Since the Big Ten has expanded next year to include Nebraska, why not include Marquette ? It would be the perfect conference for them. It would make for much more exciting games when their not playing a top team. If they played Illinois or Minnesota i'm sure they would have sellouts and the games would have more pride then if they played Seton Hall or St. John's.
Of course it would make their game with the Badgers that much more intense.
Of course beggars can't be choosers the Big East is much better than Conference USA.
I'm sure people have thought of this already but I don't know the answer.
Is it because their a private school and the Big Ten wants to keep it only with one private school in Northwestern or they don't have a football team ?
Football has nothing to do with it. I think your on to something.
They have no chance to be in the Big Ten. Not even worth discussing.
Never, never , never will happen.
Not sure a middle of the road school is a good fit for the Big Ten.
Quote from: chren21 on December 05, 2010, 08:55:33 AM
Football has nothing to do with it. I think your on to something.
good line.
We don't have the academic profile to fit the Big 10.
Look at the schools in the Big Ten.
We have less than half of the smallest school's student body if you take out Northwestern. And Northwestern is in there because it is one of the greatest academic schools in the nation.
The Big Ten is built around big state schools. Not medium-sized private religious schools. The Big East is a much better fit.
Quote from: SacWarrior on December 05, 2010, 11:45:31 AM
Look at the schools in the Big Ten.
We have less than half of the smallest school's student body if you take out Northwestern. And Northwestern is in there because it is one of the greatest academic schools in the nation.
Northwestern is in there because of history. If the B10 were forming now, they wouldn't take Northwestern. Chicago was also a member of the B10 when it started too.
Quote from: chren21 on December 05, 2010, 08:55:33 AM
Football has nothing to do with it. I think your on to something.
Then why can't marquette just start a football team? It'll just take $100m and we could play at Miller Park until we build an on campus stadium
Quote from: Ari Gold on December 05, 2010, 01:44:57 PM
Then why can't marquette just start a football team? It'll just take $100m and we could play at Miller Park until we build an on campus stadium
no - we need Miller Park to host the much desired annual Wisconsin State College Tourney between MU, UW-MAdison, UW-Milwaukee and UW- Green Bay...
Yeah years ago Marquette had a football team but they canceled it either due to the fact they were horrible or lack of funding.
Quote from: Marquette_Fan on December 05, 2010, 02:12:20 PM
Yeah years ago Marquette had a football team but they canceled it either due to the fact they were horrible or lack of funding.
MU made a lot of poor decisions years ago, unfortunately. Medical school drop, dropping football, Avenue Commons, letting Canadian Dimes in, etc.
At one point in time, MU had one of the best football programs in the country. For an entire decade they finished in the top 10 in victories and were ranked...beat teams like Michigan State, Wisconsin, Boston College, Navy, Iowa, etc
MU is mostly a liberal arts college with the intent to educate and train undergraduates. Sure we have Doctoral and Masters programs, but we aren't a big research institution like most of the Big Ten schools. We do rank higher academically than some Big Ten schools, but when it comes to money for research, grants, endowment, alumni size, etc....not going to happen.
11-68-2 against the Big Ten all time
As a side note
21-13-1 against the Big 12
6-6 against the Pac Ten
5-6 against the SEC
6-7-1 against the ACC
2-0 against the WAC
2-11-1 against the Big East
Record against Big Ten teams
4-32 vs Wisconsin (all 32 games in Madison)
6-18-1 vs Michigan State
1-1 vs Iowa
0-0-1 vs Illinois
0-2 vs Michigan
0-6 vs Indiana
0-2 vs Northwestern
0-2 vs Penn State
0-5 vs Purdue
Other schools of note
1-0 vs Auburn
3-2 vs Mississippi (Ole Miss)
8-2-1 vs Iowa State
1-2 vs Oklahoma State
7-6 vs Kansas State
6-6-1 vs Boston College
6-4 vs Arizona
0-3-3 vs Notre Dame
1-1 vs Navy
0-1 vs Army
0-4 vs TCU (including loss in first Cotton Bowl)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 05, 2010, 02:32:07 PM
Record against Big Ten teams
4-32 vs Wisconsin (all 32 games in Madison)
6-18-1 vs Michigan State
I bet many of these games were when MSU was independent before they joined the B10 (as Chicago's replacement) in 1953.
BTW, from today's Big 10/11/12 winter meetings today:
http://www.bigten.org/genrel/120510aaa.html (http://www.bigten.org/genrel/120510aaa.html)
"Although the conference will continue to monitor the intercollegiate landscape, it will not be actively engaged in conference expansion for the foreseeable future and does not expect to be proactively seeking new members."
Quote from: Marquette_Fan on December 05, 2010, 02:12:20 PM
Yeah years ago Marquette had a football team but they canceled it either due to the fact they were horrible or lack of funding.
Really? Tell is more. I never knew of this
Quote from: Ari Gold on December 05, 2010, 03:04:51 PM
Really? Tell is more. I never knew of this
Marquette University's football team was known as the "Golden Avalanche" prior to the program being terminated in 1960. Marquette football posted several successful seasons in the 1920s and 1930s including undefeated seasons in 1922, 1923, and 1930. From 1922 to 1923 Marquette held a 17–0–1 record and outscored its opponents 374–15. The 1930 Marquette squad had seven games in which it held the opposition scoreless and held a 155–7 scoring margin. From 1920 to 1936 Marquette held a 90–32–6 record. In 1937 the 20th ranked Marquette Golden Avalanche had a 7–1 regular season record and appeared in the first Cotton Bowl Classic against Texas Christian University, losing 16–6. NCAA football was last played by Marquette in 1960, after accumulating several years of budget deficits for the university. Their last successful season was 1953. Since then, they had accumulated a 10–44–3 record, including two straight seasons (1956 to 1957) without a win or even a tie. Marquette Stadium, the football team's home since 1924, was dismantled in 1978. The sport has since been brought back at the club level.
Source: Wikipeda
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 05, 2010, 02:24:47 PM
MU made a lot of poor decisions years ago, unfortunately. Medical school drop, dropping football, Avenue Commons, letting Canadian Dimes in, etc.
That zinger made my day, thanks!
Quote from: Marquette_Fan on December 05, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Marquette University's football team was known as the "Golden Avalanche" prior to the program being terminated in 1960. Marquette football posted several successful seasons in the 1920s and 1930s including undefeated seasons in 1922, 1923, and 1930. From 1922 to 1923 Marquette held a 17–0–1 record and outscored its opponents 374–15. The 1930 Marquette squad had seven games in which it held the opposition scoreless and held a 155–7 scoring margin. From 1920 to 1936 Marquette held a 90–32–6 record. In 1937 the 20th ranked Marquette Golden Avalanche had a 7–1 regular season record and appeared in the first Cotton Bowl Classic against Texas Christian University, losing 16–6. NCAA football was last played by Marquette in 1960, after accumulating several years of budget deficits for the university. Their last successful season was 1953. Since then, they had accumulated a 10–44–3 record, including two straight seasons (1956 to 1957) without a win or even a tie. Marquette Stadium, the football team's home since 1924, was dismantled in 1978. The sport has since been brought back at the club level.
Source: Wikipeda
It must be hard living in a world without sarcasm
Quote from: SacWarrior on December 05, 2010, 03:30:08 PM
It must be hard living in a world without sarcasm
My bad..... didn't pick up the sarcasm.....sorry ;D
thought the teal was implied
Quote from: Marquette_Fan on December 05, 2010, 03:54:33 PM
My bad..... didn't pick up the sarcasm.....sorry ;D
You only have 17 posts so I'll let it slide, but just so you know, the discussion about Marquette regaining football is a weekly thing here.
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 05, 2010, 02:38:19 PM
I bet many of these games were when MSU was independent before they joined the B10 (as Chicago's replacement) in 1953.
Correct
Quote from: SacWarrior on December 05, 2010, 05:04:09 PM
You only have 17 posts so I'll let it slide, but just so you know, the discussion about Marquette regaining football is a weekly thing here.
Man you are dense... I believe the newbie just went one level deeper than you on the sarcasm.
Big Ten done expanding...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5888109&campaign=rss&source=NCBHeadlines
Definitely add a few more .........
No one is done. They parsed it by saying "actively" pursuing expansion, but if other conferences make it difficult for them, they will do what they need to do.
Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on December 05, 2010, 08:18:38 PM
Man you are dense... I believe the newbie just went one level deeper than you on the sarcasm.
LOL, classic :D
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 05, 2010, 11:24:37 PM
Definitely add a few more .........
No one is done. They parsed it by saying "actively" pursuing expansion, but if other conferences make it difficult for them, they will do what they need to do.
There is still the matter of the B12, which isn't stable right now. I know that A&M's invitation to the SEC is open ended for instance.