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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GoMarquette32 on February 21, 2011, 12:23:58 PM
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We are an 11 seed
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Vs. Xavier in Charlotte
Other 11 Seeds:
Michigan State
Virginia State
Memphis/Butler (Play-in-game)
Last 4 In:
Memphis
Butler
Boston College
Gonzaga
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Big Ten with 6? That's going to be a stretch.
Cincinnatti could easily be switched with us at an 8 seed by the end of the season.
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How is Illinois an 8 Seed with losses to UIC, Penn State, Indiana, and Northwestern?
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How is Illinois an 8 Seed with losses to UIC, Penn State, Indiana, and Northwestern?
Illinois RPI 41, Ken Pom of 20
RPI Forecast has them as a 7 seed
I continue to believe it's more about the good wins then the bad losses.
They beat North Carolina, Gonzaga, Wisconsin, Minnesota, etc
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Depending on how the rest of the Big 10 season pans out, they'll get 4 or 5.
Locks
Ohio St, Purdue, Wisconsin
Bubble teams fighting for 1 or 2 spots
Michigan St, Illinois, Penn St, Minnesota
Personally, I think the Big 10 gets 4, with the last spot going to Michigan St. Hard to bet against Izzo.
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Depending on how the rest of the Big 10 season pans out, they'll get 4 or 5.
Locks
Ohio St, Purdue, Wisconsin
Bubble teams fighting for 1 or 2 spots
Michigan St, Illinois, Penn St, Minnesota
Personally, I think the Big 10 gets 4, with the last spot going to Michigan St. Hard to bet against Izzo.
I know rankings are not good, but god damn they got the Big Ten wrong.
#2 Michigan State
#13 Illinois
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To bad who against and where is never correct. Would love to see MU in Charlotte. Only good thing of Conf USA days.
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So we're someone's cannon foddler?
I know the NCAA is trying to find 64 worthy teams from a pool that's got maybe 36 deserving teams. But I keep saying this, as an 11 seed, we're going to be playing a six seed on the road, probably more than 1,000 miles from the Bradley Center.
How many in this room think we can beat Xavier, St. John's, West Virginia or Texas A&M on the road at a neutral court? Yes, I know, we beat West Virginia early... but that was at home! And St. John's was probably the worst home game we played all year.
I'd like to think we could win this one, but before that happens, I think this team has some major maturing to do. Consistency and patience are two essential virtues for the NCAA and, at this time, Marquette has neither.
Speak up if you disagree!
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I think we can beat WVU, St. John's, Xavier and A&M on a neutral court. I would have the least confidence in beating SJU. Like MU, those are all flawed teams. We aren't talking about '75 Indiana here...
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Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???
Mad? Upset? Furious?
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Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???
Mad? Upset? Furious?
Troll?
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Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???
Mad? Upset? Furious?
Communist?
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Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???
Mad? Upset? Furious?
Add one more for Red. Red=Wisconsin Badgers
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Add one more for Red. Red=Wisconsin Badgers
Communist was already said.
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Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???
Mad? Upset? Furious?
Ovulating?
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Teal=Sarcasm
Red=???
Mad? Upset? Furious?
Gap marketing strategy disguised as charity?
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Depending on how the rest of the Big 10 season pans out, they'll get 4 or 5.
Locks
Ohio St, Purdue, Wisconsin
Bubble teams fighting for 1 or 2 spots
Michigan St, Illinois, Penn St, Minnesota
Personally, I think the Big 10 gets 4, with the last spot going to Michigan St. Hard to bet against Izzo.
They'll get 6
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I think we can beat WVU, St. John's, Xavier and A&M on a neutral court. I would have the least confidence in beating SJU. Like MU, those are all flawed teams. We aren't talking about '75 Indiana here...
Well you are awfully optimistic. We have not beaten anyone on the road worth getting excited about. We have two neutral court losses to boot. If we get in, we willl be one and done.
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79warrior - I repeat again - all our road losses are to rpi top 25 teams. Only 24 teams in the country have won a road game vs. an rpi top 25.
The fact that we lose those games by a few points while most teams lose them by double digits indicates we are a good team away from home. Take those 6 games to neutral courts and odds are we are 3-3 in them.
I'll take a 50-50 shot against a 6-seed or better.
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They'll get 6
Maybe. If Minnesota loses to MSU tomorrow they will be 6-9 in the big ten. That's tough to overcome. The loser of tomorrow's game is gonna be hurting.
4 are locks: OSU, UW, Purdue, Illinois. MSU or Minnesota will get in. Maybe both. 5 or 6.
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The Illini are not a lock by any stretch of the imagination. They're looking good but if they lose three of their final four, which is possible, they're on the outside looking in. And they're quality wins are few and far between. The Wisconsin win is the only one that really jumps out at you. If we've learned anything from last year, it's that this team inexplicably falters down the stretch and it could very well happen again this year.
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So we're someone's cannon foddler?
Speak up if you disagree!
Disagree! What is important to any basketball team? The NCAA Tournament. The more times you are in consecutively the better. Also who assumes it is a guaranteed loss. Most upsets are the 5-12 or 6-11 variety. See last year.
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The Illini are not a lock by any stretch of the imagination. They're looking good but if they lose three of their final four, which is possible, they're on the outside looking in. And they're quality wins are few and far between. The Wisconsin win is the only one that really jumps out at you. If we've learned anything from last year, it's that this team inexplicably falters down the stretch and it could very well happen again this year.
I called them a lock because if they get to 9-9 they will be in, and two of the games are home games against Iowa and Indiana. Of course, if they lose out, they will not get in.
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So with Gonzaga showing up this week, that means every team to whom MU is lost is currently projected to make the NCAA, with 10 of 11 currently ranked in the Top 25. I continue to find it difficult to be too upset with the way this season has gone. With a decent finish, they will most assuredly get into the tournament.
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So with Gonzaga showing up this week, that means every team to whom MU is lost is currently projected to make the NCAA, with 10 of 11 currently ranked in the Top 25. I continue to find it difficult to be too upset with the way this season has gone. With a decent finish, they will most assuredly get into the tournament.
+10000000
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So with Gonzaga showing up this week, that means every team to whom MU is lost is currently projected to make the NCAA, with 10 of 11 currently ranked in the Top 25. I continue to find it difficult to be too upset with the way this season has gone. With a decent finish, they will most assuredly get into the tournament.
Yeah, I would agree to a certain degree, but eventually if we want to make any strides we have to beat these teams because year in and year out in the Big East a lot of our schedule will be top 25 teams. So it will get old saying, 'yeah, but 10 of our losses were against really good teams.'
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I called them a lock because if they get to 9-9 they will be in, and two of the games are home games against Iowa and Indiana. Of course, if they lose out, they will not get in.
I didn't say they'd lose out, but they'll definitely lose @Purdue and @Ohio State, and IU has already beaten them and Iowa can surprise teams, see MSU game. If they lose three of four and are a one and done in the Big Ten tourney, Weber's is sweating and this team is NIT-bound again.
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Disagree! What is important to any basketball team? The NCAA Tournament. The more times you are in consecutively the better. Also who assumes it is a guaranteed loss. Most upsets are the 5-12 or 6-11 variety. See last year.
Emphatic +1. The tourney is always a good thing for recruiting and revenue.
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Emphatic +1. The tourney is always a good thing for recruiting and revenue.
I'm still waiting to find out what the red type means.
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I'm still trying to figure out what cannon foddler is.
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Warrior farls, I've been wondering the same thing but using context clues I realized it's a simple spelling error. He keeps meaning to say cannon fondler.
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I didn't say they'd lose out, but they'll definitely lose @Purdue and @Ohio State, and IU has already beaten them and Iowa can surprise teams, see MSU game. If they lose three of four and are a one and done in the Big Ten tourney, Weber's is sweating and this team is NIT-bound again.
Agreed. I'm just marking them down for those 2 wins and that's why I'm calling them a lock. If they finish under .500 they are in trouble
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He keeps meaning to say cannon fondler.
As in Nick Cannon? ;D
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As in Nick Cannon? ;D
I'm pretty sure he means Frank Cannon.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_S3Fk1v4vsCQ/R58bjYvPTwI/AAAAAAAAByw/655AsKQ9Tek/s400/Cannon.jpg)