Thats a crappy call
Come on....
Horrible call.
Huh? Free points for Georgetown?
I'm a little late today, shut it down, it's all wrong
unnatural carnal knowledge that noise. that was a 5 point swing and took away a ton of momentum. bogus call
5 extra points for Georgetown.
Huge 5 point swing.
We haven't been getting alot of help from the zebras, even Patrick and Elmore are calling it out
Quote from: timinatorx3 on February 13, 2011, 12:38:12 PM
Huh? Free points for Georgetown?
5 free points. Huge swing. They go from down 8 to down 3.
the thing that pisses me off the most is it wasnt even a full goggle
We better not see any uncalled celebration on the other side of the floor.
How did DJO get a tech for that and Lubick didn't get one for pulling himself up and slapping the backboard after a dunk?
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 13, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
How did DJO get a tech for that and Lubick didn't get one for pulling himself up and slapping the backboard after a dunk?
hometown reffin'
Good response by MU after the 5 point swing. Keep hustling Vander!
T up JFB for too much emphasis on the emphatic dunk!
I keep thinking another one is coming after every big bucket by either team. That tech was just so out of nowhere. It wasn't like it was a chippy game or things were getting out of hand.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 13, 2011, 12:43:29 PM
How did DJO get a tech for that and Lubick didn't get one for pulling himself up and slapping the backboard after a dunk?
Yeah that moron actually smacked his head on the backboard when he did that.
What an BS call.
ESPN showed Lubick slapping the backboard just now going into break.
What a joke.
It's been a poorly officiated game. I guess dunking, hanging, and slapping the backboard is not taunting.
Technical was for his love for Wes - I guess that's over
Hometown ref---what a dipstick!
We are getting jobbed by the refs right now. Its clear they are trying to keep it close, seeing MU is getting 6 from the bookies! Complete hogwash.
Quote from: DiaperDandy on February 13, 2011, 01:16:45 PM
We are getting jobbed by the refs right now. Its clear they are trying to keep it close, seeing MU is getting 6 from the bookies! Complete hogwash.
Ah the predictable lament....
surprised there's no T for DJO screaming after the dunk
It was only 2 points for G'town. G'town would've had the ball anyways after the DJO three.
who is the ref who has called the T, the double foul on gardner and the other assortment of bull calls
he is awful today
Haha you know it a questionable call when non-partial commentators are questioning the calls made by the officials. The sad thing is that this has happened a number of times in this game.
Crappy officials all the breaks going there way Butler should have been a no call . We never quit,but sure lose a lot of close games..we look better as a team,but just can't win...
Quote from: Randy on February 13, 2011, 02:11:13 PM
Crappy officials all the breaks going there way Butler should have been a no call . We never quit,but sure lose a lot of close games..we look better as a team,but just can't win...
No actually we don't look better as a team. We play terrible team defense.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 13, 2011, 02:13:41 PM
No actually we don't look better as a team. We play terrible team defense.
Played the first 15 minutes of good team defense.
Not sure which announcer said it, Elmore or Patrick, but it was pointed out that MU mostly plays 4 JC transfers, and that's a major reason for the inconsistent/poor defense. Especially when it comes to help defense. These guys just haven't played together much. Is that a legit point?
It ain't rocket surgery, for Pete's sakes, it's basketball. How much "practicing together" - ness does this team need?
On the post game, Buzz said DJO said "count it" after the three which resulted in the T.
I heard it too ... I'll bet that is said a 1,000 times a year in D1 basketball.
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 13, 2011, 02:35:30 PM
I heard it too ... I'll bet that is said a 1,000 times a year in D1 basketball.
He should have said "and 1." That is the preferred phrase of the NCAA.
Seems BS to say it was on something he said, as soon as he did the goggle ref T'd him up.
Quote from: WarriorHal on February 13, 2011, 02:21:22 PM
Not sure which announcer said it, Elmore or Patrick, but it was pointed out that MU mostly plays 4 JC transfers, and that's a major reason for the inconsistent/poor defense. Especially when it comes to help defense. These guys just haven't played together much. Is that a legit point?
Yes, it's a legit point
5 point swing and the Hoyas were back in it. We were close to opening up nice big lead and Pow!
Quote from: 79Warrior on February 13, 2011, 05:44:04 PM
5 point swing and the Hoyas were back in it. We were close to opening up nice big lead and Pow!
Not sure a nice lead would have mattered (See Louisville game). But that was a pretty poor call. By the logic of that call, A T could have probably been called on every play in the game.
Still don't think it should've been a technical but according to Butler said that DJO said count it followed by a swear. I think it was the addition of the swear that lead to the T.
http://twitter.com/#!/Todd_Rosiak/status/36919685228265472 (http://twitter.com/#!/Todd_Rosiak/status/36919685228265472)
Quote from: hoyasincebirth on February 13, 2011, 08:30:39 PM
Still don't think it should've been a technical but according to Butler said that DJO said count it followed by a swear. I think it was the addition of the swear that lead to the T.
http://twitter.com/#!/Todd_Rosiak/status/36919685228265472 (http://twitter.com/#!/Todd_Rosiak/status/36919685228265472)
Well, if that's the case then it is well-deserved and we should be blaming no one but DJO.
Quote from: jfmu on February 13, 2011, 02:00:33 PM
who is the ref who has called the T, the double foul on gardner and the other assortment of bull calls
he is awful today
That guy might have been terrible, but at least he was emphatic about his terrible calls! Refs are like offensive linemen: if you don't really notice them, they're probably doing a good job.
NOTE: I don't necessarily think he favored G'town. I think he was just plain bad.
You were on the court when DJO got his technical. What did you hear or see: "DJ, he said, 'Count it.' But he said a word after count it, and so the ref heard it and he T'd him up. He wasn't saying it to the ref or to Freeman; he was just saying it to himself because he knew it was good. But that's just part of the game. DJ, he's not that type of player. He makes shots, and he got real excited."
Were you surprised the official hit him with the T: "I was. But they said before the game at the captain's circle, no language like that. But I didn't think they were going to take it like that. That was just DJ being the excitable player that it is, and that gets him going. The ref took it the wrong way, but that definitely wasn't the reason we lost the game."
No, but it's got to be a lesson learned, especially on the road when you have so little margin for error to begin with: "Definitely. But I'll take that from DJ every time, just because he does stuff like that, that gets DJ going."
The ref that T'd him up gave out 43 technicals last season... in 87 games.
Also, has reffed 4 BE games this year, and has given out 3 technicals.
Handed out 4 technicals against Kansas in one game against Texas this year.
Yeah, fair to say he loves making it about himself.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on February 13, 2011, 09:56:04 PM
No, but it's got to be a lesson learned, especially on the road when you have so little margin for error to begin with: "Definitely. But I'll take that from DJ every time, just because he does stuff like that, that gets DJ going."
Is Buzz saying here that, despite the fact that they were warned about using foul language, that he doesn't mind that he uses it and picks up technical because it "gets him going?"
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 14, 2011, 06:28:51 AM
Is Buzz saying here that, despite the fact that they were warned about using foul language, that he doesn't mind that he uses it and picks up technical because it "gets him going?"
That was a Bulter quote
OK...good...thanks.
I have never in my entire life seen a player get T'd up for saying a "naughty word" to no one in particular. You see coaches and players mouth things all the time. Horrible call.
If that ref consistently calls games like that and gives out a lot of T's, then the staff should let the team know that as part of the prep. We did that all the time when I played and coached...tell your teams what certain refs or umps look for (high strike zone, etc)
But if you watch the replay, DJO yells something, but he isn't T'd up until he puts on the three point goggle.
I would love a still of him flashing the goggle, as you can see the ref in the background T him up while he is doing it.
Quote from: Jamailman on February 14, 2011, 07:31:24 AM
I have never in my entire life seen a player get T'd up for saying a "naughty word" to no one in particular. You see coaches and players mouth things all the time. Horrible call.
They were warned. Stop making excuses.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 14, 2011, 10:28:17 AM
They were warned. Stop making excuses.
Predictable responses from SSW. He has never claimed a sub-par job by the refs in 5+ years.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 14, 2011, 10:28:17 AM
They were warned. Stop making excuses.
Do you think he was the only player to use profanity from tip-off to zeroes?
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 14, 2011, 10:28:17 AM
They were warned. Stop making excuses.
Do referees ever make mistakes in your eyes?
Jeez. A weak technical is a weak technical. Didn't cost them the game, but come on.
Quote from: Jamailman on February 14, 2011, 07:31:24 AM
I have never in my entire life seen a player get T'd up for saying a "naughty word" to no one in particular. You see coaches and players mouth things all the time. Horrible call.
After a 3 point shot, a player says, "Count it, ______". Given that Buzz wouldn't repeat the word, I'm doubt the missing word was "please".
Thinking about the context, coupled with the words Buzz would likely be uncomfortable about using in public, my guess is that the word started with "B" and ends with "itch."
If thats the case, its not unreasonable for ref to think the comment was directed at him, and most definitely worthy of a T.
Stop making excuses...........for the ref. That was as big of a BS call I have seen in a long time and yes it stopped our momentum. That 9 point lead could have easily been pushed to double digits. Instead in a blink of an eye it goes back down to 4. Don't know if we still would have lost or not but it did make a difference.
Going forward, hopefully DJO learns a lesson and we don't put the refs in a position to call another stupid, idiotic BS call again.
Quote from: RawdogDX on February 14, 2011, 10:38:31 AM
Predictable responses from SSW. He has never claimed a sub-par job by the refs in 5+ years.
No, I have said repeatedly that refs who do poor jobs usually do not benefit one team over the other, and that making excuses for poor refereeing masks oftentimes the real problems. For instance, I thought the referees let the game get way too physical. It didn't benefit either team in particular so I don't think it had a bearing on the game.
But in this case, I cannot believe that people do not understand the issue. They have a ref with a reputation with a quick technical...they were warned not to use profanity...yet it is the refs fault after DJO screams a profanity after a basket?
Please...DJO can control his emotions. He failed to do so.