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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: chren21 on December 27, 2010, 08:57:15 PM

Title: Other Big East games thread
Post by: chren21 on December 27, 2010, 08:57:15 PM
Figured I would start a new thread that we could pull up at later dates to discuss other big east games / matchups not involving MU.

This Pitt vs. Uconn game is just OK so far....  But I have a feeling K Walker is going to heat up here down the stretch..

Boxscore:

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=303610221

Pitt is really well balanced.  Uconn depends too much on K Walker.  The way Uconn is playing right now reminds me a little bit of MU when DJO is off.

edit:  Except DJO doesn't shoot EVERY time down the court.   KW took 27 shots.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: chren21 on December 28, 2010, 07:02:15 AM
Tonights BEast action:

  Providence   
(11-2, 0-1 away)
vs.
5  Syracuse   
(13-0, 10-0 home)
ESPNU  9:00 PM ET

   South Florida   
(6-7, 0-4 away)
vs.
  Seton Hall   
(6-6, 4-2 home)
ESPN3     7:00 PM ET 

  DePaul   
(6-6, 0-1 away)
vs.
  Cincinnati   
(12-0, 9-0 home)
ESPN3     7:00 PM ET 

  North Carolina   
(8-4, 1-1 away)
vs.
  Rutgers   
(9-2, 7-0 home)
ESPN2     9:00 PM ET  (at Madison Square Garden)

Lets go Rutgers.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: chren21 on December 29, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
ND leading Georgetown by 14 with 12 to go.  They are tuff.  5 seniors.  We have our hands full with them twice.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 29, 2010, 07:29:04 PM
And the Johnies making life difficult for Huggy Bear up 5 in Morgantown.

Click those seat belts in it is going to be a rough ride in the Big East this year!
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: MauraDay on December 29, 2010, 07:32:37 PM
Yup, ND is fundamentally sound, smart, and experienced. Underrated qualities.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: NersEllenson on December 29, 2010, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 29, 2010, 07:29:04 PM
And the Johnies making life difficult for Huggy Bear up 5 in Morgantown.

Click those seat belts in it is going to be a rough ride in the Big East this year!

Looks like St. Johns will beat WVU...as you mention..it is going to be a rough ride in the Big East this year...
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: 🏀 on December 29, 2010, 07:53:28 PM
Down a dozen with 1:22 left? Fouling? Come on, GTIII.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: reinko on December 29, 2010, 07:58:49 PM
Quote from: marqptm on December 29, 2010, 07:53:28 PM
Down a dozen with 1:22 left? Fouling? Come on, GTIII.

How about down 14 with 56 seconds to go.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: chren21 on December 31, 2010, 10:02:28 AM
  South Florida  (away)
(6-8, 0-1 Big East)
4 Connecticut   
(10-1, 0-1 Big East)
ESPNU  6:00 PM ET 

  Seton Hall   (away)
(7-6, 1-0 Big East)
  Cincinnati   
(13-0, 1-0 Big East)
ESPN2  8:00 PM ET 

  12 Kentucky   
(10-2, 1-1 away)
20 Louisville   
(11-1, 10-1 home)
CBS  12:00 PM ET 

Big East could use UL victory today.  Should be a good one...
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 31, 2010, 03:47:03 PM
Kentucky kicked UL's butt pretty good today.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: nyg on December 31, 2010, 03:52:01 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 31, 2010, 03:47:03 PM
Kentucky kicked UL's butt pretty good today.

That's what happens when you reload.  The quality of freshman play for a Top Ten recruit is obvious.  Kentucky's Brandon Knight and Terrence Jones are just tremendous. 
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 31, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 31, 2010, 03:47:03 PM
Kentucky kicked UL's butt pretty good today.

At the Yum Center no less.  U of L overrated to me with an easy OOC...and has a short bench.  Sounds like Jennings and Slick not bonding either.  And, they are all about the treys.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: dsfire on December 31, 2010, 04:23:09 PM
UL must've shot out of their minds at the end to finish 46% FG and 40% from 3.  I think they were shooting around 30% and 15% when I looked around halftime.
Title: South Florida took UCONN to OT today in Storrs
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on December 31, 2010, 09:59:40 PM
UCONN escapes a home loss to USF
Title: Re: South Florida took UCONN to OT today in Storrs
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 31, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 31, 2010, 09:59:40 PM
UCONN escapes a home loss to USF

The book is out:  Slow Walker, stop UCONN.
Title: Re: South Florida took UCONN to OT today in Storrs
Post by: brewcity77 on December 31, 2010, 10:26:05 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 31, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
The book is out:  Slow Walker, stop UCONN.

Yeah, but Walker still had 24 points and 8 boards. Not exactly what I'd call a "slow" night. And he had 31 in their loss to Pitt, albeit on 37% shooting from the field. He's scored 20 points in 11 straight games, 10 of them wins. For a collegiate player, I wouldn't call any of those slow games.

Granted, I fully realize you are pretty much the ultimate stat guru, and I confess I didn't see tonight's game, but Walker scored 36% of UConn's points. It doesn't seem like USF managed to slow him at all. If anything, it's the rest of the team that needs to pick it up. Only one other guy in double figures, and Walker led them in rebounds and assists as well.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: National Champs on December 31, 2010, 10:34:06 PM
Walker will get his points, but if you can make it difficult to do it with a small number of shots you have a real good chance at winning.
Title: Re: South Florida took UCONN to OT today in Storrs
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 31, 2010, 11:21:28 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 31, 2010, 10:26:05 PM
Yeah, but Walker still had 24 points and 8 boards. Not exactly what I'd call a "slow" night. And he had 31 in their loss to Pitt, albeit on 37% shooting from the field. He's scored 20 points in 11 straight games, 10 of them wins. For a collegiate player, I wouldn't call any of those slow games.


Sorry--by "slow" I mean to make him work has arse off on both ends to tire him out.  He takes 31% percent of UCONN's possessions as it is....so this manifests itself in ways like FG% in the upper 30's vs. Pitt and USF vs. the 50's vs. UK and MSU.

Versus Pitt, Walker had 43.2% of UCONN's possessions, which is unreal.  That means no one else is involved in their offense.  Oliver says that a superstar ideally should be around 28%....Jordan--when it was him versus the world but without playoff wins-- was in the mid to upper 30%.  It was closer to 28% during his championship runs.

As you say, "slow" is a relative word when talking about Walker...the dude is going to get his points.  But, if you work him over, his shot and hops get heavy, and his quickness inevitably slows...more so as the season goes on. Both Pitt and USF like the physical games.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: chren21 on January 04, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
Depaul hanging tuff at home vs WVU.  Down 34-31
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 04, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: chren21 on January 04, 2011, 08:53:16 PM
Depaul hanging tuff at home vs WVU.  Down 34-31

Yup, don't look now.

1:30 left and DePaul just tied it on a 3.

63-63...
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: chren21 on January 05, 2011, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 04, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
Yup, don't look now.

1:30 left and DePaul just tied it on a 3.

63-63...

Good showing by the Demons.  Like their 2 freshman, back to back BE fresman of the week (I think, to lazy to check).

Tonight...

Seton Hall @ Louisville on ESPNU @6pm CST.  I would bet on Rick tonight at home winning by more than the 11.5 line.  
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: chren21 on January 08, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
We have our hands full with ND on Monday.  I dont see us winning at ND down the road so to get one from them at home would be huge.  They are up 20 on St. J's...
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: jesmu84 on January 09, 2011, 01:35:59 PM
#7 Nova over #25 Cincinnati 71-62. didn't watch the game, but does this outcome make our loss to Pitt any better? or at least more palatable?  Nova up by 16 at half. Nova with 19 turnovers. anyone watch?
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: karavotsos on January 09, 2011, 08:04:39 PM
Unfortunately, did not get to watch this game.  From the articles on ESPN, sounds like classic Cincy under Cronin.
http://espn.go.com/blog/CollegeBasketballNation/post/_/id/20868/bearcats-learn-nothing-is-going-to-be-easy
(http://espn.go.com/blog/CollegeBasketballNation/post/_/id/20868/bearcats-learn-nothing-is-going-to-be-easy)

I like how the article posits that Cincy's learning to win in the big east.  2 techs, one on your coach and one on your senior center.  Seems like these are the guys who should have learned something by now.  You've gotta keep your composure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgRp-CZ1UDc
(//http://)
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: chren21 on January 17, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
Did anyone just watch that UConn vs. Villanova game?  Fantastic game.  Kemba nailed a runner with 2.5 left to win it. 
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: MUfan12 on January 17, 2011, 04:49:46 PM
Quote from: chren21 on January 17, 2011, 04:41:23 PM
Did anyone just watch that UConn vs. Villanova game?  Fantastic game.  Kemba nailed a runner with 2.5 left to win it. 

He and Fisher were something else down the stretch.

Three guys scored 52 of UConn's 61. Their length gave Nova some trouble when they turned up the pressure.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: willie warrior on January 17, 2011, 04:52:41 PM
Quote from: chren21 on December 29, 2010, 07:22:53 PM
ND leading Georgetown by 14 with 12 to go.  They are tuff.  5 seniors.  We have our hands full with them twice.
Think ND will blow that lead?
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 17, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
I don't think us MUScoopers are giving enough credit to UConn. They'll be tougher to beat than it seems a lot of people think from posts I've read even though it's s home game.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: MUfan12 on January 17, 2011, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on January 17, 2011, 04:52:41 PM
Think ND will blow that lead?

No, but bet the house they'll get worked by MU and St. John's.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: brewcity77 on January 17, 2011, 07:59:41 PM
I'm working, but is anyone watching this Pitt/'Cuse game?

Pitt opened the game on a 19-0 run. I figured Pitt blowout. Syracuse answered with a 17-0 run of their own. Now it's a 3-point game with about 12:00 to play. That has to be some kind of record in terms of shutout runs.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 17, 2011, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: KC2016 on January 17, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
I don't think us MUScoopers are giving enough credit to UConn. They'll be tougher to beat than it seems a lot of people think from posts I've read even though it's s home game.

We actually play UCONN both home and away.
Title: Re: Other Big East games thread
Post by: brewcity77 on January 17, 2011, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: KC2016 on January 17, 2011, 04:55:52 PMI don't think us MUScoopers are giving enough credit to UConn. They'll be tougher to beat than it seems a lot of people think from posts I've read even though it's s home game.

I'm hoping for a split with UConn, though I'm pretty sure the away game is in Hartford, which is where we beat them last year and not as tough an environment as playing at Storrs, which draws a much larger student crowd.

Simple truth is we still need at least two quality wins out of these games:

@ Notre Dame
UConn
Syracuse
@ Villanova
@ UConn
@ Georgetown

Sadly, Georgetown is starting to look like a fool's gold type of team and by the time we see them in mid-February may not be as valuable a win as I'm hoping for right now.

And I think we also may be taking ND lightly. I know Scott is out, but they are are essentially 14-0 in neutral and home court games (including beating UConn and spanking St. John's by 15) and 0-4 in road games (including playing Kentucky in Louisville and losing to St. John's by 18). They will likely be much tougher in South Bend than they were here.
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