Watching this guy dominate Illinois, throwing down dunks and grabbing rebound after rebound (16 now), just how good would MU be if he was their starting center?
Top 20 team?
Top 10 team?
The only team that could beat us is a team with Chuck Norris at PG and Ditka coaching & playing the 2-5.
Nope. You're a fuckin moron for suggesting this. Fact of the matter is mbawke was a giant unnatural carnal knowledge up at Marquette and needed to go.
I mean, don't get me wrong. He got his crap together -kinda- and has become a good player at UofM but I can't imagine that he'd be able to do this if he was still here. Way to Many intangibles to consider. For all anyone knows, it was his change of scenery that did him good
If he couldn't get his head straight here, why would you think it would have eventually happened?
A change of scenery was what Trevor definitely needed...and he seems to benefit from it.
Good for him.
Can't we ban any more posts on Mbakwe or JMay? :P
17 points, 16 rebounds tonight.
Top ten in double-doubles in the country.
Top 15 in rebounding in the country.
He continues at this pace through next year and he is a possible first round draft choice.
I would say MU would have a significant better record at the present time and been a very dangerous team.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda though. Time to move it on.
I hate all the denial from people about him. Just admit it, with him we would dominate. That said boy I feel bad he has to play with that loveable band of losers. They are nothing without Nolan.
I wish there was a healing potion and in season college bball trades. Nolan and Mbakwe joining our big 3 would create a force. Such a shame.
As long as we are asking about criminals ...
How good would MU be if we had Montrele Clark?
Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 10, 2011, 10:28:01 PM
As long as we are asking about criminals ...
How good would MU be if we had Montrele Clark?
Has either been convicted of a crime?
I don't know if Clark was ever charged. On Mbakwe, thought I read he entered a program in exchange for a clean record.
He's gone. Let it go.
We would be significantly better and atop the big east.
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on February 10, 2011, 10:51:18 PM
Has either been convicted of a crime?
I don't know if Clark was ever charged. On Mbakwe, thought I read he entered a program in exchange for a clean record.
I think Clark was charged but nothing ever came of it... very sketchy story though.
Quote from: Ari Gold on February 10, 2011, 10:04:23 PM
Nope. You're a frackin moron for suggesting this. Fact of the matter is mbawke was a giant frack up at Marquette and needed to go.
I mean, don't get me wrong. He got his crap together -kinda- and has become a good player at UofM but I can't imagine that he'd be able to do this if he was still here. Way to Many intangibles to consider. For all anyone knows, it was his change of scenery that did him good
It is a hypothetical question, relax. You seem to have a lot of anger about this. You are in denial if you think he would not make this team significantly better.
I don't know about record and places in the standings, but anything that limits Otule's and Gardner's time is a plus.
Would I love Mbakwe to be on our team (minust the baggage)? YES
Is it worth the baggage that he brings? NO
The biggest thing he could bring to our team is REBOUNDING!
yeah that's what we need, a rapist sitting next to our daughters in classes at MU.
If Mbakwe were still around here, we probably don't have a need to recruit Crowder. You cannot make this decision in a vacuum.
And for the dude who said something about limiting Otule's time, Chris has been a significant contributor this year. Even if we had Crowder and Mbakwe, they would not likely be stealing time from Otule.
Clark is still available for next year!!! 18th ranked JUCO I believe!
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2011, 07:43:12 AM
If Mbakwe were still around here, we probably don't have a need to recruit Crowder. You cannot make this decision in a vacuum.
Not necessarily. Crowder was, more or less, brought in to help fill Lazar's role. With Mbakwe on the roster, Zar likely would have been able to spend more time on the wing, or at the very least, less time at the 5. Crowder could be doing the same this season.
MU would have won the NCAA in 72 had Jim Chones not left for the ABA before season's end. I'm convinced of that yet it only led to extra frown lines on my otherwise youthful face.
Let's get stuff like this out of our system, it's wasted energy.
Quote from: DoggyDaddy on February 11, 2011, 09:08:28 AM
MU would have won the NCAA in 72 had Jim Chones not left for the ABA before season's end. I'm convinced of that yet it only led to extra frown lines on my otherwise youthful face.
Let's get stuff like this out of our system, it's wasted energy.
Here is a link to the sports illustrated article from Feb. 1972 when Chones left Marquette 21-0, second ranked in the country for the ABA nets and $1.5 million
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1085830/1/index.htm
Quote from: mikem91288 on February 11, 2011, 08:45:01 AM
Clark is still available for next year!!! 18th ranked JUCO I believe!
F that. No way he belongs at MU.
Ah this brings me back to my first post on this site... http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=11812.msg105082#msg105082
How good we be if Crean hadn't finished second for JaJuan Johnson? How much better would we be with Deshonte Riley, Sutton from Villanova, Tyshaun Taylor? He made his choice. It eventually, after several missteps, seems to have worked out for him.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2011, 07:43:12 AM
If Mbakwe were still around here, we probably don't have a need to recruit Crowder. You cannot make this decision in a vacuum.
And for the dude who said something about limiting Otule's time, Chris has been a significant contributor this year. Even if we had Crowder and Mbakwe, they would not likely be stealing time from Otule.
There you go Aughnanure and others who think Mbawke would help.
Statistics aside, if he's here, we don't have someone else.
I don't want a quitter on our team.
He used MU to get free rehab and then quit the day before the season started. Screw him.
Maybe we have to admit we couldn't supply him for the top level education he is receiving at U of M.
How is our Recreation, Park & Lesiure Studies Department?
He never would of been able to make it under Buzz....his make up at the time was not strong enough to handle what buzz demands..maybe he has become stronger mentally or perhaps he has a found the right coach for him...bottom line he was never staying and if he did he would be not performing at the level he is doing now. I am glad it has worked out for him.
Not lets hope he stays off facebook ;D
Quote from: BigDaddy84 on February 11, 2011, 11:41:14 AM
He never would of been able to make it under Buzz....his make up at the time was not strong enough to handle what buzz demands..maybe he has become stronger mentally or perhaps he has a found the right coach for him...bottom line he was never staying and if he did he would be not performing at the level he is doing now. I am glad it has worked out for him.
"How old would Aunt Baby be if she was alive today?"
"She'd never make it."
Quote from: KC2016 on February 10, 2011, 10:12:22 PM
Can't we ban any more posts on Mbakwe or JMay? :P
+1 Again, regarding non-Marquette players...WHOOOOOOOOO CARES?!?!?!!!
Quote from: lab_warrior on February 11, 2011, 01:53:25 PM
+1 Again, regarding non-Marquette players...WHOOOOOOOOO CARES?!?!?!!!
Easy solution. Don't read the thread. The subject is straight-forward enough. It's pretty easy to not click on it.
Throw in Damian Saunders, Butler and Mbakwe.
Final Four
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 11, 2011, 01:36:42 PM
"How old would Aunt Baby be if she was alive today?"
"She'd never make it."
+1
Frank Costanza is one of the best minor television characters ever. If he were on the team, we'd have already won 40 games this year.
And if anyone wants to see Newbill, Southern Miss playing Memphis on ESPN2 at 6:00pm ET.
How good would we be with Iman Shumpert and Tyshawn Taylor?
newbill has had a couple nice finishes around the basket already tonight, which is what our young guards seem to struggle with. hindsight is 20:20 but it would have been great to know reggie smith wanted out in june (or whenever it was) and to have given smith's spot to wilson, thereby keeping newbill.
than again, with Buzz's recent spring signings, im sure that Buzz will turn smith's vacated spot into a top notch juco or transfer. same as the "mbakwe stays, so we dont get crowder" argument.
Let's see if we feel the same way when Wilson is on the floor (as we essentially traded Newbill for Wilson).
And yes, it would have been better to give Smith's spot to Wilson. But I don't recall a lot of people saying this last spring?