Great Player...But Glad He's Gone
Mbawke was in jail for sending a message on fb to an ex who had a "No Harassment" order against him. Minnesota said they will not dicipline him and I thought that was BS. Then I read the message...
"I know we haven't talked in forever and trust me I'm not trying to start any drama with nobody in your life or anything. I just wanted to wish u the best with everything and I hope all has been well with you and your family. I am still disappointed how everything played out and I do wish that in the future we could be cool again. Idk how u r going to take this msg hopefully its not bad but I just wanted to wish u a happy new year and send out a congrats for graduating. I've been well I'm finally playin bball again in everything down in miami finally got taken care of thank god. Well idk if u will respond or not but best wishes for 2011.''
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/01/11/minnesota.trevor.mbakwe.ap/index.html#ixzz1Aq1kNkHN
Stupid move on his part but Minnesota shouldn't punish him.
What part of "No Contact" did he not understand? Sometimes absolutes are a hard concept to grasp.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 12, 2011, 10:37:03 AM
Stupid move on his part but Minnesota shouldn't punish him.
+1. Hope he's getting his life together.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 12, 2011, 10:37:03 AM
Stupid move on his part but Minnesota shouldn't punish him.
IMO, they should sit him down for a game (do they play Iowa soon?).
I do have some sympathy for the guy, but his message reads like he knows that what he's doing is wrong and that he shouldn't be contacting her...but he does it anyway. That's a problem.
I hope he gets his life straightened out and I hope this girl he contacted can also put whatever their issues were behind her as well.
Seems harmless, just wishing well. However he should know not to mess with the situation, considering everything that has already happened to him.
Did we really need another thread about this?
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=23465.msg260461#msg260461
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 12, 2011, 10:48:27 AM
I do have some sympathy for the guy, but his message reads like he knows that what he's doing is wrong and that he shouldn't be contacting her...but he does it anyway. That's a problem.
Bingo. Stupidity is not a defense, but I am never quite sure about appropriate punishment when some one is clearly just criminally dumb.
Fucking stupid on his part. ya just don't talk to ex girlfriends regardless of a judicially ordered no contact rule, there is an obvious unwritten no contact rule. nothing good comes from trying to talk to an ex ever. thats the lesson to be learned here
Quote from: ccirella22 on January 12, 2011, 10:31:52 AM
Idk how u r going to take this msg hopefully its not bad
It was. Now suffer the consequences. Minnesota should most definitely punish him, nothing extreme, but like MerritsMoustache said a game or maybe two. He obviously was too dense to understand what the restraining order required (NO CONTACT) and he clearly violated that. This brings legal repercussions and it should bring repercussions from the team/University. They have to teach him to follow the rules.
Clear violation. He sounds like a gay in that message though. If you want to go balls deep in a girl, I'm sure he can find something on campus in 20 minutes or less.
Quote from: jaybilaswho? on January 12, 2011, 10:59:41 AM
It was. Now suffer the consequences. Minnesota should most definitely punish him, nothing extreme, but like MerritsMoustache said a game or maybe two. He obviously was too dense to understand what the restraining order required (NO CONTACT) and he clearly violated that. This brings legal repercussions and it should bring repercussions from the team/University. They have to teach him to follow the rules.
This. I think Mbakwe's situation is representative more of personal defiance (the rules don't apply to me) than it is of ignorance (I don't know the rules). He should be punished. There shouldn't be selective application of the law. He broke it, plain and simple.
Don't use facebook to much, but it was my understanding you had to be friends with someone to post on their wall?
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 12, 2011, 11:23:26 AM
Don't use facebook to much, but it was my understanding you had to be friends with someone to post on their wall?
I believe he sent that message, which you could do without being a friend.
Quote from: marqptm on January 12, 2011, 11:00:26 AM
Clear violation. He sounds like a gay in that message though. If you want to go balls deep in a girl, I'm sure he can find something on campus in 20 minutes or less.
A gay? Sending well-wishes is gay? Not saying what he did was right (it was illegal) but how is the content of the message gay? And when did Muscoop become a haven for homophobes?
Edit I know I'm going to get flack for saying that, and not trying to get into a political discussion, but I just don't understand why we always have to talk like that. We can't say racist things here, right?
He should not have contacted her, doesn't matter circumstance.
Suspend for one game and move on is my guess
Quote from: Victor McCormick on January 12, 2011, 11:55:38 AM
A gay? Sending well-wishes is gay? Not saying what he did was right (it was illegal) but how is the content of the message gay? And when did Muscoop become a haven for homophobes?
Edit I know I'm going to get flack for saying that, and not trying to get into a political discussion, but I just don't understand why we always have to talk like that. We can't say racist things here, right?
'having or showing a merry, lively mood'
I'll go with that if you really want to be offended.
Quote from: marqptm on January 12, 2011, 12:15:09 PM
'having or showing a merry, lively mood'
I'll go with that if you really want to be offended.
haha touche
Quote from: Victor McCormick on January 12, 2011, 12:25:18 PM
haha touche
I should preface that by saying I normally avoid using the word in the way.
Quote from: Victor McCormick on January 12, 2011, 11:55:38 AM
Edit I know I'm going to get flack for saying that, and not trying to get into a political discussion, but I just don't understand why we always have to talk like that. We can't say racist things here, right?
Only traditional things.
:P
Quote from: Victor McCormick on January 12, 2011, 11:55:38 AM
A gay? Sending well-wishes is gay? Not saying what he did was right (it was illegal) but how is the content of the message gay? And when did Muscoop become a haven for homophobes?
Edit I know I'm going to get flack for saying that, and not trying to get into a political discussion, but I just don't understand why we always have to talk like that. We can't say racist things here, right?
Even gayer........
Great Player? Please let's not throw that term around.
Quote from: marqptm on January 12, 2011, 11:00:26 AM
Clear violation. He sounds like a gay in that message though. If you want to go balls deep in a girl, I'm sure he can find something on campus in 20 minutes or less.
Marq, is there something wrong with trying to make amends? Yeah Trevor violated the terms, but there's something to be said for showing kindness. You're taking a misguided effort at smoothing things over and degrading it. Ever heard of the 12-step AA program? I think one of them includes apologizing to those you've wronged in the past. I'm sure he can "find someone" too, but that's not at play here, and if you think it's gay to right your wrongs then I feel sorry for you.
Quote from: rugbydrummer on January 12, 2011, 10:02:39 PM
Marq, is there something wrong with trying to make amends?
Yes, there is when you have been given a no contact order.
We don't know the background/circumstances of this relationship that would lead to a court order. I'm not assuming is guilty of anything but being accused of sexual assault and having a no contact order filed against you is not exactly indicative of stability. Raise your hand if you have had both of those things happen to you in your lifetime, let alone in the last 3-4 years.
Bottom line; there is a disturbing pattern of behavior with this kid that changes the "harmlessness" of his facebook post.
Clearly, what we've witnessed is the modern version of drunk dialing. Unfortunately, on Facebook it's there for all (including the judge who issued the restraining order) to see.
Why is Mbakwe even using Facebook to send her this message? His powers do include mental telepathy.
Quote from: MUSF on January 12, 2011, 10:23:20 PM
Yes, there is when you have been given a no contact order.
No kidding. Was that even a serious question? Nobody knows what his motivation was, or the circumstances, but the fact that she felt it appropriate to call the cops, says something to me.
Any word on what Minn is doing for reprimanding him? Is he supposed to play tonight against Purdue?
Quote from: g0lden3agle on January 13, 2011, 01:50:48 PM
Any word on what Minn is doing for reprimanding him? Is he supposed to play tonight against Purdue?
Last I heard, he would be playing but wouldn't be starting.
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on January 13, 2011, 01:03:49 PM
No kidding. Was that even a serious question? Nobody knows what his motivation was, or the circumstances, but the fact that she felt it appropriate to call the cops, says something to me.
Ouch -- you misinterpreted my post. It was less about violating the no contact and more about the content of his message, and how I felt it was a disservice to call it "gay". Illegal, yes, in this circumstance. Durrrr, I'm not condoning Mbakwe's lapse in judgment.
Hey rugby can we be facebook friends? wuz good
Granted a 6th year of eligibility. And a pretty humorous article about it.
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2012/03/trevor_mbakwe_granted_6th_year_of_college_eligibility_bolstering_gophers_hoops_hopes.php
Sorry if this got posted somewhere else ...
I just read that Mbakwe got a sixth year granted by the NCAA.
To be honest, I'm surprised he got it (but I'm not totally familiar with what happened to him after leaving MU).
But to circle it around to the current team, this makes me feel all the more confident in CO's case, should he/MU decide to pursue a sixth year.
If he can, Chris can. IF he wants it.
If Otule still wants a sixth year and if Marquette still wants him, he will get it. Many, many, many precedents, with Mbakwe just the latest.
Looks like Minnesota is maxed out on scholly's next year and IF Trevor comes back they will have to "adjust" the roster.
Content of the message is fine. The fact that there was a message, not so fine. This harrasment stuff is serious, and no contact means no contact. It really is that simple.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7820845/minnesota-gophers-trevor-mbakwe-announces-returning
Seems like he's been in school forever. I guess he got his bachelor's so he'll be working on a master's
Quote from: warthog-driver on April 18, 2012, 02:06:14 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7820845/minnesota-gophers-trevor-mbakwe-announces-returning
Seems like he's been in school forever. I guess he got his bachelor's so he'll be working on a master's
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=23538.msg377017#msg377017
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2012/03/trevor_mbakwe_granted_6th_year_of_college_eligibility_bolstering_gophers_hoops_hopes.php
Since the Gophers do not have an available scholarship, they have requested a waiver to allow Trevor to play. If not granted by the NCAA, someone is going to have to give up a scholie. This will be important for Otule, because if Minnesota is given a waiver, then that opens the door for Otule to return for a 6th year without taking up a scholarship.
Quote from: 6746jonesr on April 18, 2012, 08:23:53 PM
Since the Gophers do not have an available scholarship, they have requested a waiver to allow Trevor to play. If not granted by the NCAA, someone is going to have to give up a scholie. This will be important for Otule, because if Minnesota is given a waiver, then that opens the door for Otule to return for a 6th year without taking up a scholarship.
This is from April 8th.
Chip Armelin, the Gophers sophomore guard from Sulphur, La., has indicated to basketball coach Tubby Smith that he would like to transfer closer to home. Armelin saw little action toward the end of the season and likely will get his release, leaving a scholarship open for Trevor Mbakwe if he decides to play a sixth year.
April 17th
Mbakwe and coach Tubby Smith hinted that this was a likely outcome in recent weeks, and Chip Armelin's decision last week to transfer opened up a scholarship, but the finality is notable.