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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GoMarquette32 on February 21, 2011, 12:23:58 PM

Title: New espn bracketology
Post by: GoMarquette32 on February 21, 2011, 12:23:58 PM
We are an 11 seed
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 21, 2011, 12:30:12 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)

Vs. Xavier in Charlotte

Other 11 Seeds:
Michigan State
Virginia State
Memphis/Butler (Play-in-game)

Last 4 In:
Memphis
Butler
Boston College
Gonzaga

Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: 🏀 on February 21, 2011, 12:35:57 PM
Big Ten with 6? That's going to be a stretch.

Cincinnatti could easily be switched with us at an 8 seed by the end of the season.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: TallTitan34 on February 21, 2011, 12:39:39 PM
How is Illinois an 8 Seed with losses to UIC, Penn State, Indiana, and Northwestern?
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 21, 2011, 12:43:49 PM
How is Illinois an 8 Seed with losses to UIC, Penn State, Indiana, and Northwestern?

Illinois RPI 41, Ken Pom of 20

RPI Forecast has them as a 7 seed

I continue to believe it's more about the good wins then the bad losses. 

They beat North Carolina, Gonzaga, Wisconsin, Minnesota, etc
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: DCWarriors04 on February 21, 2011, 12:45:08 PM
Depending on how the rest of the Big 10 season pans out, they'll get 4 or 5.

Locks
Ohio St, Purdue, Wisconsin

Bubble teams fighting for 1 or 2 spots
Michigan St, Illinois, Penn St, Minnesota

Personally, I think the Big 10 gets 4, with the last spot going to Michigan St. Hard to bet against Izzo.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: 🏀 on February 21, 2011, 12:49:23 PM
Depending on how the rest of the Big 10 season pans out, they'll get 4 or 5.

Locks
Ohio St, Purdue, Wisconsin

Bubble teams fighting for 1 or 2 spots
Michigan St, Illinois, Penn St, Minnesota

Personally, I think the Big 10 gets 4, with the last spot going to Michigan St. Hard to bet against Izzo.


I know rankings are not good, but god damn they got the Big Ten wrong.

#2 Michigan State
#13 Illinois
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: NCMUFan on February 21, 2011, 01:29:20 PM
To bad who against and where is never correct.  Would love to see MU in Charlotte.  Only good thing of Conf USA days.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: dgies9156 on February 21, 2011, 02:05:37 PM
So we're someone's cannon foddler?

I know the NCAA is trying to find 64 worthy teams from a pool that's got maybe 36 deserving teams. But I keep saying this, as an 11 seed, we're going to be playing a six seed on the road, probably more than 1,000 miles from the Bradley Center.

How many in this room think we can beat Xavier, St. John's, West Virginia or Texas A&M on the road at a neutral court? Yes, I know, we beat West Virginia early... but that was at home! And St. John's was probably the worst home game we played all year.

I'd like to think we could win this one, but before that happens, I think this team has some major maturing to do. Consistency and patience are two essential virtues for the NCAA and, at this time, Marquette has neither.

Speak up if you disagree!
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: Husker4MU on February 21, 2011, 02:11:50 PM
I think we can beat WVU, St. John's, Xavier and A&M on a neutral court.  I would have the least confidence in beating SJU.  Like MU, those are all flawed teams.  We aren't talking about '75 Indiana here...
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: PaintTouches on February 21, 2011, 02:12:02 PM
Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???

Mad? Upset? Furious?

Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 21, 2011, 02:14:06 PM
Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???

Mad? Upset? Furious?


Troll?
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: MisterJaylenBrownMU on February 21, 2011, 02:20:59 PM
Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???

Mad? Upset? Furious?

Communist?
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: willie warrior on February 21, 2011, 02:36:29 PM
Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???

Mad? Upset? Furious?


Add one more for Red. Red=Wisconsin Badgers
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: MUfan12 on February 21, 2011, 02:40:14 PM
Add one more for Red. Red=Wisconsin Badgers

Communist was already said.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: NickelDimer on February 21, 2011, 06:05:03 PM
Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???

Mad? Upset? Furious?



Ovulating?
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: MUSkins on February 21, 2011, 06:09:49 PM
Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???

Mad? Upset? Furious?



Gap marketing strategy disguised as charity?
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 21, 2011, 06:17:43 PM
Depending on how the rest of the Big 10 season pans out, they'll get 4 or 5.

Locks
Ohio St, Purdue, Wisconsin

Bubble teams fighting for 1 or 2 spots
Michigan St, Illinois, Penn St, Minnesota

Personally, I think the Big 10 gets 4, with the last spot going to Michigan St. Hard to bet against Izzo.


They'll get 6
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: 79Warrior on February 21, 2011, 06:35:27 PM
I think we can beat WVU, St. John's, Xavier and A&M on a neutral court.  I would have the least confidence in beating SJU.  Like MU, those are all flawed teams.  We aren't talking about '75 Indiana here...

Well you are awfully optimistic. We have not beaten anyone on the road worth getting excited about. We have two neutral court losses to boot. If we get in, we willl be one and done.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: marquette99 on February 21, 2011, 10:06:35 PM
79warrior - I repeat again - all our road losses are to rpi top 25 teams.  Only 24 teams in the country have won a road game vs. an rpi top 25.

The fact that we lose those games by a few points while most teams lose them by double digits indicates we are a good team away from home.  Take those 6 games to neutral courts and odds are we are 3-3 in them.

I'll take a 50-50 shot against a 6-seed or better.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: BM1090 on February 21, 2011, 10:15:05 PM
They'll get 6

Maybe. If Minnesota loses to MSU tomorrow they will be 6-9 in the big ten. That's tough to overcome. The loser of tomorrow's game is gonna be hurting.

4 are locks: OSU, UW, Purdue, Illinois. MSU or Minnesota will get in. Maybe both. 5 or 6.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: Windyplayer on February 21, 2011, 11:13:52 PM
The Illini are not a lock by any stretch of the imagination. They're looking good but if they lose three of their final four, which is possible, they're on the outside looking in. And they're quality wins are few and far between. The Wisconsin win is the only one that really jumps out at you. If we've learned anything from last year, it's that this team inexplicably falters down the stretch and it could very well happen again this year.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: BallBoy on February 21, 2011, 11:58:01 PM
So we're someone's cannon foddler?
Speak up if you disagree!


Disagree!  What is important to any basketball team?  The NCAA Tournament.  The more times you are in consecutively the better.  Also who assumes it is a guaranteed loss.  Most upsets are the 5-12 or 6-11 variety.  See last year.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: BM1090 on February 22, 2011, 12:16:48 AM
The Illini are not a lock by any stretch of the imagination. They're looking good but if they lose three of their final four, which is possible, they're on the outside looking in. And they're quality wins are few and far between. The Wisconsin win is the only one that really jumps out at you. If we've learned anything from last year, it's that this team inexplicably falters down the stretch and it could very well happen again this year.

I called them a lock because if they get to 9-9 they will be in, and two of the games are home games against Iowa and Indiana. Of course, if they lose out, they will not get in.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: NavinRJohnson on February 22, 2011, 07:50:47 AM
So with Gonzaga showing up this week, that means every team to whom MU is lost is currently projected to make the NCAA, with 10 of 11 currently ranked in the Top 25. I continue to find it difficult to be too upset with the way this season has gone. With a decent finish, they will most assuredly get into the tournament.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: pbiflyer on February 22, 2011, 07:53:59 AM
So with Gonzaga showing up this week, that means every team to whom MU is lost is currently projected to make the NCAA, with 10 of 11 currently ranked in the Top 25. I continue to find it difficult to be too upset with the way this season has gone. With a decent finish, they will most assuredly get into the tournament.


+10000000
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: groove on February 22, 2011, 08:16:19 AM
So with Gonzaga showing up this week, that means every team to whom MU is lost is currently projected to make the NCAA, with 10 of 11 currently ranked in the Top 25. I continue to find it difficult to be too upset with the way this season has gone. With a decent finish, they will most assuredly get into the tournament.

Yeah, I would agree to a certain degree, but eventually if we want to make any strides we have to beat these teams because year in and year out in the Big East a lot of our schedule will be top 25 teams.  So it will get old saying, 'yeah, but 10 of our losses were against really good teams.'
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: Windyplayer on February 22, 2011, 08:19:12 AM
I called them a lock because if they get to 9-9 they will be in, and two of the games are home games against Iowa and Indiana. Of course, if they lose out, they will not get in.
I didn't say they'd lose out, but they'll definitely lose @Purdue and @Ohio State, and IU has already beaten them and Iowa can surprise teams, see MSU game. If they lose three of four and are a one and done in the Big Ten tourney, Weber's is sweating and this team is NIT-bound again.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: Windyplayer on February 22, 2011, 08:20:56 AM
Disagree!  What is important to any basketball team?  The NCAA Tournament.  The more times you are in consecutively the better.  Also who assumes it is a guaranteed loss.  Most upsets are the 5-12 or 6-11 variety.  See last year.
Emphatic +1. The tourney is always a good thing for recruiting and revenue.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: Les Nessman on February 22, 2011, 08:55:43 AM
Emphatic +1. The tourney is always a good thing for recruiting and revenue.

I'm still waiting to find out what the red type means.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: Warrior Farls on February 22, 2011, 12:39:08 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what cannon foddler is.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 22, 2011, 01:47:01 PM
Warrior farls, I've been wondering the same thing but using context clues I realized it's a simple spelling error. He keeps meaning to say cannon fondler.
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: BM1090 on February 22, 2011, 01:52:31 PM
I didn't say they'd lose out, but they'll definitely lose @Purdue and @Ohio State, and IU has already beaten them and Iowa can surprise teams, see MSU game. If they lose three of four and are a one and done in the Big Ten tourney, Weber's is sweating and this team is NIT-bound again.

Agreed. I'm just marking them down for those 2 wins and that's why I'm calling them a lock. If they finish under .500 they are in trouble
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: muboy262 on February 22, 2011, 04:08:46 PM
He keeps meaning to say cannon fondler.

As in Nick Cannon?  ;D
Title: Re: New espn bracketology
Post by: Pakuni on February 22, 2011, 05:14:48 PM
As in Nick Cannon?  ;D

I'm pretty sure he means Frank Cannon.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_S3Fk1v4vsCQ/R58bjYvPTwI/AAAAAAAAByw/655AsKQ9Tek/s400/Cannon.jpg)