Hit what might be one of the most important shots of the entire season.
And he's the best passer on the team. Even in traffic, he can find the open man.
It's great to see his progress this season. Leaps and bounds from November.
Junior and Vander showed up tonight
and look what happend.
Junior made a really nice pass to Buycks late in the game on that one fast break. A real crucial basket for MU at the time. I can tell you that no other player on MU's team makes that pass and gives Buycks such a high percentage basket.
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 24, 2011, 08:49:31 PM
Junior and Vander showed up tonight
and look what happend.
And of course "good" DJO resurfaced! But, you could see how proud/happy Buzz was for Junior when he hit that 3. Guts of the game, and a huge shot - and he delivered.
Vander and JC showed up big tonight. VB hit some clutch free throws when things were going to hell, and JC hit a clutch three (I can't believe I typed that) and he made an amazing pass to cut into the league on a fastbreak to Buycks.
DJO definitely deserves SOTG for what he did in OT, but he rode the engine of VB, DB, JC and even Otule to get there.
I really enjoy watching Junior distribute. He is so good with the ball and seems to take smart shots. Huge 3!
Quote from: SacWarrior on February 24, 2011, 08:53:18 PM
DJO definitely deserves SOTG for what he did in OT, but he rode the engine of VB, DB, JC and even Otule to get there.
Agreed, this one took the whole team - but we only allow 1 SOTG (except for the Frozena co-stud controversy).
HUGE shot by Junior, he's going to be a solid pg for us the next two years
Quote from: marquette09 on February 24, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
HUGE shot by Junior, he's going to be a solid pg for us the next two years
I'm sorry but I'm still not sold on Cadougan, what, he makes one 3 and we are ready to annoint him?
other than his passing ability he is still basically worthless offensivley.
Quote from: flash on February 24, 2011, 11:41:33 PM
I'm sorry but I'm still not sold on Cadougan, what, he makes one 3 and we are ready to annoint him?
other than his passing ability he is still basically worthless offensivley.
Well, he has shown the ability to pass in traffic, has been getting to the hoop and finishing more frequently, and hit a nice runner and a 3 tonight. Not sure anyone is annointing him but it is great to see his progress.
Quote from: flash on February 24, 2011, 11:41:33 PM
I'm sorry but I'm still not sold on Cadougan, what, he makes one 3 and we are ready to annoint him?
other than his passing ability he is still basically worthless offensivley.
Quinn Buckner, Marcus Washington...nobody ever called them worthless
Quote from: Ners on February 24, 2011, 08:53:01 PM
And of course "good" DJO resurfaced! But, you could see how proud/happy Buzz was for Junior when he hit that 3. Guts of the game, and a huge shot - and he delivered.
DJO is a stud--but I am worried about his 3 point shooting. I think he was 0-7 yesterday. He did carry the team in OT.
Quote from: warthog-driver on February 25, 2011, 12:11:41 AM
Quinn Buckner, Marcus Washington...nobody ever called them worthless
Rondo in Boston as well.
Quote from: flash on February 24, 2011, 11:41:33 PM
I'm sorry but I'm still not sold on Cadougan, what, he makes one 3 and we are ready to annoint him?
other than his passing ability he is still basically worthless offensivley.
You need to look at more than just the boxscore.
Quote from: warthog-driver on February 25, 2011, 12:11:41 AM
Quinn Buckner, Marcus Washington...nobody ever called them worthless
How about Tony Miller also--he was not a very good shooter but was a great PG?
Quote from: flash on February 24, 2011, 11:41:33 PM
I'm sorry but I'm still not sold on Cadougan, what, he makes one 3 and we are ready to annoint him?
other than his passing ability he is still basically worthless offensivley.
You are absolutely right........if controlling tempo, creating opportunities for others and not turning the ball over despite handling it a lot, with an occasional ability to penetrate a crease and finish don't count for anything.
Quote from: StillWarriors on February 25, 2011, 08:41:21 AM
You are absolutely right........if controlling tempo, creating opportunities for others and not turning the ball over despite handling it a lot, with an occasional ability to penetrate a crease and finish don't count for anything.
Not only that, it's hard to have a ton of assists when nobody can hit a shot.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 25, 2011, 08:09:22 AM
How about Tony Miller also--he was not a very good shooter but was a great PG?
Jason Kidd for the first half of his career. He couldn't shoot a lick.
Confidence is a beautiful thing. JC actually wanted to shoot and looked confident doing it. I remember that shot was from the "extra pass" and JC caught it and shot it like a sharp shooter. I honestly second guessed myself as to who shot the shot when it went it because I am so used to seeing JC deferring.
14 games this year Cadougan has scored 2 points or less, looks to me like he's offensivley challanged, I know he can handle the ball and doesn't turn it over much, but common man, the guy can't score
He's a point guard. His role is to handle the ball and not turn it over. Offense is more than just scoring.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 25, 2011, 01:30:10 PM
He's a point guard. His role is to handle the ball and not turn it over. Offense is more than just scoring.
+1 and they can come up with some big-time big conjones type plays like that 3 pointer last night.
Quote from: flash on February 25, 2011, 01:25:32 PM
14 games this year Cadougan has scored 2 points or less, looks to me like he's offensivley challanged, I know he can handle the ball and doesn't turn it over much, but common man, the guy can't score
Why do you complain about that the day after he hit a HUGE 3 to contribute to a GREAT victory?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 25, 2011, 08:09:22 AM
How about Tony Miller also--he was not a very good shooter but was a great PG?
Tony Miller was surprisingly good in the clutch. No, NO, NO NO great shot!
Quote from: flash on February 25, 2011, 01:25:32 PM
14 games this year Cadougan has scored 2 points or less, looks to me like he's offensivley challanged, I know he can handle the ball and doesn't turn it over much, but common man, the guy can't score
Why cannot you realize that scoring is not his role. You have JFB, Crowder and DJO to score. His job is to distribute, and he does that better than anybody else on the team. As he progresses, I would expect him to average 6 to 8 points per game next year, and increase a bit each year. Next year he will need to get the ball to DJO, Crowder, Wilson and in the post.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 25, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
Why cannot you realize that scoring is not his role. You have JFB, Crowder and DJO to score. His job is to distribute, and he does that better than anybody else on the team. As he progresses, I would expect him to average 6 to 8 points per game next year, and increase a bit each year. Next year he will need to get the ball to DJO, Crowder, Wilson and in the post.
Wow, look at you willie. There is some fanboy in you.
I agree with you. MU has not been big producing Derrick ROse type PGs, but we have had good college PGs most of the time. I would love it if he has the career you outline.
Just listened to JFB on the Homer show. He says Jr. can make that shot--it is worked on every day in practice and he makes many, but he always looks to feed to the open man first--that is his game.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 25, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
Why cannot you realize that scoring is not his role. You have JFB, Crowder and DJO to score. His job is to distribute, and he does that better than anybody else on the team. As he progresses, I would expect him to average 6 to 8 points per game next year, and increase a bit each year. Next year he will need to get the ball to DJO, Crowder, Wilson and in the post.
Also, look at his points in the last 11 games:
9, 4, 7, 2, 0, 4, 4, 4, 0, 4, 5 --- averaging just under 4 points in about 18 minutes a game over the last 11. That's not bad for a first year backup point guard.