Best student section in the land?

[MUfan12]

If you're gonna talk down to people, might want to get that reading comprehension thing down.

No one said they wanted 13K students. You're making stuff up.

[Tugg Speedman]

If you're gonna talk down to people, might want to get that reading comprehension thing down.

No one said they wanted 13K students. You're making stuff up.

Go back and read all the threads on this subject.  Their are many of them.  They most certainly do complain that the adults sit on their hands, look bad on TV and wish the students sat in the good seats.  

That means they want the place packed with students and I'm the only one that has pointed out the math problem with these complaints.  

I get the sense you're all getting pissed at me for supporting MU around here.  Imagine that, ripping someone on a MU message board for supporting MU.

And, for the record, I only started calling out posters a few months ago when I could not take all the stupid criticism around here.

I liked it better here two years ago.  The level of discourse was much better and the criticism was reasoned and thoughtful.  Not crap like this thread after a blow out win against a crappy second rate team.

Everyone is getting bent of shape that the kids blew off a 3-13 team?

[MUfan12]

Go back and read all the threads on this subject.  Their are many of them.  They most certainly do complain that the adults sit on their hands, look bad on TV and wish the students sat in the good seats.  

That means they want the place packed with students and I'm the only one that has pointed out the math problem with these complaints.  

I have read it, and I'm not sure where you're getting that leap. What I saw is people want the students to pack their own section.

[El Duderino]

I don't understand this conversation.  

As I noted before ... MU's undergrad enrollment is 7,800.  the student section at the BC is 4,100.  The BC's capacity is 19,000

The BC had 12,000 to 13,000 in the house (per Rosiak's estimate) and sold 16,800 tickets.

From other posts, it sounds like the student section was 75% full.  If so, how does a 1,000 more kids change anything.  Their would still be 4,000 to 5,000 empty seats.

Are you saying 12,000 to 13,000 is pathetic but 13,000 to 14,000 is great?

So, unless I'm missing this point of this conversation, how do 7,800 students that are allotted 4,100 tickets fill a 19,000 seat arena?  This doesn't add up.

Besides maybe Syracuse dome, is the Bradley Center the next biggest arena in the Big East?

Sometimes we play teams that play in a significantly smaller arena, but because of that, it's packed full and really holds in the noise. I could easily see a say 9,000 seat smallish arena packed full being a more intimidating environment to play in on the road.

[mu_hilltopper]

MU_Hilltopper Posts
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24883.msg276937#msg276937

Honestly, we had to ask around if the students were on break or something, they were so bad.  The lower student section was 90% full .. the upper was 3% full.   I'm gonna say it was the worst Big East student section this year, easy. (Minus the xmas break ones.)

The rest of the Bradley Center was decently full .. lower bowl was 99% .. upper bowl was maybe 75%. Official attendance 16,800.  -- Since the floor is 13000, that means there was 3800 single tickets/walkups.

This was confusing which is why I thought we downgraded "full" to "75% full"

Later MU_Hilltopper clarifies
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=24883.msg277068#msg277068

The student section wasn't anywhere near 75% full.  It was probably UNDER 50%.  The upper bowl, which is the bigger of the two bowls for students, was like 3% full.  The lower bowl SS was maybe 95% full.  Net, net, maybe 45% full.

The reason you were confused was due to your not reading the sentence:
The rest of the Bradley Center was decently full .. lower bowl was 99% .. upper bowl was maybe 75%.

If you missed the word "decently" it would have taken on a different meaning.    And the phrase "the rest of the BC" is also important.    

I'll try again:

The rest of the Bradley Center (the non-student parts) was decently (not completely) full .. lower bowl (non-student parts) was 99% full .. upper bowl (non-student parts) was maybe 75%.

.. I'm a frequent observer of BC crowds, as I go to all the games.  Today's non-student crowd was good.  Not packed, but solid.    The student section .. as I said, worst BE student section this year.

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The reason you were confused was due to your not reading the sentence:
The rest of the Bradley Center was decently full .. lower bowl was 99% .. upper bowl was maybe 75%.

If you missed the word "decently" it would have taken on a different meaning.    And the phrase "the rest of the BC" is also important.    

I'll try again:

The rest of the Bradley Center (the non-student parts) was decently (not completely) full .. lower bowl (non-student parts) was 99% full .. upper bowl (non-student parts) was maybe 75%.

.. I'm a frequent observer of BC crowds, as I go to all the games.  Today's non-student crowd was good.  Not packed, but solid.    The student section .. as I said, worst BE student section this year.

Would you say the lower bowl student section which holds approximately 1,100 was full? Also, that the upper bowl student section was desolate?

If so, AMU84 might be able to figure out numbers.

[Tugg Speedman]

Besides maybe Syracuse dome, is the Bradley Center the next biggest arena in the Big East?

Sometimes we play teams that play in a significantly smaller arena, but because of that, it's packed full and really holds in the noise. I could easily see a say 9,000 seat smallish arena packed full being a more intimidating environment to play in on the road.

Move back to the Arena?  Then we lose the revenue of 5,000 tickets a game.  Assume $20 ticket, that is $100,000 a game.  Times 16 home games, that means a loss of $1.6 million in revenue.

That would devastate the program.   

Eventually we would wind up in the Horizon league playing at the Al.

[KED528]

The student section was indeed a poor turnout. Today none of the students (or most the other fans, for that matter) even got excited until someone dunked it. Yes, I understand Providence is not a big-name attraction but a Big East game is still a BIG EAST game and fan support is definitely one factor in how the game pans out. Hope fans come in full force on Wednesday because MU needs this one so they don't fall into a possible must-win situation at Seton Hall.

[RyanConroy]

You're hilarious.  You want to single out a group of individuals because the seating is general admission and they are committed to showing up earlier than you, but in the next breath you want to complain about how Marquette fans aren't committed enough to showing up to games.  The fact that the Evans Scholars are consistently at the games getting the front row should reflect that they are not the issue here, which is about needing a bigger, better student section (because ours is pitiful).  I'm one of those Scholars who sits in front and I am proud to say that I lose my voice often at games due to cheering, members of the administration have contacted us about coming to other sporting events in order to bring this same energy to their crowds... or if you don't believe my word, watch http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102610aad.html Episode 17, and you'll notice the same scholars who got to the Wisconsin game 16.5 hours early in order to get the spots we always sit in.

And by section, do you mean the two rows/8 seats that we take up on the left side?  There is plenty of space on the right side if you were also committed to showing up that early and being a role model since "Every students' eyes are upon that area" but I certainly don't recognize you as one of the people who get there early, so I'm just wasting my time answering your whining.

Then good. I absolutely cannot argue with that. I appreciate your support. I apologize for discussing a matter in which I was not as versed as I should have been. I've just been fuc**ng frustrated with the fan support. Even with some of my friends who are usually die hard. And I go in the southwest gate rather than southeast, but I will end this post there. (I will say, certain professors should definitely shut their mouths..)

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Then good. I absolutely cannot argue with that. I appreciate your support. I apologize for discussing a matter in which I was not as versed as I should have been. I've just been fuc**ng frustrated with the fan support. Even with some of my friends who are usually die hard. And I go in the southwest gate rather than southeast, but I will end this post there. (I will say, certain professors should definitely shut their mouths..)

Southeast is where it's at. You have a huge advantage at getting to the seats.

[The Man in Gold]

Besides maybe Syracuse dome, is the Bradley Center the next biggest arena in the Big East?

Sometimes we play teams that play in a significantly smaller arena, but because of that, it's packed full and really holds in the noise. I could easily see a say 9,000 seat smallish arena packed full being a more intimidating environment to play in on the road.

Loserville is number 2 at about 22K seats in their new YUM! center.  We have the 3rd biggest arena in the conference and rank 3rd.  So were doing what we need to do; still we'd love to see more students come on down.

[Litehouse]

The Verizon Center (20,173) for Georgetown is slightly bigger than the BC, and so is the Wells Fargo Center (20,444), although Nova obviously doesn't play all their games there.