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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ChicosBailBonds on January 15, 2011, 01:14:04 PM

Title: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 15, 2011, 01:14:04 PM
I love the kid but today was definitely a performance to forget. 
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: CTWarrior on January 15, 2011, 01:17:33 PM
Kid plays great D but right now does more harm than good when we have the ball.

I wonder about Buzz's short bench.  Not so much for Blue, but the other guys get so little PT that when they do get in the game they seem lost.  Gardner and Williams, particularly, did big damage to MU in their minute or two of action.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: NickelDimer on January 15, 2011, 01:19:25 PM
He looked lost today.  Completely unsure of what he was doing.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: willie warrior on January 15, 2011, 01:33:04 PM
What's to discuss--aside from his fouls, he was a non factor.

It is much more fun beating up on the Bu's; Buzz and Buycks.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: chapman on January 15, 2011, 04:16:33 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on January 15, 2011, 01:33:04 PM
What's to discuss--aside from his fouls, he was a non factor.

It is much more fun beating up on the Bu's; Buzz and Buycks.

Then I'll take a swing at one of them.  Blue starts out this way quite a bit.  Inexcusable to only have him playing 5 minutes.  Especially when we needed someone who could play good defense when everyone else was choking.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on January 15, 2011, 04:24:27 PM
There will be better days for Vander.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: warriors1965 on January 15, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: mupanther on January 15, 2011, 04:24:27 PM
There will be better days for Vander.

Maybe, but his offensive game is pretty lousy for a blue-chip recruit.  It's four on five when he's in the game now.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 15, 2011, 04:56:35 PM
Cadougan, Otule, Gardner, EWill, and Jones leave a lot to be desired on offense as well.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: brewcity77 on January 15, 2011, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: warriors1965 on January 15, 2011, 04:51:16 PMMaybe, but his offensive game is pretty lousy for a blue-chip recruit.  It's four on five when he's in the game now.

I think that's a bit extreme. He is a decent passer most of the time, and drives to the hoop pretty well. He needs to work on his jumpshot, and his finishing at the rim is maybe 66% of what it should be, but I really think one off-season can correct most of that.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: 79Warrior on January 15, 2011, 05:22:22 PM
Quote from: warriors1965 on January 15, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
Maybe, but his offensive game is pretty lousy for a blue-chip recruit.  It's four on five when he's in the game now.

his offensive game is nonexistent.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: GGGG on January 15, 2011, 05:29:16 PM
Quote from: chapman on January 15, 2011, 04:16:33 PM
Then I'll take a swing at one of them.  Blue starts out this way quite a bit.  Inexcusable to only have him playing 5 minutes.  Especially when we needed someone who could play good defense when everyone else was choking.


The reason Vander didn't play was because he wanted two ball handers in there and Junior had a pretty decent game...until the last couple of minutes.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on January 16, 2011, 07:00:48 AM
Vander can handle the ball. Only 5 minutes for Vander. It's seems like Buzz plays the same 5 guys in the final 10 minutes of a game.
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: Golden Avalanche on January 16, 2011, 09:19:44 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 15, 2011, 04:56:35 PM
Cadougan, Otule, Gardner, EWill, and Jones leave a lot to be desired on offense as well.

One of them has shown moves on offense.

Two of them never play.

The other two have played a total of 30 games between them in three years of eligibility.

They should suck. Wait, am I not allowed to engage in excuse making?
Title: Re: Not much discussion on Vander today
Post by: lab_warrior on January 16, 2011, 09:24:02 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 15, 2011, 04:56:35 PM
Cadougan, Otule, Gardner, EWill, and Jones leave a lot to be desired on offense as well.

Yeah, it's almost like they're freshmen and sophomores who haven't played that much yet or developed to theri full potential yet.  Not everybody is John Wall or Carmelo Anthony.
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