelling from the team.
Either this crowd blows, or the mics are set up to bring in a lot of noise specifically from floor level.
Quote from: drewm88 on February 27, 2011, 04:16:34 PM
That's how I usually feel, but it seems the arena noise is pretty loud today. You can clearly hear the cheerleaders quite a bit, and sometimes even some yelling from the team.
Either this crowd blows, or the mics are set up to bring in a lot of noise specifically from floor level.
You can certainly hear a lot of colorful language.
Maybe we can start a "Our student section should be fired according to some fans here" and then link a bunch of games over the next few weeks to show how other student sections have had off nights.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 27, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
Maybe we can start a "Our student section should be fired according to some fans here" and then link a bunch of games over the next few weeks to show how other student sections have had off nights.
LOL
Student section was terrible. Nobody in the upper deck. Time to take some tickets away.
I was watching on TV...and there seemed to be very few people in the upper deck period...students or otherwise.
Let's stop scapegoating the students and just say the crowd in general was pretty weak today.
Quote from: Victor McCormick on February 27, 2011, 05:06:58 PM
I was watching on TV...and there seemed to be very few people in the upper deck period...students or otherwise.
Let's stop scapegoating the students and just say the crowd in general was pretty weak today.
I was watching the game in person. Baselines were full, corners on MU side were 75%. Student section was entirely empty upstairs.
Awful. The BC was completely lopsided for attendance.
Quote from: marqptm on February 27, 2011, 05:01:46 PM
Student section was terrible. Nobody in the upper deck. Time to take some tickets away.
Rosiak blogged that the students showed up but no one else did. Maybe 12,000 to 13,000 in the house.
Again this is why you cannot base it on what you see on TV.
Bottom line is it's just hard to fill the BC against a team like Providence unless it's senior day, Fr. Wild night, or ChicosBailBonds day.
I hate playing in an NBA arena. Way too big to give a homecourt advantage.
These fans need a western Michigan NIT loss to appreciate this team - spoiled
Quote from: mviale on February 27, 2011, 05:15:15 PM
These fans need a western Michigan NIT loss to appreciate this team - spoiled
This.
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 27, 2011, 05:14:54 PM
I hate playing in an NBA arena. Way too big to give a homecourt advantage.
ESPN ran a trivia question today ... who are the only two NCAA teams to play ALL their games in an NBA Arena?
MU and Georgetown.
Also, as was noted earlier this year, the BC attendance is 234% of the undergrad enrollment of MU. This is one of the highest ratios in college ball. So, if every undergrad showed up, only 43% of the BC would be students.
What you're all asking for, the place packed with students, is physically impossible.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 27, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
ESPN ran a trivia question today ... who are the only two NCAA teams to play ALL their games in an NBA Arena?
MU and Georgetown.
Also, as was noted earlier this year, the BC attendance is 234% of the undergrad enrollment of MU. This is one of the highest ratios in college ball. So, if every undergrad showed up, only 43% of the BC would be students.
What you're all asking for, the place packed with students, is physically impossible.
Except the student section is 4,100 seats, and it has been filled before. This year has been exceptionally bad.
We need the Marquette students to step it up. We need them to cheer on the team big time.
I was at the game. The lower part of the student section was not full until a couple minutes into the game. Upper level was bigger than usual but upper student section was pretty much empty. Pathetic.
May be the economy. However, I hear those public school teachers are raking it in...
Rosiak thought the weird start time, Sunday at 3PM contributed to the smaller than usual crowd.
Yeah Sunday 3 pm come on that is an awful game time for students. But I also agree the students now a days here at Marquette are pretty lame. Seem like a bunch of dorks.
i was there, i had a feeling the crowd would be pretty weak but i think the 10-0 start really got everyone into it and the energy stayed for most of the game. for the amount of people that were there the energy was pretty good but we definitely need better attendance wed and next year in general. i think this goes for the students and the non student sections. big east games need to be sold out.
What the hell is Rosiak smoking?
Honestly, we had to ask around if the students were on break or something, they were so bad. The lower student section was 90% full .. the upper was 3% full. I'm gonna say it was the worst Big East student section this year, easy. (Minus the xmas break ones.)
The rest of the Bradley Center was decently full .. lower bowl was 99% .. upper bowl was maybe 75%. Official attendance 16,800. -- Since the floor is 13000, that means there was 3800 single tickets/walkups.
Not packed, but decent crowd for UProv. It's the students that didn't show today.
The only thing the students got excited about was Frozena coming into the game (which never ceases to be embarrassing). Weak turnout and weak support for a team that played with a lot of heart -only one more home game left - where was everybody?
I was in the student section, as usual, and the attendance was extremely weak. There are two reasons why a ton of students they were missing this game:
a) They think they have a lot of school work to do
b) They think Marquette has little to no chance for an NCAA tournament bid
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Both reasons are complete bullsh*t. My roommate is a civil engineer and has three exams in the next four days, including an advanced physics exam tomorrow. It was never a consideration for him to miss that game. There is no excuse for buying tickets and not taking 150 minutes out of a weekend day to watch MUBB. It's a bunch of communication and business majors that like to pretend they're swamped with work to do. As for the other reason, anybody that thought that at any point this season doesn't deserve to see the bball team live. It's time to take the upper deck away and let the real fans come to the games. Hell, raise the student ticket prices if they must.
Not only was the UD virtually empty, there was an entire section (behind the band) that literally zero students were in until tip, when it finally filled up about half way.
I will say that I was relatively pleased with the volume of the students that were there, but that isn't difficult when MU is blowing a team out by 20+ points.
Quote from: ChuckyChip on February 27, 2011, 05:49:41 PM
The only thing the students got excited about was Frozena coming into the game (which never ceases to be embarrassing). Weak turnout and weak support for a team that played with a lot of heart -only one more home game left - where was everybody?
The Rob Frozena chant is completely embarrassing and I refuse to be a part of it.
Also: apparently Evans Scholars are given the front row of the lower center (main) student section. This practice needs to be put to rest, they are horrible. The only fans that should be eligible for that section in general are those who have missed one or zero games all year.
I went to the Louisville game last year, which wasn't full (about as full as it was today) and it was louder than I've ever seen or heard it.
Then we had this exact same thread about how quiet it supposedly was, despite me never feeling that way. We could use an attendance bump, but the games still have great atmosphere
Quote from: SacWarrior on February 27, 2011, 05:56:11 PM
I went to the Louisville game last year, which wasn't full (about as full as it was today) and it was louder than I've ever seen or heard it.
Then we had this exact same thread about how quiet it supposedly was, despite me never feeling that way. We could use an attendance bump, but the games still have great atmosphere
Eh, I was in the lower center student section for that game, and I remember it being much more full than today. Great energy at that game, either way.
It was pretty embarrassing when the crowd went wild as Frozena came in. It was easily the loudest the crowd was the entire afternoon.
You know what I don't like, the band. Man, I think it's time to complain about the band again.
Seriously folks, let this one go. Even if you don't like the student section, they're in the game a millions time more than we alums at the game. I mean, I'm a season ticket holder and I can attest to just sitting back and watching the game at times, and am no where near as intense as the student section.
I'm a student and chose to watch it on my couch instead of going to the BC. I was too lazy to go to the game. Does that settle anything?
Quote from: C League Champs on February 27, 2011, 06:23:30 PM
I'm a student and chose to watch it on my couch instead of going to the BC. I was too lazy to go to the game. Does that settle anything?
BUM! What the heck else did you have to do today?!?!
This. I always try to go to the games, and have made it to almost every game I physically could. But I know tons of students who cannot say the same thing, and most of them have season tickets. Most still watch on tv, just don't go to the game.
I honestly think most of that has to do with not being ranked all season. As sad as it is, that would help get the less devoted fans more excited about games. The crowds will be rowdy again before long.
Bunch of slacked jaw nerds,,, half these 18, 19 yr olds are given and addicted to legalized speed and they still can't show some emotion for 2 hours.
I swear to god if I have to start throwing adderall stuffed marshmallows at the student section I'm going to be pissed.
What I wouldn't give to be a student again and be able to walk to the games. I still remember standing outside the BC in single digit temps for hours waiting to see the MU Louisville game during the Final Four season. Pretty sure it took me a couple weeks to warm back up but it was totally worth it.
I'm a season ticket holder but live down in Chicago now and life just doesn't let me get to as many games as I'd like.
I blame Wall Street. Economy is in the crapper, forcing MU to recruit more rich jagbags who would rather sleep till 5pm on a Sunday, than actually waddle their smug ass 7 blocks to watch a basketball game.
Quote from: reinko on February 27, 2011, 07:25:20 PM
I'm blame Wall Street. Economy is the crapper, forcing MU to recruit more jagbags who would rather sleep till 5pm on a Sunday, than actually waddle their smug ass 7 blocks to watch a basketball game.
You're assuming it is guys that did not show up. Maybe it was the girls as they wanted to get everything done this afternoon so they could watch the red carpet show and the Oscars tonight.
Speaking of weird game time...how fucking busy was downtown Milwaukee today?
Marquette game, Auto Show, Mummies & the last day for the circus.
Quote from: mugrad2006 on February 27, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
What I wouldn't give to be a student again and be able to walk to the games. I still remember standing outside the BC in single digit temps for hours waiting to see the MU Louisville game during the Final Four season. Pretty sure it took me a couple weeks to warm back up but it was totally worth it.
Same here, and you could drink in line as well.
Any student who reads this board is probably going to the games anyway. Why bother preaching to the choir?
We're mobilizing the true crazies, so we can start busting balls (nips).
I drive up and back from Chicago for every home game (minus a game here or there). I noted to a friend of mine that it seemed the crowd was a little anxious and quiet prior to the start. Awkwardly so. At one point I think everyone in the BC could hear me clap, as no one was making a sound.
Our team has been uncertain all year. Lots of whats, ifs and hows. I think the crowd reflects the uncertainty of the team.
It wasn't the worst today and wasn't the best.
The students who were there were fine and I commend them for their support. The criticism isn't directed at them. We were talking about the lack of students as well with the people around us. One man told my friend that he was meeting his daughter at halftime and she asked him that day what time the game was at - what's with that!
There were hardly any students in the upper bowl, and they didn't fill the lower bowl. As previously stated, they didn't even fill the section behind the band - how does that look? Why they couldn't get out on a Sunday afternoon, I have no idea, but I was floored by the lack of student attendance. I wondered if they were going to blame the circus, the auto show, or the kids show at the performing arts center.
Enough of the "my class is better than yours" bullsh*t. It's a different time and culture with different circumstances. If MU was ranked top 10 and winning a National Championship or making it to the Final Four, the students would be filling up the BC.
We should focus on ways to get these lazy asses down to watch. Nobody has a bad time when they do.
Quote from: RyanConroy on February 27, 2011, 05:51:17 PM
Also: apparently Evans Scholars are given the front row of the lower center (main) student section. This practice needs to be put to rest, they are horrible. The only fans that should be eligible for that section in general are those who have missed one or zero games all year.
Ryan, you're a moron. The Evans Scholars aren't given anything. They show up extremely early in order to secure those spots. My son was an Evans Scholar and although on occassion they'd have required events which made them miss a few games, when they're able to, they show up 6, 8, 10, 12, or more hours early to get those seats. If you really want to get those seats, don't show up at gametime; put on some gloves and a hat and wait in line like the true fans
Quote from: MU PoopScoop on February 27, 2011, 03:46:02 PM
We should probably stop announcing the "best student section in the country" before every game. At this point, it just sort of sounds tacky.
They stopped that quite awhile ago, they now say best student section in the county.
I don't understand this conversation.
As I noted before ... MU's undergrad enrollment is 7,800. the student section at the BC is 4,100. The BC's capacity is 19,000
The BC had 12,000 to 13,000 in the house (per Rosiak's estimate) and sold 16,800 tickets.
From other posts, it sounds like the student section was 75% full. If so, how does a 1,000 more kids change anything. Their would still be 4,000 to 5,000 empty seats.
Are you saying 12,000 to 13,000 is pathetic but 13,000 to 14,000 is great?
So, unless I'm missing this point of this conversation, how do 7,800 students that are allotted 4,100 tickets fill a 19,000 seat arena? This doesn't add up.
Well, if the students wonder why their seating never improves this year is a good example. Reallly pathetic turnout for a team right in the NCAA hunt.
Quote from: mundelein jerry on February 27, 2011, 08:23:11 PM
Ryan, you're a moron. The Evans Scholars aren't given anything. They show up extremely early in order to secure those spots. My son was an Evans Scholar and although on occassion they'd have required events which made them miss a few games, when they're able to, they show up 6, 8, 10, 12, or more hours early to get those seats. If you really want to get those seats, don't show up at gametime; put on some gloves and a hat and wait in line like the true fans
Hope while they're waiting in line, the caddies at least clean the dirt off of some balls.
Lets be above the name calling, we're all trying to accomplish the same goal: get a mass of people to get off facebook, and get drunk and get to the game.
We need more go-getters like Ryan on here, showing some emotion and want-to....Ryan I applaud your idea, all scholars should be moved to the rafters...
On to the next subject....
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 27, 2011, 08:30:31 PM
From other posts, it sounds like the student section was 75% full. If so, how does a 1,000 more kids change anything. Their would still be 4,000 to 5,000 empty seats.
FYI .. The student section wasn't anywhere near 75% full. It was probably UNDER 50%. The upper bowl, which is the bigger of the two bowls for students, was like 3% full. The lower bowl SS was maybe 95% full. Net, net, maybe 45% full. Just fyi.
Quote from: mundelein jerry on February 27, 2011, 08:23:11 PM
Ryan, you're a moron. The Evans Scholars aren't given anything. They show up extremely early in order to secure those spots. My son was an Evans Scholar and although on occassion they'd have required events which made them miss a few games, when they're able to, they show up 6, 8, 10, 12, or more hours early to get those seats. If you really want to get those seats, don't show up at gametime; put on some gloves and a hat and wait in line like the true fans
I've heard differently from at least three staff members. I don't show up at gametime, I'm five rows behind them every game, so I can actually see above the cheerleaders cones. Every game, a quarter of that section is silent. It's very frustrating. Every students' eyes are upon that area, whoever is sitting there needs to be a model for everybody else.
Cheerleaders cones. Hee Hee.
Haha, I was going to call then loudspeakers or voice amplifiers, but those didn't seem right either.
Quote from: reinko on February 27, 2011, 08:41:48 PM
Cheerleaders cones. Hee Hee.
Certainly isn't referencing MU cheerleaders.
I've been to every home game and it is disheartening to see such low attendance in the student section.
I don't get the excuse "students don't go to games because they don't think they will get an NCAA bid." How lame is that.
The truth of the matter is...this team is fighting to get that bid and you would think that the student section would be filled to the brim being as loud as they possibly can....especially these last several home games.
I certainly hope the BC will be sold out Wednesday night.
Oh, and I was home in time to watch the pre-oscar shows on tv........another lame excuse if you ask me.
84. There were about 1,100 students at the game today.
Quote from: RyanConroy on February 27, 2011, 08:40:10 PM
I've heard differently from at least three staff members. I don't show up at gametime, I'm five rows behind them every game, so I can actually see above the cheerleaders cones. Every game, a quarter of that section is silent. It's very frustrating. Every students' eyes are upon that area, whoever is sitting there needs to be a model for everybody else.
You're hilarious. You want to single out a group of individuals because the seating is general admission and they are committed to showing up earlier than you, but in the next breath you want to complain about how Marquette fans aren't committed enough to showing up to games. The fact that the Evans Scholars are consistently at the games getting the front row should reflect that they are not the issue here, which is about needing a bigger, better student section (because ours is pitiful). I'm one of those Scholars who sits in front and I am proud to say that I lose my voice often at games due to cheering, members of the administration have contacted us about coming to other sporting events in order to bring this same energy to their crowds... or if you don't believe my word, watch http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102610aad.html Episode 17, and you'll notice the same scholars who got to the Wisconsin game 16.5 hours early in order to get the spots we always sit in.
And by section, do you mean the two rows/8 seats that we take up on the left side? There is plenty of space on the right side if you were also committed to showing up that early and being a role model since "Every students' eyes are upon that area" but I certainly don't recognize you as one of the people who get there early, so I'm just wasting my time answering your whining.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 27, 2011, 08:36:39 PM
FYI .. The student section wasn't anywhere near 75% full. It was probably UNDER 50%. The upper bowl, which is the bigger of the two bowls for students, was like 3% full. The lower bowl SS was maybe 95% full. Net, net, maybe 45% full. Just fyi.
Way too generous, topper... the only students in the upper bowl were the ones holding a letter to the "fight hunger" banner. That's 11 students, unless one of them was holding two letters; in that case, there was only 10.
yes, channel this anger Ryan and putter kid.........this is the emotion we need at the game. Yes, come WED I want to see dudes throwing bows, dudes and chicks making out after every bucket.
If this energy is not there on wednesday, I will go to the top section and throw popcorn on you.
just a question, but has buzz embraced the students? does he get out on campus, and talk to them - do the pizza parties, etc.?
Tommy Boy was good doing that
Quote from: Stone Cold on February 27, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
yes, channel this anger Ryan and putter kid.........this is the emotion we need at the game. Yes, come WED I want to see dudes throwing bows, dudes and chicks making out after every bucket.
If this energy is not there on wednesday, I will go to the top section and throw popcorn on you.
Maybe we can get some Tyshawn action goin' on right here in the BC?
These threads have no credibility as I was at many games with good energy and crowds only to come back to my computer and read exactly the same things as I'm reading here.
And, to prove the point that the crowd sucks, the crowd keeps dwindling from post to post.
Rosiak blogs the student section is full and the rest was not.
MU_Hilltopper Posts
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24883.msg276937#msg276937
Honestly, we had to ask around if the students were on break or something, they were so bad. The lower student section was 90% full .. the upper was 3% full. I'm gonna say it was the worst Big East student section this year, easy. (Minus the xmas break ones.)
The rest of the Bradley Center was decently full .. lower bowl was 99% .. upper bowl was maybe 75%. Official attendance 16,800. -- Since the floor is 13000, that means there was 3800 single tickets/walkups.
This was confusing which is why I thought we downgraded "full" to "75% full"
Later MU_Hilltopper clarifies
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24883.msg277068#msg277068
The student section wasn't anywhere near 75% full. It was probably UNDER 50%. The upper bowl, which is the bigger of the two bowls for students, was like 3% full. The lower bowl SS was maybe 95% full. Net, net, maybe 45% full.
Since the student section is 4100, 45% to 50% is 2000.
Since this doesn't sound extreme enough, marqptm cuts it in half again!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24883.msg277103#msg277103
84. There were about 1,100 students at the game today.
Finally Benny B goes another step, only 10 people were in the upper bowl!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24883.msg277113#msg277113
Way too generous, topper... the only students in the upper bowl were the ones holding a letter to the "fight hunger" banner. That's 11 students, unless one of them was holding two letters; in that case, there was only 10.
How long until we have posters correcting me and saying that MU played in an empty arena?
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This is why these threads have no credibility. You scream the students section sucks every game. Many of those games I was at and these threads are just plain wrong.
Today, with MU playing a crappy team, in a game they were never behind, and completely outclassed in a blow out, the whining about the student section starts again.
Seems the students were correct to blow off this game. Prov. was no match and their was really nothing to cheer about or expend energy about as we were always in the lead and the game was never in doubt.
Now, if we get a repeat against Cincy Wednesday night, you might have a point. Problem is no matter what happens Wednesday, their will be a thread that the student section sucked.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on February 27, 2011, 09:59:33 PM
Maybe we can get some Tyshawn action goin' on right here in the BC?
I don't know if we need rock out with your cock out level emotion.
But if we do, we need the university to support these kids. They deserve our support.
Well, I was at the game. I would concur that there were about 10 students in the upper bowl and, as I said before, the lower bowl student section had plenty of empty seats in it.
There were plenty of other empty seats in the upper bowl, but the lack of students was obvious and very disheartening.
Make of my observations whatever you choose to make of them.
I love how this board has nothing to complain about, so it lashes out at fans that did not show up for a Sunday Game against a 3-13 BE Opponent.
Quote from: Doris Burkes Thong on February 27, 2011, 05:14:48 PM
Bottom line is it's just hard to fill the BC against a team like Providence unless it's senior day, Fr. Wild night, or ChicosBailBonds day.
I'd go to ChicosBailBonds Day 100 times over! Advertise and market it and you'll get Disco Demolition Night II.
Seriously, the Bradley Center was not built for playing Providence, or South Dakota State. Marquette could play those games in the Arena and still have empty seats. It was built for Syracuse, Georgetown, Notre Dame and others, where a good MU team will fill the place to the rafters.
I think 13,000 people on a Sunday afternoon for Marquette against a sub-par Big East team was a great draw. Besides, the alternative was staying home and watching TV Tommy get his head handed to him by Ohio State.
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 27, 2011, 10:15:07 PM
I think 13,000 people on a Sunday afternoon for Marquette against a sub-par Big East team was a great draw. Besides, the alternative was staying home and watching TV Tommy get his head handed to him by Ohio State.
+1
If their was two homes games on the BE schedule to blow off, they were DePaul and Prov. And, the wild crowd was not needed for a win in these games. Both were laughers.
I'll come back to what I've said before ... you all want a school with 8,000 undergrads to pack 12,000 to 14,000 students in the BC. Maybe we should worry about MU's Math department because many here seem to have a basic counting problem.
AddAnd remember that was 13,000 in attendance with 16,800 tickets sold.
I went to the ND game in south bend. The Joyce center seats 9,000, it was not sold out and their were hundreds of MU fans, so many that our noise annoyed the ND faithful.
MU fans are among the best in the BE.
Quote from: mviale on February 27, 2011, 10:12:06 PM
I love how this board has nothing to complain about, so it lashes out at fans that did not show up for a Sunday Game against a 3-13 BE Opponent.
Well, its a pretty easy target. I arrived just at tipoff and the first thing I said to my friend was how pathetic the student section looked. I normally don't join these threads, but it was a late weekend day game (so being hungover isn't a problem), wasn't break, and wasn't midterms or finals. Yet, the whole section behind the band was empty. I just couldn't understand it.
If you're gonna talk down to people, might want to get that reading comprehension thing down.
No one said they wanted 13K students. You're making stuff up.
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 27, 2011, 10:34:51 PM
If you're gonna talk down to people, might want to get that reading comprehension thing down.
No one said they wanted 13K students. You're making stuff up.
Go back and read all the threads on this subject. Their are many of them. They most certainly do complain that the adults sit on their hands, look bad on TV and wish the students sat in the good seats.
That means they want the place packed with students and I'm the only one that has pointed out the math problem with these complaints.
I get the sense you're all getting pissed at me for supporting MU around here. Imagine that, ripping someone on a MU message board for supporting MU.
And, for the record, I only started calling out posters a few months ago when I could not take all the stupid criticism around here.
I liked it better here two years ago. The level of discourse was much better and the criticism was reasoned and thoughtful. Not crap like this thread after a blow out win against a crappy second rate team.
Everyone is getting bent of shape that the kids blew off a 3-13 team?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 27, 2011, 10:49:58 PM
Go back and read all the threads on this subject. Their are many of them. They most certainly do complain that the adults sit on their hands, look bad on TV and wish the students sat in the good seats.
That means they want the place packed with students and I'm the only one that has pointed out the math problem with these complaints.
I have read it, and I'm not sure where you're getting that leap. What I saw is people want the students to pack their own section.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 27, 2011, 08:30:31 PM
I don't understand this conversation.
As I noted before ... MU's undergrad enrollment is 7,800. the student section at the BC is 4,100. The BC's capacity is 19,000
The BC had 12,000 to 13,000 in the house (per Rosiak's estimate) and sold 16,800 tickets.
From other posts, it sounds like the student section was 75% full. If so, how does a 1,000 more kids change anything. Their would still be 4,000 to 5,000 empty seats.
Are you saying 12,000 to 13,000 is pathetic but 13,000 to 14,000 is great?
So, unless I'm missing this point of this conversation, how do 7,800 students that are allotted 4,100 tickets fill a 19,000 seat arena? This doesn't add up.
Besides maybe Syracuse dome, is the Bradley Center the next biggest arena in the Big East?
Sometimes we play teams that play in a significantly smaller arena, but because of that, it's packed full and really holds in the noise. I could easily see a say 9,000 seat smallish arena packed full being a more intimidating environment to play in on the road.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 27, 2011, 10:02:34 PM
MU_Hilltopper Posts
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24883.msg276937#msg276937
Honestly, we had to ask around if the students were on break or something, they were so bad. The lower student section was 90% full .. the upper was 3% full. I'm gonna say it was the worst Big East student section this year, easy. (Minus the xmas break ones.)
The rest of the Bradley Center was decently full .. lower bowl was 99% .. upper bowl was maybe 75%. Official attendance 16,800. -- Since the floor is 13000, that means there was 3800 single tickets/walkups.
This was confusing which is why I thought we downgraded "full" to "75% full"
Later MU_Hilltopper clarifies
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24883.msg277068#msg277068
The student section wasn't anywhere near 75% full. It was probably UNDER 50%. The upper bowl, which is the bigger of the two bowls for students, was like 3% full. The lower bowl SS was maybe 95% full. Net, net, maybe 45% full.
The reason you were confused was due to your not reading the sentence:
The rest of the Bradley Center was decently full .. lower bowl was 99% .. upper bowl was maybe 75%.
If you missed the word "decently" it would have taken on a different meaning. And the phrase "the rest of the BC" is also important.
I'll try again:
The rest of the Bradley Center (the non-student parts) was decently (not completely) full .. lower bowl (non-student parts) was 99% full .. upper bowl (non-student parts) was maybe 75%.
.. I'm a frequent observer of BC crowds, as I go to all the games. Today's non-student crowd was good. Not packed, but solid. The student section .. as I said, worst BE student section this year.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 27, 2011, 11:04:42 PM
The reason you were confused was due to your not reading the sentence:
The rest of the Bradley Center was decently full .. lower bowl was 99% .. upper bowl was maybe 75%.
If you missed the word "decently" it would have taken on a different meaning. And the phrase "the rest of the BC" is also important.
I'll try again:
The rest of the Bradley Center (the non-student parts) was decently (not completely) full .. lower bowl (non-student parts) was 99% full .. upper bowl (non-student parts) was maybe 75%.
.. I'm a frequent observer of BC crowds, as I go to all the games. Today's non-student crowd was good. Not packed, but solid. The student section .. as I said, worst BE student section this year.
Would you say the lower bowl student section which holds approximately 1,100 was full? Also, that the upper bowl student section was desolate?
If so, AMU84 might be able to figure out numbers.
Quote from: El Duderino on February 27, 2011, 11:01:52 PM
Besides maybe Syracuse dome, is the Bradley Center the next biggest arena in the Big East?
Sometimes we play teams that play in a significantly smaller arena, but because of that, it's packed full and really holds in the noise. I could easily see a say 9,000 seat smallish arena packed full being a more intimidating environment to play in on the road.
Move back to the Arena? Then we lose the revenue of 5,000 tickets a game. Assume $20 ticket, that is $100,000 a game. Times 16 home games, that means a loss of $1.6 million in revenue.
That would devastate the program.
Eventually we would wind up in the Horizon league playing at the Al.
The student section was indeed a poor turnout. Today none of the students (or most the other fans, for that matter) even got excited until someone dunked it. Yes, I understand Providence is not a big-name attraction but a Big East game is still a BIG EAST game and fan support is definitely one factor in how the game pans out. Hope fans come in full force on Wednesday because MU needs this one so they don't fall into a possible must-win situation at Seton Hall.
Quote from: goodlknx1 on February 27, 2011, 09:17:01 PM
You're hilarious. You want to single out a group of individuals because the seating is general admission and they are committed to showing up earlier than you, but in the next breath you want to complain about how Marquette fans aren't committed enough to showing up to games. The fact that the Evans Scholars are consistently at the games getting the front row should reflect that they are not the issue here, which is about needing a bigger, better student section (because ours is pitiful). I'm one of those Scholars who sits in front and I am proud to say that I lose my voice often at games due to cheering, members of the administration have contacted us about coming to other sporting events in order to bring this same energy to their crowds... or if you don't believe my word, watch http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102610aad.html Episode 17, and you'll notice the same scholars who got to the Wisconsin game 16.5 hours early in order to get the spots we always sit in.
And by section, do you mean the two rows/8 seats that we take up on the left side? There is plenty of space on the right side if you were also committed to showing up that early and being a role model since "Every students' eyes are upon that area" but I certainly don't recognize you as one of the people who get there early, so I'm just wasting my time answering your whining.
Then good. I absolutely cannot argue with that. I appreciate your support. I apologize for discussing a matter in which I was not as versed as I should have been. I've just been fuc**ng frustrated with the fan support. Even with some of my friends who are usually die hard. And I go in the southwest gate rather than southeast, but I will end this post there. (I will say, certain professors should definitely shut their mouths..)
Quote from: RyanConroy on February 28, 2011, 12:41:21 AM
Then good. I absolutely cannot argue with that. I appreciate your support. I apologize for discussing a matter in which I was not as versed as I should have been. I've just been fuc**ng frustrated with the fan support. Even with some of my friends who are usually die hard. And I go in the southwest gate rather than southeast, but I will end this post there. (I will say, certain professors should definitely shut their mouths..)
Southeast is where it's at. You have a huge advantage at getting to the seats.
Quote from: El Duderino on February 27, 2011, 11:01:52 PM
Besides maybe Syracuse dome, is the Bradley Center the next biggest arena in the Big East?
Sometimes we play teams that play in a significantly smaller arena, but because of that, it's packed full and really holds in the noise. I could easily see a say 9,000 seat smallish arena packed full being a more intimidating environment to play in on the road.
Loserville is number 2 at about 22K seats in their new YUM! center. We have the 3rd biggest arena in the conference and rank 3rd. So were doing what we need to do; still we'd love to see more students come on down.
The Verizon Center (20,173) for Georgetown is slightly bigger than the BC, and so is the Wells Fargo Center (20,444), although Nova obviously doesn't play all their games there.